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ntndeacon 11-06-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1296346)
Ntndeacon,

Do you have in game information on Blade (Valen Gutters)?


No I don't Gramm.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 03:35 PM

As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?

Alan T 11-06-2006 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296577)
As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?


Well instead of waiting for others to narrow it down for you, who would you narrow it down to and why? Since you haven't voted yet, who are you looking to vote for?

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1296482)
When we started looking at it on day 4 and using it as motivation to start killing people.


It also fell out when the GM's caught on that people were using their role PM to figure out who everyone else was too. simply by putting the phrase that refered to them as normal or regular when they checked in and other's picked up on it. GM's began to make mulitiple unique PMs to all regular and normal villagers so no one could compare.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:38 PM

I think Neuqua is having a family emergency...I'll double check the outside board, but I recall a post of his from there.

BRB

Alan T 11-06-2006 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296581)
I think Neuqua is having a family emergency...I'll double check the outside board, but I recall a post of his from there.

BRB


That would be good to know, since he is where I was leaning today so far.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:39 PM

here's the thread

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=54031

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:40 PM

he seems to be logged in, but that doesn't mean he's actually at a computer now though as I'm usually always logged in and "viewing" throughout the day, but it's usually just an open window at my computer here at work.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:42 PM

just posted a "Ping" to the three that havent' checked in yet in the GD board

ntndeacon 11-06-2006 03:43 PM

As I said earlier I have not pre game info on Blade. (or anyone else ) I was role playing as was speculated . I am a poor Tomato Farmer. I was using the "fact" that Blade was not above going into someone's house without permission as his ramblings seemed to say.

It could have been those thieving Tookses too. :D

spleen1015 11-06-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296577)
Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?


Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296579)
Well instead of waiting for others to narrow it down for you, who would you narrow it down to and why? Since you haven't voted yet, who are you looking to vote for?


I've already mentioned that I'm leaning towards Blade, but since no one has voted for him I don't want to muddy the waters with another candidate.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 03:48 PM

People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game

spleen1015 11-06-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


You said it.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296601)
Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.


Will it be any easier on day 2 when we still need 13 votes to lynch someone?

spleen1015 11-06-2006 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296608)
Will it be any easier on day 2 when we still need 13 votes to lynch someone?


Not really. We do have voting records and night actions to go by at that point though.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:52 PM

VOTE Scoobz0202

he's one of three people not to check in and of the three he's the one I know the least about.
subject to change if he checks in and either of the other two don't

Blade6119 11-06-2006 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296610)
Not really. We do have voting records and night actions to go by at that point though.


Voting records wont mean as much without a lynch

BrianD 11-06-2006 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.

Fouts 11-06-2006 03:53 PM

Pretty quiet today. I'm going to put my vote on somebody who hasn't checked in, and try to get them talking.

vote KWhit

Blade6119 11-06-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296616)
For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.


Oh, i intend to continue it for the duration of my life in this game. I have a role that strongly ecourages role-playing, and i intend to follow it through to the end of my stay in Bree.

i just wanted to address all the people seeminly upset by it

spleen1015 11-06-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296615)
Voting records wont mean as much without a lynch


Doh! Nicely done, spleen.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296616)
For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.


I enjoied it too Blade so keep it up. remindes me of my time like in the Lost WW game as Sawyer.

spleen1015 11-06-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296616)
For what it is worth, I thought it was pretty fun.


I enjoyed it, too.

Lathum 11-06-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)

Blade6119 11-06-2006 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296626)
you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)


I accept that fact, and take pleasure in blocking your win then killing you in the small game...so for now, i hold bragging rights :)

SnDvls 11-06-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296626)
you annoy me but the role playing has nothing to do with it :)


ZING!

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296601)
I'd much rather save a hobbit.


You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement. The hobbits are our guests. I like the little buggars, but if comes down to losing a few hobbits or losing Bree to the forces of darkness, I'm side with Bree every time.

Grammaticus 11-06-2006 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296577)
As I see it, the voting stands at:

KWhit - 1 (by Tyrith)
ntndeacon - 1 (by Swaggs)
spleen1015 - 2 (by Chief Rum, BrianD)
Swaggs - 1 (by ntndeacon)
Neuqua - 1 (by spleen)
SnDvls - 1 (by st.cronin)
DaddyTorgo - 2 (by Grammaticus, Lathum)

We haven't heard from KWhit, Scoobz0202, or Neuqua.

