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Chief Rum 10-12-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor (Post 2141793)
Thank god the Yotes did'nt move to Hamilton.I could'nt stand to watch that much shit hockey.


You can say that again.

Oh wait, you did.

bbor 10-12-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2141867)
You can say that again.

Oh wait, you did.


LOL:D

Maple Leafs 10-13-2009 12:15 PM


johnnyshaka 10-13-2009 02:47 PM

Great stuff, ML.

Not sure if the Oilers are for real or not...they did this to start last season as well...but they are a lot more fun to watch than they used to be.

DataKing 10-13-2009 03:29 PM

Wings/Sabres tonight on VS

RomaGoth 10-13-2009 03:55 PM

Very nice ML.

Galaxy 10-13-2009 07:27 PM

What happened to Detroit?

Honolulu_Blue 10-13-2009 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 2142615)
What happened to Detroit?


Lost 40% of their offense from last season through free agency and injury.

Besides, it's one game. They got blown out by Nashville and Columbus last year something like 8-0 and 8-2 or something.

Galaxy 10-13-2009 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2142627)
Lost 40% of their offense from last season through free agency and injury.



I know how that feels being a Sabres fan.

RomaGoth 10-13-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 2142615)
What happened to Detroit?


Defense looks terrible, a very poor effort from the entire team. Hopefully they can pick it up against the Kings on Thursday.

Galaxy 10-13-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2142706)
Defense looks terrible, a very poor effort from the entire team. Hopefully they can pick it up against the Kings on Thursday.


Bad news for the Sabres is Vanek is out for "weeks".

johnnyshaka 10-13-2009 09:15 PM

Uhm...no Chelios and the Wings are losing? Am I missing something here or is the solution right in front of Ken Holland?

;)

Logan 10-15-2009 09:21 AM

PLEASE STAY HEALTHY MARIAN! His goal last night was just such a smooth play.

In other news, Vinny Prospal has been a great cheap FA signing.

Dr. Sak 10-15-2009 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2144056)
PLEASE STAY HEALTHY MARIAN! His goal last night was just such a smooth play.

In other news, Vinny Prospal has been a great cheap FA signing.


Wait till the hitting picks up...Prospal won't be going into corners anymore for pucks, and will vanish like a fart in the wind.

The Rangers have impressed me though.

Logan 10-15-2009 09:34 AM

Well historically he does alternate good/shitty years, so we're hoping to benefit from that.

Del Zotto has been incredible. His passing is top notch for a 19 year old. The only thing I'm worried about at this point (hard to be worried in a 6-game winning streak) is that the 2nd line has really struggled to score. Once everyone else cools off, which will obviously happen, they need to start stepping up.

This team really could be special if Cherapanov was here. So sad.

Dr. Sak 10-15-2009 09:42 AM

I hope Del Zotto keeps it up, I just picked him up on my fantasy team.

Chubby 10-15-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 2142751)
Bad news for the Sabres is Vanek is out for "weeks".

good news is he's really out "days" :)

Galaxy 10-15-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 2144201)
good news is he's really out "days" :)


Yeap. Could be back by the weekend.

bhlloy 10-15-2009 11:33 PM

LOL, classic moment in the Coyotes-Blues game on NHL Center Ice. They are taking their time reviewing Jovanovski's OT goal, they zoom in on him and he yells real loud "come on you fucking prick/dink/something else offensive" at the ref.

Also Kariya scores one of the most bizarre goals you will ever see, Yandle brings the puck out from behind his own net, sits there for a second and Kariya just slaps the puck off his stick through the legs of Bryzgalov who is looking down the ice.

Galaxy 10-20-2009 05:28 PM

The Sabres traded Daniel Paille to Boston for a 2010 third-round pick and a conditional fourth-round pick.

samifan24 10-20-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 2148823)
The Sabres traded Daniel Paille to Boston for a 2010 third-round pick and a conditional fourth-round pick.


Can any Sabres fans tell me about Paille? What sort of player is he? 3rd line grinder?

Suburban Rhythm 10-20-2009 07:30 PM

So he replaces Kobasew, with less offensive ability, a little younger, and about $1M cap savings?

NoSkillz 10-20-2009 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 2148842)
Can any Sabres fans tell me about Paille? What sort of player is he? 3rd line grinder?


