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molson 04-03-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zē+ (Post 1699052)
I consider myself an avid baseball follower, but I haven't seen this before, and am unclear on the rules. In tonight's Pirates/Braves game, an Atlanta pitcher started the inning pitching, then moved to left field for a batter, then came back to the mound and pitched again. Was this permitted because he didn't technically leave the game? And if so, why isn't this technique utilized more often (the defensive shortcomings can't be THAT great, especially for just one batter). Any of you grognards have any insight?


Ya, there's no special rules about being a pitcher when it comes to substitutions, they're just like everyone else. Once they leave, they're gone. But managers can move guys who are in the game around at will, with no limitations.

This technique definitely happened a lot more in the 80s - these days, with deeper, more specialized bullpens, it makes more sense to just pull the guy. And the defense shortcomings CAN be pretty great, depending on the skill of the batter, fielding skills of the pitcher. If you put Todd Jones out in right field, a good hitter can just send a routine fly ball out there and it'd be an adventure.

DaddyTorgo 04-03-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1699056)
Ya, there's no special rules about being a pitcher when it comes to substitutions, they're just like everyone else. Once they leave, they're gone. But managers can move guys who are in the game around at will, with no limitations.

This technique definitely happened a lot more in the 80s - these days, with deeper, more specialized bullpens, it makes more sense to just pull the guy. And the defense shortcomings CAN be pretty great, depending on the skill of the batter, fielding skills of the pitcher. If you put Todd Jones out in right field, a good hitter can just send a routine fly ball out there and it'd be an adventure.


make your pitchers take fly balls once a week. Shit...they all did it in little league i'd be willing to bet

Lathum 04-03-2008 11:14 PM

I would think it could be an injury concern, I wouldn't want my pitcher running into the wall or pulling a hamy

sterlingice 04-03-2008 11:24 PM

*dances a jig about the Royals* :D

SI

Crapshoot 04-04-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1699077)
*dances a jig about the Royals* :D

SI


Hey, I recall discussing with you that I think Greinke's going to be great this year. Control like he has is simply unnatural, and the fact that he has the stuff to go with it...

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1699056)
Ya, there's no special rules about being a pitcher when it comes to substitutions, they're just like everyone else. Once they leave, they're gone. But managers can move guys who are in the game around at will, with no limitations.

This technique definitely happened a lot more in the 80s - these days, with deeper, more specialized bullpens, it makes more sense to just pull the guy. And the defense shortcomings CAN be pretty great, depending on the skill of the batter, fielding skills of the pitcher. If you put Todd Jones out in right field, a good hitter can just send a routine fly ball out there and it'd be an adventure.


I was watching the Pirates feed of the game at the time, and a good question was posed - actually, the question came off-camera from Kent Tekulve - was it proper for the pitcher to be permitted additional warm-up tosses after he came back to the mound? It wasn't the beginning of the inning, it wasn't his first time in the game, and there was no injury. Not sure he should have been. If the Braves are going to try this more than once, someone ought to answer the question.

ISiddiqui 04-04-2008 02:05 PM

:D

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3328114

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Thursday, April 3, 2008
Hawk attacks 'A-Rod' on school tour of Fenway, draws blood

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Associated Press

BOSTON -- A 13-year-old girl touring Fenway Park on a school trip was attacked by a resident red-tailed hawk that drew blood from her scalp Thursday.

She wasn't seriously hurt, but some observers saw an omen for a certain New York Yankees slugger in the attack at the home of the Boston Red Sox. The girl's name is Alexa Rodriguez.

Vince Jennetta, a teacher who chaperoned her class trip from Memorial Boulevard Middle School in Bristol, Conn., told The Boston Globe that Alexa is "a little shaken, but OK."

The hawk was perched on a railing in the upper deck behind home plate while the group toured the stadium. The hawk flew at the girl and swooped with its talons extended, scratching her scalp.

A single egg lay in the hawk's nearby nest in an overhang near the stadium's press booth.

The nest and egg were removed at the direction of state wildlife officials.

LOL

Even though I do like A-Rod and think of the Red Sox as Yankees Lite, this story amused the Hell out of me.

MikeVic 04-04-2008 02:06 PM

She took it better than ARod would.

Cringer 04-04-2008 02:21 PM

JR Towles, the 'rookie' catcher for the Astros gets a 2 run homer to give them the lead over the hated Cubs. WooHoo. CF Bourn then gets all three outs in the bottom of the inning, with one a nice diving catch.

Those two are becoming two of my favorite players very quickly. I am loving the Astros more then ever with those two guys and Pence giving some new blood to the team. Berkman, Tejada, and Lee are good guys too. ;)

Just need some pitchers beside Oswalt to like now, hopefully someone steps up.

