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I will never understand why he wouldn't just put out a massive rescue package. The guy doesn't care about the deficit. He could have pumped a trillion right into people's hands and made this race close.
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Huh. I must have heard wrong then. I could have sworn she was there as well. So much going on in the last few days, it's getting hard to keep up haha! |
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Because he can't. It is in his best interest, but it is not in the congressional GOP's best interest. And he is pretty much beholden to them. He is an incredibly weak President behind the scenes. He lacks the sense to really understand what is going on. And, even if he did, he lacks the juice to make them do it. |
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Pretty much, McConnell is the one running the country |
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Dola Fixed that for myself |
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I don't know, he has a cult following. Trump starts putting constant pressure and they would crack like an egg. He got them all to flip from free trade they've been touting for decades to protectionist in a couple years. |
If my largely rural Facebook feed is any indication, over the last 48 hours or so, a bunch of Republicans have suddenly realized that Trump is very likely going to lose the election.
And they are not happy about it. Lots of "end of life as we know it" rhetoric. It's not quite vagina hats on the Mall, but I suspect we'll get there. |
So this popped up when it was accidentally tweeted by their account. Is this a placeholder "just in case"? Or do they know something that they are just trying to officially confirm?
PREP. DO NOT PUBLISH UNTIL THE NEWS CROSSES. Vice President Mike Pence Tests Positive For Coronavirus 8 Days After Donald Trump – Deadline |
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Vagina hats will invade their fields in victory! |
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Is it like "there are a lot of stupid blue Americans who are going to vote out Trump" or "the Dems are going to steal the election"? SI |
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I know that trying to drill down to the logic of it all is a fool's errand. But I'm kind of foolish, so I will ask. These people said the same thing about Obama. And then things were pretty good for 8 years. How do they explain that? They didn't lose their guns. Abortions didn't spring up everywhere. The blacks and the gays didn't take over. The economy grew. The deficit shrunk. The Muslims didn't take over. Health care became more accessible and cheaper. Like, do they even acknowledge that the same people telling them that the world will end were 100% wrong about the same thing just 4 years ago? |
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Little bit of both, to be honest. But the majority in my neck of the woods seems to be "stupid people can't see what's obviously best for this country"...but, of course, the Dem leadership in Washington is rigging it. Expecting that rigging elections is just what politicians do is par for the course. Trump being President has nothing to do with the default Indiana setting that government is full of lying, cheating bastards. |
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It's about the incremental erosion. There's always the hope that 4 or 8 years from now, there'll be another great conservative (white) hope who will snatch us back from the edge of destruction. I've seen lots of posts today about the Dems giving statehood to DC and PR to stack the Senate, then expanding the Supreme Court to stack that...and before you know it, we'll have a one party government and that'll be the end of America. Which tells me that there's some niggling (NIGGLING, ya fuckin' racists) suspicion in their minds that America has spent 4 years getting an eyeball full of their ideal American experiment, and yes, we're about done with your bullshit. There is no silent majority of conservative citizens waiting in the wings to re-inaugurate the 1980s. |
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About the only things I'd like to bring back from the 80s is housing prices and my hair. But seriously, it's amazing how hard it is for people to accept progress and it's probably lost on them how much their day to day life has improved by progresses in society and technology over the last couple of decades. Don't get me wrong, not all progress can be considered good and I can get a serious case of nostalgia now and then myself, but, man, the disconnect is unbelievable with these people. They need to get out more, see the world, try new foods and meet new people. |
That or they need to get offline and stop watching the tv so they don't have to see blacks and browns and gays at all.
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Or atheists.
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They would probably be bored to death if they lost all of their boogymen. |
We don't have atheists in Indiana. Just people who haven't been saved yet.
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Well, at least they are optimistic. :D |
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Bet the Venn diagram of these people and people who cheered when Trump suggested removing term limits is a perfect circle. |
The President's doctor has now cleared him to return to the campaign trail on Saturday. Trump people now want that in person town hall back. They are refusing to say he has had a negative test.
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Who knew there were so many shitty doctors working for the military?
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Every veteran who goes to the VA hospitals? |
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Oh you would be surprised. If it wasn't for motrin, there'd be no need for a lot of them. |
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So what's with this 25th amendment bill with Pelosi? Isn't the safe play right now to let Trump doom spiral his way to Election Day and win in a rout with him dragging the GOP down, keeping the House and taking the Senate?