Paille likely tops out as a third line checker type - good wheels, responsible defensively and an above average penalty killer. Decent in the corners and on the cycle...

However, there is no consistency to his game and that's why he fell out of favour in Buffalo. One game you'll notice him buzzing all over the ice and the next three he'll be invisible. He scored 19 goals a couple years ago but that is likely his ceiling. His hands are a bit below average, especially considering the fact he was a first round pick.

I think he just needed a change of scenery. Seems like a good kid (he's a local boy, born and raised in Welland, ON, about 20 minutes from Buffalo) but he has to realize he's running out of chances to stick in the NHL and has to bring a solid work ethic into every game, not just once in awhile. He was a big hitter in junior hockey in Guelph and was a great leader there but those skills haven't translated to the pros.

If they put him on the third line with Bergeron, he has the chance to put up 45 points if he plays well. Otherwise, expect about 30 points, inconsistent efforts from game to game but solid penalty killing.

Galaxy 10-20-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSkillz (Post 2148893)
Paille likely tops out as a third line checker type - good wheels, responsible defensively and an above average penalty killer. Decent in the corners and on the cycle...

However, there is no consistency to his game and that's why he fell out of favour in Buffalo. One game you'll notice him buzzing all over the ice and the next three he'll be invisible. He scored 19 goals a couple years ago but that is likely his ceiling. His hands are a bit below average, especially considering the fact he was a first round pick.

I think he just needed a change of scenery. Seems like a good kid (he's a local boy, born and raised in Welland, ON, about 20 minutes from Buffalo) but he has to realize he's running out of chances to stick in the NHL and has to bring a solid work ethic into every game, not just once in awhile. He was a big hitter in junior hockey in Guelph and was a great leader there but those skills haven't translated to the pros.

If they put him on the third line with Bergeron, he has the chance to put up 45 points if he plays well. Otherwise, expect about 30 points, inconsistent efforts from game to game but solid penalty killing.


What he said.

His lack of consistency is his problem. When he's on, he can be a pain to play against. He's can punch in goals as well. Maybe a change of scenery and change of coaches will help.

Chubby 10-21-2009 07:15 AM

I'm amazed Darcy made a move at all, usually he likes to try and send someone down to the AHL (only to see them get claimed)

Sublime 2 10-21-2009 11:19 AM

Ughh! On top of Looch being out a few weeks with a broken finger, I just read Savard is out 4-6 weeks w/ a broken foot! Just Lovely!

I'd like to maybe see Zach Hamill get some burn while Savvy is out. Along w/ the increased PT Sobotka/Marchand should see, we should get an extended look at the youngsters.

samifan24 10-21-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublime 2 (Post 2149653)
Ughh! On top of Looch being out a few weeks with a broken finger, I just read Savard is out 4-6 weeks w/ a broken foot! Just Lovely!

I'd like to maybe see Zach Hamill get some burn while Savvy is out. Along w/ the increased PT Sobotka/Marchand should see, we should get an extended look at the youngsters.


We may see Hamill eventually but for now we get Trent Whitfield. Ugh. I'm not sure how this Bruins season could get any worse.

bbor 10-21-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublime 2 (Post 2149653)
Ughh! On top of Looch being out a few weeks with a broken finger, I just read Savard is out 4-6 weeks w/ a broken foot! Just Lovely!

I'd like to maybe see Zach Hamill get some burn while Savvy is out. Along w/ the increased PT Sobotka/Marchand should see, we should get an extended look at the youngsters.



Trade ya Kessel for 2 1st and a 2nd.

samifan24 10-21-2009 11:27 AM

If Paille is as good a penalty killer as you guys say then I like the deal. Losing Yelle, Ward and Axelsson from the PK units have killed the Bruins this year.

RomaGoth 10-21-2009 04:04 PM

The Penguins Gonchar is out for about as long as Savard. Guess he was injured in last night's game.

Suburban Rhythm 10-21-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2149914)
The Penguins Gonchar is out for about as long as Savard. Guess he was injured in last night's game.


Broken bone in his wrist, left in the middle of the 2nd period last night.