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 03:01 PM

Since when do the Astros and Cubs have some big rivalry? Or do you just hate the Cubs?

Cringer 04-04-2008 03:22 PM

I hate the Cubs, and pretty much the whole city of Chicago and anything to do with it. :D

Buccaneer 04-04-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1699504)
I hate the Cubs, and pretty much the whole city of Chicago and anything to do with it. :D


+1, not the whole city and while there are good people there, I despise Cubs fans. :D

watravaler 04-04-2008 06:29 PM

I consider any divisional opponent a rival, and that bastard Pyrzisnki(sic) is beyond hot...

Too bad for the kittens...that pitching staff is going to sink them...

samifan24 04-04-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot (Post 1699418)
Hey, I recall discussing with you that I think Greinke's going to be great this year. Control like he has is simply unnatural, and the fact that he has the stuff to go with it...


Yeah, Greinke has incredible stuff and I hope he's finally turned the corner. His numbers since the All-Star break last year and very strong. I've got him on my fantasy team and I suggest some of you guys do the same. I hope this is finally his breakout year!

Lathum 04-04-2008 07:01 PM

Gonna have to wait another day to see my boy John Maine pitch

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 1699582)
that bastard Pyrzisnki(sic) is beyond hot...


Huh?

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 07:07 PM

Ian Kennedy getting hit hard...but the ump was absolutely screwing him on some pitches. Not that I'm complaining!

Buccaneer 04-04-2008 07:11 PM

K, remind me again. Are you pro-Rays or anti-Yankees (or both)?

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 07:14 PM

Definitely anti-Yanks. I think I'm going to enjoy watching the Rays - good young team. But even so, Kennedy was on the ropes and the ump absolutely hung him on a couple of pitches. He had a 2-1 pitch right down the middle called a ball, and with the bases loaded, he grooved the next pitch and the dude hit a bases-clearing double.

MikeVic 04-04-2008 07:27 PM

Decent pitcher's duel in Toronto right now.

Calis 04-04-2008 07:28 PM

Good start for the Royals here, lets keep this sole undefeated team in baseball going another day.

MikeVic 04-04-2008 07:30 PM

Frick nice catch by Rolen's replacement!

saldana 04-04-2008 08:51 PM

bwahahahahahahahahaha...yankees bullpen.....bwahahahahahahahaha.....latroy hawkins blows....bwahahahahahahahahaha.

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 08:51 PM

As a Yankee Hater, I know I'm going to have far more lows than highs this year. But tonight's one I'm glad to be watching. 6 runs off of Kennedy, then Sonnanstine immediately gave back 4, but he settled down and the Rays put up 7 (and counting) in the 8th. Haha!

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1699645)
bwahahahahahahahahaha...yankees bullpen.....bwahahahahahahahaha.....latroy hawkins blows....bwahahahahahahahahaha.


*virtual high five*

saldana 04-04-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1699599)
Ian Kennedy getting hit hard...but the ump was absolutely screwing him on some pitches. Not that I'm complaining!


the umps in this game have been horrible the entire game....the guy behind the plate has no idea what the strike zone is, and the upton "tag out" at first was an utterly horrendous call.

saldana 04-04-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1699648)
*virtual high five*


*virtural buys round of beers for other anti-yankees*

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 08:57 PM

Yeah, Carlos Pena got screwed on a few calls, too. At one point, the Yankees announcers just gave up trying to pretend the calls were strikes and admitted they weren't.

henry296 04-04-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1699430)
I was watching the Pirates feed of the game at the time, and a good question was posed - actually, the question came off-camera from Kent Tekulve - was it proper for the pitcher to be permitted additional warm-up tosses after he came back to the mound? It wasn't the beginning of the inning, it wasn't his first time in the game, and there was no injury. Not sure he should have been. If the Braves are going to try this more than once, someone ought to answer the question.


Interesting that Tekulve asked that question; since he was involved in such a situation during his career with the Pirates.

Here's a link to other examples: http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/175

saldana 04-04-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1699594)
Gonna have to wait another day to see my boy John Maine pitch


which blows...its one less game i will get for free...i may end up buying extra innings...i realized during the week that i am gonna be home every monday through thursday night all season long...do you have 200 bucks i can borrow?

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 09:08 PM

Yeah, the comment from one of the announcers was, "He should know."

