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ISiddiqui 10-25-2008 11:57 PM

Upton just Willie Mays Hayes'd that one.

Dr. Sak 10-25-2008 11:57 PM

That bullshit bunt call is costing them now.

Lathum 10-26-2008 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1870947)
That bullshit bunt call is costing them now.


arent you at the game??

Lathum 10-26-2008 12:17 AM

Jesus, you can't get picked off of second base as the go ahead run with 1 out.

MikeVic 10-26-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1870945)
Upton just Willie Mays Hayes'd that one.


Exactly what I thought. :D

EagleFan 10-26-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1870947)
That bullshit bunt call is costing them now.


Should be 4-2 and Lidge time.

Bad feeling about this, especially with yet another baserunning screw up by Werth.

Lathum 10-26-2008 12:34 AM

man, the Rays are just asking to blow this game by putting the lead off runners on in the late innings.

Lathum 10-26-2008 12:39 AM

well that was ugly

SirFozzie 10-26-2008 12:39 AM

"Find 6 errors in this play and win $5,000"!

ISiddiqui 10-26-2008 12:49 AM

Don't tell me all the Phils fans went to bed ;).

Qwikshot 10-26-2008 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1870964)
Don't tell me all the Phils fans went to bed ;).


Not this one...g'damn that was edge of your seat...

EagleFan 10-26-2008 12:52 AM

Not pretty but I'll take it.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 12:56 AM

Enjoy the game tomorrow, make that tonight, Dr. Sak.

RedKingGold 10-26-2008 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 1870964)
Don't tell me all the Phils fans went to bed ;).


Oh, was definitely awake for every single pitch.

However, I went to bed (very happily, I may add) within two minutes of Bruntlett crossing the plate. :)

Dr. Sak 10-26-2008 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1870951)
arent you at the game??


I have tickets for Game 4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1870967)
Enjoy the game tomorrow, make that tonight, Dr. Sak.


Thanks man! I have to leave for the airport soon. Go Phils! Im hoping to maybe scaple some tickets for the Eagles game too.

Go Phils!

Alan T 10-26-2008 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1871008)
Im hoping to maybe scaple some tickets for the Eagles game too.



Go Falcons!

stevew 10-26-2008 09:06 AM

I couldn't stay awake. I am that weak sauce.

With a 1 run lead, and no more Mitch Williams, I figured i was in good hands with Lidge.

McLovin 10-26-2008 07:50 PM

stupid ump..Rollins was out.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 1871368)
stupid ump..Rollins was out.


About time a bad call went the Phils way this series.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 08:47 PM

dola: It shouldn't have even led to that as the pitcher was an idiot for going after Rollins when he had an inning ending double play handed to him if he goes to second.

McLovin 10-26-2008 08:58 PM

True.. Howard starting to get hot ??

sterlingice 10-26-2008 09:00 PM

The Rays just need to chip away here to make the game interesting. This is the first time in the series a game feels like it's slipping away from one team.

SI

McLovin 10-26-2008 09:03 PM

The Rays need to start hitting if they want to stay in this.

sterlingice 10-26-2008 09:06 PM

Oh geez.

SI

Lathum 10-26-2008 09:07 PM

omg

Young Drachma 10-26-2008 09:08 PM

I think the Phillies deserve the title, so I hope they get it. That city has suffered enough

McLovin 10-26-2008 09:09 PM

Oh yeah, they need to start not letting pitchers get HR's....

Young Drachma 10-26-2008 09:14 PM

I totally missed that Blanton was the one that went deep. Hilarious. I had it on mute...but how 'bout that.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 09:25 PM

If they hang on to win this I can't even imagine what the atmosphere is going to be like at CBP tomorrow.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1871439)
I totally missed that Blanton was the one that went deep. Hilarious. I had it on mute...but how 'bout that.


That was a shot too. Not like a barely made it out CBP only type of homer.

cuervo72 10-26-2008 10:25 PM

Oh my.

stevew 10-26-2008 10:46 PM

woot!

One more fkn game!

tucker rocky 10-26-2008 10:55 PM

Phillies in complete control.
I want the Phillies to win this in front of the long suffering Philadelphia sports fans.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 11:28 PM

Unbelievable!!! One more win!!!

