Im not really disappointed the wolves got rid of Miller and Foye but I do think this is a great trade for Washington in that Foye fits in nicely with what they have.

Gilbert
Foye/Miller
Butler
Jamison

is a very strong foundation.

Brewer and Foye were considered really good prospects when they came out.

Could it be that the problem isn't the players but the inability of the T-Wolves to develop their talent?

Is there anyone who is even going to pretend to play defense in Washington next season? If you are advocating that they don't need to be because they are going to score on everyone with an uptempo attack, then who is playing point guard for them?

I think this team is hot garbage.

There is no chance Thabeet is there at 5. You pretty much have to get up to 2 to get Thabeet. Since no other players are really differentiated from one another (i.e. lots of guards available) Thabeet is the second most valuable commodity in this draft. He'll go second.

At least I hope they want a point guard, cause that's what they're getting at 5.

Unless its Harden. It really could be Harden. And then a PG at 6.

That's what I'm hoping for. A lot of the rumors I've read had the Wolves trading for the 5th pick so they could package it to try and move up to 2.

Well I don't think that they were all that good at it when Randy Wittman was the coach, neither one of those two was destined for stardom. Brewer's ceiling is a role player on defense, he came into t he NBA not having the fundamentals of dribbling or passing down, if he hadn't learned those things by the age of 22 I'm not gonna put him down as someone that wasn't developed by his pro coaches. Taking him at 7 was an unbelievable reach, especially with the players he was picked ahead of the the needs Minnesota had. With Foye the only mistake was not realizing they had the better player in Roy and leaving it at that. Foye doesn't have the shooting ability or skill to score inside to be a great scorer, and if any coach out there can teach him to be an effective point guard or better distributor as a 2 then I'll be surprised.

Are the Celtics really going to trade Rondo? Lots of smoke here, whether it's to PHX for Amare, DET in that package, or MEM for Gay/Conley. Ainge on WEEI this morning questioning his maturity.

The kid has no jump shot, but other than that he's pretty great. Interesting times.

Sports Guy was saying that the chemistry problems relating to him are starting to become bigger, and they may be trying to pawn him off before he fully busts out and everyone knows about them.

I was gonna post the same thing Logan just did... Simmons says there has to be something behind the scenes otherwise it doesn't make sense.

interesting

if you trade him you've got zero PG though, and you have no first round pick to use on one. so you gotta have a plan for that.

Simmons and Chad Ford were talking about a Tony Parker/Rondo trade scenario too.

On SOSH they're masturbating over some scenario where Rondo becomes the #2 and that pick and Allen become Chris Paul and all NO's bad contracts.

The Celtics could just sign the corpse of Jason Kidd, and he'd be solid for the next 2 years.

LOL

From Rotoworld:

That makes it sound like they're just trying to give Rondo a wake-up call. There's no other reason Ainge would publically criticize a player he's trying to move.

Latest Rondo rumor I've seen floated around I find far more interesting. Rondo+Scalabrini+JR Giddens for Mike Conley and Rudy Gay. Gay becomes the uber 6th man to rest PP and Ray Ray while logging starter mins. They keep Ray's expiring deal and have far more financial flexibility.

More and more smoke.

Edit: sorry guys posted from my bberry, didn't see all the Rondo talk already.

Rondo plays like a bitch so it's not a surprise he acts like one in the locker room. As others have said, there has to be some big issues behind the scenes to be so willing to unload a good young PG like him.

That trade makes absolutely no sense for Memphis. So it's probably done already.

It'd be a money move I'm guessing. They get to build a team around Rondo and Mayo while potentially bringing in a free agent in 2010.

I would argue that the move doesn't make sense for Boston. Rondo was their best player in the playoffs most of the time. In a league where quick point guards are huge, it eliminates one of the best. I think it puts a lot more pressure on the aging Pierce and Allen. Gay would certainly help but who knows how he'll react in a more pressure filled situation.

Shaq to Cleveland for Big Ben and Pavlovic is being reported on ESPN. I know that move has been talked about in the past but supposedly it is now just awaiting ownership approval.

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I can't wait to see Howard abuse Shaq next season. The Suns never should have hired Kerr.

With Crawford rumored to be traded to ATL shortly if Mike Bibby is willing to take the MLE he could end up in Boston allowing them to move Rondo for whatever they want without having to get a PG in return.

