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Racer 11-20-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs (Post 1891134)
I don't know what the hell that was all about next week, though. I also thought that maybe Bob was just trying to cover his ass with Corinne, but that really doesn't make any sense if you think about it...


Yeah, it didn't make any sense to me either. Marcus would have returned to the Kota camp after the fake merge feast. If my memory serves me right the Nobag camp is the old Fang camp. Maybe it's a recap episode (if there is one).

LloydLungs 11-20-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1891173)
What a complete idiot Randy was and Corrinne for that matter.


Well, Randy/Corrine's biggest mistake was underestimating Sugar. They just assumed Bob must have the idol even though Sugar has practically lived on exile island for most of the game. They just assumed she was so stupid that she couldn't possibly have it. Sugar is neither brilliant nor a great player, but she is far from a dunce.

I can understand thinking the idol itself was real. It looked damned convincing. Nothing like the ridiculous stick from last season.

Racer 11-20-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1891143)
Didn't everyone see what the idol they threw into the ocean looked like? If Corryn saw it then she would know that the fake idol Bob gave to Randy wasn't the one Marcus threw into the ocean so it wouldn't be Bob just trying to cover his ass.


I'm not sure if Corryn ever saw it, but Randy was the one who found the idle.

LloydLungs 11-20-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1891187)
Yeah, it didn't make any sense to me either. Marcus would have returned to the Kota camp after the fake merge feast. If my memory serves me right the Nobag camp is the old Fang camp. Maybe it's a recap episode (if there is one).


Plus, as pointed out, I think they all saw the idol at the time. But even ignoring that, it seems like such an elaborate story would get denied eventually once Corrine (presumably) ends up in loser lodge with Marcus. And this seems unnecessary anyway, because if Bob wants to cover his ass he can easily just say the fake idol was planted on EI by the person who found the real idol.

Nope, it's not an ass-covering maneuver. So what is it? I'm genuinely intrigued. Are we being taken for a ride here by the producers??

Kodos 11-20-2008 11:18 PM

That was perhaps the best tribal council ever.

Lathum 11-21-2008 12:09 AM

easily one of the best survivor moments

Racer 11-23-2008 07:18 PM

Looks like this Thursday will be the recap episode. Not surprising since it'll be Thanksgiving.

Raiders Army 11-23-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1892662)
Looks like this Thursday will be the recap episode. Not surprising since it'll be Thanksgiving.


You know, I was wondering why Randy was featured. That makes sense.

sachmo71 11-24-2008 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1891173)
Man that had to be one of the best Survivor moments ever! That plus Crystal shouting after she wrote Randy's name down so everybody heard her. What a complete idiot Randy was and Corrinne for that matter.


it was a good plan for them, though. they were outnumbered and had to twist the game. im not sure why they instantly assumed Bob found the idol, but they had every reason to trust him. but to see a tool like Randy get his like that is wonderful.

Racer 12-04-2008 09:31 PM

I don't understand why Kenny and Crystal decided to split their votes like that. If Corinne actually had an idle, what difference does it make whether the vote is five votes Corrinne to two votes Matty or four votes Corrine to three Matty? Matt would go home either way. Now, there is no reason why Sugar, Matty, and Suzie should trust Kenny at all. Very dumb decision in my opinion.

Izulde 12-04-2008 11:20 PM

So who got voted off?

LloydLungs 12-04-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1898540)
I don't understand why Kenny and Crystal decided to split their votes like that. If Corinne actually had an idle, what difference does it make whether the vote is five votes Corrinne to two votes Matty or four votes Corrine to three Matty? Matt would go home either way. Now, there is no reason why Sugar, Matty, and Suzie should trust Kenny at all. Very dumb decision in my opinion.


Yep. It could theoretically have the effect of helping Kenny in the finals if he gets that far (perhaps making Corrine and Bob more likely to vote for him), but I don't think that was his thought process -- or if it was, he's getting too cute with his strategy. I can't see how he wouldn't be voted out next week. Wouldn't Sugar, Susie, and Matty be gunning for him now? And shouldn't it be easy to get Bob on board as a fourth vote, seeing as how he's probably next otherwise?

Swaggs 12-05-2008 06:41 AM

At this point, Bob deserves to win. I know Ozzy screwed around with the idea, but making impressive fake idols and pulling it off twice is a pretty new wrinkle to a pretty established game (I think they are in their 14th or 15th season).

If I'm still alive on that game, I think I would try to allign with Susie and Sugar. If you get to the final three with them, you are golden.