Gives Pittsburgh a chance to see what it's like with Letang and Goligoski running the PP. Gonchar is in the final year of his deal, and Letang's entry level deal up end of this season. Speculation is Gonchar wants to continue (end?) his career in Pittsburgh- he's won here, well liked, Geno attached to him-- but this let's the Pens see if they can drive the price down a little.

Pairings will probably shift around a little, Letang-Orpik on the top pair now.

Suburban Rhythm 10-21-2009 07:04 PM

Caught this in the SI Vault, Pierre McGuire list of top 15 prospects in 1999, who will be the best in 10 years (now).

Ten Years From Now... - 11.22.99 - SI Vault

samifan24 10-21-2009 07:10 PM

Well the Bruins are falling apart...

Dr. Sak 10-21-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 2150026)
Well the Bruins are falling apart...


They'll break out when they play the Flyers this week.

Maple Leafs 10-21-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2150022)
Caught this in the SI Vault, Pierre McGuire list of top 15 prospects in 1999, who will be the best in 10 years (now).

Ten Years From Now... - 11.22.99 - SI Vault

Stuff like that makes me feel better about having no prospects or draft picks.

bbor 10-21-2009 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 2150112)
Stuff like that makes me feel better about having no prospects or draft picks.


Or young players or veteran players.

Wolfpack 10-21-2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 2150026)
Well the Bruins are falling apart...


Could be worse. The Canes don't look like they've come together. Just gave the Isles their first win of the year in a shootout. *sigh*

BishopMVP 10-22-2009 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 2149661)
Ugh. I'm not sure how this Bruins season could get any worse.

Like bbor said... we could have traded our 1st round pick, so even losing all season wouldn't give us anything.

johnnyshaka 10-22-2009 10:20 PM

Penner has 3 points going into the 3rd period and 12 points on the season...holy shit!!

Yes, his key to the city is currently being fabricated.

EDIT: Make that 4 points...just scored his 2nd goal of the night to tie it up...WOW!!

johnnyshaka 10-22-2009 10:45 PM

And Penner adds his 5th point of the night with an assist on the go ahead goal.

Forget the key to the city...I now live in Pennerton, Alberta!!!

Chief Rum 10-22-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 2150960)
And Penner adds his 5th point of the night with an assist on the go ahead goal.

Forget the key to the city...I now live in Pennerton, Alberta!!!


Wait...is it a contract year?

johnnyshaka 10-22-2009 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2150970)
Wait...is it a contract year?


No...it isn't...that's what is so amazing about his start to the season!!!

RomaGoth 10-23-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2150022)
Caught this in the SI Vault, Pierre McGuire list of top 15 prospects in 1999, who will be the best in 10 years (now).

Ten Years From Now... - 11.22.99 - SI Vault


:lol:

Only Gagne and Tanguay have really turned into top players from that group. Fisher is above average. Several of those players are not even in the NHL anymore.

McGuire is an idiot.

TurnerONU22 10-23-2009 08:42 AM

Jackets completely gifted the game to Edmonton, after being up 4-1. The top line can't play a lick of defense, and missing Hejda (who has to be a top 5 shutdown defenseman) and Commodore isn't helping either.

johnnyshaka 10-23-2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurnerONU22 (Post 2151183)
Jackets completely gifted the game to Edmonton, after being up 4-1. The top line can't play a lick of defense, and missing Hejda (who has to be a top 5 shutdown defenseman) and Commodore isn't helping either.


We were missing some guys, too...no Souray or Staios and with Brule down with the flu that meant we had to dress MacIntyre...a 4th line ECHLer.

I'm definitely glad I didn't change the channel after the Torres goal, that's for sure!!

Travis 10-23-2009 10:44 AM

I wonder how MacT feels knowing that his best move as a coach for this team was getting fired.

Logan 10-23-2009 10:48 AM

Went to the Rangers-Devils game last night and was able to see the worst game of Marc Staal's career. Awesome.

RomaGoth 10-23-2009 01:55 PM

What's next, a team blowjob session? The entire Lightning team needs to turn in their mancard.

Puck naked: Tampa Bay Lightning strip it off for team unity - ESPN

Maple Leafs 10-23-2009 07:10 PM

In anticipation of the Leafs/Canucks game tomorrow, a few of bored fans were able to get #KyleWellwoodIsSoFat into the trending topics list on Twitter today.

