Both Alan and tyrith have openly stated they dont want it to be LSG or NTN lynched today...thats very interesting to me...

Where did you see that? Especially since Alan voted for ntndeacon?

Yeah, I saw that too and wondered, why is his vote on ntndeacon then? Oh well, probably nothing.

Oh, nevermind, I"m getting ntndeacon confused with Izulde... my bad

My bad, thought they said the same thing...the fact they both trust LSG is still interesting.

Oh it was tyrith that said that.

So much stuff being throw around I'm getting confused on who said what.

No, I believe I was trying to get at the fact I don't want LSG and ntn to be racing each other because they tend to be the targets of the same people. I would prefer we race people out of different pairings.

/ooc

BTW Tyrith, I noticed you live in Austin... are you a student?

I don't trust LSG...I don't trust ANYONE in this game. The person who I have least suspicion of being a bad guy is currently _voting for me_. But she's not my number one target today because I really haven't gotten any specific alarms from her yet.

Mhm, I'm going to UT-Austin right now. I should be working on a paper I have due tomorrow but I've been procrastinating all day while I'm playing WW and generally being a bum.

Am I missing something? Nobody is voting for you?

home and catching up...3.5 pages or so to go !

Hey, it is painful trying to catch up. Where have you been, bumming around?

Izulde has somewhat aligned with me. I'm not sure if I should be suspicious of that (in the sense that it might imply a bad guy trying to buddy up with me) or if that should make me want to back off of him (in the sense that the same logic that points to a lynch vote for Izulde also points to a lynch vote for me).

So for right now, I'm going to punt and vote for ntndeacon. I think I'll be back to check on developments before the deadline, but I'm not sure.

VOTE ntndeacon

3 pages to go

WHAT!?!? we lost 3!!!! last night!!! I have NEVER seen that happen before. Beautiful writeup Anxiety, but that was a big hit that we took there. Still processing my thoughts.

spleen is i think

Does anybody have a vote spread? I appear to be missing at least the Tyrith vote?

This was alans last post, and the two votes after it:

well, and yours on NTN

4 - izulde - lsg (1185), brian (1336), blade (1347), tyrith (1348)
4 - ntn - alan (1247), jonathan (1248), schmidty (1340), mr.w (1364)
2 - lsg - izulde (1237), gram (1331)
1 - daddy - swaggs (1258)
1 - mr.w - dodger (1274)
1 - tyrith - spleen (1202)

NO VOTE: daddy, ntn, sublime, thomkal

so we need 9 to lynch, and are missing four, so even if all four vote for ntn or izulde, we wont get a lynch... gram, izulde, swaggs, dodger or spleen need to move theirs

home and ready to vote now (i thing).

i've been at work...10:30-6:30 . and then 45 minutes to catch up on the 4 pages.

i find it surprising that Swaggs is claiming that my game is "wolfish" btw...my style of play is consistent between the 3 games. I do have a somewhat erratic work schedule so often my votes are early or late or changed from my phone (like in the last game where i nailed 2 wolves btw!). I tend to throw out a bunch of speculation when I have the chance to read, and at this point in my WW career I still tend to look to the more experienced players to analyze most of it.I'm just a townsman. Nothing exciting here.

As for my vote, I had advocated ntndeacon the other night (if someone wants to go back and find the post be my guest, I don't have the patience to go back and find it).

However the only other game I played with izulde he acted this exact same way when he was a wolf, throwing out speculation and accusation without any substance, trying to stir things up.

At this point I am going to assume that ntndeacon will vote for izulde in an attempt to save his own neck, so i am going to put my vote onto ntndeacon in order to maintain that likely tie.

I think if you asked me to choose between the two I would likely chose ntndeacon anyways. And I want to preemptively point out to those who will accuse me of bandwagoning that I was the person who originally brought ntndeacon up as a candidate the other night, and i have JUST gotten in the door from work.

I will be around from now till lynch with the exception of a run out for dinner & coffee

VOTE NTNDEACON

and ntn obviously won't vote for himself, so we'll need what...2 to move (can't do math, my head hurts)

I would just like to note that in a majority system there's no such thing as a true self defense vote. If there are enough votes on you for you to be the lynch then some of them will have to move because there's no way to tie a majority. Of course, you could cast a vote to keep the race close, but it's not quite the same thing.