Now I don't know if Bibby or Kidd would go for the MLE - my guess is they wouldn't want to but I don't know if ATL would want Bibby back now. Obviously the Mavs want to keep Kidd so he'll get paid but the Hawks would have Crawford and Joe Johnson so what do they do with Bibby?

the nba trading system and salary-dump trades really fuck with my enjoyment of the league.

That's one of the reasons I don't mind baseball's economic system so much even if that also has its faults.

The problem for Memphis is it isn't a place most NBA players want to go to. Even with cap room they're not going to land Wade, Lebron, or Bosh. They can land a 2nd tier star such as Rashard Lewis with a max deal and that's probably their limit. Gay has the potential to be just that type of player and Conley looked solid the last couple months of the season.

From Boston's perspective, if they don't plan on resigning Rondo and he's as big of a headache as reported then they're landing a guy that would instantly be one of the top 6th men in the league and a young, pass first point guard that was a top 5 pick just 2 years ago.

After the Gasol trade it seemed they had decided to blow things up and just start over. Everyone ripped them for the trade, but at least it seemed like they had a direction in mind. Now just a year and half later they're starting over again by trading two starters that are ages 22 and 21.

Shaq-fu beeyatches!

Too bad this was 6 months too late to matter.

Not that it would have anyways.

The carcass of shaq at 20m for the carcass of Ben Wallace(14m) and the dumb euro guy Pavs(who will be bought out)

I guess I'm glad I won't have to see Sasha anymore.

dola-
The Cavs just threw another 10m on the luxury tax pile, I'm guessing the cheap seats will be more like 60-70 instead of 30-40.

Whats the story with this Rubio? Is he really worthy of the 2nd overall pick the Twolves are willing to trade up for? Seems kind of slow footed and from what I hear hes not a good pull up shooter. Sure hes 18 but Europeans flop on a consistent basis. Are we sure McHale has really left the team? Id love for them to come out of this draft with Thabeet, DeRozen and Ty Lawson. Of course that will never happen but with DeRozen and Thabeet they be instantly a talented defensive team if nothing else.

I don't follow the college game at all, and the recruiting etc.

When's the next time we'll see an "it" legit franchise type player available in the draft? I'm sure Griffin will probably be good, but we're talking a, what, 20-10 max guy.

Is the next big thing even on the radar yet...that's basically what I'm asking.

Don't really have a legit answer for ya, but I'll say this--there were only two 20-10 guys in the league this past season, and only five more within 18-8.

If Griffin comes anywhere close to 20-10 in the next three seasons, I as a Clips fan will be ecstatic.

I can only think that they feel Rondo is a franchise player who will be one of the top 3-5 point guards in the league. That in the deal, they would be ending up with the best player. That Rondo has the talent that you can build a team around, and due to him not being a bigger name, he'll probably be willing to sign in Memphis long term and be their star. With that in place, plus Thabeet and a high pick or free agent next year, they could be a young playoff team.

I don't necessarily agree with that, but I don't think the trade is horrible. Conley is OK at PG. Gay is a good player but not someone who is capable of leading a team.

But it's Memphis and they'll surely make the stupid moves. This is the team who is passing on Rubio for Thabeet.

Rubio is not as quick as PGs today but has better ball handling than most point guards in the league right now. He is a pass first point guard who has experience playing in big games against big stars. I think the talk of his shooting is overblown as not many 18 year olds have a good shot when coming into the draft. He'll get that as he develops. He's also got good size.

I think you have to take him at #2. Not just for the potential he has, but for the buzz he'd create for the franchise. Memphis is beyond stupid for passing up on him.

I agree 20-10 is vastly underrated at this point.

Agree with your comments, but the only problem i see with him signing for Memphis is that he has already stated he doesn't want to go there, so i guess Memphis could be scared of picking him at #2 and then Rubio deciding to stay in Spain, specially when he needs to pay $6M to break his contract with his current team (it should be lowered to half that after the lawsuit they are into).

While the buyout is big, it's not as big as wasting a year. With the way salaries are structured, players just need to get in quickly so they can build up their time toward free agency. Going back to Spain for a year just means one more year he'll have to wait for the big payday (as well as another year for teams to find weaknesses in his game). If he refuses to play for Memphis, do they lose the rights for him next year and he goes back into the draft?

From what I've been reading, he's been a bitch about the whole process. Doesn't want to play in Memphis or OKC and has made some comments about how Minnesota is too cold for his mom.