This is what happens when for some reason you decide to give a team a full week off in the middle of October.

TurnerONU22 10-25-2009 11:36 AM

The Jackets blow another 2+ goal lead on the road, but come back to win thanks to Fedor Tyutin's crazy goal late in the 3rd. Here's the winning goal:



This highlight doesn't show Giguere "reinjuring" his groin on the goal.

bhlloy 10-25-2009 11:59 AM

Great job by Panthers players of skating around with their heads down and their thumb up their asses after Mike Richards absolutely destroyed the best young player in their organization and possibly ended his season. It's only October and you are already mailing the season in and playing for yourselves? Good job. Somebody had to take over for the Kings now the Kings are decent and actually playing with some backbone.

Draft Dodger 10-25-2009 12:03 PM

how about them Avs?

TroyF 10-25-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 2152503)
how about them Avs?



The Avs and Bronocos both supposed to suck, both playing lights out.

Love the way the 18 year olds are playing. Still worried about depth and consistent offense, but Andersen is playing great and we finally have some young talent again.

RomaGoth 10-26-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 2152640)
The Avs and Bronocos both supposed to suck, both playing lights out.

Love the way the 18 year olds are playing. Still worried about depth and consistent offense, but Andersen is playing great and we finally have some young talent again.


In other news, the Wings are continuing their free fall into NHL mediocrity. I am hoping things will pick up, but with injuries and the salary cap finally catching up to us, the future is looking cloudy right now.

Suburban Rhythm 10-26-2009 06:55 PM

Nothing in here about the Richards-Booth hit?

As an avowed Flyers hater...tough to pin that on Richards. The only problem I have with it is it was a head shot. But, currently, it's not illegal.

Richards has been portrayed as a new-age Bobby Clarke, playing right on the edge, and maybe sometimes going over it. But I don't think there was anything intentional about that hit. He catches Booths shoulder, and it's not even a discussion.

Now, him running Fleury a few weeks back...different story. :p

Maple Leafs 10-26-2009 07:05 PM

Richards/Booth is no different than any number of other hits we've seen over the years. Vicious, dangerous, and legal according to the rulebook.

If the NHL doesn't want hits like that, they can change the rules. But they don't.

bhlloy 10-26-2009 07:20 PM

Yeah pretty clean IMO by the book, Booth has his head down at Richards shoulder . Down to the Panthers to stop players making those kind of hits on their star players not the league. Shame the Panthers are a bunch of pussies.

Ruutu on Tucker and Ott on Crombeen not so much.

Most interesting hit of the weekend was Scuderi on Chimera... personally i'm in the "clean hit, unfortunate outcome" camp because if Chimera doesn't land on his head nobody even mentions it. But it's worth bringing up because I'm not sure I've ever seen somebody go that low to finish a check before.

TurnerONU22 10-26-2009 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2153857)
Most interesting hit of the weekend was Scuderi on Chimera... personally i'm in the "clean hit, unfortunate outcome" camp because if Chimera doesn't land on his head nobody even mentions it. But it's worth bringing up because I'm not sure I've ever seen somebody go that low to finish a check before.


Don't those two contradict each other? I know I'm biased here, but that's nonsense. On top of that, we end up on the PK after that situation, because Dorsett was in the middle of a line change, and then came back out to challenge Scuderi. How Scuderi didn't get called for something is incredible.

Of course, Scuderi doesn't want to go (and doesn't either, later in the game, when Umberger challenges him). If you have the gall to go low on someone, at least answer the bell.

Here's the video:


bhlloy 10-26-2009 07:50 PM

Well if you can show me the bit in the penalty book that specifically makes it illegal to go low on a hip check, then yeah I guess I am contradicting myself. I honestly have no idea, I don't even know which penalty you would call right there.

Dr. Sak 10-26-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2153838)
Nothing in here about the Richards-Booth hit?

As an avowed Flyers hater...tough to pin that on Richards. The only problem I have with it is it was a head shot. But, currently, it's not illegal.

Richards has been portrayed as a new-age Bobby Clarke, playing right on the edge, and maybe sometimes going over it. But I don't think there was anything intentional about that hit. He catches Booths shoulder, and it's not even a discussion.

