Those people were always going to vote Repube. Kamala and Walz aren't swaying them, they need to sway those that weren't engaged because Biden was too old, Trump too crazy and nothing in between. Undecideds, independents and the uninterested finally got an option to commit too that wasn't old or crazy.

Hey, JD Vance, what makes you smile? #AI pic.twitter.com/oxx1YZFfnf

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) August 8, 2024

Yes, but we're talking about Republicans giving Republicans (or independents who favor Republican policies) reasons to come out to vote for Trump. The name of the game, at the end of the day, is turnout. This is casting a wide net, not just for people who are definitively going to vote, but those who aren't or if they do, might pick RFK or another 3rd party looney as some sort of protest vote. My brother falls in the latter category, for instance.

JD Vance seems like Ron DeSantis if he had even less self-awareness about how awkward/cringy he came off to people who are not Trump's base.

Not necessarily, and I realize it may be new to "pundits," but this "Wizard of Oz" was a thing among a fair number of my associates back in Georgia dating back to 2016. I had one conversation with an old friend in 2016 that I distinctly remember in detail, because of how his thought process evolved over time. In 2016 "Melvin" called Trump a "reprobate" and said that in his view the Supreme Court was the most important thing, and that he didn't even trust Trump with that, but (pretty sure this is a direct quote) "I don't know who Trump would put on there, but I KNOW who Clinton's gonna put on there, so I'm voting for Trump."


For context, "Melvin" and the GREAT majority of my close friends down in Georgia are like me: biblically-conservative Christians who supported Rubio in 2016--before he bowed the knee. (I know it may be hard to remember, but in 2015 and early 2016 he was the clear leader in the "Compassionate Conservative" lane.) Most of them said they went third party in 2016. The ones that didn't pretty much lined up with Melvin: "can't stand Trump, but Supreme Court."


Fast forward to summer 2020. Because I was the most long-term/present black guy in our crew back in the day, everyone wanted to get together to hear my perspective on BLM, George Floyd, etc., so when I was down there for July 4th that year, we had a long gathering to talk and pray. Inevitably, the Trump Bible-raising incident came up, and "Melvin" jumped into the conservation with "That was the last straw for me, even though he's been great with the Supreme Court and judges. I'm writing in Mike Pence." As mentioned earlier, some of the had voted for Trump in 2016, but the ones that had all said they were done with him as well. (One did change his mind not based on politics. He probably cares about college football more than anything else, and Trump moving toward "opening up the country" more than the Dems caused him to vote for Trump because he didn't want the 2021 season to be "ruined" like 2020. Ironically, he by FAR the most vocal/aghast in our text chain within a day or two of the 2020 election when Trump started whining about election interference, saying how embarrassing an unbecoming it was and that he needed to just concede and move on. Point being, not exactly a hardcore Trumper...and holy COW, the things that people will vote based upon....) Anyway, "Melvin" confirmed to me and others that he wrote in Pence, can't stand Biden/Harris, but has zero regrets about helping them win Georgia by not voting Trump.



Bottom line: Trump acting like this doesn't necessarily switch reliable R votes to D votes, but I've seen how it can switch reliable R votes to write-ins/third parties.

Part of Ben's post made me wonder what, exactly, is "compassionate conservatism" these days?

Let's take Marco Rubio. There's nothing in his political positions that indicates compassion, except a religiosity that suggests compassion.

He's against the legalisation of marijuana and in favor of increased penalties for drug crimes, even minor drug crimes.

Although he has made some minor noises around gun control, his voting record is heavily pro-gun.

He is very pro-deregulation and praises companies that exploit workers while being anti-union.

He's a hardliner on closing the border and, among other things, wants to slow the entry of refugees into the United States.

He has called for Israel to use "disproportionate response" in the Gaza Strip. Also: "On CNN, Marco Rubio responded to a question from Jake Tapper about civilian casualties in Gaza by saying, “I don’t think there’s any way Israel can be expected to coexist or find some diplomatic off-ramp with these savages…. They have to be eradicated."

He voted against the Violence Against Women act, opposes abortion rights even in cases of rape or incest, and believes strongly that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

He votes consistently to overfund the Department of Defense and cut funding to the Department of Education (with a goal of eliminating it altogether).