He's talking about going back to the table for stimulus talks. That can't be bad if you really want to govern for the next 2 or 4 years (though there's always the talk about negotiating like him being like building on sand). Does it delay the Supreme Court hearing? Like enough to matter? To say nothing about how if we would even know if he had more erratic behavior than any other time in his Presidency? I guess maybe this is a "blood in the water" thing...? Ultimately, don't you risk the election being about the 25th Amendment, Pence, and Trump's stolen Presidency instead of a pandemic that he completely bungled and an economy that tanked because of it? Or is this just about stealing another news cycle or two before Election Day, trying to run out the clock? Or just piss off Donny into doing something even more crazy as he's backed into a corner? Can anyone here connect the political dots for me? SI |
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I feel the same way. I don't understand it at all. |
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They don't think they were wrong. They think the immigration problem (they would say crisis) has gotten worse, that race relations were damaged by Obama, that he undermined the police and law & order, the Constitution itself, etc. A lot of it is just seeing the same facts differently. I.e. on health care they view that as a step backwards, a loss of liberty, continued progress towards government over-reach, European-style socialism lite, apologized for America non-stop, had a feckless foreign policy, and so forth. They definitely don't see the Obama years as pretty good. As has been discussed here before, a non-trivial number of them viewed Obama as a larger threat than ISIS. Even those who didn't largely would have taken anyone over him. Which is part of the reason why we got Trump. |
A significant number of these people are also absolute morons who want the government to stay out of medicare/medicaid and/or think Joe Biden's voting record from the '80s is a bigger threat to their SS benefits than Trump eliminating the payroll tax entirely.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks dumb to me. |
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Just to continue with this thought, I'm certain that the bottom of the left's barrel is also full of ignorant morons, there's obviosuly plenty to go around...but crucially the Democrats' platform and policies are not historically built around fooling a significant part of their base into voting against their fundamental interests. Conservatives have tried to make the argument that several of the longtime progressive/welfare policies only end-up contributing to poverty & discrimination, but that is surely a whole different story than an entrenched part of the Republican base being too ignorant to understand that the party's purposely confusing policies & rhetoric directly conflict with their interests. |
The article has lots of stats at the beginning on the shift away but thought the rationale was interesting especially the last paragraph below. Exhaustion certainly applies to me.
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I think the GOP line of, old people should stop holding the country back and risk dieing plays some part.
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Yeah I don't get the 25th amendment stuff either. The one big thing they have over Trump is his continued push to invalidate the election results, then they do this. I've seen theories that they know something - Pence was called back to DC and they're going to do something and that's why Pelosi is taking this position. Clear fantasy. It's just a bad political move that can only hurt.
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I want to stress this upfront. Based on what I have seen from the investigation so far, I don't think that this was the case. However, remembering the imagery of those Michigan statehouse protests back in the spring led me to check to see if investigators found any evidence that those protests might have actually doubled as reconnaissance missions. Again, I am not making accusations or trying to devalue the the concerns of that day. I am just telling where my head went when I first heard this story yesterday given how I felt during that time and everything that has gone on since. |
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I saw an interview with the Michigan AG yesterday and she confirmed the guys in the plots were part of those protests and they believe they actually were recruiting additional folks there. She didn't mention reconnaissance but I'm assuming that was a given. |
The very quick response to the plot by the MI Senate leader has a bit more nuance to it now that there are pictures of him sharing a stage with a couple of the plotters at a lockdown protest.
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Seriously???
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Next on E!, Keeping up with the Trumps! |
Wait, you are surprised that the clown family and clown in chief have orchestrated a clown show?
(I know, we all take our turns in the I-can't-believe-that-I-can't-believe-this train these days) |
Touche', Quik.
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Can’t wait for Trump to call the Nobel Peace prize a fraud.
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It's Friday. That's definitely coming. |
House Dems have introduced legislation (which would only apply to future Presidents) to appoint a bipartisan commission of medical experts to evaluate ailing Presidents for removal under a 25th Amendment claim. It probably won't make it through the Senate, but it's guaranteed to piss off Trump... even though it wouldn't apply to him.
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A little late, but funny.
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Does it apply to him during the 2nd term he's not going to have? |
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Again, I don't get this political chess with my political checkers brain. SI |
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Feeding losers? That wins you a prize? What about winning?!? SI |
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This sherriff is nuts.
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By sundown tonight, the word will be out to all in MAGAville... your word to use in every setting is "cure." Go forth.
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It's too bad Melania didn't get any of that cure.
I assume she's thinking of any time in quarantine as a guaranteed vacation from everything going on, and she's going to take the opposite of Donald's approach & will probably 'remain at home' until the absolute last minute possible. |
Florida voter registration won’t be extended; judge rips state
Hey Judge Walker, watch the disrespect. Our state leadership actually wants to safely put people safely on the moon. So there.:banghead: |
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So we're killing Chris Christe for the fun of it? |
I think it is pretty obvious that Donny Boy is still testing positive. They won't tell us when he tested negative the last, but they'll tell us when Pence is negative.
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Heard today he is still in the hospital but for cautionary reasons. Must be nice to get a 5 day hospital stay when most other people get sent home and told to only come back when you can't breath. |
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Again, just nonsense issues they pretend to care about. Obama was incredibly tough on immigration. Deported more than Bush and saw returns way down. Race relations would seem to be worse electing a white supremacist. And police was one of the only things that Obama didn't cut from his budget (in fact they got a hefty increase in funding). Shit, the health care plan he put in place was the conservative plan from the 90's. And the constitution stuff is most comical considering who is in office right now. Or maybe those portions of the constitution don't count? |
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Just talked to a friend who told me a mutual friend and her husband voted Trump and I am shook. This is someone I would never thought supported him. educated school teacher with a young daughter. The emotion I felt was similar to when you fond out someone cheated on their spouse that you would never expect to do something like that.