Thomkal 12-05-2008 07:36 AM

Corinne was voted off Izulde. Credit to her and Bob for trying though and nearly pulling it off. Matty is not going to be pleased when they go back to camp and Bob should play that up as much as he can. So glad he won immunity last night. I honestly didn't think he would last long in this game, but lucked out with initial tribe being so good. But his fake idols and knowledge and winning challenges at his age and physical condition (did you see him without his shirt?) have been a great story this season.

I think Kenny's days as ringleader are over after this vote.

Kodos 12-05-2008 09:07 AM

Just glad to see Corinne gone.

Raiders Army 12-05-2008 09:28 AM

Is it just me, or does Corrinne look like Courtney Cox? And does Matty look like Leonardo DiCaprio?

Jas_lov 12-05-2008 05:19 PM

Kenny and Sugar would be foolish to let Bob get any further as he would be tough to beat in the finals.

Bob would beat anyone in the finals with his 4 votes already sitting on the jury.

Matty and Kenny's goal is to get rid of each other and Bob because if they're in the finals with any two of Sugar, Suzie, and Crystal they are guaranteed victory.

Sugar's only chance to win is to get to the finals with Suzie and Crystal, the only two more worthless than her. She is too hated to beat any of the others.

Suzie and Crystal have no chance of winning and are just taking up space.

gstelmack 12-08-2008 11:55 AM

Brilliant play by Bob and Corrinne. It may not have saved Corrinne, but it got Kenny's head on the chopping block and should start the in-fighting with the other tribe. And Crystal will benefit as well, as she voted Corrinne with the rest. Should be interesting to see Kenny weasel out of this, and which way Bob decides to go in the fight.

gstelmack 12-08-2008 11:56 AM

Oh, and with 6 left, we have one more episode Thursday, then the finale Sunday? We getting another final 3?

Mizzou B-ball fan 12-08-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack (Post 1900607)
Brilliant play by Bob and Corrinne. It may not have saved Corrinne, but it got Kenny's head on the chopping block and should start the in-fighting with the other tribe. And Crystal will benefit as well, as she voted Corrinne with the rest. Should be interesting to see Kenny weasel out of this, and which way Bob decides to go in the fight.


Yep, there's going to be a lot of fingerpointed over that single vote from Kenny. I'm sure the first words we'll hear out of Matty in the opening scene when they return to camp will be, "Who the hell voted for me outside of Bob and Corrine?".

Atocep 12-08-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs (Post 1898629)
Yep. It could theoretically have the effect of helping Kenny in the finals if he gets that far (perhaps making Corrine and Bob more likely to vote for him), but I don't think that was his thought process -- or if it was, he's getting too cute with his strategy. I can't see how he wouldn't be voted out next week. Wouldn't Sugar, Susie, and Matty be gunning for him now? And shouldn't it be easy to get Bob on board as a fourth vote, seeing as how he's probably next otherwise?


I really don't understand Kenny's move there. Splitting his and Crystal's votes just doesn't make any sense at all and it puts him in a position where he now has to explain himself to his alliance.

Matty comes across to me as a follower and fairly weak personality-wise, though, so I wouldn't be shocked if Kenny smoothed things over with him.

Bob is in a position now where he could completely blow things up. If he doesn't press this issue with Matty, Sugar, and Susie he's an idiot.

Anyone else find Kenny's comments about Bob not having a plan funny?

Raiders Army 12-11-2008 08:11 PM

Well, Sugar is definitely an idiot. She could've won straight up against Susie, Kenny, or Crystal. Now, she saved Bob and Matty. Unless she tries to play the "strategist" angle, which she really can't, she won't win.

This crap about the "good guys" winning is...well, crap.

Jas_lov 12-11-2008 08:40 PM

Sugar is stupid. Her only shot was against Suzie and Crystal. Bob is gonna win this easily if he gets to the finals. Hopefully he keeps winning immunity because if they're smart they'll get rid of him asap. But they'll probably vote out the "bad guy" Kenny, instead. At least Crystal is finally gone. She was the least deserving final 6 contestant in Survivor history.

Racer 12-11-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1902655)
Sugar is stupid. Her only shot was against Suzie and Crystal. Bob is gonna win this easily if he gets to the finals. Hopefully he keeps winning immunity because if they're smart they'll get rid of him asap. But they'll probably vote out the "bad guy" Kenny, instead. At least Crystal is finally gone. She was the least deserving final 6 contestant in Survivor history.


That honor would have to go to Lillian and Burton from Survivor Pearl Islands, two players who got voted out of the game and then got to come back in the infamous "outcast" twist.