Do we want to start narrowing down our choices now, or should we sit around like a bunch of pansies and wait for the Forces of Darkness to pick us off one by one?


I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 04:02 PM

VOTE KWhit

For the same reasons Fouts mentioned.

Jonathan Ezarik 11-06-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1296640)
I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.


But he did check in, I believe.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 04:06 PM

He did post #150

Blade6119 11-06-2006 04:06 PM

I know saldana was waiting for this, so before i get back into character

VOTE ALAN T

Lathum 11-06-2006 04:09 PM

I really think we need to swing the votes towards 2-3 candidates so we can start establishing some voting patternes that will help us down the road. If we do nothing today then we are in the same boat tomorrow.

The way we are headed 3-4 villegars will be killed before any lynchings happen unless there are night actions unknown to me and that is not acceptable.

Grammaticus 11-06-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 1296601)
Needing 13 votes to lynch someone makes it unlikely that there will be a lynch on Day 1. It really doesn't make any sense to have one in a game this large. I'd much rather save a hobbit.


Passing on a lynch always hurts the villagers. The only exception I can think of is an end game scenario. Here is a link to the Wiki site. Read the section about No Lynch. They are calling the game mafia, which is just another form of werewolf. Here it is quoted:

Quote:

"No lynch" or "No kill" - sometimes the Innocents are allowed to vote not to kill anyone on a particular daytime cycle. In general, although Villagers will often feel they do not have enough information to kill someone, this is a bad choice because the Villagers are more likely to vote off a Mafia member than the Mafia are to kill a Mafia member. Furthermore, because a player's role is generally revealed when that player is lynched, it provides the Villagers with reliable and irrefutable information. However, when there are an even number of Villagers, this can be a good choice. For example, when there are four Villagers remaining (including one Mafia), voting not to kill someone will result in a 1/3 chance to kill the Mafia the next day as opposed to a 1/4 chance. Note than voting incorrectly in either situation will end the game (resulting in a 1 Mafia/1 Innocent standoff, which is almost always resolved by the Narrator in favor of the Mafia).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(game

Alan T 11-06-2006 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296634)
You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement. The hobbits are our guests. I like the little buggars, but if comes down to losing a few hobbits or losing Bree to the forces of darkness, I'm side with Bree every time.


That is not entirely true. While men originally built the city, Hobbits have lived here for about 1500 years. Like it or not, Hobbits are as much a part of Bree as the men are.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296658)
I really think we need to swing the votes towards 2-3 candidates so we can start establishing some voting patternes that will help us down the road. If we do nothing today then we are in the same boat tomorrow.

The way we are headed 3-4 villegars will be killed before any lynchings happen unless there are night actions unknown to me and that is not acceptable.



we kinda are that way now w/ Spleen, Daddy Torgo & Kwhit all having 2 or more votes.
If Kwhit doesn't check in I'm sure more will move in his direction as per the recent flow and trend in WW games

Schmidty 11-06-2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296605)
People need to lighten up...people like LSG and Schmidty said they are really annoyed by my role-playing..lighten up folks, its a game


I don't need to lighten up when it comes to the game. You can claim that something is "only role-playing", but if you do something like that, it's automatically going to get scrutinized. You know that.

And yeah, it was annoying. I wasn't telling you to stop. I was just being honest.

Alan T 11-06-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296651)
I know saldana was waiting for this, so before i get back into character

VOTE ALAN T


I don't understand the reference to Saldana nor any reason for voting for me :)

Lathum 11-06-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296663)
we kinda are that way now w/ Spleen, Daddy Torgo & Kwhit all having 2 or more votes.
If Kwhit doesn't check in I'm sure more will move in his direction as per the recent flow and trend in WW games


I think your wrong. If you had 2 votes would you or your teammates be worried? We need to string together enough votes for people to get nervous and make some moves they may not usually make.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296687)
I think your wrong. If you had 2 votes would you or your teammates be worried? We need to string together enough votes for people to get nervous and make some moves they may not usually make.


ok I'm confused now :confused:
you said we need to get 2-3 canidates. I said it looks like we have about 2-3 now in the people w/ 2 votes each.

then you come back w/ the above?:confused:

I don't think anyone right now is worried as it takes 13 votes to lynch today. and no one is near that number. as it is right now we only have 13 voters. we'd all have to come back and vote the same way right now.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 04:42 PM

Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?

