I think the bribe urchin is out of the game, and roles like schmidty were the ones robbing people(like DC last night).

Well, I think the hand about the moon could represent the foggy night last night. As for the rest of it, I can't even take a meaning out of it. Just completely out of left field. Sounds like yours was out of left field too, especially when I remember someone having a dream that actually had substance to it and I believe they posted it earlier in the game.

My first visit to the opium den yielded, what turned out to be, a real occurrence (bullet and barkeep meeting), so the drugs are capable of giving us seer-like powers. I suspect it is something with very low odds, since, to my knowledge, no one else has had a realistic vision.

Yes. Blade visited me in the opium den.

Ill be to the point...much like i learned CWs role on night 1 after seeing him close up, i learned the other persons role after last night. To that end, i dont think its wise to discuss who or what that person is for the time being.

That's fine.

I was just hoping to expand my CoT a bit, but for the time being, I can understand.

Did anyone make a bid to the urchin(s) on day 2?

I wonder if the Chana part and how hot she "used to be" actually means she used to be a prostitute but maybe she is no longer? Meaning this person might have been converted?

I dunno, I'm looking at my PM and there's mention of Queen Victoria, Big Ben, London Bridge, a lot of fearful Londoners (which a lot of us are with all the robberies and killings and such), people looking different as if they were Japanese, and a tidal wave about to hit London.

Maybe the den part was an added flavor; my PM did say that taking opium might allow me to see something and I was hoping, really hoping that I'd get a vision :(

UNVOTE LSG
VOTE SALDANA

Bye bye sal.

From what i understand no one did..i bid 10 last night and failed, so saldana likely did bid his 13. I just dont think his mission failed, or that he followed me.

VOTE SALDANA
NO LYNCH SWAGGS

Insert obligatory pending further info clause here.

So saldana bid 13 shillings to kill the urchin? That's what it sounds like to me.

The reason I ask is because I bid on Day 2 and am curious to see if anyone else won/lost and, if so, what their bids were.

You must allow me my secrets hoops, it will be 2 of the past 3 days ive been one of the first 2 to vote a bad guy...so while i might be frustrating you(i certainly have lied and covered false tracks enough to up until now), im doing what i think is best for the side of good. Putting myself out to die basically to give you saldana is worth it for me, as with only 2 bad guys left after that the ratio victory for bad is pretty far off.

I dont think you can submit a bid to kill the urchin...i think he just said that to reason why him killing schmidty wouldnt make sense. I have no order to kill the urchin, and i whole heartedly expect whoever wins the bidding today to be able to hire the urchin.

If we havent heared by now id imagine the winner of that bid was a bad guy, possibly lathum. We know now saldana can spend money, so the other bad guys likely can too. We dont have a record of lathum spending any money, so a day 2 bid isnt out of the question.

I should rephrase that, so saldana bid 13 shilling to have blade followed, only to kill the person that was gonna give him info?

Not if you ask me. I think he submitted his bid to follow someone, someone mr. hyde would want info on(possibly me, becuase i hinted yesterday as to my real role). Then when he found out i saw what he did last night, he shifted his story to what you believe. I am under the impression the urchin we bribe is not in the game, becuase if they were they would be LOADED.

Hoops, do you see any way for Blade and LSG to be evil and trying to lynch saldana for some reason? Maybe saldana is bad but with his own victory condition (moriarty, maybe), and those two are trying to earn trust?

This is not what I asked. What I am curious is if you can identify the player(s) who can clear you.

Crap, forgot to bold:

VOTE SALDANA
NO LYNCH SWAGGS

He indentified me, so i would imagine he can identify the other. Why do you have such a vested interest in something i said was better left for another day?? :confused:

I can identify both players by name.

Perhaps we should hedge our bets and lynch saldana and Swaggs. :)

If we think of Barkeeps suggestion that Hyde may not be able to specify who he kills, it might just be that they were in the same area at the same time.....though to be fair, if you knew you couldn't specify you'd probably stay far away from the area where you knew the urchin you hired might be. Or maybe the area and victim for Hyde are random.....

Lynch swaggs and ill see to it you go down tomorrow.

Well, I was hoping he wouldn't identify the player(s) who could clear him, at least not yet. I was just curious if he could.

You can't do it if you're good.

To clarify, only evil can kill me! Muah, hahahahahahahahahaha!

He had already said he was going to leave it at that, so you prying further only makes you suspicious to me

Assumption is the root of all evil

It appears that a number of cots that I had identified have dissolved.

vote saldana

Still thinking about Swaggs. Earlier in the game there was a theory tossed about that the bad guys did not know one another. Does anybody still subscribe to that?

By the way, hoops or barkeep or whoever...i still want a list of who the prostitutes are. It would help immensely with my decision for my night action

I think Moriarty and Fagin know each other. Sherlock Holmes and Watson are a team, so maybe for game balance Mortiarty and Fagin know each other and can communicate?

:rolleyes:

Ok, fagin/moriarity/whoever you are. I believe you about saldana, and maybe about swaggs, but you are playing one strange game if you're a villager.

I have decided that I don't know who Sherlock and Watson are, my CoT have dissolved, and this is turning more interesting by the day!

Strange or not ive helped land 2 bad guys in the first 4 days...strange would be more like your style, which i cant even describe becuase you havent done anything

Yup, makes sense. The good guy wants info, and out comes the bad guy and blamo, smashes Schmidty to pieces.

Welcome back into WW RA, where everyday brings a complete tidal wave to your beliefs and makes you feel like someone is jackhammering your skull :)

For both to have information that condemn Saldana - if it turns out that somehow Saldana is not evil - would strongly imply at least one and likely both are evil. However, I don't think the bad guys get to play as factions, unless something like the werewolf has a one-time convert ability. So it would have to be two bad guys playing off one another (seems unlikely) or else one of them was fed fake evidence (probably even more likely).

Most likely scenario seems to be that both of them are telling the truth.

VOTE NO LYNCH SWAGGS
VOTE SALDANA

I think the sensation I'd be feeling right now if I was still alive would be like having an icepick jammed in my eye.

You keep saying that but the only bad person we've gotten has been Lathum... who was the other person?

I'm sure I posted it earlier, but here it is again. We started with four, I know three for sure through my interactions: me, Barkeep, and SnDvls. There is very strong evidence to suggest that Izulde is the 4th.

I dont mean sound discrediting to my own support, but LSG could very well be evil and figured out im good. Whats a great way to earn trust in that situation? Make up a story about seeing saldana kill swaggs, presenting no new evidence that i hadnt given, and then bask in the newfound trust. Im not saying shes evil, but she is still just about the bottom of my trust list with cronin and DC right now. She hasnt given anything that wasnt public knowledge, and in fact he claims to have done something no one else has yet done this game(witness a murder, that convenienty cancels any night actions, and just stayed home). To be honest, right now id place her as the person who killed mr. w, but thats a guess while swaggs and saldana are facts

Hoops, do you or the other prosties know who the bordello mum is? (or whatever that title is)

And Blade, please note, I am not asking you to name the player - just asking if hoops could.

Saldana, its day 4...so in the first 4 days would include today DC

DC?

Dodgerchick, who i was replying to

Nevermind... didn't read that right.

lol, you know what i feel like now? Heres a hint

Saldana, you just dealt with the dog :D