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Ksyrup 11-05-2018 04:54 PM

When the commercials end, we all win.

Thomkal 11-05-2018 05:00 PM

heh

NobodyHere 11-05-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3222391)
When the commercials end, we all win.


I've always wondered how much bank tv stations earn during an election month.

larrymcg421 11-05-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3222388)
Any predictions for specific incumbents to win or lose? Incumbency has a lot of power when it comes to Election Day, so sadly I think most will win. I could see Rohrbacker (sp?) of CA losing though and McCaskill probably the most likely Dem incumbent to lose. I'll be thrilled if the likes of Nunes and Cruz lose though.


Heitkamp is far more likely to lose than McCaskill.

Lathum 11-05-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3222391)
When the commercials end, we all win.


There is one running in NJ right now talking about how Bob Menendez traveled abroad to sleep with underage prostitutes.

Hugin doubles down on explosive and unproven allegations of Menendez and prostitution with new ad | NJ.com

PilotMan 11-05-2018 05:40 PM




True

bronconick 11-05-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3222391)
When the commercials end, we all win.


Feel for those poor states that have runoffs for not reaching 50%. They get another month.

JPhillips 11-05-2018 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3222391)
When the commercials end, we all win.


lol

The 2020 primary starts Wednesday. Pity the poor folk in Iowa and New Hampshire.

tarcone 11-05-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3222400)
There is one running in NJ right now talking about how Bob Menendez traveled abroad to sleep with underage prostitutes.

Hugin doubles down on explosive and unproven allegations of Menendez and prostitution with new ad | NJ.com


There is a guy I know that is a huge conspiracy theory guy. He believes there is an island off the coast of California in international waters. It is called pedophile island. And the ultra rich fly to this island and there are teen age boys and girls.

Bill Clinton is a name he mentions as a participant. He says Clinton tells his secret sevice to stand down and flies out for a weekend.

tarcone 11-05-2018 06:37 PM

I think McCaskill loses. Shoot, the state voted Grientens into the governors office.

Lathum 11-05-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3222407)
There is a guy I know that is a huge conspiracy theory guy. He believes there is an island off the coast of California in international waters. It is called pedophile island. And the ultra rich fly to this island and there are teen age boys and girls.

Bill Clinton is a name he mentions as a participant. He says Clinton tells his secret sevice to stand down and flies out for a weekend.


It is amazing to me there are people like that out there.

NobodyHere 11-05-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3222410)
It is amazing to me there are people like that out there.


Yeah, everyone knows the Clintons use random pizza parlors for their child sex trafficking.

Thomkal 11-05-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3222395)
Heitkamp is far more likely to lose than McCaskill.



Yeah wouldn't surprise me to see her lose too. I just know Republicans have been focused on McCaskill's seat since Todd Akin gave her a gift.

Ksyrup 11-05-2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3222407)
There is a guy I know that is a huge conspiracy theory guy. He believes there is an island off the coast of California in international waters. It is called pedophile island. And the ultra rich fly to this island and there are teen age boys and girls.

Bill Clinton is a name he mentions as a participant. He says Clinton tells his secret sevice to stand down and flies out for a weekend.


These things always have a hint of truth or a "ripped from the headlines" aspect to them. I suspect this fantasy tale that someone started was based on an unfortunately true story that somehow managed to elude wide publicity.

The entire story is awful, but pretty interesting considering that the pedophile piece of this came to light during the investigation into several murders that occurred near where I was born (I would have been around 6 years old when this occurred).

Much Sickness: North Fox Island, Shelden, Grossman, Starchild, Richards, The Franklin Scandal. | catherinebroad

Thomkal 11-05-2018 07:53 PM

PM that billboard made me want to vomit-glad I don't live anywhere where I have to see it every day,

MrBug708 11-05-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3222420)
These things always have a hint of truth or a "ripped from the headlines" aspect to them. I suspect this fantasy tale that someone started was based on an unfortunately true story that somehow managed to elude wide publicity.

The entire story is awful, but pretty interesting considering that the pedophile piece of this came to light during the investigation into several murders that occurred near where I was born (I would have been around 6 years old when this occurred).

