I'm going to be out for a bit...I'm trying to get 22 new students their liberty cards, moving 6 other students out in the process.

I have to go shower and such for my umpire game. Game is at 4:15, I gotta be on the field by 4. If it's a 'normal' game, I won't be back until shortly after the deadline, so I'm going to leave my vote on stkelly for now.

If, by some miracle, one team manages to outscore the other side by 10 before the end of the game, I may make it back in time to see if anything has happened worth changing my vote over.

Good luck, guys. Force be with you all. Let's get a Sith!

VOTE AE

Right now there are 14 left. The seer would be able to give us info on 6 people from his scans. If 3 or more of those people are still alive I think it is time for the seer to come out and tell us who is clean so we can narrow this down.

I don't see how voting me gets the seer out here, but so be it.

Here's how I have the votes so far through post 1354:

5 - stkelly52: Ardent(1305), Desnudo(1314), Sack(1325), Cartman(1336), Taz(1346)
2 - Ardent: stkelly(1296), king(1353)
2 - Hoops: Pennywise(1309), Grammaticus(1350)
1 - King: Sndvls(1330)

By timeline:

1296 -- stkelly votes Ardent (1)
1304 -- hoops votes Taz (1)
1305 -- Ardent votes stkelly (1)
1309 -- Penny votes hoops (1)
1310 -- path votes Taz (2)
1314 -- Desnudo votes stkelly (2)
1324 -- hoops UNvotes Taz (1)
1325 -- Sack votes stkelly (3)
1326 -- path UNvotes Taz (0)
1330 -- Sndvls votes King (1)
1336 -- Cartman votes stkelly (4)
1346 -- Taz votes stkelly (5)
1350 -- Gram votes hoops (2)
1353 -- King votes Ardent (2)

Unvote stkelly 52

I'd like to hear from him before I make a final vote.

Right now, two votes that are really sticking out to me as suspicious are SnDvls and Kingfc. I'd like to hear an explanation for each vote.

So votes are outstanding from KWhit, Hoops, Desnudo and myself. I'll have one before 5 Pacific. I'm waiting to see if stkelly shows up.

Back, looks like a quiet afternoon. I would still like to see something from Stkelly ... don't think he been heard from since his opening comments this morning when he voted for Ardent. We've also had two cases of lynching someone (Lathum, Tanglewood) who weren't around to defend themselves at the end of the day.

That said, if that information is not forthcoming soon then I'm going to protect Ardent (also some self-preservation) from late vote switching.

No votes at this point - KWhit, Path, Hoops, Desnudo

Maybe because he keeps saying he trusts AE more than anyone. Hoops is very persuasive in these games, so if AE is a Sith, they may choose to keep Hoops alive because he's doing a lot to help Ardent out right now.

Vote Ardent

KWhit, if AE is a Sith then I have completely screwed the pooch this game. I won't vote for myself, but I won't put up much of a fight the following day. That said, I trust my read on this one more than anything else in this mess.

I voted AE yesterday and I'm voting for him today for the same reason. I think it is more likely that he is a Sith than the others that have received votes.

I'm out probably until after the deadline. I had hoped for stkelly to show up because I'm paranoid after the debacle yesterday with Tangle. But for the reasons I stated earlier, and with no better angle to play right now, I'm going to:

VOTE STKELLY52

Good luck to us all. Except those friggin' Sith.

Ah, I'm free...well, sort of. Done with the check in and out stuff. Back to research stuff.

As for the votes, I'm not going ape over the votes. I've got a feeling I'm getting lynched tonight.

When I do, I'd ask you to look at stkelly, kingfc22, kwit, and desnudo. They seem to be the four that can't get it through their head that I'm telling the truth. They're even unusually stubborn or Sith.

You'll see I'm telling the truth when I'm gone.

What are you talking about AE? I've said multiple times that I think you're a Jedi.

Ah, yes, sorry, been a bit busy over here. Perhaps I'm a bit steaming still about the remarks you made yesterday. I apologize. Still the unvote of stkelly could lead to my death, and your unvote should be noted.

I'm sure it will be. I unvoted because I'd like to hear from stkelly if possible. If I do move my vote, it won't be to you.