While I realize it is purely anecdotal it makes me question if there is more to the silent majority than I originally thought. |
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What I have noticed in my area, there is a much bigger groundswell for Biden than there was for Hillary. However, with Trump, most of the supporters here are underground. |
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Walking the dog around the neighborhood last night. Saw 2 Biden signs, none for Trump. However, there were Trump signs last time around. I do suspect the Trump supporters are underground. This contrasts with a car trip I took to a town further north. I must have seen 8-10 Trump signs on my 80 mile trip around 2 lane roads. |
There are a lot more Biden signs and Trump signs in my neighborhood this year than there were either Clinton or Trump signs in 2016.
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Weirdly, I don't recall any of the Trump signs referencing Pence.
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There are quite a few Biden and Trump signs here. About even of both, maybe a couple more Biden. I think I saw one or two Hillary signs in 2016 and a few Trump signs. There definitely seems to be more engagement this year if yard signs are an indicator. I've never understood putting them in your yard except to draw attention to yourself. Everybody knows who Trump and Biden are.
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The house we bought in June sits in Trump country Washington. Previously we lived in the stereotypical hyper liberal, hipster Washington town but we can't drive a mile without seeing a Trump flag or sticker on someone's vehicle or in the yard now.
My wife stopped to get take out at a small pub and grill and said she got multiple eye rolls when people would walk in and see her with a mask on. The staff all had masks on but everyone else would take their mask off as soon as they walked in the door. |
“If you fuck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are gonna do things to you that have never been done before.”
I honestly don't object to rough language, I'm guilty of more than my share of it. Maybe this is a deliberate tactic for the last weeks, down a couple touchdowns, so to speak. Anyway... it's a new twist. If nothing else, might well get people talking about something other than how many Americans are needlessly dead from covid, or whether he should be removed from office for _________, or whatever series of his crimes and misdemeanors might have otherwise occupied the news cycle. "He tells it like it is." Yup. |
Hmmm. F-bomb as distraction. I can see it.
Of course, calling into talk radio and dropping F-bombs probably doesn't slow down the "is this guy OK, like, medically OK in the head?" talk. |
In 2016, there was no Hillary signs in my neighborhood or any main highway here in Myrtle. Still no Biden signs on the highways, but there is a small number of them now in the neighborhood and growing. No Graham or Harrison signs at all.
This county has been pretty dominant Republican with all the retirees moving here. I'll be curious to see the numbers this year. More and more families living here now than in 2016, with new housing everywhere you turn. It still likely will go for Trump, but it should be closer for Biden this year, |
Just checked the registrations of the two largest streets in my neighborhood. They total 75 R, 39 D, 61 I. You can check your area here: Attention Required! | Cloudflare
Still not a single Trump sign in the neighborhood--not a ton of any kind, but in the last few days, I've noticed two more households and one more business have put up Tillis/Forest/LocalRepublican combos, but with Teh Donald noticeably absent. Trump won my precinct in 2016, 59-36. |
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LOL, Trump told Rush Limbaugh today that now he wants a bigger stimulus than even the Democrats want.
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Interesting. I put in my and neighbor's address and it came back with "no records found at this address" (I know I voted and know I am registered to vote). Did you have to put in all your neighbor's addresses to get the info or did it summarize it for you? |
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The biggest! Yuuggge! SI |
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It's only good for about a third of the states (go to the front page of the site). For instance, I can't check as Texas isn't one SI |
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Thanks. GA is not one of the states. |
Question : Didn't Trump say he was done negotiating re: Stimulus/Covid Aid ? Why is he now back to it ? (Aside from every adviser likely explaining to him how stupid his decision was)
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That's the one way ro get him to do things, at least some of the time (until he figures out the flipside, like with Covid testing) |
Didn't work for SC either (damn those elitist North Carolinians!) :)
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So I got my absentee ballot in the mail today finally. Now then where is that box for Trump...:)
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Pompeo saya he has Clinton's emails and is going to release them. I had to check the calendar and make sure we are not back in 2016. I guess if you don't have anything else, all you can do is go back to the one that brought you. "But her emails!"
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Trump appears to have a unique negotiating style. |
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I'm sure they will get her on that pesky Benghazi affair finally!! |
Heh. All I had to put in was my street name and zip code, not even an address, and it pulled the whole street. I remembered an street name from an exit in Charlotte, and here's what it pulled:
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On this, Christina Applegate made a good point. "If they were security risks, then how could they be released?" It is almost like the whole investigation was disingenuous or something. |
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The actress? |
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You do realize that if we made a video, said this, then ended with "I am Donald J Trump, and I approve this message" there would legit be people that sent back ballots with every circle filled in :) |
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Freeeebirrrrdddddd! SI |
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But his campaign financing!
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If this is true, how do Monday's hearings happen without some proof he's not positive?
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