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Poli 04-09-2007 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1437199)
No.

So can I assume if I sue someone I can still be hired as well? :)

hoopsguy 04-09-2007 09:17 AM

Autumn, I don't like random checks because that serves to disguise voting patterns. However, if people want to double-up (or triple-up, if that is perceived as necessary) on people on a given day to validate results then that makes sense to me. An alternative to doubling up on a given day is to check a person on Day 2 who was also reviewed on Day 1.

One area of concern - it does not sound like the court system is going to be able to hear all of our suits. So our best efforts to cross-check each other may be slowed down by the judicial process.

Autumn 04-09-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1437200)
I'm fine with the lawsuit - I won't slide any further down the economics scale, so nothing lost on that front. I'm also loyal to Rome and if being sued a few times is the best way to prove this then so be it.

I'll put my lawsuit on a new senator, one who has relatively little reputation amongst our numbers. I was worried earlier that his statements did not demonstrate an understanding of the wealth system in our state - something that might prove true of a Tarq.

HOOPUS GUYUS SUES AUTUMNUS LEAVUS


That is fine with me, fellow Senator, especially as it will not cause a concentration of wealth anywhere in this Senate.

I still believe we should agree on a system of deciding suit matchups to avoid anyone playing games.

I will wait to make a suit to see if anyone else agrees with this idea. But certainly, as Alanus Teeus has said, we need to make sure to check out our prominent members, and possible Consuls.

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1437205)
So can I assume if I sue someone I can still be hired as well? :)


Correct. This may have been unclear, but you can't represent yourself. Players who do not hire one of the two best lawyers are considered to have hired a generic lawyer.

Coffee Warlord 04-09-2007 09:19 AM

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this game. But, the Roman Yak Monopoly's legal department has suggested a course of action.

Coffeus Yakus Warlordus Sues Ironsus Headus

Barkeep49 04-09-2007 09:25 AM

So no random lawsuits. But as people start to sue, which appears to be our D1 substitute for voting, it would be nice if they gave a reason. Just like it's nice when people give a reason for voting.

Poli 04-09-2007 09:28 AM

Can I sue for the title of best lawyer?

Coffee Warlord 04-09-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1437221)
So no random lawsuits. But as people start to sue, which appears to be our D1 substitute for voting, it would be nice if they gave a reason. Just like it's nice when people give a reason for voting.


From what I understand, the Consuls can arrest someone and we theoretically could still have a lynch attempt today.

And no. I have no reason for my lawsuit aside from the fact that I want to be richer. Completely selfish reasons.

DaddyTorgo 04-09-2007 09:31 AM

blah. remembering my roman name is going to kill my posting frequency. so instead of that

DADDYTORGO SUES WVUFAN

I'm open to whoever suing me. I don't have any great wealth and I'm not a traitor, so I have nothing to lose.

DaddyTorgo 04-09-2007 09:32 AM

oh wow. i missed the flurry of posts there. i'm open to changing my suit

Alan T 04-09-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1437227)
From what I understand, the Consuls can arrest someone and we theoretically could still have a lynch attempt today.

And no. I have no reason for my lawsuit aside from the fact that I want to be richer. Completely selfish reasons.


My understanding is if someone is arrested today, they will be voted on tommorrow, not today.

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1437233)
My understanding is if someone is arrested today, they will be voted on tommorrow, not today.


correct

Coffee Warlord 04-09-2007 09:37 AM

Ah, you're right.

Autumn 04-09-2007 09:39 AM

It seems important that we make sure to investigate our most prominent citizens. One of our consuls, Alanus Teeus is already under suit. We should make sure to also sue Westvus Fanus and our Tribune Saldanus Lathumus. After that it would make sense to me to sue the best lawyers in the Rome, as we don't now whether a traitorous lawyer might be able to bend results in their favor.

It seems we're just moving into choosing on our own. So I will sue Westvus Fanus, to ensure that both of our consuls are properly investigated. I am willing to change my suit if someone has a better idea.

Autumnus Leavus Sues Westvus Fanus

Passacaglia 04-09-2007 09:44 AM

Am I missing something -- how is it determined who wins lawsuits?