Mr. Wednesday 11-06-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik (Post 1296634)
You seem to forget that Bree is a human settlement.

Originally, yes, but we've been living in harmony with the little folk for long enough that I think "guests" is not really a fair term for them.

KWhit 11-06-2006 04:49 PM

Just now checking in. Didn't realize we were starting today (I thought the game started Wednesday for some reason).

Anyhoo.... I am Celestia Avenspring - Farmer.

So um... Get your votes OFF ME!!!


:)

Alan T 11-06-2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296704)
Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?


Well I am not Anxiety, but he described the vote decision to be majority decided (not plurality). He simplified it by saying 50% +1, but if it is a majority like he said in the rules, it would be 13 votes. (without having to worry about rounding)

Lathum 11-06-2006 04:51 PM

no one is near that number because people keep scattering their votes. IMO no lynch is a huge advantage for the black riders and other bad guys

KWhit 11-06-2006 04:52 PM

Well, there's almost nothing to go on so far. The absolute only thing interesting so far is Blade's odd behavior.

Alan T 11-06-2006 04:53 PM

Well, was waiting to see who isn't checked in or who wasn't going to check in. Only ones left is Neuqua and Scoobz0202. I don't like voting for someone in their first game before they even have a chance to play, but also don't like voting for someone who is having RL issues and not being here is no fault of their own.

In the end though I guess I need to make some vote, and it will likely be random unless someone really messes up today and says something they shouldn't. I'll go with neuqua here since I have to pick someone, and it will be a second vote on him.

Vote Neuqua

Abe Sargent 11-06-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296704)
Anxiety- question for you

w/ 25 people now it requires a 50% plus 1 to lynch so today that means

25/2=12.5 + 1= 13.5 so does that mean we need 14 to lynch?

are you rounding up or down on this for future reference?



13 is needed at 5 people. 13 is also needed at 24. 12 would be needed with 23. Etc.

Hope that helps!


-Anxiety

BrianD 11-06-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296719)
no one is near that number because people keep scattering their votes. IMO no lynch is a huge advantage for the black riders and other bad guys


I agree, no lynch is probably a huge advantage to the bad guys. We need to come up with a lynch tonight.

KWhit 11-06-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1296730)
13 is needed at 5 people. 13 is also needed at 24. 12 would be needed with 23. Etc.

Hope that helps!


-Anxiety


Shouldn't that say 13 is needed at 25 people?

Lathum 11-06-2006 05:04 PM

UNVOTE DADDY TORGO
VOTE SPLEEN


trying to get something going here

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296668)
I don't understand the reference to Saldana nor any reason for voting for me :)


Saldana was waiting to see who i was voting for, hence his connections. My reason for voting for you is relatively simple. Part of my role-playing, which schmidty was right i knew, was that it would bring criticism upon me. I looked forward to this, seeing who would jump at the chance to take a free day one kill to eliminate me. None pushed harder then you...maybe you really were concerned, but your playing very much like lathum did in the small game we are finishing now. You know what alignment lathum turned out to be

Thomkal 11-06-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1296640)
I would add Thomkal to the list of those who have been out of site and out of mind.


As I said in first post, I would be gone running errands during the day. And so just for not reading my post. :)

vote Grammaticus

Mr. Wednesday 11-06-2006 05:06 PM

VOTE Neuqua

I have no reason to prefer anybody, so I'd like to keep a run-off going.

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296742)
Saldana was waiting to see who i was voting for, hence his connections. My reason for voting for you is relatively simple. Part of my role-playing, which schmidty was right i knew, was that it would bring criticism upon me. I looked forward to this, seeing who would jump at the chance to take a free day one kill to eliminate me. None pushed harder then you...maybe you really were concerned, but your playing very much like lathum did in the small game we are finishing now. You know what alignment lathum turned out to be


Isn't it a little early to misrepresent what I said in the game? I am pretty sure everyone is able to read that I provided information about the Smeagol character from the books for those who were confused and explained a little bit about who it might be. I had plenty of chance to vote for you, and in fact stated I wouldn't be voting for you and would be voting for someone who didn't check in or checked in late.

Since I didn't push to vote for you, or lie about my intentions for my vote, your comment is patently untrue. Or is it just a little too uncomfortable for you that I know the role that you are acting as right now is definitly not on our side, and that while you aren't evil you aren't going to be helping us either?