Howard is heating up and Hamels is going tomorrow. It at least looks promising.

Unfortunately you need to sell a kidney to get a ticket on that legalized scalping agency known as stubhub.

I may try to get a group together and go to McFadden's though.

sterlingice 10-26-2008 11:31 PM

Haha. The "cheapest" ticket on stubhub right now is $666 :devil:

(well, it's $2000 for 3 tickets, but it shows up as 666 apiece) They're a lot cheaper for games 6 and 7 ;)

SI

EagleFan 10-26-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1871548)
Haha. The "cheapest" ticket on stubhub right now is $666 :devil:

(well, it's $2000 for 3 tickets, but it shows up as 666 apiece) They're a lot cheaper for games 6 and 7 ;)

SI


Those are the auctioned ones so it's the current cheapest bid. The cheapest set price I saw was about 850.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 11:34 PM

Never mind, the cheapest set price is now 950.

EagleFan 10-26-2008 11:37 PM

Wow, some people are trying a bit too much. One block of 8 is set for 20,000 each. There is a block of 4 in the same section and in a better row for just (a relative term) 1,429 each.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 07:51 AM

What a game last night! One more!

RedKingGold 10-27-2008 09:31 AM

I have a bad feeling about this.

Butter 10-27-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1871435)
I think the Phillies deserve the title, so I hope they get it. That city has suffered enough


You remember what happened when we said that about Boston, don't you? :eek:

As a National League homer, go Phils.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 1871739)
I have a bad feeling about this.


I hope the team doesn't have the same attitude the fans have. WIP was planning the parade last night. People were running around celebrating. There is still one more game to be won.

Qwikshot 10-27-2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1871747)
I hope the team doesn't have the same attitude the fans have. WIP was planning the parade last night. People were running around celebrating. There is still one more game to be won.


First of all 610 WIP is the worst, /worst/ sports talk station there is. They find fault with everything these teams do, because they /care/...just like hackers break into systems for the benefit of proving things are broken or have security lapses.

They ooze contempt for anyone who is knowledgible about sports, they hate statisticians, or anyone with some sort of reasoned analysis.

They rely on negative callers to sensationalize issues rather than have any sort of reasoned discussion.

Now they want to pat themselves on the back for how well the team is doing - Angelo Cataldi actually wanted to leave game 3 because it was /late/...here's a guy with tickets (which I'm assuming he got free or hooked up because he only wanted to pay a thousand each) and he was tired and didn't want to stay.

Morganti is credible but admits to being a BoSox fan (which is fine since he is from Boston).

The morning crew for the most part of the year didn't believe Hamels to be an ace because he lacked the me-first attitude of say a Curt Schilling. They have constantly brought up discussions on how to trade Ryan Howard.

This is also the same crew that brought bus after bus to the NFL draft to boo the pick of McNabb (they all wanted Ricky Williams). And they have continually lambasted the Eagles organization, which while it is frustrating to watch year after year, have at least had a flicker of a chance. (Imagine a team like the Chiefs, Dolphins, or Falcons playing here).

For a while there, WIP ignored the Phillies, barely knew their rotations or would attempt to think up trades in which the Phillies garbage could be passed off for some star player or prospect (not that the Ed Wade years weren't nasty but at least some sort of reasoned understanding would be nice).

Eskin is even worse, the man oozes slime from the radio.

There is very little to like or discern as intelligent from that station.

610 relies generally on the stereotypical Philadelphia fan, the thug.

EagleFan 10-27-2008 11:58 AM

I agree on much of what Qwik said. I do like a couple people from WIP but most are just on air to stir up crap. Anthony and Glen are the only ones on there that I actually enjoy listening to. I liked Marzano when he was on, it was a shame what happened to him.

Lathum 10-27-2008 12:11 PM

One thing I noticed when I switched to XM was how much more I actualy enjoyed sports talk radio.

I grew up on WFAN and Mike and the Maddog and as much as I love them I couldn't stomach the crazy Yankees fans calling up and concocting ways they could trade Carl Pavano and Kyle Farnsworth for Roy Oswalt.

sterlingice 10-27-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1871828)
One thing I noticed when I switched to XM was how much more I actualy enjoyed sports talk radio.