I have a feeling he ends up in Sacramento.

There's a ton of speculation on the Rockets board that the Rox are going to trade TMac and Aaron Brooks for Amare Stoudamire and an expensive body (Barbosa is the most commonly seen name). Then they would use Carl Landry as trade bait to move up in the draft to get a PG to replace Brooks...

Arles, are y'all hearing anything like that out your way?

But, tv analysts who have never worked in an NBA front office usually make GREAT general managers.

Note: if you trade for Mike Conley, you absolutely, positively, do not lose quickness. You may lose playing ability and a rudimentary understanding of the game, but not quickness.

You mean where all the salary dumps go to a handful of teams who can afford them?

SI

Yeah, so it's a down year for the draft. But LeBron doesn't come around every year and last I checked, most teams could use a guy who can clean the glass and score at the same time. Not only that but he's NBA ready and you have a better idea of his ceiling/floor. The jury's out on whether he's someone you can completely build a franchise around but he sure as hell can be a quality 2nd or 3rd piece to the puzzle at least.

SI

I was reading Morey's quotes in the Chronicle where he seems dead set about wanting to move into this draft and I just don't understand it. It's a weak draft so why trade something that is useful (rotation player for 2009-10) for something that isn't so much (a mid-late 1st round draft pick in a weak draft).

If they're trading TMac, does that mean they're planning to keep Artest? Unless they can get a contract they can walk away from back in return, they can't lose both of those guys and replace all that scoring. Their biggest need is still PG and I'd be content with a distributor and defender there, but unless they have some magic way to get CP3- I don't see them replacing those points.

I guess I understand getting Stoudamire- he's a quality PF, but, again, isn't the biggest need the Rockets have, it's PG. I'm content with the Scola/Landry PF combo- they're not great but they're cheap and can get the job done

Then again, I also saw the little blurb about Yao still not being healed yet. If he's not going to be right next year, I guess planning for 09-10 isn't that important.

SI

Ok, so Dallas trades #22 to Portland for #24, #56, and their worst 2nd next year.

...Why?

#56 and a similar pick next year are worthless- guys drafted that low hardly ever make a team, particularly for a veteran squad like Dallas where most of the team is set.

SI

You rarely see anything as lopsided as the Gasol to the Lakers trade in baseball in terms of how it affects the teams on the field/court. But that doesn't mean baseball doesn't have other problems.

Gasol to the Lakers was the primary one that I was thinking of (along with this Shaq-thing)

One possibility is that if you think the same calibur player is at 24 then he's cheaper plus you're getting two free swings at players. True, neither is likely to ever see the NBA but the picks aren't guaranteed contracts or would be cheap players they could stick in the NBDL if they think they have some potential. Unless there's really a guy you want at 22 and he's gone by 24 then there's really not much downside to the deal.

Well the Grizz did get Marc Gasol and a couple 1st round picks - not enough to make it a fair trade value wise but at least they got something.

On that note I don't know what Cleveland is thinking here. You don't need a 37 year old 300lb man to defend Howard - the Lakers did a pretty nice job with out one in the Finals. Cleveland could have taken that junk and addressed a need - like a legitimate 2nd scorer like Michael Redd or perhaps someone who can defend a perimiter playing PF. That's one terrible organization there - how do you not unload Szcerbiak's contract for something last season when you could have made this same Shaq deal then? Why Shaq now? So you hope he stays healthy an entire season just to split minutes with Z? Why is Mike Brown still coaching this team? I can't imagine why LeBron would consider leaving this debacle.

It's really hard being a fan Gary, I agree it's a borderline debacle.

No way I make the trade for Shaq Fu now, not when I can get a much better player with those contracts.

I don't think that 70 year old Shaq is who you think he is.

I agree - the team was a disaster and with one player you've been within reach of the championship. In 12 months there's a chance this franchise goes right back to the bottom of the league. It's an absolute shame that in his time there LeBron has been surrounded with a joke of a front office and head coach as well as not one single fairly young player with the potential of being a long-time solid #2 option to LeBron.

I don't see how this trade does anything but push LeBron out the door. If you win and its attributed to Shaq's help then LeBron knows an even older Shaq may not even be back so the team isn't any better plus he delivered the city a title so he can leave knowing he brought that home. If they don't win then LeBron can see that all they gave him was an old Shaq and leave because the organization isn't serious about getting in long term players to build with.