Lathum 11-06-2006 05:11 PM

this may be a little OOC but I have a real problem with people voting for neuqua. The point of a run off is to see how people defend themselves. Neq has a serious real life issue and obviously can't defend himself. And even if he is a bad guy he will probably be cut loose at this point so we won't gain any info anyway.

IMO it's bad form to vote him.

Thomkal 11-06-2006 05:12 PM

I am of two minds when it comes to the vote tonight. Since I was the Day 1 wolf victim in the last game I was in, I feel for the people who get eliminated so early. So I wouldn't mind not having a majority today. But I realize voting records are very important, so we should probably get 1 or 2 people close to the magic number for lynch to see what happens.

Mr. Wednesday 11-06-2006 05:12 PM

Fair enough, but if he can't participate, then he needs to be replaced ASAP.

UNVOTE Neuqua

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296747)
Isn't it a little early to misrepresent what I said in the game? I am pretty sure everyone is able to read that I provided information about the Smeagol character from the books for those who were confused and explained a little bit about who it might be. I had plenty of chance to vote for you, and in fact stated I wouldn't be voting for you and would be voting for someone who didn't check in or checked in late.

Since I didn't push to vote for you, or lie about my intentions for my vote, your comment is patently untrue. Or is it just a little too uncomfortable for you that I know the role that you are acting as right now is definitly not on our side, and that while you aren't evil you aren't going to be helping us either?


You dont know as much as you think alan, so be careful how you tread

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1296753)
Fair enough, but if he can't participate, then he needs to be replaced ASAP.

UNVOTE Neuqua


I KNOW Dodgerchick wants to play

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296756)
You dont know as much as you think alan, so be careful how you tread


I don't know much of anything, all I have done is explain the character in the book. Coming out day 1 saying things that aren't true likely will make me suspicious of you the entire game though.

Either you told a lie, or made a mistake. One you can correct, the other you can not :)

Thomkal 11-06-2006 05:14 PM

I couldn't agree more Lathum. The votes for Neuqua that came in after the post revealing his family emergency are in very poor taste. Let him survive the day at least, so if he has to drop out an alternate can come in.

Lathum 11-06-2006 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296756)
You dont know as much as you think alan, so be careful how you tread


oh snap!!

SnDvls 11-06-2006 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1296759)
I couldn't agree more Lathum. The votes for Neuqua that came in after the post revealing his family emergency are in very poor taste. Let him survive the day at least, so if he has to drop out an alternate can come in.


"

Partly why my vote is where it is. new player or not the day is half over for me and no check in sorry, everyone gets a first vote at some point.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296172)
For those who never read the stories, or saw the movies there is a character named Smeagol who suffered from Dissociative identity disorder who had a second personality named Gollum. His disorder came about due to a traumatic experience as a younger hobbit where he killed his relative and best friend over a ring that "called to him".

I've been curious about Blade playing out a Dissociative identity disorder type personality so far this game since Gollum by no means was helpful or friendly in the stories. In fact, he was more of a hinderance than a help for the Fellowship. As is such often with things though, he did in fact play a big part in the final conquering of evil, but it was completely unintentional and driven off of his own greed.

My guess is most likely in a game like this while a Gollum character wouldn't be the main target for the good side to rid themselves of, he is definitly a type of character that we wouldn't want around. So I have been intrigued by Blade playing up such a character.

My initial guess is its either:

1) Blade playing a role to create some votes and keep from getting night killed

or

2) Blade playing an evil role but wanting to come out in a way that doesn't seem an evil role and thus through reverse psychology not get enough votes to be lynched due to appearing to try to get votes to be lynched.

This is the post i was drawing my claims from. In it, you imply im gollum, who was not a friend to the village. You assume i have multiple personalities, which i have not once implied or even hinted at. Then you give two options, while ignoring the true option. Blade got a role that strongly encouraged role-playing...blade is merely playing his role.

So as you lie about what i have said we go round and around

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:19 PM

I'll move my vote off of Neuqua then, but it will be to scoobz instead since he has not checked in. I mainly chose Neuqua since it is who Spleen has his vote on and Spleen seems to be one of the others in the "vote off" right now.

As I said, I didnt like voting for either of them, but since you all think I am tasteless and such, I'll change before the insults fly more. I've been friends with Neuqua for a while, and am praying for his family, I am sure he doesn't care at all right now about what I voted in a game for him. he has bigger things on his mind.