Speak of the Sith...I mean, stkelly.

VOTE STKELLY

That should put the margin back up to three votes (6-3). I don't like voting for a guy who hasn't been around all day, but the alternative of late-switches to AE is no good either.

StKelly, I know a few of us wanted to hear from you ... glad to see you made it back (viewing thread now). May head back here in a sec, but for now

UNVOTE STKELLY

I looked up the game on Wikipedia to figure out the game and the types of characters that I might encounter.

Looked up what word. Just looked up Werewolf on Wiki and it is a page about werewolves.

I actually googled "werewolf" and "game" and I discovered the original nem of the game is "Mafia" I found a link that pointed to Wiki and I read up. Cupid was an interesting character to me because it geve the posiblilty that a wolf could be intimatly conected to a vilager w/o the villager knowing it.

Hmm, true.

UNVOTE STKELLY52

Unvote AE
Vote hoops

This is mostly a self preservation vote. I still doubt AE. It seems like so much of what has been going on here has been at the direction of AE. He really seems to be a leader in who we vote off, and we are doing a terrible job of finding the Sith. I suspect that he is intentionally leading us in the wrong direction.

You mean the direction of Hoops?

I figured you had to go with that vote for self-preservation, since people were pressuring you not to go with AE. Doesn't mean I like it, but I get it ...

Votes as of post #1377:

ardent - king (1353), KWhit (1360)
stkelly - AE (1305), Sack (1325), cartman (1336), path (1363)
Hoops - Penny (1309), Gram (1350), stkelly (1375)
King - SnDvls (1330)

Not voted - Desnudo, Taz, Hoopsguy

I followed the last game (treasure hunter) quite closly, that was the first werewolf thread that I ever opened.

I'm not going to vote Ardent. I'm obviously not going to "vote self". So I have to go self-preservation and

VOTE STKELLY

Interesting. Not sure what to do at this point.

Hmm. My bad, thought I'd seen you in more.

Me either. I'm feeling pretty vulnerable to both a tie and to a forced vote change.

To me, that sounds a little strange, to first say you got the info off of Wikipedia, then when called on it, claim the info actually was Googled. If anything, I'd expect the search to be the other way around, with Google pointing to Wikipedia. But maybe that's just me.

Hmm... I missed Kwitts Ardent vote. It doesn't matter if I go with Ardent or Hoops. I trust AE least so I should go with him

Bring it on.

unvote hoops
vote Ardent

Bleh, I have zero belief that stkelly52 is a Sith. However, I don't want to allow for the possibility of a tie either.

vote stkelly52

I suppose giving you all my word of honor that I am not a Sith won't help :)

In my vote of stkelly, I said we should looks at hoops. With stkelly giving me an acceptable answer. I'm going to have to go

VOTE HOOPS

I know how Sndvls feels. Being a bad guy two games in a row, I've lost trust with people. It sucks fighting an uphill battle, telling the truth, and have people be hard headed about it.

Be hard headed. When I'm gone you'll see how wrong you are...are you probably already know and you're just trying to finish me off.

Wow, that's quite a stir of votes.

Here is my problem with that logic. If you don't believe that I am a sith, and you vote for me anyway that helps that sith. You will assist in the death of another teammate. At the same time if you are confident that AE is good you should not vote for him. vote for the person you most distrust, present your argument and perhaps others will follow.

I basically agree with St. Kelly's argument here (post #1393), even though it puts me at risk. I don't know if we have enough people to move the votes to another location but I'm willing to move my vote off of Stkelly if I don't feel that I'm signing my own death warrant.

What happens in the event of a tie?

Votes as of Post #1394:

ardent - king (1353), KWhit (1360), stkelly (1387)
stkelly - AE (1305), Sack (1325), cartman (1336), path (1363), Hoops (1380), desnudo (1388)
Hoops - Penny (1309), Gram (1350), Taz (1390)
King - SnDvls (1330)

Wikipedia does have a mafia page that lists cupid before lovers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28game%29

Qwikshot dies. :D

We don't know, but someone dies based on the Taz/Qwik tie two nights ago. Saldana has not revealed the logic for tie-breaking.

I'm guessing in the event of a tie, the person with the first vote would be lynched.