Lathum 04-04-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1699658)
which blows...its one less game i will get for free...i may end up buying extra innings...i realized during the week that i am gonna be home every monday through thursday night all season long...do you have 200 bucks i can borrow?


no but I will be getting the internet package wink wink

also always nice to see the yanks lose, point at your wife and laugh for me

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 09:13 PM

Married to a Yankees fan? God Lord, man! Have you no standards?!

Lathum 04-04-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1699666)
Married to a Yankees fan? God Lord, man! Have you no standards?!


with the exception of that obvious charecture flaw I love her like a sister

saldana 04-04-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1699664)
no but I will be getting the internet package wink wink

also always nice to see the yanks lose, point at your wife and laugh for me


she gave you the finger

saldana 04-04-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1699666)
Married to a Yankees fan? God Lord, man! Have you no standards?!


its tough...her dad and her brother are fanatics too...we didnt speak at all for 2 weeks in october 2000.

Lathum 04-04-2008 09:17 PM

I take back my previous comment

saldana 04-04-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1699668)
with the exception of that obvious charecture flaw I love her like a sister


glad you arent from west virginia.

Ksyrup 04-04-2008 09:19 PM

Ha! I met my wife in South Florida. Lucky for her, she was an FSU fan and not a Hurricane fan. I probably wouldn't have agreed to the first date if she rooted for Miami.

sterlingice 04-04-2008 09:57 PM

Royals bats not great tonight and Bale gives up 4 in 6 and change, so there are no longer any unbeaten teams with the Royals losing 4-3.

SI

sterlingice 04-04-2008 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot (Post 1699418)
Hey, I recall discussing with you that I think Greinke's going to be great this year. Control like he has is simply unnatural, and the fact that he has the stuff to go with it...


Of course Greinke has the ability. Need to see how his head is, tho. He could go anywhere from 7-15 with a 5.50 to 18-5, 2.50 and neither would surprise me. Nor would "walks off the mound in the middle of a game and decides he wants to sell stadium hot dogs for a living".

SI

Neuqua 04-04-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1699504)
I hate the Cubs, and pretty much the whole city of Chicago and anything to do with it. :D


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Cringer 04-04-2008 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua (Post 1699690)
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


Well if you are going to get all sensative (and give me more fuel for the fire), then I will ease off a little and say I am sure there are a couple decent people there.

lordscarlet 04-04-2008 10:32 PM

Ugh. The Nats left THIRTEEN on base.

Chief Rum 04-05-2008 12:23 AM

We're not going to win this game, but it's fun to see my team try to come back from 11-0 in the ninth. 11-6 now (2 outs).

MrBug708 04-05-2008 12:26 AM

So is Billingsley now a MR pitcher?

The Dodgers new pitcher pitched pretty damn well tonight. 1 run, 3 hits over 7 innings?

Chief Rum 04-05-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 1699732)
So is Billingsley now a MR pitcher?

The Dodgers new pitcher pitched pretty damn well tonight. 1 run, 3 hits over 7 innings?


He better not be. I didn't draft him to be a MR.

Chief Rum 04-05-2008 12:28 AM

Hunter got a single, Willits to third. GA flies out to deep, deep RF. Little more and it would have been 11-9. Fun while it lasted.

Atocep 04-05-2008 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 1699732)
So is Billingsley now a MR pitcher?

The Dodgers new pitcher pitched pretty damn well tonight. 1 run, 3 hits over 7 innings?


I think Torre was just trying to get him work after he was scratched yesterday. As of right now he's still scheduled to start Tuesday.

Atocep 04-05-2008 02:32 PM

Corey Patterson has a walk, a stolen base, and a homer today. Dusty now has him penciled into the leadoff spot until at least the all star break.

Lathum 04-05-2008 03:14 PM

Maine getting squeezed early

saldana 04-05-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1699915)
Maine getting squeezed early


how about it....i couldnt believe some of those calls...that said, he seems to be having a hard time getting anything but the fast ball over the plate.


and oh yeah....ballgame over, rays win, thhhhhhhhhhhhhhe rays win!

Lathum 04-05-2008 03:48 PM

can they please STFU about Reyes handshakes

saldana 04-05-2008 03:51 PM

damn him for having a personality

saldana 04-05-2008 03:53 PM

maine just doesnt seem to have it today...he cant throw any breaking pitches, so the braves are just sitting dead red and waiting for the fastballs

Lathum 04-05-2008 03:55 PM

Maine looks like he has really good stuff. Nice movement on his fastball and a nasty changeup. I think this is the year he becomes a top line starter and wins 18-20 games.

Lathum 04-05-2008 04:02 PM

Maine is reguarly hitting 95 on the gun, I don't understand why he isn't using his changeup more for an outpitch.