Now, him running Fleury a few weeks back...different story. :p


Booth was bent over. What's Richard's suppose to do go even lower? That's pretty much the same hit Scott Stevens gave to Eric Lindros (and others) and those were deemed legal.

bbor 10-26-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2153949)
Booth was bent over.



Hmm...Richards is gay?

Suburban Rhythm 10-26-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2153949)
Booth was bent over. What's Richard's suppose to do go even lower? That's pretty much the same hit Scott Stevens gave to Eric Lindros (and others) and those were deemed legal.


I am agreeing with you. 100% legal.

I just don't understand the NHLs reluctance to make all headshots illegal.

Suburban Rhythm 10-26-2009 09:10 PM

Dola

The weird part of the whole thing, Booth looks over at Richards as he's approaching the blueline, about 3 seconds before the pass. I don't know if he expected Richards not to follow through or what. But he looks back, makes the pass, and gets crushed.

Booth being an American, I am waiting for Don Cherry to ask what Booth was doing with his head so close to Richards' shoulder to begin with.

BishopMVP 10-26-2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2153876)
Well if you can show me the bit in the penalty book that specifically makes it illegal to go low on a hip check, then yeah I guess I am contradicting myself. I honestly have no idea, I don't even know which penalty you would call right there.

That reminds me of the good ole days when I was 4' and playing against kids who had hit puberty. Hip/shoulder checked at least 2 below the waist and got them to flip over me. Don't recall ever getting a penalty.

I know in lacrosse it's legal to check that low - you just never see it because it's such a desperate sell-out move your team is screwed if you miss at all. I don't see why hockey rules would be different, and I don't think they are.

Suburban Rhythm 10-26-2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2153876)
Well if you can show me the bit in the penalty book that specifically makes it illegal to go low on a hip check, then yeah I guess I am contradicting myself. I honestly have no idea, I don't even know which penalty you would call right there.


Official Rules - Rule 45: Clipping - NHL.com - Rules

Quote:

45.1 Clipping - Clipping is the act of throwing the body, from any direction, across or below the knees of an opponent.
A player or goalkeeper may not deliver a check in a “clipping” manner, nor lower his own body position to deliver a check on or below an opponent’s knees.
An illegal “low hit” is a check that is delivered by a player or goalkeeper who may or may not have both skates on the ice, with his sole intent to check the opponent in the area of his knees. A player or goalkeeper may not lower his body position to deliver a check to an opponent’s knees.


BishopMVP 10-26-2009 09:32 PM

Got him on the thigh. Legal.

JonInMiddleGA 10-26-2009 09:47 PM

Kovalchuk out for a month with a broken bone in his foot

Maple Leafs 10-27-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2154113)

a.k.a. "The Darcy Tucker Rule".

bbor 10-27-2009 12:11 PM

Leafs get off the shnide...woohoo...CR can't be happy.

Honolulu_Blue 10-27-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor (Post 2154548)
Leafs get off the shnide...woohoo...CR can't be happy.


So, uh, when's the parade?*





*Sorry. It had to be said.

DeToxRox 10-27-2009 01:00 PM

Keep forgetting to chime in on the Wings, so here goes:

The team's lack of ability to hold leads is nuts (5 games with blown leads so far) but I am going to assume that eventually gets fixed since defense is Detroit's biggest strength.

On offense, Z and Dats not scoring is hurting the the team as much as anything. Obviously they'll pick it up and I am sure a nice 7-3 type stretch will follow.

Goaltending has been okay. Not bad, not great, just okay. Not much help a lot of the time, but then when they do have help they let a weak one slip.

Overall I think we'll be a 4 - 5 seed, and a threat if Ozzy steps up in the playoffs.

Not time to panic yet, though if we get 2-3 weeks more into the year and are playing like this, then I'll be more concerned.

RomaGoth 10-27-2009 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2154584)
Keep forgetting to chime in on the Wings, so here goes:

The team's lack of ability to hold leads is nuts (5 games with blown leads so far) but I am going to assume that eventually gets fixed since defense is Detroit's biggest strength.

On offense, Z and Dats not scoring is hurting the the team as much as anything. Obviously they'll pick it up and I am sure a nice 7-3 type stretch will follow.

Goaltending has been okay. Not bad, not great, just okay. Not much help a lot of the time, but then when they do have help they let a weak one slip.