I grew up on WFAN and Mike and the Maddog and as much as I love them I couldn't stomach the crazy Yankees fans calling up and concocting ways they could trade Carl Pavano and Kyle Farnsworth for Roy Oswalt.


What are some of the better sports talk shows to listen to around? Don't necessarily have to be national- heck I've found some local to be better. In Richmond, there's not much but it's not a huge sports market. However, in KC, there is one show I'll still tune into because it's the best sports talk I've heard and it's just a local show but not necessarily a huge homer, just good analysis and sports talk. I'd love to get some other good stuff into the rotation.

SI

Qwikshot 10-27-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1871815)
I agree on much of what Qwik said. I do like a couple people from WIP but most are just on air to stir up crap. Anthony and Glen are the only ones on there that I actually enjoy listening to. I liked Marzano when he was on, it was a shame what happened to him.


Gary Cobb knows at least some people and can discuss football related things, but even he was wrong about the Boldin trades (man, everyday there would be a Boldin rumor).

Eskin presents rumor into fact, he stirs up a lot of junk, and when he does have a good point its generally swallowed over the ooze of smugness. I once met Eskin in person in a Flyers box seat, and he had an aura about him then. I won't forgive him for making fun of Charlie Manual because of the way Charlie speaks...he would call him "Gomer" and state that because of the way he speaks he lacks intelligence. Eskin was so angry when the Phils fired Bowa who used him to speak ill of players that needed to step up...running the likes of Scott Rolen, Bobby Abreu, and consistenty harping on Pat Burrell and Ryan Howard (especially Ryan).

Marzano was okay, but even he would go into these negatives about the Phils. Let's face it John wasn't that good of a ball player. Mitch Williams coming back was okay, and he gives a nice perspective since he was a pretty well-known player, and for all the slights against Philly fans, he's been welcomed back as a commentator.

Rhea gets on my nerves; Hugh Douglas needs to find another line of work, whatever expert analysis went up in smoke being with the morning crew. Keith Jones is likeable as a person (hell he saved Eric Lindros from bleeding to death), but Jonesy lacks any really sports analysis and just comes across as a happy-go-lucky guy who spouts the same cliched platitudes and one-liners that his active hockey compatriots do.

I like Morganti, but not around the morning crew.

edited - Morganti was spelled incorrectly

Lathum 10-27-2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1871833)
What are some of the better sports talk shows to listen to around? Don't necessarily have to be national- heck I've found some local to be better. In Richmond, there's not much but it's not a huge sports market. However, in KC, there is one show I'll still tune into because it's the best sports talk I've heard and it's just a local show but not necessarily a huge homer, just good analysis and sports talk. I'd love to get some other good stuff into the rotation.

SI


I really like the Fox guys.

Steve Szaben (SP?) is awesome. Great mix of humor and knowledge and he has great spots and guests. His weekly spot with Brandon Lang is can't miss for me.

Chris Myers is also really good.

I love Maddog's new show.

Galloway and Company is a show from Dallas that is really good and The Dan Patrick Show is good.

I also like the Max Kellerman show because he is such an over the top homer it is funny.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 12:44 PM

I agree with Lathum on Steve Czaben and The Dan Patrick Show.

lordscarlet 10-27-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1871851)
I agree with Lathum on Steve Czaben and The Dan Patrick Show.


I enjoyed Czaben when he was local. He's probably still good, but I don't spend any time in the car these days, so that means very little radio listening.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 1871546)
Unbelievable!!! One more win!!!

Howard is heating up and Hamels is going tomorrow. It at least looks promising.

Unfortunately you need to sell a kidney to get a ticket on that legalized scalping agency known as stubhub.

I may try to get a group together and go to McFadden's though.


Not sure if they will do this again but they weren't letting anyone in McFadden's without a ticket to the game.

sterlingice 10-27-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1871838)
I really like the Fox guys.

Steve Szaben (SP?) is awesome. Great mix of humor and knowledge and he has great spots and guests. His weekly spot with Brandon Lang is can't miss for me.