Someone help me out here. What does "compassionate conservatism" mean? Did it ever mean anything?

Damage is already done. The focus of Evangelicals was taking away the rights of everyone but Christians.

I'm sure he sleeps fine at night knowing the Supreme Court is ready to annoint Trump as a supreme dictator free of any restraint, the subjugation of women, removing any protections to the environment, destroying public schools, allowing corruption, etc...

But I'm sure a bible in every school will fix everything.

Compassionate because they strive to force everyone to live by the same rules as their "biblically-conservative" worldview...hence saving them?

Yeah, that's a bit flippant, but I'm really not sure these days either. If Ben's definition of "biblically-conservative" is akin to what I imagine my FIL's to be, it's a lot more of "these are things that God says you can't do" than actually, well, showing anyone compassion or doing anything to help them. This is not to say that churches don't help (food drives/kitchens, shelters, etc.) but I'm going to venture that the percentage of folks who actively participate/support such ventures is a minority.

I'm an Atheist so I probably don't have the best perspective on this, but I feel the problem with Christian Comservatism right now and trying to define it is it's been infiltrated by MAGA beliefs that find the teachings of Jesus as "too woke". Additionally, with that, we've seen an uncomfortable merger of politics and religion on a level we really haven't seen in our lifetimes. Larger congregations have become outwardly political because they know no one has the balls to challenge their 501c3 status.

The smaller congregations are the ones that are typically doing those good things you mention. They don't have the ability nor rhe desire to speak out against the congregations that have moved away from religion and more toward being a Sunday political gathering.

So with all of that, asking someone like Ben what Christian conservatism is and asking someone that's MAGA what it is will get you 2 opposing and conflicting answers.

This kind of story literally killed Brian Williams's career on the Nightly News. For Trump, it's just another, meh

TrumpÂ*said he ‘went down’ inÂ*helicopter ‘emergency landing’ with former San Francisco mayor, who says it never happened | CNN Politics

I don't have the experience to talk too much, but it is distasteful to me how the more political the discussion/argument, the higher the hypothetical military and individual soldier ascend into unquestionable sainthood.

For sure many, many great men and women have served this country with amazing sacrifice and courage, and even more have done so unremarkably, but still with honor....but the armed forces also have a long, storied history as a literal haven for criminals, sociopaths, rapists and inveterate dipshits. It is hard for me to take all the jingoism and puffery seriously when military service gets suggested as some kind of league of superheroes.

There's basically no such thing any more in the Republican Party how I'd use that term. I'm sure many of y'all have seen this, but...





What does compassionate/biblicalconservatism look like to me today?

My buddy "Melvin" from above. Late 50s white male. Born and raised in Columbus, GA. Upper middle to upper class. Former youth pastor. He was a criminal justice major in college and is 100% convinced that the most practical way to reduce crime is to work with at-risk/underprivileged children and youth in the realm of education, job skills, leadership development, etc. Board member (and I'm certain also a major donor) of an organization that works with poor, mostly minority kids to enhance educational opportunities.


It's the church we are a part of in Greensboro. Holds to what most on here would call a "conservative/very conservative" ethic around marriage, family, etc. Also has one of--if not the--largest welcoming ministry to refugees in the area. (Greensboro has a shockingly large refugee community, especially from East Africa.) Even has a farm ministry that grows East African crops, because culture matters to people. Pours thousands of dollars into partnership with a group of churches and Compassion International in Rwanda. Delivers food and provides rides to work for dozens (hundreds?) of refugee families.



It's MercyMed in my old home town, where a board-certified physician has spent his entire career choosing to make FAR less $$$ than he could have, instead opting to run non-profit medical clinics providing services to the poor and underserved. (I've known the founder since I was around 15, and the founder's older brother was one of my groomsmen in 1998, and hosted the aforementioned gathering in July 2020.)


It's the baby boomer extremely prominent lawyer from my home town who put his "stamp of approval" on my mixed-race wedding in 1998--not a popular position among his peers at the time--by not only throwing a huge party for it, but MCing the rehearsal dinner. And it's the same dude in 2017ish basically daring any of the MAGA types in our home town to say a word when he plastered pics of his daughter, son-in-law, and their adopted black daughter ALL over social media. (That may not sound like a big deal, but he's 75. I assure you, it was a HUGE near-scandolous deal.)


