What are you saying, that you hate yourself and think you are an As#? I don’t understand this. Jedi respect life in all forms Qwik, even that of their own. If you know you are a Jedi true to the force, then you are committing a greater wrong in voting for yourself than someone who may have been lured to the dark side.

As it appears we must root out the Sith on this ship prior to landing in Embleton and it appears we must do so by finding candidates to lynch, then we are saving many lives in the Embleton system. Because of this greater need and the peril of not acting, we must vote.

I don’t feel a suspicion toward anyone just yet, so I am going to go with a random vote

VOTE STKELLY52

Dude, WTF???

Is this a ploy because of some wierd power you have, or are you just a ninny?*


This comment is regarding in game stuff. Please do not contact my lawyer, send me death threats, or go all Blade on me. Thanks.

I think this is a significant possibility. Hwoever if he is the duke role, why waste it on day 1? If he is the duke then he should be trying to use it on day 3 or so when he has at least some idea who might be Sith. The only reason I could see otherwise is if he just wants to confim himslef.

Okay, how about laying primer cord then? ;)

I don't really want to jump on the Qwik bandwagon yet, so I'll vote for the player with the least amount of posts so far.

VOTE Superman=#54

I did not find a link on the net for this data. A human source told me:

“Early on I believe it did mean something ( before the latest movies ), and it was told in the KOTOR game. I believe the four colors were:

Red: Sith
Blue: Jedi Guardian - Defenders of the Republic
Yellow: Jedi Sentinel - Finds deceit and corruption, a balance of physical and mental
Green: Jedi Consular - Knowledge and Negotiation

From what I've read, the Sith chose red because the only mines they had access too had red force crystals. And while the Jedi had more colors to choose from, later on their supply dwindled down to only green and blue (if they could be found at all) after the Empire came into power. Purple wasn't officially a force crystal color, but it was requested by Samuel L. Jackson to Lucas and he was given a different colored lightsaber in the movie.”

I looked at the KOTOR game and it does reflect the above.

OK, I haven't seen anything to really make me suspicious of anyone yet. But I have to vote before I leave for work, so here goes nothing.

I gotta vote for the non-Dola-ing Sith Doc.

Vote Eaglesfan27

I am offended.

Vote Schmidty

Again, regarding conversions I would guess there is a standard WW opportunity of one conversion. If it got tricky, it could be a conversion with the chance Jedi are strong minded and get a chance to resist. Or it could be the Sith Master (if there is one) can try to turn someone each turn and it is a low percentage chance that determines success. With the average meaning he may get 1 or 2 conversions over about 5 or 6 turns. I really have no idea, just some speculation.

Et tu, Jeeber? Ouch. At least, I probably won't get killed by the Sith tonight if I have a few votes.

There is a ton of information on Wikipedia. A search on Jedi includes some mention of the colors of light sabers. I closed that link up a few minutes ago because I'm packing up to go home for the day but this should be a very easy Google search for anyone who wants to do some reading.

Gram, a bunch of the information you list above sounds exactly like the Wikipedia info.

Ardent it should be noted that you are very high on my list of suspects(ok, list probably isn't the best word, it contains 2 at this point) at this time. I made a post saying I hope we are on the same side b/c we work well together. I also said I hope we could work together in rooting out the sith, much like we did on the other side in the HP game. I asked you to say you were on my side, you didn't. Sometimes that is all the proof you need. ;)

EDIT--typed "un" instead of "in"

Holy shit man, I forgot. I'm sorry for breaking tradition. :(

Unvote Desnudo

Vote Ardent Enthusiast

It also sounds like the info in KOTOR1.

Been busy, haven't seen that post. I recall something along the lines of "I hope we're on the same side" but that's about it.

That said, I know how devious both you and I can be. I'll keep you at arms length for now. :)

Still no desire to say you are a jedi? And you drop the word devious? There is nothing devious about killing the sith to save a planet my friend.

I did a while back.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

I had to go back to page 1 and see if you were a player in the game or not. ;)

;), I've just been messing with ya. The game got quiet, so I figured no one better than you to pick on at this point.

Voting for someone who hasn't checked in yet.

VOTE SUPERMAN

Vote STKELLY52

He was the first one to cast a vote and it was for me.

