Blah, ignore that last post, of course it helps you decide your vote, I'm just positive its the wrong way to go and no matter what you glean from it its not woth losing another villager for the knowledge.

Alan.. can you please do what I asked you earlier? Think through theories that you might gain when I come up good. You keep assuming that I'm bad. But what happens when I turn up good? What will that mean to you?

It actually will mean just as much to me if you end up good as bad, just in a different direction if that makes sense. I'm on the fence on several people, but for whatever reason the people I do suspect the most right now all want to see you live. There could be several reasons for this of course though, some good, some bad.

Alan, if Telle gets lynched and comes up what I think she is you are getting my vote tomorrow.

there is no way you aren't picking up what is being laid down right now.

I have not lied about you as far as I know, I admit I haven't gone back through 30 pages of shyte and am running on memory, but You ARE a driving force on Telle, yet your theory doesn't hold any water.

You voted the EXACT same way she did, yet YOUR reasons for it are more valid than hers?

Craptastic.

Why should we believe YOUR reasoning over hers? Just because your's sound better?

I see where you're going with this, and I've thought it, too. But I have trouble believing it based on the last game.

Ok so tell us.. who do you think it makes more likely good or more likely bad when I come up good?

uh, yeah

Do you think your threats are going to scare me? I don't think that is your intention though, I think you probably have already figured out the same thing I am thinking anyways though. If I have to guess, your threats are to try to scare people away from voting her.

If you are so strong in believing Telle, then why not vote for Sal to see if that could save her instead? You haven't scanned Sal yet, so surely he would be a better target for you than her?

Ever consider the idea that you have the wrong suspects?

Ignorance is bliss, I guess. I never said anything about a "subsequent night kill" and I really don't know what you're talking there. And you mentioned me voting for self-preservation on a day when I had no votes on me. Talk about muddying the waters.

I'll entertain that scenerio once I actually believe you are good.

*smirx*

Sure, it's possible. I've been wrong before and I've been right before.. Guess we will figure it out this time which the case is.

Well, if my reasoning sounds better, why are you believing hers?

Well I know I'm good and it's obvious that there are others on here who understand and believe me. So why don't you think it through and enlighten us all so that we can have the benefit of you analysis today until waiting until tomorrow after you've led the charge on killing another villager?

Oh and RendeR, I don't think it was Pass who had the theory on Lathum not being killed makes him the fake seer and me a wolf. I don't recall who it was though.

YOu should be scared. Look what happened to DT and BK when they fucked with me.


And a vote for Pass is the same as a vote for Sal, plus it gives us a data point to work with.

Alan, you are wrong here. At least entertain that fact and TRY looking the other direction. Don't assume one way at the cost of seeing the whole picture.

im just cunfsed by alan. i mean EVERYTHNG screems wolf about him...... btu we know hes the duke? right? RIGHT?

Why does everyone keep saying I led the charge to kill any villager so far? :)

I've only really pushed for two people to be lynched this game thus far.. and as of present both are still alive.

Oh...ok, I apologize then, I was certain that was his theory. As I said I don;t have a week to slog through 30 pages of bullshit so I may be misinformed.

No I meant that two villagers have already been killed, and now you're leading the charge on killing a new villager. Sorry that wasn't more clear.

I'm taking notes by the way of people who are actually trying to push the idea that Saldana started of trying to discredit me as the duke.

What the heck?

Oh I don't think you're a wolf in Duke's clothing.. I just think you're seriously misguided.

Alan you're discreciting yourself at this point, as Clap said, your play is SCREAMING wolf right now. you're not looking helpful at all.

Hi Render, I'm an unanswered question! :)

:lol:

Alan, you're being stubborn because you feel you have a solid theory. Right now I know and Tele knows and it would appear that Lathum knows you're headed in the completely wrong direction, asll we're asking is that you reconsider your theories and see where THAT path leads you before we lose someone else.

Isn't that WORTH taking the time to flip flop what you 'think' and see where your theories go based on that?

Give it a shot.

I've already explained myself several times only to be met by threats and accusations. Do you really expect me to even bother with you now? I've written you off as either a wolf or a villager who refuses to listen to anything I say so it really is pointless.

People called me an idiot for no lynching a vote that ended up saving the bodyguard, People gave me grief for trying to keep the wolves away from the bodyguard in hopes they would think if we still doubted him they might leave him alone for us to lynch him. People are now giving me grief for me wanting to protect people that I feel I have a read on for other roles now.

Remember last game, as a wolf I did a pretty decent job of reading roles from people.. maybe this game I am sucking to make up for it.. or maybe I'm correct.. who knows. No one has given me a chance to test my theories as of yet, and I am likely going to be night killed at some point before I get too much more of a chance.. So I feel now is going to have to be the time I figure things out..

If I'm wrong then my apologies to Telle.. but I seriously need to settle in my mind which side she is on today.

Because it sounds contrived Pass. "HERE I AM TO SAVE THE DAY!" comes across just a little too conveniently. Her reasoning sounds pretty much identical to mine and is therefore far more believable.


I thought I had responded to this already, sorry, too many posts to go through and I think I may kill my chldren soon if they don't start behaving better ...

:mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant:

I said the same thing to Lathum earlier. Saldana is a viable candidate just sitting there if you really feel you must save Telle. He didn't want to save Telle bad enough to switch there though.. I'm guessing you won't either.

I'm usually a pretty outspoken player, but I don't think I've come on that hard on Telle. In fact, if she's going to reveal, I might believe it -- though the longer she waits, the less believable it is -- it'll make it seem like she's afraid someone else will reveal the same thing.

You know what? I'll go for it. RendeR and Lathum feel free to follow me.

So what does this do to your theories Alan?

UNVOTE PASSACAGLIA

VOTE SALDANA

I'm fine with Saldana being lynched today. I'm interested to see how this plays out.

I never said I had anything to reveal.

I wasn't trying to say you did. It was just an 'if'. Are you saying you DON'T have anything to reveal?

Good. Hopefully it'll give you another day to think things through.

I'm not saying anything about reveals at all.

Thanks for setting me straight. ;)

Anyway, I just re-read the rules, and have to think on this.

At least somebody's thinking :)

ok fine, then just please think about this:

Would the wolves out themselves SO badly trying to beat you over the head with the idea that we should NOT lynch Telle today? Does it make ay sense from a game play perspective to come out SO forcefully to try and turn your thinking away from what we believe to be the wrong choice?

The wolves would just let you go on your way, hell they'd HELP you Alan.

I won't. you're wrong here and I hope you see that soon.

I still haven't seen anyone try to save Telle by moving their vote to Saldana

RendeR, I think I see why you're acting the way you are -- but can you explain the actions of other people?

Which people?

I think he's just pushing hard because he's just about the only confirmed villager we have alive.

I guess the people who have votes on me,, that are acting like I've rained holy hell on you. I can see why RendeR might vouch for you, but -- and you can answer this, too, not just him -- what do you make of the other people jumping on me?

I don't know anything about saldana or LoneStarGirl. If you're a villager and they're wolves perhaps they see you as a good target since you've been outspoken and drawn attention? As far as Lathum.. it appears that he gets it and is trying to keep me from getting lynched.

To reiterate: RendeR, you're telling me that Telle is good, right? That despite my reasoning, which sounds good, I'm wrong. I can accept that. But don't you think that other people who seem just as confident as you are making it difficult for me to accept what you're telling me?