Much Sickness: North Fox Island, Shelden, Grossman, Starchild, Richards, The Franklin Scandal. | catherinebroad


Isn't the story about Jeffrey Epstein?

tarcone 11-05-2018 09:01 PM

Missouri voters: Yes on 2, No on 3 and C

Edward64 11-05-2018 09:10 PM

Don't know if this means good news for Rep/Dem but it is good that more people are voting.

A staggering 36 million people have voted early, setting the stage for big midterm turnout - POLITICO
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A staggering 36 million voters cast their ballots ahead of Election Day this year, setting the stage for much-higher-than-usual turnout for a midterm — and, potentially, big surprises on Tuesday night.

Republican enthusiasm for President Donald Trump and Democrats’ itch to repudiate him at the ballot box have driven people to the polls far faster than in 2014, when 27.2 million people voted early, according to Michael McDonald, a University of Florida professor who tracks voter turnout.

tarcone 11-05-2018 09:30 PM

Trump, Hannity and Limbaugh in Missouri tonight. Gives you an idea how important this race is.

Thomkal 11-05-2018 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3222428)
Trump, Hannity and Limbaugh in Missouri tonight. Gives you an idea how important this race is.



And Judge Jeanine too. Really hope the Dems win MO now.

RainMaker 11-06-2018 01:04 AM

So that big Foxconn deal we had to hear about for months turned out to be a scam.

Did Scott Walker and Donald Trump Deal Away the Wisconsin Governor’s Race to Foxconn? | The New Yorker

RainMaker 11-06-2018 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3222364)
I keep seeing stuff like this, yet also keep seeing the republicans are likely to remain in control. Not sure how those two things jive. I suppose the blue states will just be bluer and the red states stay red but not as red?


The Senate isn't proportional to population. So the Republicans can hold a big advantage with significantly less votes than Democrats. A state like Wyoming gets the same number of Senators as New York despite being 16 times bigger in population.

When it comes to the House, which should be evenly distributed based on populatoin, the maps favor Republicans. They were in control during the 2010 redistricting and heavily gerrymandered. That means that even if Democrat candidates receive 5% more of the vote tomorrow, the Republicans can keep the House.

Basically we have one of the most moronic systems ever conceived to elect our leaders. A system where the ruling party is elected by a minority of the voters because some founding fathers from the South wanted to cling on to slavery.

BishopMVP 11-06-2018 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3222406)
lol

The 2020 primary starts Wednesday. Pity the poor folk in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Thankfully it doesn't apply to me anymore, but you know what's worse? Living in the major media market (Boston) that broadcasts to (the majority of) NH, while not actually having a vote in a contested election!
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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3222427)
Don't know if this means good news for Rep/Dem but it is good that more people are voting.

A staggering 36 million people have voted early, setting the stage for big midterm turnout - POLITICO

I assume a 33% increase in early voting says more about access, awareness, and technology than motivation, but I'll be interested to see the final turnout numbers.


I'm still trying to learn the political landscape down here, but NC stuff will be interesting. The gerrymandering has made super weird districts, but I think Mark Harris still "represents the district" more, while Dan McCready is a better candidate for the US House. The local NC Senate race is even more of a shitshow, with the Charlotte Observer saying
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We disagree with Republican Sen. Dan Bishop on most every policy stance he has taken, including his lead sponsorship of HB2, and we’re troubled by his investment in a website that was home to hate speech. But while we respect Democrat Chad Stachowicz’s moderate policy views, we are concerned by his lack of judgment in a 2008 DWI and his comments on drinking since. We do not endorse either candidate.
There are also a couple ballot initiatives the Republicans are pushing hard to hold on to their 2010 gains a little longer... I think the Voter ID law will pass easily, but the attempt to strip the governor of the power to appoint judges until the next election, and the attempt to pack the election board with friendlier people are both toss ups.

digamma 11-06-2018 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3222435)
Basically we have one of the most moronic systems ever conceived to elect our leaders. A system where the ruling party is elected by a minority of the voters because some founding fathers from the South wanted to cling on to slavery.


You've never studied parliamentary government, huh?