Overall I think we'll be a 4 - 5 seed, and a threat if Ozzy steps up in the playoffs.

Not time to panic yet, though if we get 2-3 weeks more into the year and are playing like this, then I'll be more concerned.


I agree with you for the most part, but I am probably a bit more worried about things. We have not looked good at all in most of our games, and if not for some great saves by Osgood, we could have lost to Chicago and Washington earlier in the season as well.

The funny part is when I hear the morons already yelling for Babcock to be fired. Like he has anything to do with injuries, subpar defense/goalie play, the salary cap, and Zetterberg/Datsyuk forgetting how to score.

Honolulu_Blue 10-27-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2154584)
Keep forgetting to chime in on the Wings, so here goes:

The team's lack of ability to hold leads is nuts (5 games with blown leads so far) but I am going to assume that eventually gets fixed since defense is Detroit's biggest strength.

On offense, Z and Dats not scoring is hurting the the team as much as anything. Obviously they'll pick it up and I am sure a nice 7-3 type stretch will follow.

Goaltending has been okay. Not bad, not great, just okay. Not much help a lot of the time, but then when they do have help they let a weak one slip.

Overall I think we'll be a 4 - 5 seed, and a threat if Ozzy steps up in the playoffs.

Not time to panic yet, though if we get 2-3 weeks more into the year and are playing like this, then I'll be more concerned.


That pretty much sums up my feelings as well.

Galaxy 10-28-2009 08:31 PM

Sabres beat Devils 4-1 and improve to 7-1-0-1. Miller has to the best goalie in the league so far this year.

Chubby 10-29-2009 05:07 AM

Sabres playing really well so far. It seems like they backed off after they got the 2 goal lead then pushed a little harder in the 3rd. Would have like a more consistent effort but a good road win.

Suburban Rhythm 10-29-2009 07:34 PM

News and notes

Malkin out 2-3 weeks, shoulder injury. Most likely, John Leclair broke into his house and assaulted him, because that's the only guy who's been able to knock out Malkin since he entered the league.

Crosby with a hattrick vs the Habs last night. Crosby has 3 career HTs...and two came on 10/28. 2009 vs Montreal and 2006 vs. Philly (the 3rd coming in the playoffs last year when he and Ovechkin both had hattys)

Chris Kunitz scored his first of the year...and 2nd in 41 games, including playoffs!

Suburban Rhythm 10-29-2009 07:38 PM

Dola

In a totally absurd move...the Flyers recall RandyJones from the AHL, subjecting him to re-entry waivers. He is claimed by the Kings...leaving Philly on the hook for half his salary for the remainder of the season ($1.375M, less prorating for the 10-12% of the season played so far).

I don't understand this. AT ALL.

Jones was stashed in the minors to keep his $2.75M cap hit off the books. By recalling him, they are burning that $1.375M space with no player to show for it.

Sak, is there something I am missing? I know Gagne might be hitting LTIR, but that shouldn't effect Jones.

johnnyshaka 10-29-2009 10:20 PM

After a rather forgettable weekend for the Oilers, the welcome the Wings to town by busting out of a three game goal scoring slump...5-2 after 2...and, yes, Penner is leading the way with a goal and 3 helpers thus far.

MikeVic 10-29-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 2156928)
After a rather forgettable weekend for the Oilers, the welcome the Wings to town by busting out of a three game goal scoring slump...5-2 after 2...and, yes, Penner is leading the way with a goal and 3 helpers thus far.


What have you done.

johnnyshaka 10-29-2009 11:07 PM

I know...I feel shame. But, it was nice to see them score a friggin' goal...it had been a long time!!!

Honolulu_Blue 10-29-2009 11:23 PM

Well, the Wings lost in the shoot out. They always seem to lose those things. Still, given that it was 4-0 and 5-1 at one point, I will gladly take the point.

Galaxy 10-30-2009 12:08 AM

Sabres make it official that Tyler Myers will not be returning to the juniors and is staying in the NHL.

bbor 10-30-2009 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 2156964)
Sabres make it official that Tyler Myers will not be returning to the juniors and is staying in the NHL.


Is that a surprise?He's been one of the best rookies in the NHL this season.

Galaxy 10-30-2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor (Post 2156971)
Is that a surprise?He's been one of the best rookies in the NHL this season.