Either way I'll move my vote and still have him and his family in my thoughts.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296762)
"

Partly why my vote is where it is. new player or not the day is half over for me and no check in sorry, everyone gets a first vote at some point.


and actually re-reading his sign up it appears it might be a bullettsponge issue again.

he never really "joined" just expressed interest in joining.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 05:21 PM

dola - might need 2 replacement players

one due to RL issues and one due to never really signing up.

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296768)
This is the post i was drawing my claims from. In it, you imply im gollum, who was not a friend to the village. You assume i have multiple personalities, which i have not once implied or even hinted at. Then you give two options, while ignoring the true option. Blade got a role that strongly encouraged role-playing...blade is merely playing his role.

So as you lie about what i have said we go round and around


So you haven't been roleplaying that you have a Dissociative identity disorder? Since that is what that post implies.

If you have been roleplaying something else entirely then I will chalk it up as my roleplay ability sucks and I shouldn't bother reading any posts in roleplay.

In no way does option 1 in my post of what you might be doing seem like something bad for the village to me and in fact its what you have said you were doing..

You saying I pushed for your lynch is outright false though.

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:22 PM

Dola,

Since talking to yourself and getting in arguements with yourself is definite signs of a Dissociative identity disorder, I think you are BSing now Blade and distancing from your own roleplay from earlier.

I have no problem with the roleplay, I was simply providing analysis of it as best as I can.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296762)
"

Partly why my vote is where it is. new player or not the day is half over for me and no check in sorry, everyone gets a first vote at some point.


want to appoligize to scoobz if in fact he didn't truely know he was signed up for this comment. no offense intended.

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:23 PM

Double Dola,

Unvote Neuqua
Vote Scoobz0202


Since I am tasteless etc etc.

LoneStarGirl 11-06-2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1296664)
I don't need to lighten up when it comes to the game. You can claim that something is "only role-playing", but if you do something like that, it's automatically going to get scrutinized. You know that.

And yeah, it was annoying. I wasn't telling you to stop. I was just being honest.


Agreed.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296774)
So you haven't been roleplaying that you have a Dissociative identity disorder? Since that is what that post implies.

If you have been roleplaying something else entirely then I will chalk it up as my roleplay ability sucks and I shouldn't bother reading any posts in roleplay.

In no way does option 1 in my post of what you might be doing seem like something bad for the village to me and in fact its what you have said you were doing..

You saying I pushed for your lynch is outright false though.


Pushing for my lynch and putting out comments that get others down the road that leads to my lynch are one and the same to me. If i said ALANS A WOLF, but didnt vote you, that wouldnt be pushing for your lynch by your standards.

Its a weak argument, im just saying...you were the one putting out the most ideas that made me look bad...that much is a fact.

Lathum 11-06-2006 05:25 PM

Alan- Please don't read to into what I am saying. It's kind of like the situation last game with Saldana being replaced. I would rather see the person get replaced and have the new player have a say rather then vote to lynch them right away.

BrianD 11-06-2006 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296768)
This is the post i was drawing my claims from. In it, you imply im gollum, who was not a friend to the village. You assume i have multiple personalities, which i have not once implied or even hinted at. Then you give two options, while ignoring the true option. Blade got a role that strongly encouraged role-playing...blade is merely playing his role.

So as you lie about what i have said we go round and around


It seems you have been talking to yourself at the very least, and multiple personalities seemed reasonable as well.

SnDvls 11-06-2006 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296778)
Double Dola,

Unvote Neuqua
Vote Scoobz0202


Since I am tasteless etc etc.



alan - no one said you were tasteless, chill. they said and I agreed it was in poor/bad taste. you can vote how you want it just didn't seem to be the right thing to do in his case. just like you said you don't like voting for a new player in their first game.

everyone needs to take a step back from the keyboard for a moment and take a deep breath...it's only day 1 and we're all getting too worked up.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296785)
It seems you have been talking to yourself at the very least, and multiple personalities seemed reasonable as well.


Brian gets it

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1296783)
Alan- Please don't read to into what I am saying. It's kind of like the situation last game with Saldana being replaced. I would rather see the person get replaced and have the new player have a say rather then vote to lynch them right away.


Last game though saldana said he had to step down..thats the only reason we did that

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296781)
Pushing for my lynch and putting out comments that get others down the road that leads to my lynch are one and the same to me. If i said ALANS A WOLF, but didnt vote you, that wouldnt be pushing for your lynch by your standards.