JPhillips 11-06-2018 08:55 AM

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After all I’ve done to “Strengthen” democracy in our country, the Democrats are still trying to elect more people who Oppose (“Resist”) my #AmericaFirst Agenda. This should not be allowed & should probably be ILLEGAL because its so unfair to me. Why isn’t Sessions investigating?!

Trump says it should be illegal to vote for anyone other than his supporters.

Ben E Lou 11-06-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3222447)
Trump says it should be illegal to vote for anyone other than his supporters.

Where'd you find this quote?

miked 11-06-2018 09:09 AM

Isn't it in North Carolina where they are trying to strip the power of the governor because a democrat was elected?

JonInMiddleGA 11-06-2018 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3222448)
Where'd you find this quote?


It's probably one of mine.

Easy mistake to make.

Warhammer 11-06-2018 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3222435)
The Senate isn't proportional to population. So the Republicans can hold a big advantage with significantly less votes than Democrats. A state like Wyoming gets the same number of Senators as New York despite being 16 times bigger in population.

When it comes to the House, which should be evenly distributed based on populatoin, the maps favor Republicans. They were in control during the 2010 redistricting and heavily gerrymandered. That means that even if Democrat candidates receive 5% more of the vote tomorrow, the Republicans can keep the House.

Basically we have one of the most moronic systems ever conceived to elect our leaders. A system where the ruling party is elected by a minority of the voters because some founding fathers from the South wanted to cling on to slavery.


Uh, I believe the Virginia plan was based upon population because Virginia had one of the larger populations back then. The South was growing faster than the North back then.

The New Jersey plan was one the one that was non-proportional. The Connecticut plan essentially combined the proportional and equal representation ideas into a bicameral legislature.

lungs 11-06-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3222434)
So that big Foxconn deal we had to hear about for months turned out to be a scam.

Did Scott Walker and Donald Trump Deal Away the Wisconsin Governor’s Race to Foxconn? | The New Yorker



And now they want to bring in Chinese workers.

Wisconsin is open for business! I sure hope our long Scott Walker nightmare will finally be over tonight.

miami_fan 11-06-2018 10:10 AM

Anybody else have a candidate for weirdest ballot initiative?

Amendment 9: Florida’s referendum on vaping and offshore drilling - Vox

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Prohibits drilling for the exploration or extraction of oil and natural gas beneath all state-owned waters between the mean high water line and the state’s outermost territorial boundaries. Adds use of vapor-generating electronic devices to current prohibition of tobacco smoking in enclosed indoor workplaces with exceptions; permits more restrictive local ordinances

So we could either ban offshore drilling and vape devices or allow both.

I live in such a weird state.

cartman 11-06-2018 10:24 AM

Triumph made a trip to Texas to speak with Beto and Cruz. It didn't end well for Cruz.

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The puppet even managed to get some face time with each candidate.

O’Rourke mostly laughed off the encounter. Cruz, however, tried to have a moment with Triumph.

“Just remember: It wasn’t the Republicans, it was the Democrats that took you into the vet to get fixed and there is freedom on the other side,” Cruz cracked as his supporters laughed.

Triumph replied with a burn that might’ve left a scar.

“I support spaying and neutering, just like Trump did to you,” the puppet shot back.

kingfc22 11-06-2018 10:41 AM

O/U on when Trump will declare voter fraud for losing either the House and/or Senate should it happen?

6 hours? 12 hours?

Thomkal 11-06-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3222457)
O/U on when Trump will declare voter fraud for losing either the House and/or Senate should it happen?

6 hours? 12 hours?



U 1 hour-he's already been tweeting about it yesterday getting his base ready

JPhillips 11-06-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3222448)
Where'd you find this quote?


I saw it on twitter, but maybe I got taken by a fake account? I can't find it anywhere now.

CU Tiger 11-06-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3222453)
And now they want to bring in Chinese workers.

Wisconsin is open for business! I sure hope our long Scott Walker nightmare will finally be over tonight.





I wish they would come up with some solution.
One of our manufacturers is HQ'd in Wisconsin. Pays well by all accounts. Needs to hire over 100 production workers and has for over 6months. Literally no applicants.