They better do whatever it takes to make another move to bring in someone who might actually help them win it this year and be there to continue winning in the future.

I like the Shaq trade IF they still get a second legitimate scorer, like a Redd.

this is true - and as a celtics fan this doesn't make Cleveland any scarier. In fact, by Shaq taking minutes away from Big Z all you're going to do is clog the paint for when LeBron drives. Big Z was ideal for LeBron because he's a jump shooter and he pulls the interior D out of the paint, thus opening holes for LeBron to drive. Shaq does no such thing.

You could make the argument that by doing that and removing the defense+gritty play of wallace+sasha (role players though they were) this is a step back

I think its an admission that they know he has no interest in resigning with them. If he was, he'd have signed a max extension already. They know they have exactly one year to try to win a championship.

Cleveland is stupid for getting/going after Shaq. I think it is a big step backwards for them.

Was listening to an interview of a 'NBA draft expert' on local KC radio. He said that the Mavericks are targeting DeMarre Carroll with the 24th pick. They traded down a couple of spots to pick up some extra picks while still being in a spot where Carroll should be still available (most project him at the end of 1st round). Of course, this all depends on if he's selected sooner (doubtful) or if a better player slides down the board to them (possible).

Shaq clogging the lanes certainly didn't seem to hurt D-Wade. And when LeBron drives and the defense converges, there'll be no hope of stopping even 70 yr old Shaq when LeBron gets him the ball at the hoop.

I think that's a great point on Z being able to step out and free the lane and a whole host of other problems that go with this.

What do you do with Varejao now? Let him walk? How do you play him and Shaq at the same time? At least with Z, Varejao can post and Z can step out. He's going to want big money - what reason is there to pay him that kind of dough now?

Cleveland still doesn't have a great three point shooting threat. The fact that the other defenders can sag off perimeter players to either help on the drive or rotate to take away the passing lane to Shaq is a factor too.

Columnist Peter Vescey's NBA sources indicate the Rockets are "leaning toward" trading Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa and Amare Stoudemire.

Stoudemire has been disgruntled in Phoenix for a while now, and ESPN's Ric Bucher reported on Thursday that he will indeed be traded. The Suns would acquire two solid young players in Landry and Brooks, while gaining financial flexibility with T-Mac's expiring $22 million contract. So far nothing is official, but stay tuned throughout what promises to be a hectic draft day.

Houston would rock if they could swing that deal and re-sign Artest.

What the hell is the point in making picks 6-30 of Chad Ford's mock draft only available to insider users?

I chuckled when I saw that, too. I can't imagine that there is one person who thought to themselves, "well, I've been on the fence about Insider, but seeing who gets taken at pick #23 is worth paying for it."

I guess the theory is that picks 1-5 are the teaser. But, for 95% of the people who care about the NBA draft, it is more than a teaser. It is the whole story.

Just a strange decision to break it up like that. Either make the whole thing insider, like they do for Kiper, or make it general. Although I guess ESPN knows what they are doing based on the insane amount of $$ that they have made. Who I am to give them business advice?

Im not certain it is such a horrible deal for Cleveland. They didnt give up anything and Shaq was pretty good on the offensive end last year. Shaq can up his defense when he needs to and I really doubt Howard is going to be able to bully him. Shaq can also open up the outside a little more and is a very good passer that will create shots for Gibson and Wally.(if he stays)

This will also give Cleveland a low post threat which they have been lacking. Big Z is anything but a low post threat.

I'd probably let Andy walk, unless he settles for a 3-4 year deal starting at 6m MAX. He's not worth much more than the MLE.

And he's been one of my favorite players, at least until the stupid hold out in 2007

Not a bad deal for Cleveland at all. They have a one year window. That's it. Chances are LBJ isn't coming back so go for it now because it's going to be a dark, dark period coming up for Cleveland after this season.

Knicks bought the Lakers' 29th overall pick for $3 million. ESPN says they're looking for a guard at that slot, but maybe a little extra ammo for a trade into the 6th/7th spot?

What's the reasoning behind LeBron leaving? I mean, I understand "big markets", but he's also a hometown boy who has a fanbase completed devoted to him. In addition, he's already a huge national sports presence - not like being in New York is really going to make him MORE famous nationally. I assume he gets more local advertising contracts, but is the money for those so huge as to make him basically have to leave even if he wanted to stay in Cleveland?