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:45 AM

so far:

KAYUS WHITUS SUES ALANUS TEEUS
ALANUS TEEUS SUES HOOPUS GUYUS
HOOPUS GUYUS SUES AUTUMNUS LEAVUS
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus Sues Ironsus Headus
DADDYus TORGOus SUES WESTVUS FANus
Autumnus Leavus Sues Westvus Fanus

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:45 AM

I welcome anyone to bring suit against me, as I have nothing to hide and would welcome a minor

Autumn 04-09-2007 09:46 AM

Ah, I was confused by DAddyus Torgus' use of these strange Anglo-Saxon names. I see he already sued Westvus FAnus. While we could double up, I would rather cover all citizens of power first.

I will change my suit.

AUTUMNUS LEAVUS SUES SALDANUS LATHUMUS

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1437241)
Am I missing something -- how is it determined who wins lawsuits?


You are not missing something.

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 1437245)
Ah, I was confused by DAddyus Torgus' use of these strange Anglo-Saxon names. I see he already sued Westvus FAnus. While we could double up, I would rather cover all citizens of power first.

I will change my suit.

AUTUMNUS LEAVUS SUES SALDANUS LATHUMUS


Your other suit will still go forward unless you withdraw it.

Autumn 04-09-2007 09:47 AM

I believe that we are in the dark as to how a suit is won or lost. My questions to those who run the judicial system have come back unanswered.

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1437243)
I welcome anyone to bring suit against me, as I have nothing to hide and would welcome a minor


Premature postulation! That should have said:

I welcome anyone to bring suit against me, as I have nothing to hide and would welcome a minor check mark in my favor (when the suit is decided and inevitably indicates I am not a traitor)*.


I have no idea if that's really how it works or if it might just come back as inconclusive, but since I KNOW I'm not a traitor, I am confident that a lawsuit can only help my stature in this regard.

Poli 04-09-2007 09:49 AM

Ardentus Enthusiastus sues Swaggus Swaggus for the title of best lawyer in Rome.

Autumn 04-09-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1437247)
Your other suit will still go forward unless you withdraw it.


I suppose I willl attempt bringing both of these citizens into the court then. Until we find out there is some backlash to submitting several suits, we might as well cover the territory.

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1437247)
Your other suit will still go forward unless you withdraw it.


We can sue multiple people?

Poli 04-09-2007 09:50 AM

I thought kwhit was going for the underage for a second. :)

Barkeep49 04-09-2007 09:50 AM

KWhit welcoming a minor, as the father of your house, is something you could do. I know for one I wouldn't judge you (much) for it.

Abe Sargent 04-09-2007 09:51 AM

I love you all.


Which is, to say, that I;m reading and thinking, but I have nothing major to contribute, so I am staying silent, but I am here and whatnot.

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1437252)
We can sue multiple people?


You can sue as many people as you like. There are practical limits on how many suits the courts can handle each day, though.

Barkeep49 04-09-2007 09:52 AM

While I appreciate the checking of the Consuls, the tribune of the people is a lifetime appointment and as such I guess I feel the need to sue Saldanus.

Barkeepus Valarius Fortynineus hereby issues a complaint against Saldanus Lathumus on behalf of the people of Rome.

Abe Sargent 04-09-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1437229)
blah. remembering my roman name is going to kill my posting frequency. so instead of that

DADDYTORGO SUES WVUFAN

I'm open to whoever suing me. I don't have any great wealth and I'm not a traitor, so I have nothing to lose.


I'll also do the obligatory suing. I'll take this action DT. Noone has sued him yet, it apepars.


Anxietus Abeus sues whatever DT's name is
. :)

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1437254)
KWhit welcoming a minor, as the father of your house, is something you could do. I know for one I wouldn't judge you (much) for it.


Heh. I have no idea what happened there. I was typing along as fast as I could and all of a sudden half-way through my sentence, the thing gets posted!

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:56 AM

I feel that it is my duty as a loyal Roman to continue this. All in the name of the security of Rome, of course.