Hoops you going to do your helpful post summary during the night this game?

Well, I still am tossing a coin between Qwikshot and Lathum, both of whom in my mind did some suspicious posts today.

Since the bandwagon is running hot for Qwik right now, I'll

VOTE LATHUM

to hopefully keep things close so we see people's allegiances based on who they vote for or not for.

Alan T has been doing the vote updates/recaps lately but I'm always willing to pinch-hit.

I can try to in a bit. I'm busy with work now for the next hour or so. If no one has one up by the time I finish, I'll throw something out!

20 votes in already, by my count:

Kingfc (1) - StKelly (128)
Alan T (1) - Lathum (142)
Qwikshot (6) - Qwikshot (158), Barkeep (159), Eaglesfan27 (170), Pennywise (172), Cartman (179), SackAttack (181)
Superman (3) - SnDvls (167), KWhit (206), TazFTW (222)
Eaglesfan (2) - Hoopsguy (174), JeeberD (208)
Schmidty (2) - Desnudo (180), Ardent Enthusiast (209)
Lathum (2) - Dubb (195), Alan T (225)
StKelly (2) - Gram (202), King (223)
Ardent (1) - Schmidty (214)


Votes that I don't have a record of: Tanglewood, Superman, Mckerney

random vote tonight, randomizer gave me 19, so

Vote Dubb93

I looks like quik is probably done for but for the sake of defending my thoughts on conversions, I belive there is the ability for ONE person to be converted, however it seemed to me that AlanT's theory was that there is one person with no limit to how many people they could convert. I the style of the game that doesn't really make sense. IMO.

Unvote Qwikshot
Vote Qwikshot

Put that in your pipe and smoke it ;)

Oh no you didn't!

Oh yes I did...I love these games, but even if I unvote myself, I'm guarenteed to cause even more suspicion to myself...so I say this with utmost respect, look at the guys who voted for me, I'm sure the 3 no voters will probably vote in rapid succession for my demise as well...of that group you probably have one or two Sith, some last minute non voters who suddenly shift vote on me will probably be the best guess baddies...I hope my death with enable the Jedi to find the murders of Master Saladana...

I know with great happiness that I will return in apparition form speaking Jar-Jar from time to time during this game...truly all of you should appreciate that...

Meesa don'ta wanta dieeeee!!!!
:D

Hold me Jar Jar.

GRRRRR....don't care that you are voting me since I think my actions so far today have been in an attempt to help the jedi. But I hate random votes. In my mind it can help later in the game to bury you vote early on someone not getting votes. And I've never seen a "random" vote ever show up for anyone getting votes at that point.

Yeah, I hate the "random" votes too.

So, wait. If we kill him for speaking in Jar-Jarese, he'll come back speaking Jar-Jarese, but we won't be able to kill him this time?

Unvote Qwikshot

I'm so confused. I don't know what to do!

See, here's my feeling on this, and no I won't go Blade on you, or anything.

My strategy is this: most of the gamers here hold their identities close to the vest, this leaves the bad guys at least time to kill one or two Jedi before we start figuring out whose's who.

Most of the time, most gamers just randomly vote and in doing so seem to piss off and divide the group long before anyone can get some sort of consensus, this again leads to the bad guys (who don't even have to cause rife) to assist further in the divide and conquer process but joining with the further splintering factions.

I /know/ I'm a Jedi, nothing more nothing less...I'm not a "duke" or "seer" or anything...just a regular dyed in the wool Jedi...

But I /wanted/ to cause debate and ultimately cause some direction... I figured voting for myself would make it easy for any baddie to jump off the fencepost and fiercely argue for my death (the jar jar lynch proponents ALSO seem quite quick to lynch over Jar Jar comments rather than anything substantial -- let's hang a guy for cracking a joke who may be one of us and thus may be beneficial in keeping around, but we'll kill him, not because he's Sith, but because he made some Jar Jar comment - I hate Jar Jar but I wouldn't vote a guy to death over making a comment like that)

I figured this would be an easy out for the Sith to spur on the votes simply because they wouldn't have to be analyzed and plan multiple votes against multiple people...I'd be surprised if none of the Sith voted for me.