If it was any other team, no. But the Sabres management? It shouldn't be, but you have to hold your breath.

bbor 10-30-2009 12:45 AM

In Darcy we trust?

I noticed the sabres sched for the next 5 weeks and they only play saturday and wednesdays.That's f'd up.Who made the schedule this year?

The Leafs played 2 games in 2 weeks and this week they play 5 games in 7 nights.

Galaxy 10-30-2009 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor (Post 2156978)
In Darcy we trust?

I noticed the sabres sched for the next 5 weeks and they only play saturday and wednesdays.That's f'd up.Who made the schedule this year?

The Leafs played 2 games in 2 weeks and this week they play 5 games in 7 nights.


Darcy, Larry Quinn (the big boss), and even Lindy at times.

They play Friday, Saturday, and Wednesdays for the next 5 weeks (as they play Toronto tomorrow).

I don't know. The Sabres have a strange schedule. They opened the season on Saturday, then have to wait until the next Thursday to play game 2. The Sabres are tied with Atlanta for playing 9 games, the fewest in the league so far.

RomaGoth 10-30-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2156955)
Well, the Wings lost in the shoot out. They always seem to lose those things. Still, given that it was 4-0 and 5-1 at one point, I will gladly take the point.


Filppula out for 8 weeks with a broken wrist. This season is quickly turning into a lost cause.

Dr. Sak 10-30-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2156743)
Sak, is there something I am missing? I know Gagne might be hitting LTIR, but that shouldn't effect Jones.


Gagne could be done for the year. Plus the Flyers are at 49 contracts, so they couldn't really sign anyone now because they'd be at 50 and not be able to make any more deals.

It was a chance they took, I'm not really worried because with Gagne's money gone that'll more than make up for Jones' loss of cap space. They have caps space and it isn't like there is a FA out there or even a trade out there that will next the Flyers someone over 4 million.

I am not happy with this but not really upset.

Honolulu_Blue 10-30-2009 11:56 AM

Edmonton people.

Do you guys know who was doing the color or play-by-play for the Edmonton v. Colorado game the other night?

One of the two kept doing these god awful puns. Over and over again with this horrible delivery. Who was that? He needed to be punched. Hard.

Travis 10-30-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2157184)
Edmonton people.

Do you guys know who was doing the color or play-by-play for the Edmonton v. Colorado game the other night?

One of the two kept doing these god awful puns. Over and over again with this horrible delivery. Who was that? He needed to be punched. Hard.


I'm assuming you're referring to Craig MacTavish's illegitimate son, Gene Principe.

And yes, Princess needs to be put removed, permanently. We've been putting up with his crap for entirely too long around here. He's a ridiculous moron who is only entertaining when he interviews Dustin Penner because Penner will pretty much tell him how much of an idiot he is without Principe really catching on to the fact that he's getting verbally assaulted.

Travis 10-30-2009 12:15 PM

Dola, and if it wasn't Principe (as he usually doesn't do color or PbP, just segments during periods/interviews with coaches on the bench/etc), well I probably just don't notice this other guy because he would pale in comparison to the train wreck that is Princess every time he's on the mic.

Honolulu_Blue 10-30-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 2157190)
I'm assuming you're referring to Craig MacTavish's illegitimate son, Gene Principe.

And yes, Princess needs to be put removed, permanently. We've been putting up with his crap for entirely too long around here. He's a ridiculous moron who is only entertaining when he interviews Dustin Penner because Penner will pretty much tell him how much of an idiot he is without Principe really catching on to the fact that he's getting verbally assaulted.


I think it was him. Almost positive now.

It was awful. So very, very bad.

Ron MacLean delivers witty puns at the end of Coach's Corner that are generally amusing. Gene Principe's puns aren't just bad, his delivery is awful.

DeToxRox 10-30-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2157049)
Filppula out for 8 weeks with a broken wrist. This season is quickly turning into a lost cause.


Eh, if you think a team with Dats, Z and Lidstrom can't sustain at least a 6-8 seed pace until they're healthy I dunno what to tell you.

Wings should have everyone back for the playoffs, and if that's the case, I don't care where they're seeded, they will be able to do damage if they play their game.