Chris Myers is also really good.

I love Maddog's new show.

Galloway and Company is a show from Dallas that is really good and The Dan Patrick Show is good.

I also like the Max Kellerman show because he is such an over the top homer it is funny.


Don't know about Czaban. I tend to listen to Patrick for the 20 minutes in the morning when I'm on the way to work and I'm good with his show, most of the time.

The one thing that drives me nuts is that every sports talk show nowadays seems to think they need to comment on the world outside of sports. I don't need to know what happened on 24 last night, something you saw on youtube, or the all-but-2-paragraphs-of-his-column where Bill Simmons talks about crap that isn't sports. I'm kindof a purist like that- I don't want a random long sex scene interrupting my gratuitously violent action movies and I don't need nonsense pop culture when listening to sports talk ;)

I'll have to check out a few others of those online if I can.

SI

Lathum 10-27-2008 02:21 PM

I agree with the non sports stuff.

My wife and I tape Dancing with the Stars every weak and I was waiting to watch the results show from the night before while watching PTI and from out of no where Tony Kornhole blurts out who got voted off and I was like, WTF??

Butter 10-27-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1871929)
My wife and I tape Dancing with the Stars every weak


Freudian slip, FTW.

Lathum 10-27-2008 02:26 PM

lol, probably

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 03:08 PM

I was just thinking...this might have been the best sporting weekend for me for a long time...

Friday - Flyers win,
Saturday - Flyers win, Phillies win, Penn State wins
Sunday - Eagles win, Phillies win

Conversely....Pitt lost...Pens lost...and Steelers lost..

Very nice! I like!

Lathum 10-27-2008 07:48 PM

Jesus, Kazmir is getting pinched in the first inning

Lathum 10-27-2008 07:49 PM

fuck.

Time to put the MNF game on

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 07:52 PM

Great start!!

EagleFan 10-27-2008 08:07 PM

Go Phils!!!

If they can keep this up it'll be a GREAT night.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 08:34 PM

Im just throwing this out there...

I hate Joe Buck...I swear it pains him that the Phillies are winning.

EagleFan 10-27-2008 08:40 PM

A little concerned about Hamels' hand.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 08:42 PM

Hamels is tough...he'll be okay.

terpkristin 10-27-2008 08:55 PM

Man, it looks dreadful out there..
/tk

EagleFan 10-27-2008 08:55 PM

Nice play by Utley.

Lathum 10-27-2008 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin (Post 1872245)
Man, it looks dreadful out there..
/tk


I agree, and IMO it's idiotic they are still playing in it. It's a deciding game of the world series, not some May game on a Monday

terpkristin 10-27-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872250)
I agree, and IMO it's idiotic they are still playing in it. It's a deciding game of the world series, not some May game on a Monday


100% concur.

/tk

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:05 PM

and Kazmir gets pinched again

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:07 PM

I want to punch Joe Buck in the face.

EagleFan 10-27-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872259)
and Kazmir gets pinched again


When you are all over the place with your control you usually don't get the close calls.

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1872261)
I want to punch Joe Buck in the face.


why?

He is 100% correct, Kazmir is getting screwed by the home plate umpire.

Maple Leafs 10-27-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872250)
I agree, and IMO it's idiotic they are still playing in it. It's a deciding game of the world series, not some May game on a Monday

A very sick part of me wants to see the World Series end with an umpire waving off a game in the sixth-inning at 3 a.m.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872263)
why?

He is 100% correct, Kazmir is getting screwed by the home plate umpire.


This goes further than just this game and it extends to listening him call Eagles game.

Sometimes you don't get calls...I didn't hear Buck defending the Phillies when the umps blew that call on Moyers bunt or when JRoll got hit.

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:16 PM

I understand sometimes you dont get the call, but I can count 4 pitches that all were strikes and they were all called balls.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872275)
I understand sometimes you dont get the call, but I can count 4 pitches that all were strikes and they were all called balls.


And you don't think that there were 4 pitches throughout this series that weren't called correctly for the Phillies? Or balls that were called strikes? In game 2 when Tampa threw that side arm pitcher...the umps were calling strikes a foot outside the plate.