It was the appeal of the 2013ish Republican "Autopsy," that provided a supposed blueprint for the part moving forward: more engagement of minorities, less focus on social issues, return to Reagan/Bush style positions on immigrations, etc.

...and then Trump happened.
Just a moment...

The only people Jesus EVER called out for "doing bad things" were religious leaders. He definitely didn't expect Gentiles to act like Jews. I don't expect people who don't claim to follow Jesus to act like they follow Jesus. That's just dumb.

This. One of the pastors who performed our wedding 26 years ago is now serving here in Greensboro. He's had MAGA folks leave his church over him preaching straight from the beatitudes. No "wokeness" whatsoever in this guy. HE IS FREAKING PCA! For those unaware, the PCA/Presbyterian Church in America across the board is probably the most......trying to find the right words here..."preach it the EXACT way the Bible teaches it" sort of "doctrinal purist" denomination there is. People probably think of Southern Baptists that way, but because of the way they're governed, there is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more latitude within individual congregations to take a more liberal or conservative interpretation of the Bible in the SBC than there is or ever will be in the PCA. They. Toe. The. Line.
The bottom line for me is that we're talking about people who claim to be Christians...but if they find their political opinions in conflict with the teachings of the Bible, their political opinions win, and as best as I can tell, they're not even ashamed or introspective about that fact.

That's my parents in a nutshell. Devout Catholics, everything in life revolves around religion or making everything about religion, but they love Trump, detest immigrants, talk down minorities in general (those they don't personally know), love to gamble, etc. Zero self-awareness of many things, one of them being their self-professed "life of Christ" juxtaposed by how they actually live their lives.

I just happened to be with them the day Biden stepped aside for Harris. They had to run home and put on Fox News to be bombarded with all the crap so they could literally seethe with contempt sitting on the couch. Mom had to throw out the "dumb black bitch" comment as the commentators were talking about her.

My brother and I talk all the time about what miserable people they have turned into. It's pretty sad. I definitely trace it back to the early/mid-90s Rush Limbaugh shows.

That's weird.

Sources say the former president’s flight was diverted to the Billings-Logan International Airport, and that it’s unlikely he will be flying into the Bozeman airport at this time. The president’s motorcade is no longer here at the airport.

— Bryanna Carroll (@BryannaNBCMT) August 9, 2024

I mean really that's why we have so many different Christian sects/denominations in the first place.

All of this speaks to why non-Christians shudder when they hear how passionate Christains are about saddling us all with the values they obviously and constantly neglect.

So who is "Melvin" voting for this year?

The people that amaze me are the ones who swore off Trump but are now all in again. My in laws are very republican, my mother in law is very MAGA although she hides it (no shirts, flags, etc....) but my FIL swore off Trump after 1/6. Now when I go to their house Newsmax is ALWAYS on so I suspect he is back in the fold.

Trump just put a $23.8 million dollar ad buy in Georgia. I believe they may be worried a little bit about Georgia.

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He's going to have a Bob Pirsig style breakdown?

Mechanical issues. Supposedly with the plane, not his brain.

now send money

Wouldn't it be ironic if the day after making up a story about being involved in an air disaster he actually was involved in an air disaster?

The only time I ever watch TV with ads is sports. Living in a battleground state it’s going to be very, very hard to watch football until after November 5th. I was just at restaurant with a lot of TVs and even with zero volume the sheer number of political ads was overwhelming. It doesn’t help that my wife works for a candidate running for Senate, which just makes it harder to really ignore.

I have had a Harris commercial every break watching the Olympics on Peacock.

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It's part of it, but I don't think it's even the largest factor. There are a lot of doctrinal disagreements that have nothing to do with politics whatsoever.


Yep. All you have to do is compare Ben to Jon and understand that, as Jon has said himself, a lot of Christian conservatives think he's too liberal.