Its a weak argument, im just saying...you were the one putting out the most ideas that made me look bad...that much is a fact.


I can't help it that the only characters from J.R.R TOlkien's writings that came close to a Dissociative identity disorder were those who were affected by the ring and its alluring power and call. And those people were so drawn to it that they would often do unethical or selfish things in order to either obtain the ring or maintain holding on to it. (See Gollum with Deagol, Boromir with Frodo, Isildur, etc)

I have no problems with you roleplaying a role, but you have to be ready to take the heat that doing so will come with it. In your case the association to those type of people from the stories and how they behaved.

You know me well enough by now to know if I wanted to lynch you, I would be trying to give everyone every reason possible to do so right or wrong.

LoneStarGirl 11-06-2006 05:29 PM

Okay, I definitly think Neuqua needs to get replaced and a lynch needs to happen tonight. With that being said, i dont like having to lynch a new guy, but if he doesn't even know he's playing, what other choice do we have? Hell, we might get lucky like we did in the football game and lynch a wolf!

vote Scoobz

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls (Post 1296787)
alan - no one said you were tasteless, chill. they said and I agreed it was in poor/bad taste. you can vote how you want it just didn't seem to be the right thing to do in his case. just like you said you don't like voting for a new player in their first game.

everyone needs to take a step back from the keyboard for a moment and take a deep breath...it's only day 1 and we're all getting too worked up.


I am actually more worked up about Blade claiming I said things i didn't then this :)

I just don't like people throwing out insults in a game when they don't need to be. You don't have to like my play but insults really are immature is all. :)

I'm honestly not too worked up over it.

saldana 11-06-2006 05:29 PM

i dont think there is an issue with voting for neuqua....i doubt he gives a crap about WW right now, and voting for him would be no different than voting for me in the football game...a real life issue that makes it impossible to play gives a logical vote for it being day one....its not personal at all, and actually does the GM a favor by not making them look for a replacement.


with that said, i think we need to get to a lynch number tonight, so since the sentiment is not to vote for neuqua, i wont either....i am still holding onto mine to make sure it goes towards actually getting to 13.

as far as blade goes, crazy does not equal bad, as some people have alluded to...when i was insane in the asylum game, i had to change my vote the number of times equal to whatever day number it was...and even though i ended up killing a teammate when i tried to remove my tumor, i was a good guy throughout and would have been even more valuable had i succeeded.

based on my knowledge of LOTR, smeagol would never be in Bree, so the assumption that blade is playing the role of smeagol/gollum is inherently flawed...not to say that blade isnt batshit crazy, but IMO, there is no way he is Smeagol, which means we have no basis for his good/evil alignment at this point.

LoneStarGirl 11-06-2006 05:30 PM

Alant, you have more posts then almost everybody else in this game combined.

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296788)
Brian gets it


Brian is agreeing with me though. :) I don't understand why saying you have been roleplaying as if you have a Dissociative identity disorder, and linking it to applicable situations from this story line is pushing for your lynch though.

Worst case, if you are what i think you are I have bigger fish to fry right now than you but at some point I bet your usefulness will end.

Best case, you have a role with Dissociative identity disorder but is entirely unlinked from the story line and if so, my not voting for you today would be good as well.

BrianD 11-06-2006 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296788)
Brian gets it


I'm not sure I see a huge difference between the two states, but then I'm not sure I care either. :)

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296790)
I can't help it that the only characters from J.R.R TOlkien's writings that came close to a Dissociative identity disorder were those who were affected by the ring and its alluring power and call. And those people were so drawn to it that they would often do unethical or selfish things in order to either obtain the ring or maintain holding on to it. (See Gollum with Deagol, Boromir with Frodo, Isildur, etc)

I have no problems with you roleplaying a role, but you have to be ready to take the heat that doing so will come with it. In your case the association to those type of people from the stories and how they behaved.

You know me well enough by now to know if I wanted to lynch you, I would be trying to give everyone every reason possible to do so right or wrong.


Not if your bad...you would let me get myself lynched...its too early in the game for wolves to be in the spotlight

You know me as well, im happy to take the heat. I role-played in part for the heat. At the same time, you have to expect me to defend myself. I didnt get mad when you accused me, when grammat did, etc. I got mad when schmidty and LSG started putting down my play style. Actually, they put me down becuase of my play style. You know me well enough to not expect me to defend myself. But i didnt vote them, just like you didnt vote me. I voted my top suspect, and went about playing the game

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl (Post 1296796)
Alant, you have more posts then almost everybody else in this game combined.