Im not saying you are incorrect, but it isnt one sided.

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:20 PM

I'm sure there were, but when it is the same pitcher in the span of 4 innings that pitcher is getting pintched IMO.

We can agree to disagree on this. IT really doesnt matter as long as the Rays keep hitting into double plays

sterlingice 10-27-2008 09:21 PM

Still hard to win when you have to throw 5 strikes in the rain to get an out.

SI

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:23 PM

I have a bad feeling all these runners left on base are going to come back to bite the Phils.

EagleFan 10-27-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872275)
I understand sometimes you dont get the call, but I can count 4 pitches that all were strikes and they were all called balls.


Have you been watching the series? There has been lousy home plate umpiring this series. 4 blown calls is a low number for them this series.

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:26 PM

these delays to work on the field are getting ridiculous.

sterlingice 10-27-2008 09:28 PM

Let's see how the strike zone is this half inning. Typically, when conditions get bad, umps widen out the strike zone in an effort to speed things up. The exact opposite has happened tonight.

SI

EagleFan 10-27-2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872296)
these delays to work on the field are getting ridiculous.


This could be a long game at this rate.

sterlingice 10-27-2008 09:28 PM

Um, yeah, bullcrap

SI

sterlingice 10-27-2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1872303)
The real question is this: is the umpire consistent? If so, you really can't complain.


I think that last pitch pretty much summed up how "fair" things have been this game

SI

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:29 PM

For the fox tracker...is it where it crosses the plate or where the catcher catches it?

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1872303)
The real question is this: is the umpire consistent? If so, you really can't complain.

EDIT: Have just started watching so I really have no idea. Buck just says its inconsistent, but Buck is also a moron.


can I complain now?

EagleFan 10-27-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1872306)
I think that last pitch pretty much summed up how "fair" things have been this game

SI


It has been. He's not calling low but calling off the plate. That has been the same.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:33 PM

Again shut the fuck up Buck. Both teams have to play under the same conditions.

sterlingice 10-27-2008 09:33 PM

Yes, Buck, Maddon should go complain about the field since he's behind...

SI

JetsIn06 10-27-2008 09:34 PM

I'm confused...I thought I heard Buck say that if the game is called, they start over. Then I hear him say it's an official game. But then I hear him say Maddon should go complain...

So what happens if the game is called? Just start where they left off tomorrow?

EagleFan 10-27-2008 09:34 PM

So much for the "can't steal a base" arguement.

Lathum 10-27-2008 09:34 PM

I think Hammels is waiting for the home plate up to call one of those throws over to first a strike.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 1872318)
I'm confused...I thought I heard Buck say that if the game is called, they start over. Then I hear him say it's an official game. But then I hear him say Maddon should go complain...

So what happens if the game is called? Just start where they left off tomorrow?


It follows the same rules as the regular season...so as of now it is an "official" game.

molson 10-27-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1872316)
Yes, Buck, Maddon should go complain about the field since he's behind...

SI


Ya, I was wondering what the hell he was talking about...

Sorry if this was covered here on during the game - but do the umpires/mlb have any discretion to suspend the game or would the game being called automatically give the Phils the series? Tough spot. I guess they could hang out there until tomorrow.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1872322)
I think Hammels is waiting for the home plate up to call one of those throws over to first a strike.


Can you blame him? It can't hurt to try.

Big Fo 10-27-2008 09:36 PM

Fox just loves these puddle shots.

Dr. Sak 10-27-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1872327)
I can't wait for the game to be called and Phils to win. What a shitshow.


Honestly...I want a title so bad...but I don't want it to happen that way.

JetsIn06 10-27-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 1872324)
It follows the same rules as the regular season...so as of now it is an "official" game.


Right, but if it's called...it's over and the Phillies win? That's why I'm confused...why would Buck say Maddon should go out and complain? That would lose them the game. :confused:

sterlingice 10-27-2008 09:37 PM

Honestly, I wonder if baseball is hoping the Rays can tie it so they can go ahead and then put in a rain delay rather than calling the deciding game of the World Series based on rain

SI

JetsIn06 10-27-2008 09:37 PM

PENA!


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