EagleFan 12-11-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1902655)
Sugar is stupid. Her only shot was against Suzie and Crystal. Bob is gonna win this easily if he gets to the finals. Hopefully he keeps winning immunity because if they're smart they'll get rid of him asap. But they'll probably vote out the "bad guy" Kenny, instead. At least Crystal is finally gone. She was the least deserving final 6 contestant in Survivor history.


Actually, she's not even least deserving among the current group. Suzie takes those honors. She is a close second though.

I think she is easiy the least athletic "olympic champion" ever. What the hell was her event? It doesn't seem to be anything that involved speed, stamina, coordination or agility.

Racer 12-11-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1902673)
Actually, she's not even least deserving among the current group. Suzie takes those honors. She is a close second though.

I think she is easiy the least athletic "olympic champion" ever. What the hell was her event? It doesn't seem to be anything that involved speed, stamina, coordination or agility.


I think she won the gold in the 4x100. I'm surprised she didn't do better in tonight's reward challenge, but a lot of the challenges this season haven't had anything to do with speed or strength. There is quite a bit of technique involved in the 100 and 200 meter dashes so I'm surprised she hasn't done better at challenges involving technique as one of its component.

CraigSca 12-11-2008 09:29 PM

I'm liking Sugar more and more. I realize the whole point of the game is to win, but I admire her for the "good guys" comment.

EagleFan 12-11-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca (Post 1902688)
I'm liking Sugar more and more. I realize the whole point of the game is to win, but I admire her for the "good guys" comment.


Since when is Matty a "good guy"? He's the jackass that was taunting Bob in one of the earlier challenges.

Sugar is a little too emotionally unstable. She has flopped all over the place based on whoever has given her the most recent sob story.


Prediction for Sunday: Sugar cries (going out on a limb here)

EagleFan 12-11-2008 09:42 PM

dola: Plus this game is not about being a "ggod guy". You can;t judge anyone in the game solely on how they play the game (sxample being Kenny, he hasn't done or said things that make me feel he is a bad person, he is just playing the game. The other side is Randy, he made enough statements to make me feel pretty sure he is an asshole in real life).

Racer 12-11-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1902692)

Prediction for Sunday: Sugar cries (going out on a limb here)


Bold prediction. :lol:

Jas_lov 12-11-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1902673)
Actually, she's not even least deserving among the current group. Suzie takes those honors. She is a close second though.

I think she is easiy the least athletic "olympic champion" ever. What the hell was her event? It doesn't seem to be anything that involved speed, stamina, coordination or agility.


Suzie won the fire challenge. Crystal has done nothing. She is completely worthless. If it were Suzie and Crystal in the final 2, Suzie would win by a landslide. Crystal is a bigger joke than Randy's mohawk.

EagleFan 12-11-2008 10:01 PM

All I can say is... Go Bob

Who would have seen this coming, Bob dominating challenges.

thealmighty 12-11-2008 10:24 PM

The funniest little snippet was the end of the ball challenge when Crystal went to dunk her ball...and missed. :)

LloydLungs 12-11-2008 10:35 PM

I think Sugar's a pretty good player. Not great -- she does play too emotionally -- but good. She has absolutely no prayer of winning because she has no prayer of getting any of the Kota alliance's votes in the finals, no matter who else is there with her. I think she recognizes that, and is putting her game playing skills towards engineering a win for players that she would like to see win. Which makes this kind of a weird season right now, with one of the hardest-playing gamers essentially playing for others.

gstelmack 12-12-2008 09:35 AM

Sugar reminds me of Cody (?) from Survivor Australia who decided he wanted the best person with him in the finale. And whatever the outcome of her decision, that was a BRILLIANT plan to pull off what she wanted. Holding the hidden idol, then handing it to Matty to turn in was great. Keep in mind she is the first Survivor in how long to actually play a hidden immunity idol and have it work...

I thought Bob's best shot was getting Matty and Suzy to turn on the other 3, but Sugar saved him. I actually think Bob is not playing a very strategic game, just a solid good-guy game and dominating challenges and working around camp.

Thomkal 12-12-2008 10:40 AM

well I'm certainly not torn up over Crystal leaving-as others have said one of the worse final 6 finalists ever. Her performance in both challenges were pitiful-wandering off the course and not making a single basket even the dunk. Having said that, Kenny would have been the wiser one to take out of the Kenny-Crystal duo. Kenny has won a challenge and at least showed some brains and idea of strategy. Would much rather have Crystal in the Final 3 then Kenny.