As a rule, I don't do the bumper-sticker thing for various reasons, but I'm pondering getting a Harris one and seeing what the reaction is from the church I attend. I don't think they'd remove me from the membership, but it would definitely not be a popular POV and would likely upset some people. Politicking from the pulpit absolutely doesn't happen, and most of the time people know when to park it, but there is an 'under-the-radar' mindset that sometimes bubbles up in things like prayer meetings.

So have I, and I'm in KY.

he could make up another story then about how he fixed the plane and saved them all

I have to say this is one of the great things about living in Illinois.

Jersey!

Havent seen one

I can't wait to see the images on Twitter from blue checkmarks of Trump carrying a plane on his back.

With the hand of God helping just to keep the evangelicals happy

Eh, those people like Trump. They just don't want to admit it because it's looked down upon in certain social circles. It gives them an out if he loses or does something terrible.

Even on the issues you mentioned, there isn't much difference in say Biden and Trump. Biden isn't targeting anyone's 2nd Amendment rights. He hasn't put up much of a fight on abortion. And he's perfectly fine with tax cuts for the rich. Outside of some social issues, the platforms of the two major parties are eerily similar.

Like I'd love to hear any of these people who "held their nose and voted for Trump" actually explain what issues forced them to vote for him over Biden. What in their life did they see changing with Biden in charge over Trump? You won't get a real answer. Just some vague bullshit about socialism or some other crap because they're too cowardly to just admit they like Trump.

Their digital ad spending is way down and they don't even have field offices set up in important states. It's a big ad buy, but you have to wonder where all their money is going outside of TV spots.

I still get the idea that the family is just draining the coffers and banking on some rogue election officials not certifying the election and tossing it to SCOTUS. He's just not running a serious campaign.

They did reopen offices in Georgia just this week. Not saying the family isn't grifting, because they obviously are, but they have started actually spending money on the campaign.

Trump tells a story of a helicopter crash that nearly killed him and that Willie Brown was on the helicopter and told him terrible stories about Kamala Harris. The New York times writes a story debunking the claim, with Willi Brown denying it ever happened. Trump, as per his usual, is threatening to sue for slander saying he has proof. Then a Los Angels city councilman has come out saying that it was actually him. He commented, "I guess we all look alike."

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Just a moment...

Yeah and it was around 35 years ago. I'm sure Kamala Harris was a big topic of discussion.

Yeah, at the time, she was graduating from UC Hastings law school, where she was President of... wait for it... the Black Law Students Association.

Doubling down on the helicopter story despite the person he is claiming to have been on the helicopter with saying it never happened.

In the FAKE NEWS story done by the Failing New York Times on Willie Brown and his little helicopter ride with me many years ago, there were “Logs,” Maintenance Records, and Witnesses. There was also a story on “Willie and Me.” Why can’t the Radical Left Failing New York Times…

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) August 10, 2024

Unfortunately this veers back into presumption. I personally worked with people who chosen Trump over Biden at the last moment before the election and did so specifically due to the gun issue, based on things Biden actually said and proposed. It's every bit as much a real answer as you get from many voters in many campaigns, which often just comes down to feel rather than anything substantive (i.e. voting for incumbents when the economy is good irrespective of any actual economic policies contributing to that, one candidate or another just 'connecting' better, and so on)

lol

Then they're idiots and liars because Biden's gun policy has been known for longer than the last moments before an election. Maybe they don't realize they're lying, but they are

This is the real story though. Good line in there.

The other Black politician who says he was with Trump in that near-fatal chopper crash

There is definitely a contigent who likes to act outwardly that they begrudgingly vote Trump due to some nitpick about the other candidate but deep down they really do like him and how he lets them feel ok to be racist, sexist, etc..

The primary rationalization I see when you point out the major flaws trump has is, "They're all the same. I hate them all. They do the same thing trump does. He's no worse. Biden lies. Harris lies. You can't trust anything any of them say," so no matter the flaws he has, or the words he's spoken there's always a qualifier that makes it ok.

I was wondering this too. I guess it's nice that Melvin and others aren't racist -- that's a lot more than can be said about a lot of folks. But is the court thing fixed -- was it mostly about abortion -- or do they still have to work on other "traditional family" issues (limiting rights of women, taking away rights of LBGTQ+, establishing that sex outside of marriage -- and much inside marriage -- is not to be done)? Among the other things flere pointed out (dismembering public education, etc).

