David Bell on the list.....called that.

Wally Joyner. :(

Albert Pujols!

Anyone guessing if A-Rod will be named? My guess is even if he DID do anything, he won't be named because baseball wants him to overtake Bonds' HR record and they don't want Rodriguez to be tainted as well.

If Mitchell found anything on him he'll be in the report. The homerun record won't be considered.

Glad to see Pujols was finally called out for the roid freak that he is.

If they threw pujols on there, they'd throw arod on there if they had proof

pettitte unofficially official

I was thinking the same thing about the Pirates. :)

Wally Joyner and Rich Garces are the two most surprising to me.

Count me among those who cannot wait to hear all the denials and lawsuit threats (that will somehow not come to light).

I bet Dykstra had roids flavored side chew.

So who isn't on the list that is surprising/refreshing?

Griffey, Frank Thomas, who else?

Piazza.

There's no proof A-Rod has done steroids. None at all. A-Rod is just that good that he doesn't need them. He's not like that fraud and cheater Albert Pujols.

Not even a Sox fan, but very disappointed to see Varitek and Nomar on the list. Both of them seemed like good guys.

I can't say I'm surprised about Pujols. Dude is just freakishly, 0% body fat ripped.

Props to Gregg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz as well...

This absolutely amazes me. If you'd have asked me for a list of 5 guys (other than the guys who had already been outed) that would have been in there, Piazza would have been one of them. If he really didn't juice that is amazing.

I'm kind of impressed that some of the older pitchers that are still kicking around were clean. Guys like David Wells and Jaime Moyer.

I'm amazed that you guys are talking the fake list so truthfully. I personally will wait for 1 hour to see the real list first before I start lighting torches.

I am glad about Varitek. He annoys the hell out of me by wearing that stupid "C" on his jersey.

This is a text sim message board. We can light whatever torches we feel. We don't even need a list for that.

I'm amazed that people are assuming that anyone not on the list is "clean", even though the list is supposed to be a sampling and not complete.

For those of you playing at home, MLB has denied this list is accurate. There are a lot of mis-spellings on it and Glaus is on twice.

Hey guys, long time no see. :) Felt like posting this for some reason...




Oh, and those of you surprised to see Wally Joyner's name on the list must have missed it when he admitted in 2005 to ESPN Mag that he got roids from Caminiti when both were on the Padres in 1998, I believe it was.

And I'm glad to see Johnny Damon on the list. I hate that fucker. What a worthless piece of shit he is, to marry his high school sweetheart, have triplets, become a very good baseball player, and then decide that he should live the rock star lifestyle, cheat on his wife, ignore his kids, divorce her, then write a book about it all. I hope his nuts shrivel up, fall off, and he keels over at 42. Other than that, I wish him a happy 2008 season.

What hasn't MLB denies at this point in regards to 'roids?

but other than those problems, the list is accurate:)

Cameron? That's my biggest disappointment on the unofficial list.

As for Varitek with the Mariners, I don't even remember him having much more than a cup of coffee at the major league level before he was traded.

Some of you guys must be living in a cave. Mike Cameron was just suspended for the first 25 games of next year.

Still don't know why the Yankees signed that bum.

Interoffice Memo to the Steinbrenner's:
cc: Brian Cashman:

Please do not sign any more overpriced, past their prime free agents. Carl Pavano, Tanyon Sturtze, Jason Giambi, Randy Johnson (via trade), Johnny Damon, and numerous others HAVE NOT WORKED OUT!!

Promote from within. Just like Microsoft. LOL.
:rolleyes:

Probably not true. Selig wants to distance himself as much as possible from the whole Barry Bonds debacle. His best way to do that is to promote the only current player whom has a chance to surpass Bonds: Alex Rodriguez. I doubt A-Rod has taken anything, but at the same time I would not be surprised if he has either.

I look like that and I don't do roids.

The following is a list of players already having implications of some sort. So any of these guys are probably on the real list already. Since the list is only 60-80 players I suspect we won't have many new names coming out.