Lathum 04-05-2008 04:07 PM

Inge is making the most of his playing time

Lathum 04-05-2008 04:37 PM

are you fucking kidding me they called that a catch????

what a fuck job, fucking joke

Lathum 04-05-2008 04:39 PM

at least they got it correct but it still costs us a potential run

Izulde 04-05-2008 04:41 PM

Love that 4 run 6th inning. :)

Willis was absolutely pissed when that 3rd run crossed the plate.

Lathum 04-05-2008 04:47 PM

that call still cost the Mets a run, game should be tied

Izulde 04-05-2008 04:54 PM

Oh, I'm watching the White Sox game. :)

Lathum 04-05-2008 05:08 PM

That Peavy guy is pretty good

Izulde 04-05-2008 05:10 PM

HR by Dye for the insurance run!

5-3 White Sox going into bottom of 8th. :)

Izulde 04-05-2008 05:27 PM

Here we go... BOBBY JENKS TIME! :D :)

Buccaneer 04-05-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1699948)
That Peavy guy is pretty good


:)

Izulde 04-05-2008 05:36 PM

White Sox win 5-3!

Yay! We're above .500! :)

sterlingice 04-05-2008 06:34 PM

Gil Meche a bit shaky today. He's getting back to nibbling, it looks like and that needs to turn around.

SI

MikeVic 04-05-2008 06:41 PM

First time through, and at least the Jays' starting pitching has looked good.

Cringer 04-05-2008 10:40 PM

Houston blew it today. Glad our ace pitcher has two bad starts and likes to give up RBI hits to the opposing pitch in each game. Yay for Oswalt.

Arles 04-05-2008 11:44 PM

Justin Upton, Conner Jackson and Chris Young did some serious damage against the Rockies today. If those three can get it together this year, the DBacks could be a very good team.

sterlingice 04-06-2008 02:54 PM

Twins fans need to give the Royals pitching staff a fruit basket or something for getting Morneau going.

SI

Lathum 04-06-2008 03:03 PM

this home plate ump has been horrible in the Mets -Braves game

Karlifornia 04-06-2008 03:13 PM

********ATTENTION EVERYONE...I HAVE BREAKING NEWS*******


Barry Zito sucks.

sterlingice 04-06-2008 03:15 PM

Oof... I mean, I figured maybe the Giants would get, at worst, a league average pitcher for their insane investment. But this is horrible.

SI

Buccaneer 04-06-2008 03:24 PM

I was talking to my SF brother and he said that the season would be considered a success if they don't lose 100.

sterlingice 04-06-2008 03:33 PM

Ah, so that's like the Royals standards. Tho this year, hopes are a bit higher.

SI

JS19 04-06-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1700266)
this home plate ump has been horrible in the Mets -Braves game


Yea, that was pretty bad. Seemed like the Braves were getting squeezed much more than the Mets, too bad they couldn't take advantage. Mets offense looked like they were just going through the motions up there.

Lathum 04-06-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19 (Post 1700284)
Yea, that was pretty bad. Seemed like the Braves were getting squeezed much more than the Mets, too bad they couldn't take advantage. Mets offense looked like they were just going through the motions up there.


agree 100%. I really hope these guys don't think they can take off every fifth day because Santana is pitching, he didn't deserve that effort they gave today

sterlingice 04-06-2008 03:57 PM

Royals salvage game 3 with the Twins to come home 4-2 after a sweep of the Tigers and then 1-2 vs the Twins. Great defense and good pitching keys the 3-1 win today.

Now it's time for Opening Day vs the Yankees Tuesday on Greater Kansas City Day. I'll be at the game Wednesday night if anyone else is going to be there :)

SI

Neuqua 04-06-2008 04:00 PM

Ping Astros Fans:

:)

Lathum 04-06-2008 04:03 PM

I know its early but Cubs fans have to be pleased with Kerry Woods start

terpkristin 04-06-2008 04:09 PM

Alas, what a weekened to forget for the Red Sox. :(

I don't care if he's not what he used to be, you don't load the bases when Frank Thomas is on-deck...

/tk

tucker rocky 04-06-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1700271)
********ATTENTION EVERYONE...I HAVE BREAKING NEWS*******


Barry Zito sucks.


Also, Brett Myers. 2 starts unimpressed.
I'll give him some leeway though, last year a closer, this year back in the rotation.

Mizzou B-ball fan 04-07-2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1700289)
Royals salvage game 3 with the Twins to come home 4-2 after a sweep of the Tigers and then 1-2 vs the Twins. Great defense and good pitching keys the 3-1 win today.