There are some people who view economic/tax policy as their single issue. Some people just don't care about the bigger picture. They just want what benefits them. They'd prefer someone other than Trump but whatever he does to others is not going to affect them. They just want the benefit of what comes from GOP in power. And there's a decent group of people for whom that's an economic issue, not culture war or religion or immigration.

Truth social had just $835k in revenue last quarter and lost $16 million.

He just needs to sue for advertisers.

"Today, Celine Dion’s management team and her record label, Sony Music Entertainment Canada Inc., became aware of the unauthorized usage of the video, recording, musical performance, and likeness of Celine Dion singing ‘My Heart Will Go On’ at a Donald Trump/JD Vance campaign rally in Montana. In no way is this use authorized, and Celine Dion does not endorse this or any similar use.…And really, that song?”

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^
weird

Last we talked about it (early 2023,) he said he was hoping Pence would run and "whoop" Trump. I just checked Open Secrets and the only two donations he has ever made are to Pence in July 2023 and Brian Kemp in 2022. We haven't talked about it since then, and it's looking like 2024 will be the first year of my life that I won't set foot in the state of Georgia, so it's highly unlikely that we'll get to talk in person before the election. My guess would be that given he donated to the campaign, he'll write in Pence again.


On nose-holders, I get it. I know quite a few of them, some of whom didn't just hold their noses, but fought HARD for the Republicans to nominate another candidate in each of the last three elections. (I mean, in 2016 I knew personally just about every individual listed on this page. I know literally no one on it now.) I could easily see myself being a Trump nose-holder if my life experiences were just a little different. I feel pretty confident that I'm doing the right thing, but to be honest, I still have doubts at times when it comes to voting for someone who might advance pro-choice policies. There's next to zero chance of me voting for Trump, but given Pence's stance on Jan 6 and his continued refusal to endorse Trump, if I lived in a state that treated write-ins as a vote, I'd consider going that route.

Somebody hacked the Trump campaign and they are blaming Iran.

Irony.

Because when you think trump you think Titanic.

they are not known for thinking through their movie-based-messaging, exactly...

For nearly three years we have been building a juggernaut campaign (Death Star). It is firing on all cylinders. Data, Digital, TV, Political, Surrogates, Coalitions, etc.

In a few days we start pressing FIRE for the first time. pic.twitter.com/aJgCNfx1m0

— Brad Parscale (@parscale) May 7, 2020

That too. A fair number of people care little about anything other than "how will this election impact ME?" It's "mind your own business" taken to the extreme. Although I wouldn't call people in that mindset "nose-holders." I'd think they just don't give a crap what a candidate says or does as long as they get their tax cuts, and therefore they just view Trump as a useful idiot more than anything else. (I do have one buddy from high school who stays in touch with me who fits squarely into this category. 7-figure income. Routinely golfs with John Smoltz and Chipper Jones. Views Trump as a simpleton, but will vote straight R ticket as long as his business and personal bottom lines benefit. He's Jewish by heritage, but doesn't even care one way or the other about the situation over there. He does seem to love his children, at least...)

Iran if you are listening...


Just a moment...

My people aren't a large group, but they exist. I found them in Columbus; I found them in Marietta; I found them in Tucker. I'm not saying that this type of voter ALONE cost Trump Georgia, but I am saying (and I believe I predicted it here at FOFC or perhaps at FOxL at the time it went down in 2020,) that RGB's passing and Barrett getting put on the court DEFINITELY cost Trump some pro-life 2016 nose-holders, because at that point having an R in the White House became less critical to that agenda. Again, doubt that many of them voted D, but it had to have made them feel a whole lot more at ease about writing in someone like Pence or just leaving the Presidential slot blank.

Yeah speaking of weird. That whole hacking story is…pretty weird. The info that Politico says they have isn’t exactly ground-breaking…

What economic policy are we talking about here that would cause them to overlook it? Both parties have very similar economic policies.

This just isn't true.

Just off the top of my head,

Upper income taxes
Child tax credit
Spending on clean energy
Unions
Crypto investing
Education spending
Fed independence
Corporate tax rate
CFPB

You can like/dislike, but there are plenty of differences.