There are 5 on ntn now. If sublime and thomkal vote for him, we indeed need two people to move.

Between ntndeacon and Izulde, I have to go with ntndeacon.

UNVOTE LoneStarGirl

VOTE Ntndeacon

I still want to vote for Tyrith today, but it looks like my vote will be needed for a lynch.

I have ntn with 5 and Izulde with 4 right at this moment. While I do suspect both of them, I still want Tyrith lynched today. Bah!

I am making this vote this way because this sort iof tactic worked for me in the Football Tryouts game beautifully. Although the situations aren't completely identical, let's see what happens with it.

UNVOTE Tyrith
VOTE Izulde

Ah, boo! :)

This vote beat mine in.

NTN 6
Izulde 5

I am out until 11:30 at the earliest, so I hope the next 2.5 hours goes well for the good guys. We need to lynch a baddie today.

I'm willing to go over to Izulde. I generally trust the people voting for him more than those voting for ntn right now. I don't want us to not have a lynch today.

Unvote Daddy Torgo

Vote Izulde

I guess it looks like there'll be nobody serving me drinks down at the tavern in any case, eh?

Izulde, are you a simple villager on the side of light?

care to elaborate on why the trust more for the people voting for izulde?
the motives for the votes seem about identical...are you talking about actually trusting those voters more because of things in this game?

I'm staying with my vote, because I've become more and more certain that LSG's a wolf, whereas ntdeacon I'm not sure about and if I did make the vote switch, it'd look like I was just trying to save my hide in any case.

Yes, a simple hobbit who likes to leave his warren about once every month or so and go to the tavern for a nice drink.

If you switch you'll probably make it more likely that someone will switch onto him later. I know ntn isn't going to give you the same mercy.

This is true, but mercy is the way of the Light.

He will swap, dont worry...izulde is just trying to say that, but if it comes down to his vote being needed or he dies, he will swap. Hes just trying to play all night right now, but its a falsity that will exposed in time. I think he believe, most likely with reason, that his vote being out of the equation makes it look closer then it is. That way, he can maybe draw an extra vote or two his way before he swaps.

Is your name similar to that of Chief Rum's character?

i will switch off off izulde to ntn if it helps the lynch. I really dont have a grasp on ntn at all, so i would rather him die and we learn something, then nothing happen tonight.

Dola, spleen..remember the day 3 of the football game? izulde reminds me of swaggs right now, in a different situation sure, but similar actions

FWIW, the other game i played with izulde when he was on the block and later revealed to be a wolf he was much more vehament in his own defense. but he could still be guilty and just be playing it a different way.

ntndeacon seems almost like it's more of just "clearing out the non-participant" type vote....everyone else has participated to varying degrees that are more than he has though.

well I just don't have a strong feeling of suspicion towards anyone right now. Of Izulde and NTN, NTN hasn't been participating as much, so we know the least about him.

vote ntndeacon

The people on NTN read almost straight off my suspicious list, with the exception of sublime who hasnt voted and Izulde, who we all know will swap to save his own life.

That is current to this post, fyi

I'm not quite sure what relevance this has to anything, but rum does sound good right about now. Do you think you could get me some? We are working to banish the Dark after all, and a dry throat does ill to that end.

So when NTN comes up good, i want all of you to finally stop taking the easy road and blindly following Alan.

i don't think are many that are above suspiscion at this point FWIW. Certainly not all of those on izulde are.

i reject the wholehearted condemnation of everyone on ntn on behalf of the side of light blade, and i don't know what it hopes to accomplish beyond chumming the waters

I should say, Thomkal is my new #1 after today...he will be my vote tomorrow if i make it, and i really hope at least some of you follow me. Im pretty darn sure NTN will come up good with whos voted for him, and i hope you all remember this post when he does

you'd rather we follow you?

I severely hope that tomorrow the truly good villagers, whoever they are, start to seriously reconsider who their following in these votes. If today ends like i expect, it will be 3 days in a row that people like alan have led you astray. We can no longer afford such blemishes

grrrr...after reading who i have voted with, i understand your point blade. I am not in the sunniest of company