KAYUS WHITUS SUES WESTVUS FANUS

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:57 AM

KAYUS WHITUS SUES SALDANUS LATHUMUS

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:58 AM

KAYUS WHITUS SUES SWAGGUS SWAGGUS

st.cronin 04-09-2007 09:58 AM

If somebody wants to continue to compile these, I'd appreciate it:

KAYUS WHITUS SUES ALANUS TEEUS
ALANUS TEEUS SUES HOOPUS GUYUS
HOOPUS GUYUS SUES AUTUMNUS LEAVUS
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus Sues Ironsus Headus
DADDYus TORGOus SUES WESTVUS FANus
Autumnus Leavus Sues Westvus Fanus
AUTUMNUS LEAVUS SUES SALDANUS LATHUMUS
Ardentus Enthusiastus sues Swaggus Swaggus
Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus sues Saldanus Lathamus
ANXIETUS ABEUS SUES DADDYUS TORGOUS
KAYUS WHITUS SUES WESTVUS FANUS
KAYUS WHITUS SUES SALDANUS LATHUMUS
KAYUS WHITUS SUES SWAGGUS SWAGGUS

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:58 AM

KAYUS WHITUS SUES ARDENTUS ENTHUSIASTUS

Coffee Warlord 04-09-2007 09:59 AM

Holy lord.

KWhit 04-09-2007 09:59 AM

I am through submitting lawsuits. I wanted to have one on each of the most powerful men in Rome.

KWhit 04-09-2007 10:00 AM

I hope that doing that might get me some valuable information, but who knows?

Poli 04-09-2007 10:02 AM

Kayus Whitus is a man on a mission. Do you need a good lawyer?

Swaggs 04-09-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1437224)
Can I sue for the title of best lawyer?


Bring it on! :)

Grammaticus 04-09-2007 10:05 AM

I like the idea of running with law suits, especially at the low end of the money food chain. I will point out, once wealthy Senators start losing money or any of us start losing law suits, it is gonna piss somebody off and then things will start getting heated.

Alan T 04-09-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1437270)
I hope that doing that might get me some valuable information, but who knows?


I've thought about putting out alot of lawsuits to try to get more information as well. The reasons I held off on it was:

1) Wanted to see who would sue whom and with what reasoning.
2) Wanted to see who wasn't going to sue anyone even when there were people (or perhaps powerful people even) who didn't have any lawsuits on them.
3) Not sure what the negative consequences of a failed lawsuit are
4) Not sure how many lawsuits the court can handle in a day just yet.

Coffee Warlord 04-09-2007 10:07 AM

Hmm. A thought hath occured to me. Can we have several people buy the other services today, in the hopes that whatever info they receive post-purchase can shed some light on just what the hell some of those do?

Poli 04-09-2007 10:11 AM

I have no qualm with that.

Alan T 04-09-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1437279)
Hmm. A thought hath occured to me. Can we have several people buy the other services today, in the hopes that whatever info they receive post-purchase can shed some light on just what the hell some of those do?


I had tried to get some conversation started on those services earlier, but no one else joined in. My guess is people are holding their cards close to their vest and are planning on getting some of those services, thus don't want to talk about them too much.

Coffee Warlord 04-09-2007 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1437284)
I had tried to get some conversation started on those services earlier, but no one else joined in. My guess is people are holding their cards close to their vest and are planning on getting some of those services, thus don't want to talk about them too much.


Which I think is a bad, bad idea. Once we get further along and learn who is important, and who is, well, not, we *need* a good working knowledge of the tools we have to protect them and/or snuff out the traitors. Since none of us can really say for sure what those things do (some of them are pretty obvious sounding, but others are not), I think the early days are our best opportunity to get that info. It's not like any of us can justify saying "But I NEED the Horse Seller today!" this early.

path12 04-09-2007 10:20 AM

I think I'm a little late on the suing bandwagon, the main people have been covered and I don't want to clog the system until we get a better handle on how many cases can actually go through. I have no problem with trying out one of the services though.

Alan T 04-09-2007 10:31 AM

Well as for the jobs, I still have curiosity to what some of them do..

Like I said previously I can take a guess what the legionarres do.. I assume some kind of bodyguard role. If so though, what does the former warlord do? Is perhaps he the bodyguard, and the legionarres are some lesser form of bodyguard? Maybe not necessarily 100% bodyguard? Could perhaps there be some purchasable assassin type character that you could hire, and the warlord is that?

What would the sex slaves do if you hire them? I mean, I like women as much as the next guy but I am uncertain what they could do to help us further the cause of the republic? Perhaps some form of limited witness role?

I also wonder what the horse dealers or the priest would do for us.. In the case of the horse dealers, you would want a horse to either improve your movement speed, or to move heavier baggage? I don't have any ideas of how either of those would help anyone here in the Senate at all. Also not sure how one's religious convictions would play a part on if someone was loyal to the republic or treasonous so not sure where the Priest fits in.


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