Well it's easier to attract other FA to New York or other big markets then it is a place like Cleveland or Detroit. Plus New York is building a team right now for LeBron and there is a better then good chance Chris Bosh is going to join him wherever he goes. Add in one of the better Head Coaches in the NBA who has a working relationship with and New York seems like a dream destination.

He said he wants to be the first billion dollar athlete as well. He will get a lot more chances for that in NY then Cleveland.

An inept front office and head coach might have something to do with it to.

Its been estimated since he entered the league that his value as an endorser is worth $100 million more in New York or LA than it is in Cleveland.

Can you trade picks for cash in the NBA? didn't know.

For up to $3 million. The Suns did it several years in a row, I believe, when they were deluded that they were close to a championship.

No, the Lakers will still have to make the pick. The Knicks will just have to trade the appropriate amount of salary fodder and send a nice check to the Lakers - at least I think that's the case anyways.

The Celtics bought Rondo from the Suns.

DeRozen seems like a freakish athlete. I havent actually seen much of him play, seemed to disappear in USC games I watched. What do those of you that have seen him play a lot think of his game? He seems like one of the few players that could actually be a star in this draft based on his skill set.

I wish they couldnt! The Twolves traded Roy similiar to this method and it pi$$ed me off. They initially drafted Roy ahead of Foye but then promptly traded him for Foye and some cash considerations.

This is the first NBA draft i'm going to watch live, I'm really curious about Rubio's future. I'm pretty sure he will end in the Kings or Thunder, but Spanish websites have him rumored to go to the Knicks or even Celtics (i don't believe that one).

Btw, I have seen that it starts at EST 7:30PM, but... does it really start at that time or is there a lot of ceremony stuff before the clock starts?

Sounds like the Kings are gonna pass on Rubio. Or so reports Yahoo. I don't see Rubio falling past either of Minnesotas picks.

The Kings allegedly are saying they would pass on him but I don't know if I buy that - the biggest rumor right now with Rubio is the Thunder take him to trade him to the Knicks for David Lee in a sign and trade. Minnesota may still try to get to #2 to get him but Memphis wants Love and 5 or 6 and that won't (or at least shouldn't) happen

Im pretty sure they just buy it outright.

As national as our economy is, I just don't get this. Why would Nike pay him more if he was playing for the Knicks or Lakers? He's in the same league, making the same playoffs, getting the same national exposure. Tiger Woods seems plenty valuable without being a New York or LA athlete...

In looking it up the draft pick's trade value is $0 until he signs a contract so I think what has to happen is that LA actually makes the pick for the Knicks and then trades the rights to the pick for cash to NY and then NY signs the player.

As a semi-Knick fan I would sign for that in a second. Lee is a very good player but won't be worth the money he gets.

I agree. Lee does a lot of things well but is not worth a #2 in any draft. If he played better defense he probably would be.

This could get interesting as from what I can tell Memphis or Sacremento have no interest in Rubio and Okl City just drafted Westbrooke last year so I doubt they really want to take another PG. I really hope the wolves dont have to trade up to get the guy they want but it never seems to work that way for that franchise.

Because there are more NY/LA fans with more money that will buy the merchandise because he plays in their city.

I used to live for the NBA draft. Now I don't even get a halfie....stupid Clay Bennett etc. al.

this type of thing baffles me too. i can understand it with athletes that are not global superstars, but for your Jordan's, your Tiger Woods', etc. it really doesn't seem to matter.

The only thing it will mean is more Knicks games on TV, which means more advertising dollars for the networks, but LeBron doesn't see any of that.

Little cheaper to have #24 in the draft. Plus 2nd rounders are commodities as they aren't guaranteed.

The Bulls bought Luol Deng from the Suns. I always wondered how good that team could have been had they kept their first round picks.

Rubio falling to the T-Wolves would be a godsend for them. They'd have the makings of a nice core and would garner some interest. It's be one of the teams I'd look forward to seeing come to Chicago to play.

Cuban also Tweeted that he felt they could get the guy they wanted at 24, so assuming he's right, he picks up a couple of shots on the roulette wheel at no cost.

Looks like this is right.

For example,

"Portland acquired the draft rights to 27th pick Sergio Rodríguez from Phoenix in exchange for cash considerations."