How do you figure? hes at 31? im only like 4 back..

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1296795)
i dont think there is an issue with voting for neuqua....i doubt he gives a crap about WW right now, and voting for him would be no different than voting for me in the football game...a real life issue that makes it impossible to play gives a logical vote for it being day one....its not personal at all, and actually does the GM a favor by not making them look for a replacement.


with that said, i think we need to get to a lynch number tonight, so since the sentiment is not to vote for neuqua, i wont either....i am still holding onto mine to make sure it goes towards actually getting to 13.

as far as blade goes, crazy does not equal bad, as some people have alluded to...when i was insane in the asylum game, i had to change my vote the number of times equal to whatever day number it was...and even though i ended up killing a teammate when i tried to remove my tumor, i was a good guy throughout and would have been even more valuable had i succeeded.

based on my knowledge of LOTR, smeagol would never be in Bree, so the assumption that blade is playing the role of smeagol/gollum is inherently flawed...not to say that blade isnt batshit crazy, but IMO, there is no way he is Smeagol, which means we have no basis for his good/evil alignment at this point.


In the story line Gollum did go to Bree a few times, it just never was during the times that the movies took place in. Gollum traveled anywhere he needed to in order to get his precious back (that included the Shire at times as well).

That said, I think Blade (and perhaps everyone else) is making too big of a deal over what my analysis was. I simply was explaining it for those who are not as aware of this "theme" to try to help. I'll stop trying to help if everyone doesn't want it.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1296795)
not to say that blade isnt batshit crazy


This will be the only time i dont take offense to that comment

Fouts 11-06-2006 05:36 PM

Bring back the crazy blade who talks to himself!

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296802)
Not if your bad...you would let me get myself lynched...its too early in the game for wolves to be in the spotlight

You know me as well, im happy to take the heat. I role-played in part for the heat. At the same time, you have to expect me to defend myself. I didnt get mad when you accused me, when grammat did, etc. I got mad when schmidty and LSG started putting down my play style. Actually, they put me down becuase of my play style. You know me well enough to not expect me to defend myself. But i didnt vote them, just like you didnt vote me. I voted my top suspect, and went about playing the game


I have no problem with you voting your top suspect. You just gave reasons being I said things that I never did say. Thats probably more of a red light for people then anything I ever did say.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1296812)
I have no problem with you voting your top suspect. You just gave reasons being I said things that I never did say. Thats probably more of a red light for people then anything I ever did say.

Kill me, i dont care...i just think you have, and continue to paint me as a role not on the side of the village which is as good as calling me a wolf. You say its not, but it is. Like i said, around and around

BrianD 11-06-2006 05:42 PM

Has anyone done any statistical analysis to see how often Blade and Alan have this fight in WW games?

Fouts 11-06-2006 05:43 PM

While I didn't see it in the rules, I'm going to assume that the villagers, rangers, and agents of dark are all hobbit, human or dwarf. Else we would be able to tell them on sight.

KWhit checked in, scoobz or nequa hasn't, so my vote is:

unvote KWhit

vote scoobz

Alan T 11-06-2006 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1296815)
Kill me, i dont care...i just think you have, and continue to paint me as a role not on the side of the village which is as good as calling me a wolf. You say its not, but it is. Like i said, around and around


Go ahead and keep saying that I'm trying to get you lynched today :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296818)
Has anyone done any statistical analysis to see how often Blade and Alan have this fight in WW games?


Blade would miss me if I wasn't in the game. I am the wind beneathe his wings.

Grammaticus 11-06-2006 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts (Post 1296811)
Bring back the crazy blade who talks to himself!


BRING BACK "SYBIL BLADE", BRING BACK "SYBIL BLADE", BRING BACK "SYBIL BLADE".
Pounding fists on table for effect.

Fouts 11-06-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 1296818)
Has anyone done any statistical analysis to see how often Blade and Alan have this fight in WW games?


It used to be entertaining, but now its just a rehash of past fights.

Blade6119 11-06-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts (Post 1296824)
It used to be entertaining, but now its just a rehash of past fights.


Hes just made i couldnt save him two nights in a row in the other game


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