I mean somewhere in the countyr there has to be an untrained work for willing to work for $18-30/hour right? Lets move them to Wisconsin.

Warhammer 11-06-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger (Post 3222483)
I wish they would come up with some solution.
One of our manufacturers is HQ'd in Wisconsin. Pays well by all accounts. Needs to hire over 100 production workers and has for over 6months. Literally no applicants.

I mean somewhere in the countyr there has to be an untrained work for willing to work for $18-30/hour right? Lets move them to Wisconsin.


This is what I don’t get...

Democrats complain companies are not paying workers higher wages, but want to open up the border, which brings in more workers for unskilled jobs driving down wages.

Republicans want to close the border. Which would drive up wages (by reducing the amount of unskilled labor), but historically wants cheap labor for business interests.

Either way, my company cut jobs because we could not find qualified workers for jobs earning $75k plus commission. We wound up expanding the existing sales territories.

JPhillips 11-06-2018 01:08 PM

There is no movement by elected Dems for open borders.

Castlerock 11-06-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miked (Post 3222449)
Isn't it in North Carolina where they are trying to strip the power of the governor because a democrat was elected?

Yes. The legislature (GOP super-majority) has already eliminated several of the Governor's powers. There are other ballot measures on today's ballot to strip more. And with very misleading text.

One measure:
"Constitutional amendment to establish an eight-member Bipartisan Board of Ethics and Elections Enforcement in the Constitution to administer ethics and elections law."

Who wouldn't vote for that, right? Well, there is ALREADY a NINE member bipartisan board with at least one unaffiliated member. The change is to who gets to appoint the board (was governor; would change to legislature). And ensures that the new board would always be a 4-4 partisan deadlock.

lungs 11-06-2018 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger (Post 3222483)
I wish they would come up with some solution.
One of our manufacturers is HQ'd in Wisconsin. Pays well by all accounts. Needs to hire over 100 production workers and has for over 6months. Literally no applicants.

I mean somewhere in the countyr there has to be an untrained work for willing to work for $18-30/hour right? Lets move them to Wisconsin.


What part of the state?

CU Tiger 11-06-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3222490)
What part of the state?



Eagle, Whitewater, Waukesha, Berlin and Osh Kosh

Thomkal 11-06-2018 01:45 PM

Long lines in most SC polling places today-nice to see. How do things look in your state?

Shkspr 11-06-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Castlerock (Post 3222489)
Yes. The legislature (GOP super-majority) has already eliminated several of the Governor's powers. There are other ballot measures on today's ballot to strip more. And with very misleading text.

One measure:
"Constitutional amendment to establish an eight-member Bipartisan Board of Ethics and Elections Enforcement in the Constitution to administer ethics and elections law."

Who wouldn't vote for that, right? Well, there is ALREADY a NINE member bipartisan board with at least one unaffiliated member. The change is to who gets to appoint the board (was governor; would change to legislature). And ensures that the new board would always be a 4-4 partisan deadlock.


I thought I remembered differently with this committee and the GOP proposal was that the ninth member would be appointed from a different party each year - Democrats in odd years and Republicans in even years. (It shouldn't take but a moment to figure out why the Democrats weren't on board with this idea.)

miami_fan 11-06-2018 03:00 PM

I would love to see an expert explain why voting machines are so fallible.

Ryche 11-06-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3222497)
I would love to see an expert explain why voting machines are so fallible.


A large part of the problem is the people running the machines. Largely volunteer, largely elderly.

Thomkal 11-06-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3222457)
O/U on when Trump will declare voter fraud for losing either the House and/or Senate should it happen?

6 hours? 12 hours?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.da13c07d2960

BYU 14 11-06-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3222499)


The most proactive President ever :rolleyes:

kingfc22 11-06-2018 04:03 PM

Thomkal - where do I send your winnings?

Thomkal 11-06-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3222501)
Thomkal - where do I send your winnings?



I'm sure I can find some Voter Fraud watchdog somewhere :)

larrymcg421 11-06-2018 04:29 PM

I'm still waiting on that sweet, sweet Soros money.


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