Loved Sugar giving Matty the idol at Tribal just for the drama and look on the others faces, but probably a stupid move on her part to save "the most physical" threat. Actually I think Bob is now, but she needs to get rid of both of them if she wants any chance of winning.

And Randy's mohawk....just ugh.

Mizzou B-ball fan 12-12-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack (Post 1902854)
Keep in mind she is the first Survivor in how long to actually play a hidden immunity idol and have it work.


Actually, that move didn't come into play. The final vote was Crystal 4, Matty 2, so it didn't have any effect other than theater in the end. A more accurate statement is that she's the first immunity idol holder in some time to avoid getting back-doored while holding the idol. She definitely played it well while never actually playing it.

Racer 12-12-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1902694)
dola: Plus this game is not about being a "ggod guy". You can;t judge anyone in the game solely on how they play the game (sxample being Kenny, he hasn't done or said things that make me feel he is a bad person, he is just playing the game. The other side is Randy, he made enough statements to make me feel pretty sure he is an asshole in real life).


Watching the latest Pondersosa videos on cbs.com, Randy, Corinne, and Marcus are striking me as very bitter and petty people. Crystal and Charlie seem like decent people.

Mota 12-12-2008 08:39 PM

I think Suzie is one of the most useless players in the entire history of Survivor. I really didn't like Crystal, but she made it onto the TV screen once in a while. Suzie gets no play on TV because she is so dull. Doesn't ever take part in strategy sessions. Doesn't ever come close to winning challenges. She basically is just THERE.

I'm hoping Kenny takes it all, but he's at a huge disadvantage at this point, he needs to win 2 challenges to make it. Definitely alone at this point unless he can make Sugar cry and get her to flip flop AGAIN.

Raiders Army 12-13-2008 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1903056)
Watching the latest Pondersosa videos on cbs.com, Randy, Corinne, and Marcus are striking me as very bitter and petty people. Crystal and Charlie seem like decent people.


I'd agree. Crystal wasn't bitter on her exit video which is more than what you can say for the others. Charlie also was pleasant. Both of them realized it's a game and they got blindsided and weren't bitter about it.

Thomkal 12-13-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mota (Post 1903191)
I think Suzie is one of the most useless players in the entire history of Survivor. I really didn't like Crystal, but she made it onto the TV screen once in a while. Suzie gets no play on TV because she is so dull. Doesn't ever take part in strategy sessions. Doesn't ever come close to winning challenges. She basically is just THERE.

I'm hoping Kenny takes it all, but he's at a huge disadvantage at this point, he needs to win 2 challenges to make it. Definitely alone at this point unless he can make Sugar cry and get her to flip flop AGAIN.


Actually Susie won one challenge. :) But yeah I agree with you. It looked like she might start making some strategic moves when Marcus got the axe, but then she melted into the background again.

Galaril 12-13-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1903497)
I'd agree. Crystal wasn't bitter on her exit video which is more than what you can say for the others. Charlie also was pleasant. Both of them realized it's a game and they got blindsided and weren't bitter about it.


Randy now has gone serial killer scary with his mohawk. What the fuck is up with that? Who would let this toolbag do their wedding video? And Corrinne comment I wish Bob and Kenny luck and thw rest " I hope they have miserable LIVES!" It is just a game get a fucking grip bitch. Geez

EagleFan 12-14-2008 07:53 PM

Spoiler

Jas_lov 12-14-2008 07:53 PM

Bob is so awesome. I hope he wins. Sugar is an idiot for wanting to go to the final 3 with Matty and Bob. She won't get a single vote if that's the case.

EagleFan 12-14-2008 08:08 PM

Spoiler

Jas_lov 12-14-2008 08:10 PM

I've got a feeling Bob will lose the next challenge to Matty and he'll get voted out. With Kenny gone, only Bob deserves to win this game. Sugar is an idiot, Matty has done nothing gameplay wise, and Suzie is worthless.

EagleFan 12-14-2008 08:34 PM

Spoiler

Jas_lov 12-14-2008 08:35 PM

And of all people Suzie wins the last immunity. This probably means Bob is gone as Matty and Sugar are close. Matty is going to win this by doing nothing all game. He will be the worst winner in survivor history.

Jas_lov 12-14-2008 08:43 PM

I mean, Suzie has done more to win than Matty. She's won challenges and was part of the biggest tribe switch. Hopefully they're serious about the tie and Bob pulls through.

EagleFan 12-14-2008 08:43 PM

Spoiler


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