List pulled from http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/

Total
64
24 Pitchers
Admitted Users
Ken Caminiti
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Armando Rios
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Jose Canseco
Tom House
Wally Joyner
Jim Leyritz
Paxton Crawford
Jason Grimsley
David Segui
John Rocker
Paul Byrd
Total: 17

Implicated Players
Mark McGwire
Manny Alexander
Chuck Finley
Marvin Bernard
Randy Velarde
Wilson Alvarez
Bret Boone
Ozzie Canseco
Juan Gonzalez
Dave Martinez
Ivan Rodriguez
Tony Saunders
Miguel Tejada
Lenny Dykstra
Dave Hollins
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Brian Roberts
Jay Gibbons
Gary Matthews Jr.
Jerry Hairston Jr.
David Bell
Darren Holmes
Rick Ankiel
Troy Glaus
Scott Schoeneweis
Matt Williams
Jose Guillen
Ismael Valdez
Total: 29

MLB Positive Tests
Alex Sanchez
Jorge Piedra
Agustin Montero
Jamal Strong
Juan Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Rafael Palmeiro
Ryan Franklin
Mike Morse
Carlos Almanzar
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Yusaku Iriki
Guillermo Mota
Juan Salas
Dan Serafini
Total: 16

Non-MLB Positive Tests
Terrmel Sledge*
Derek Turnbow*
Total: 2

Griffey not being on the list is NOT surprising! He's never been ripped, just slowly getting fatter as the years go by.

Also, no Larkin! My baseball life can continue.

That list is sad, because, with all those names I feel stupid for not thinking they might be on roids, all those guys are ripped.

Ripken not being on the list is somewhat surprising to me. I thought for sure that he'd show as a user to continue the streak but glad he's not on any list public so far.

Listening to Steve Phillips try to defend himself JUST in case his name might be mentioned is hilarious.

Least Surprising Inclusion: (tie) Ozzie Canseco and Jeremy Giambi
Most Surprising Exclusion: No Bonds? hmmmm list must be bad
How many roids did Juan Gonzalez take to get on there 2x?

LoDuca, thats out of LF.

Rondell White?

Stop smiling Dan Duquette, stop smiling!

Mo Vaughn, Paul Lo Duca, Eric Gagne, Glenallen Hill, Gregg Zaun, Rondell White, Hal Morris, Todd Hundley, Larry Bigbie, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Matt Herges, Kevin Brown and Mike Lansing, David Justice, Brian Roberts, Miguel Tejada, Clemens, Pettitte, Grimsley, Segui, Mike Stanton, CHuck Knoblach

These are confirmed

LOL :D

I'm far more interested in the fallout and hearing what players will say after being implicated.

Did the bolded guy even have a prime?? :)

Yeah, isn't this just a list of confirmed guys? So if someone isn't on it, they could still be juice bags...

The report itself does not have a list. From what I have seen.

Nope. No list. It just implicates people based on the interviewing and information he obtained.

Greg Zaun!!!!! Nooooo!!!!!

I like the checks and packaging slips at the end of the report. Its classic.

Oh yeah, spoiler alert

Oh and I was unable to find the names Bagwell or Pujols named in the report. :)

From Pages 113-114:

Conte told the agents that he had sold “the cream” and “the clear,” and advised on
their use, to dozens of elite athletes, including several players in Major League Baseball whom
he named in the interview: Barry Bonds; Jason Giambi; Jeremy Giambi; Armando Rios; and
Gary Sheffield.300 In that regard, Conte explained:
At the beginning of this major league baseball season, Greg
Anderson, a personal trainer at Bay Area Fitness who works closely with
several major league baseball players, brought in several of the players to
Balco in order to obtain the undetectable cream and clear. This was done
because of Major League Baseball’s new drug testing policy. Barry
Bonds was one of the players that Anderson brought to Conte to obtain
“the clear” and “the cream”. Bonds takes “the clear” and “the cream” on a
regular basis. The protocol for using the substances is two times per week
for “the clear” and two times per week for “the cream”. The athletes do
this for three weeks then take one week off. [BALCO vice president] Jim
Valente deals more with Anderson than Conte does. Anderson last got
some of “the clear” and “the cream” from Conte for his athletes about
three (3) or (4) weeks ago.

Conte told the agents that “Barry Bonds does not pay Conte for ‘the clear’ and ‘the cream’ that
he receives. Bonds’ payment is in the form of promotion for Conte’s ZMA product."

Denny Naegle.... Jump on that train!!!!