Idiots is arguable, but not liars. Of course his policies were known before that; that's when they made their decision though. A sizable number of people don't make up their mind until the days before the election. They don't find politics in general, the 'horse race', etc. to be as interesting as many of these forums do.

The child tax credit literally expired under Biden when Dems controlled both the House and Senate. Dems haven't touched the upper income tax brackets in forever (they almost torpedoed the infrastructure bill so they could keep a tax break for the rich!). Education has not seen much spending difference between parties (heck, some of the biggest jumps we've seen is during Republican controlled Houses). And even Obama was proposing cuts to the corporate tax rate before Trump actually did it.

Democrats and Republicans got together to undo SEC regulations on crypto just a couple months ago. The Democrats just launched "Crypto for Harris" the other day.

There's a handful of economic issues they differ on. But they're incredibly minor and it's why we see almost no change in our economic policy no matter who is President. Maybe Ksyrup's friend is heavily invested in who holds seats on the NLRB, but my guess is they're just a Trump supporter who is afraid to admit it.

I would be very skeptical on believing anything until we have some word from official sources. Everything that has come out has been from the Trump campaign and I wouldn't trust a single thing they have to say.

Some years ago on this forum, I made the argument that voting should be based on the greater good rather than this kind of self-interest. I don't recall a single person agreeing with me, and a number disagreed. One of the opposing points of view was that if you prioritize the greater good, that's the kind of thing that ends up in situations like the Salem Witch Trials.

I have routinely voted against my self-interest. Voting Dem is voting against my self-interest, in fact. I work in a heavily-regulated industry. Having the GOP decide who runs the FTC, CFPB, etc., instead of Elizabeth Warren woudl be much better for my business.

An expanded CTC was literally just killed by the GOP in the Senate.

The GOP wants to eliminate the Dept of Ed

The GOP wants to invest billions in a Bitcoin reserve

etc.

Again, this isn't to argue for or against, but it's just inaccurate to say they have the same policies.

Talk is cheap. Actions are all that matter. Both parties have carried out nearly identical economic policies over the past few decades when in power. I just don't buy that someone is choosing Trump because of an NLRB seat or some Bitcoin investments that will never happen. Those people just like Trump and are scared to admit it to their friends.

So if I don't vote my interests then who will? Will you vote for my interests over yours?

It's not voting individual interests, it's voting for politicians who will likely support policies that may benefit others either at your expense or that won't benefit you at all.

I'm voting for Harris. If she supports policies that benefit lower economic classes, or that might result in my taxes increasing, I'm fine with that (as a generic issue, not knowing what the specifics of any such policy are). I'm not looking for someone to counteract my vote by voting for my interests. This isn't some quid pro quo situation.

It is absolutely in my interest to not vote for someone who will raise taxes for a cause that I don't benefit from.

I guess I don't understand your point. That goes without saying. I'm saying some people - like me, now - are choosing to vote against our self-interests because we see the bigger picture as way more important at this particular moment. I don't expect you or anyone else to "take up the slack" by making sure my interests are represented.

You vote how you want. If that's to help yourself, fine. I see more benefit in voting for people whose policies either don't benefit me (at least not personally, although I feel I will benefit from an authoritarian not being in office) or may actually harm me financially. I don't know whether that will in fact be the case since I fall short of the baseline household income that seems to separate rich from not rich, but there's no question that the business I am a part-owner of would benefit from the GOP being in charge of economic and market conduct policies. I'm choosing... the US, I guess?

No taxes on tips is still unworkable and stupid.

I like it as a political slogan though. You’re trying to get some votes from low information 20-year-olds working service jobs.

Yeah, as a policy, it is unworkable. But it’s just trying to get some votes.

This is where I am at. We are in the 37% tax bracket and if Trump wins we could go down to 30% which would be a lot of money but we would rather preserve democracy and let some poor kids have free lunch over some extra money in our bank accounts.

Exactly. I still care that such programs are administered smartly, but I am choosing to vote for a party attempting to help the less fortunate rather than the party that puts callousness ahead of compassion.