Now it's time for Opening Day vs the Yankees Tuesday on Greater Kansas City Day. I'll be at the game Wednesday night if anyone else is going to be there :)

SI


Yep, great to see the Royals do so well on the opening road trip.

Depending on what happens tonight in the championship game, you may need to adjust your plans accordingly. They may have to cut a hole in the fences to get all the big-headed beaker fans in the stadium. :)

Chief Rum 04-08-2008 12:12 AM

Okay, just start to erect the Torii statue in centerfield right now. :D

Chief Rum 04-08-2008 12:30 AM

BTW, Hunter saved what I think is a pretty impressive streak. We entered the ninth with a chance to extend what is now something like a 160 game winning streak when leading going into the ninth. Obviously, that's a situation that lends itself to victories, but a whole season's worth of wins without a loss? Pretty damn impressive.

K-Rod tried to blow it tonight, but Torii totally saved the Halos.

Mizzou B-ball fan 04-08-2008 07:47 AM

Christ! What is it with the Yankees and rain for home openers? First, they have their own home opener rained out. Now, they come to KC for their home opener and it's expected to pour cats and dogs most of the day.

samifan24 04-08-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1700976)
Okay, just start to erect the Torii statue in centerfield right now. :D


He's a good player and has always played well against the Tribe. I can't take much more of Joe Borowski, though. :(

watravaler 04-08-2008 01:04 PM

So, should we all be rushing to pick up Carlos Quentin in our fantasy leagues? Why did the Diamondbacks cut bait on this guy? His minor league numbers are about as impressive as they come...

MrBug708 04-08-2008 01:19 PM

Thank goodness Andruw Jones will only be a Dodger for one more year after this one

Cringer 04-08-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuqua (Post 1700291)
Ping Astros Fans:

:)


This was meant for me wasn't it mofo? :mad:

Astros tried to blow their home opener against the Cards yesterday just as they did the Chicago series. Wandy Rodriguez had a great game pitching yesterday and then new Houston closer had a brilliant first showing in front of Astros fans by blowing it completely. Thankfully it was homerun Monday for the Astros hitters yesterday and Tejada got one to win in the bottom of the ninth.

This season is going to kill me, I might need to go back on the truck.

Arles 04-08-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 1701297)
So, should we all be rushing to pick up Carlos Quentin in our fantasy leagues? Why did the Diamondbacks cut bait on this guy? His minor league numbers are about as impressive as they come...

Quentin had a hot month, but then struggled with injuries and consistency for over a year. He was going to be part of the Haren deal, but Oakland wanted someone from Chicago instead, so the DBacks sent him to the Sox and used that player in the Haren deal.

I've always liked him, but he had some injury concerns, his FA clock was ticking and he wasn't going to play over Chris Young, Upton or Byrnes - so they dealt him.

Schmidty 04-08-2008 04:40 PM

I love the Tigers, but even as a huge fan, I'm getting a sick, twisted sort of delight watching a team with a $130 payroll getting thumped, and looking confused.

I still think they'll pull out of it.

sterlingice 04-08-2008 08:03 PM

One hell of a set of games yesterday between the Cubs-Pirates and then walkoffs by the Astros and Angels.

SI

sterlingice 04-08-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1701033)
Christ! What is it with the Yankees and rain for home openers? First, they have their own home opener rained out. Now, they come to KC for their home opener and it's expected to pour cats and dogs most of the day.


Fortunately no rain interrupted the game and the Royals won their home opener 5-2. As an aside, the rain put a damper on Greater Kansas City day- I was trying to get a couple of copies of the Star and I couldn't find anyone selling any anywhere.

SI

JonInMiddleGA 04-08-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708 (Post 1701313)
Thank goodness Andruw Jones will only be a Dodger for one more year after this one


Understand now why I shed no tears when he left Atlanta?

For those not following, he's hitting .115, .179 OBP, .154 SLG, with 8 strikeouts.

Arles 04-08-2008 08:38 PM

Pretty smart extension by the DBacks on Chris Young (5yrs - $28 mil):

"Young will get a $1 million signing bonus plus $1.75 million in 2009, $3.25 million in 2010, $5 million in 2011, $7 million in 2012 and $8.5 million in 2013. There is an $11 million option and $1.5 million buyout for 2014. Young became the first major league rookie ever to have at least 30 home runs and 25 stolen bases last season, with 32 homers and 27 steals."

I think he's going to be a 30-30 stud and getting him for the next 5-6 seasons after this for an average of under $6 mil is a great move for the DBacks.

sterlingice 04-08-2008 08:44 PM

How many years of free agency did they buy out? Just 1 and a bunch of arby years?

SI


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