So like Obi-Wan faced Darth...I knew that my fate was sealed rather than fight it, I turned off the sabre and awaited my fate, knowing that doing so would spur my protege (in this case comrades) in finding the true indentities of our enemies...

So I highly doubt what I did as stupid as much as I think it will further accelarate who is evil and who is good.

Relax, if I die I won't speak Jar-Jar...if I live I won't speak Jar-Jar...but it is a cruel ploy isn't it :p

Having never played this game before, I am unaware of some of the stratagy that goes into it, but I find Qwik's vote for himself suspicious. However I find the band waggon that has risen against him even mor suspicious. barkeep was the first to vote for qwik after his vote, so I will change my vote to him
Unvote King
Vote barkeep

I'm off to sleep...May the Force be with you Jedi.

Yikes. I lost my internet connection for almost an hour. I'm going to take a look at things and see if I can't finalize my vote by the deadline.

In case I run out of time or get disconnected, I'm switching back to Qwikshot just because I fear the Jar-Jar.

Vote Qwikshot

This is subject to change if I still have time.

Finished another useless paper. If anyone wants to write a 10 page autobiography on me please PM and get to work.

It's due March 15th and I haven't started. :)

I guess if I do a page a day I should be good to go.

Well, I'm going to shift to a non-voter as I think that is the worst thing you can, other than lie when you are a good guy.

UNVOTE STKELLY52

VOTE SUPERMAN

Huh, I thought you were in the Navy, are you going to school too?

Yeah, the suckage never stops.

I think I agree here. I see a post for him signing up, but absolutely nothing since.

unvote Qwikshot
vote Superman#54

Sack,

You realize that gives us a tie? Most games, I don't think a tie is that helpful.

I'll gamble.

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY

VOTE SUPERMAN

No sir. I didn't see saldana's post until after my switch. I thought Qwik was much further ahead than 2 votes.

No biggie now. Superman is now leading with 6. While, I think suspicion is still on Qwikshot, at least we don't have a tie.

Well, if Qwikshot is bad, we saw Sack, Ardent and Gramm vote late to swing the vote huge away from him.

By all means, use that against me.

If Jar Jar talk ensues, I'm blaming the late vote changers... :mad:

Then tell Superman to vote on day one.

Zing.

Conversely, IF Superman is bad, Sack, Ardent, and Grammaticus move up to the top of my trust list.

However, if Superman is good, I think we might need to get lynch Qwikshot just to get more info that can help us analyze the late vote swing.

I have no real problem with voting off the nonplayer. That's often my strategy anyway though any last minute sniping will and should arise suspicion.

Well, we did see some late movement to create the two man race. So did the Sith marshall forces late to save him or was it just coincidence?

I'm hoping we are praising the late vote changers in a couple of minutes instead of burying them ...

I'm a nobody. The jedi won't lose anything if I'm lynched or if I die at night...so I've been and plan on being low key. Besides, I got this friggin paper that I really got to work on. I figure the superman/qwik thing was an opportunity to clear myself or throw me in the limelight.

Better to vote me out than one of the jedi with something important going on. I'll take the martyr's role like qwik.

Well, I had the choice of leaving my vote on Sarge who has posted a bit in the day and leave it as a random nothing or move it to a non voter. I waited all day in order to see if anything real developed. I don't think what Qwik did was very Sithish behavior so I moved the vote to where it belonged. If Superman had come in and voted, I may have moved off him, who knows because it did not happen.

I don't have a problem voting the non-active people. Just always good data to know who voted within 5 min of each other at the very last minutes of a day to swing a vote is all.

Chances are both Superman and Qwik might be good, and you wouldnt know that if you are a good guy.
Or if Qwik is bad, that could explain a late surge of votes too.

I don't know if i like the whole martyr approach that Qwik and Ardent are using though, it basically feels like a dare almost "Go ahead and lynch me, doesnt matter" type statement.

Well, that sucks. I'll take the heat.

Im ok with playing this weekend, but I do have to warn I have a critical office move on Saturday. There is a chance I might be gone from noon till midnight that day for work, and miss any or most discussion during the day.

Hmm, this sounds like a tie would result in a vital announcement ;)

Im not sure I'm ready to put heat on you yet, since there are several reasons to vote for Super there, alot good, and only 1 I can think of bad for us.