There was talk earlier in the thread about what happened to compassionate conservatism? That's for RINOs! Today's GOP not only is against such things, but actively speak out against in cruel terms - governors who refused to opt in to the federal free lunch program saying they don't believe in welfare, or using the ridiculous argument that there's already too much childhood obesity, or local GOP reps saying things like "hunger is relative." They aren't even primarily falling back on the typical arguments - they're just going straight to callousness - all while supporting other forms of welfare for corporations at the expense of the same people they deny benefits to. I've heard enough of that BS.

Hercules Star Kevin Sorbo Tells Kamala Harris to Say the N-word If She Really Is Black

There's something weird going on with these folks.

Lucy Lawless roasted him.

Grandpa needs to go to the home soon.

Aggressively not smart. pic.twitter.com/4xDlNSkmBm

— Dan McClellan (@maklelan) August 11, 2024

I wonder if someone's feeding him these ideas directly, he just extrapolating on some half-sentence he heard Barron read on twitter, or if he's just pulling it out of his ass entirely.

JD Vance in drag while attending Yale law school (per some random guy on Twitter fwiw)

He is always online. He sees something someone posts and jumps on it.

I can honestly say that as a straight, liberal white male, I've never dressed as a woman and the thought has never really been entertained in my head. It's like they hate themselves so much for having had those thoughts at some point that they have to punish the people who enjoy it.

This has been a tik tok conspiracy being pushed and, of course, thoroughly debunked the past few days. It probably originated on twitter.

Someone is definitely feeding him this nonsense.

Ummmm...I have. A couple times. Once for Halloween and once for a play. Don't think it is that big a deal unless...

That wig is so bad that I think this is disqualified from being 'actual' drag, but the dude is sinking and if they get to throw shit against the wall why can't we?

Sup with the secret service having IBS. Broke into some salon to use the toilets.

I tell you, the Secret Sevive needs a complete clean out. Whoever broke into that door must be arrested.

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First Scott Baio now sorbo. These F-List actors...

"This has been a tik tok conspiracy being pushed and, of course, thoroughly debunked the past few days. It probably originated on twitter."

I'm telling you the people that believe this stuff. Numerous people posting their own video of that day to prove the crowd was there and still people immediately posting "it's fake. How much are they paying you?" The level of mass insanity.....

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Couple charges wedding guests $333 each in effort to save money

I think Trump should try something like this. And then he can photoshop in all the people he wants and charge himself! Perfect scam!

Watching the closing ceremonies in Paris and the thought occurred to me - can you imagine Trump giving an opening/closing speech in LA in 2028 and going off-script?

You guys did not have "opposite" day during homecoming week in high school?

Boys dressed like girls(makeup and all), girls dressed like boys (including every girl wearing eye black for some reason), kids could wear their regular clothes inside out, or the kid who wore shorts and t-shirts every day, it would be the one day you would put on some suit. The hairy chested offensive guard showing a bunch of cleavage and lots of toilet paper in his cheap dress was a homecoming staple in the late 80s in South Florida.

Ahh the good ol' days.

Nope, but I lived in a small town in South Carolina.

Well, I guess Trump is coming back to Twitter. He is going to make a live speech tonight.

Definitely panicking.

Although I still think the election is his to lose. I saw somewhere that Clinton and Biden were ahead in the polls 5% and 8% a few months before their elections and we saw how those turned out - an L and a razor-thin W. Harris might be up 2 or 3%, which is great considering where Biden was, but that trajectory needs to continue. Still, it's hard to imagine nothing but good news and error-free campaigning for another 3 months. At some point this is going to settle in.

Trump, as always, is the wild card, as maybe he can do damage to himself even as Harris's momentum slows. Whatever it takes to grow the margins.

I agree that things are not as bad for Trump as even he seems to think they are.

Someone pointed out that if he flips Pennsylvania and Georgia and everything else stays the same from 2020, he gets 270 on the nose.

He can basically run a two-state strategy.

Except he is doing one rally a week at best and has spent his time out west in favorable states. I don't think he can stand the idea of doing a rally and having a smaller crown than Kamala.

I am also seeing a lot of X, so take it for what it is worth, that he can't do rallys in a lot of places because he still owes them money.