RomaGoth 10-30-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2157246)
Eh, if you think a team with Dats, Z and Lidstrom can't sustain at least a 6-8 seed pace until they're healthy I dunno what to tell you.

Wings should have everyone back for the playoffs, and if that's the case, I don't care where they're seeded, they will be able to do damage if they play their game.


I would tend to agree with you if we had decent goaltending. Howard looks awful most nights and ditto for Osgood. We don't have the scoring like last year to cover up defensive/goaltending mistakes, and it is showing.

Pyser 10-30-2009 01:57 PM

hahaha, way to have faith in your STAR STUDDED BEEN AWESOME FOR 15 YEARS TEAM, romagoth

try looking around the league and think about how good you have it. season a lost cause? calm down, brother.

Travis 10-30-2009 02:06 PM

Any chance the Wings give the Canadiens a call about a goalie?

DeToxRox 10-30-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 2157289)
Any chance the Wings give the Canadiens a call about a goalie?


I think our best option for a backup right now is Daniel Larsson who is currently the starter in Grand Rapids. It seems like he was the better of the tandem he had with Howard up there last year and might make the most sense to try.

Ozzy is the goalie though, so we'll see how that works.

Suburban Rhythm 10-30-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2157079)
Gagne could be done for the year. Plus the Flyers are at 49 contracts, so they couldn't really sign anyone now because they'd be at 50 and not be able to make any more deals.

It was a chance they took, I'm not really worried because with Gagne's money gone that'll more than make up for Jones' loss of cap space. They have caps space and it isn't like there is a FA out there or even a trade out there that will next the Flyers someone over 4 million.

I am not happy with this but not really upset.


I saw that about Gagne, but I don't see how that would affect or necessitate recalling Jones, other than, if a move is coming to get a replacement for Gagne, that would have been contract #50.

In which case, don't you dump a guy making $500K and eat that contract before you eat $1.375?

As far as salary cap space, I don't believe it's a dollar for dollar opening to replace Gagne. This is the best I could find.

http://nhlscap.com/cap_faq.htm#calc_cap

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LONG-TERM INJURIES
A player is considered to have a bona-fide long-term injury if, in the opinion of the team, the player has an injury which will cause him to miss at least 10 games and 24 days. Even in such cases, the player's salary will continue to count against the team's Upper Limit. This is mentioned at least three times in the CBA, and is repeated in Article 50.10(a):
All Player Salary and Bonuses paid to Players on an NHL Active Roster, Injured Reserve or Non Roster that are Unfit to Play – being either injured or suffering from an illness – shall be counted against a Club's Upper Limit, Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary, as well as against the Players' Share.
For players that the team has filed an LTI exception, the team is allowed to exceed the cap by up to the amount of the injured player's salary with as many replacement players as needed, provided that when the injured player is activated the team comes into compliance with the cap immediately. The team does not get to automatically tack on the amount of the injured player's salary to the Upper Limit - an example as illustrated in Article 50.10(d) of the CBA illustrates this point:
(a)Illustration: A Player with a Player Salary of $1.5 million becomes unfit to play for more than 24 days and 10 games. At the time the Player becomes unfit to play, the Club has an Averaged Club Salary of $39.5 million, and the Upper Limit is $40 million. The Club may replace the unfit-to-play Player with another Player of Players with an aggregate Player Salary and Bonuses of up to $1.5 million. The first $500,000 of such replacement salary and bonuses shall count toward the Club's Average Club Salary, bringing the Averaged Club Salary to the Upper Limit. The Club may then exceed the Upper Limit by up to another $1 million as a result of the replacement salary and bonuses. However, if the unfit-to-play Player once again becomes fit to play, and the Club has not otherwise created any Payroll Room during the interim period, then the Player shall not be permitted to rejoin the Club until such time as the Club reduces its Averaged Club Salary to below the Upper Limit.


So, what I get from that is #1 better be certain they are shutting down Gagne for the season before making a move and #2 the replacement player won't be making $5M, or whatever Gagne's salary is

Does JVR get that spot for now?

MikeVic 10-30-2009 04:13 PM

I thought Osgood was a Hall of Fame goalie or something?

(;) )

Galaxy 10-30-2009 09:07 PM

Rather crappy game by the Sabres. Thank god Miller played great and Toronto left their brains at home with all the dumb penalties.


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