I would be interested to see tommorrow what happens if heat is put on Qwikshot again. if a similar group of people come to the rescue again.

I actually feel pretty good about it, but you've got it all wrong. Lynching me saves someone of use to the Jedi. I have no special power. I'm all for saving those with the power to save us.

Err, to win it for us I mean.

I won't be around for at least part of Saturday, and possibly all of it. I would prefer not to do weekend play for at least this weekend.

I can't say what future weekends will hold.

Bummer about Superman. :( Wish he would've chimed in, but at least we didn't lose somebody who's been contributing (even the erratic contributors like Qwik).

I'll be around, so weekend won't be a problem.

I can play through the weekend.

Well I am virtually unavailable tomorrow so I would prefer extended voting, but understand those who feel differently and would gladly just vote early in the day.

Well, another way to not lose anyone important to us is to just not vote anyone...

However if you look at it a different approach, voting for someone good also means that you miss a chance to vote for a Sith. So by being a good jedi and purposely saying vote for me, causes everyone to lose a day of possibly getting someone bad or at least getting helpful vote pattern help.

I'm just having difficulty grasping the whole vote for me even though I am a good jedi approach right now.

I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED ANOTHER FUCKING VOTE :mad: :mad:

Sorry guys, I forgot that this game is east coast time when the last one I was in was central time. Well, shit. I am now officially the board idiot.

FWIW, I was probably going to vote for Lathum.

I would like to play during the weekend, but whatever the majority decides is good with me.

I won't be around much during the weekend.

I say we keep tomorrow as is and then just do an extended round that lasts all day Sat and Sun with a lynch deadline on Sunday night.

Weekend is okay with me, I play cards tomorrow night though. So most Fridays, I have to get what I can in by 5pm, then I usually cannot get online until after 1am. Sometimes I can do it on a break but you never know. Either way I can work with it. Tomorrow I will probably try to get on line close to vote time. Unless of course I am winning big and cannot pull myself away from the table.

It's the ole Jedi Mind Trick

:D

That sounds like a pretty good idea to me.

That is a pretty good compromise.

vote: in favor of Kwhit's idea

I work Friday and saturday night so I would rather not play the weekend but if we do excuse my silence.

You are the man AE, but you fucked this up, and at this early point in the game, whether you are a Jedi or not, you are target numero uno.

At the time he made that post, Qwik had a 2 vote lead. The announcement could have had to do with a lynch of Qwik.

There are a couple of fairly obvious candidates for scrutiny tomorrow based on todays vote but I'm not too inclined to dig into them until after the night actions are up.

Weekend play - fine with whatever group decides.

At the same time, why would a Sith put themself so far out on the line, knowing that their push would put a target on their back?

Why does that make him the number one target?

This is true, although I got the sense he saw a potential tie and was advising we pay attention. Either one could trigger the VA.

Did you read the post I made after that?

I actually think it had to do with how to avoid having Jedis kill themselves and was going to be some kind of rule change before he thought of the mind wipe. Don't forget that the game was on short notice so it's entirely possible certain things just weren't thought through in the same way they'd have been if saldana had been given more time to prepare.

I would like to play through the weekend, but what ever the group decides.

I don't know... It took 25 minutes to go from not having a way to 'kill' a Jedi to having one. That's some quick thinking but I guess it is plausible due to what Saldana said.

Anyway, I just mentioned the Qwik scenario as an addition that it could be a tie breaker like Gramm suggested. I don't necessarily think the non-announcement means Qwik is/was guilty, just putting that out there as information that could be analyzed.

this is essentially correct. the announcement i was going to make tonight will instead come tomorrow night. i had forgotten that the Force Banishment was going to be my 1st night lynch method, but all will become clear after tomorrow's lynch. the postponement of the announcement has nothing to do with who was the lynchee or who wasnt. sorry for the confusion, and thanks for understanding BK

I'm good with whatever the group decides.

I can do anything. I'll be free enough this weekend to play the game.

I look forward to hearing your analysis. I think we probably need to vote on Qwik tomorrow to help clarify the vote shift today as well as other voting patterns. However, that opinion certainly could change tomorrow. I'm off to bed for tonight.