But Rodriguez is listed as being drafted by Phoenix. I thought they sold the picks, but it looks like they make the pick and then sell the rights. A technicality, they are in effect selling the picks.


Nope, the Suns paid cash to get rid of him:

Boston acquired the draft rights to 21st pick Rajon Rondo, Brian Grant and cash considerations from Phoenix in exchange for a 2007 first-round draft pick.



Well, the national media is based in NY and LA, so I happen to think that he'll get more national exposure by being there than he does now. As for having a dedicated following in Cleveland, so what? He has more fans RIGHT NOW in NY than he does in Cleveland. Add in the fact that its easier to charge $150 for a pair of shoes in NY than in Cleveland, and I can see where he's way more valuable in NY than Cleveland.


I think he's going to be the bust of the year from what I can tell, his asset is passing and court vision. He has a horrendous shot. That passing and court vision won't look so impressive once everyone figures out he can't get around anyone on his own. I just don't read anything that indicates NBA skills here.

I agree with you that he'll make his way down to a stunned Minnesota.

The draft WILL go like this:
1) Griffin - duh
2) Thabeet - only big man in a big man hungry league
3) Steven Curry
4) Tyreke Evans
5/6) Rubio & Jordan Hill
7) James Harden
8) Johnny Flynn
9) DeMar DeRozen
10) Brandon Jennings
11) Tyler Hansbrough
12) Terrence Williams
13) Jrue Holliday

In the NBA, all if these trades you're hearing about really aren't official until, hell I don't know when. So, when you hear about these trades for picks, etc, the team who holds the pick originally drafts the player the other team wants. Then, whenever the day is, all of these trades become official and you see players being traded for each other, not traded for picks.

I think I have that right. Tell me to shut up if it's not.

I read yesterday that there's a time limit on when traded picks can be officially made by the receiving team...something like if its finalized by noon on draft day, any later and they need to put on the charade.

Mike D'Antoni had to talk Steve Kerr and Dave Griffin into making the Shaq deal. Neither wanted to do it. Kerr's been in a tough spot as the first thing he was told by the owner was to shave off $10 million from the salary while still being competitive. So, he had to move Kurt Thomas to Seattle (OKC now) for a trade exception and give them 2 first round picks. He was then told by his coach (Mike D) that the only shot they had at a playoff run was trading Marion for Shaq. Granted, he could have said no, but these were both in his first season as GM. These next two seasons will let us know how good a GM Kerr is.

Now it looks like both Oberto and Bowen may be coming back to SA in a few months. What a joke the NBA is if Jefferson, Oberto and Bowen are on SA's roster come October. But, the NBA trading system is ridiculous, so it shouldn't really surprise anyone. I'm guessing Pop isn't going to be quite as interested in the "trade approval board" if he ends up with Jefferson and 2 of the 3 guys he traded for him as he was when the Lakers added Gasol a few seasons back.

Anything's possible. I haven't heard of a straight salary dump for Amare and I doubt they do that with the cash they saved from moving Shaq. I could see Amare getting moved, but they would need more than a net of Aaron Brooks (esp if Barbosa goes as well). I think Amare stays as no one will be willing to offer what Phoenix wants.

One thing to think about is if Phoenix makes the #14 for #25 and their own pick in 2010 deal with OK City, you may see Amare dumped as well. That will be a clear indication they plan on sucking next season ;)

Another Amare rumor:

The Suns are in discussions with the Warriors to send Amare Stoudemire to Golden State for center Andris Biedrins and the No. 7 pick in Thursday's draft.

I could see that one more than the Houston one. But I'm not sure how the salaries work.

Vince Carter may get moved to Orlando for Alston, Battie and Lee:

Sources: New Jersey Nets to ship Vince Carter to Orlando Magic for Rafer Alston - ESPN

There goes me liking Orlando.

I like Lee and have never been a Carter fan but if Turkoglu resigns that will make a pretty nice starting five. I didn't know anything about Anderson but looking at his stats he seems like a decent rebounder and shooter who is 6'10''.

The ESPN.com trade machine says this is good for +7 wins next year so I'll focus on that instead of my dislike of Vince Carter. At least he only has two years left on his contract. With no Battie and Gortat likely on his way they'll have to get another big man at some point.

Hawks get Jamal Crawford (and a promise he won't exercise his out clause for two years) from the Warriors in return for Speedy Claxton & Acie Law.