I thought Paul Ryan's budget was the joke.

Ummm, that poll is from three weeks ago, before Trump started acting like Trump.

I think the Libertarians have been on the national presidential ballot for years. Maybe I am wrong but they have definitely been on Missouri's ballot for as long as I have been voting. I think Gary Johnson is going to end up getting their nomination or maybe a Paul/Johnson ticket. I sort of feel the same way you do if somebody like Jesse Ventura ends up on the Libertarian ballot, in that case I will probably stay home.

I find it amusing that the people who consider themselves "Tea Party" aka anti-big government think Huckabee and Romney are the two best choices. Its polls like this that make me wonder is this a Fox News spin or is the general public that out of touch with both of these candidates pasts? Probably both.

I'm not anti-big government. I'm anti-wasteful spending. What party represents that?

Yeah, that doesn't make a ton of sense. Of the TP'ers I know (as you might imagine, there are a few) it's a split (in no particular order) between Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Trump, and IIRC one Paul. Cain benefits from being local though, as are the TP'ers I know personally.

Tea Party is probably as close as you'll get I think.

I may be wrong, but I still don't see how Huckabee gets through the primary with the pardon scandal. Releasing a cop killer that went on to kill again just seems like the kind of thing that should eliminate a candidate in a GOP field.

Tea Party is nothing but the far right of the GOP.

Yeah, probably. I'm reacting more to the fact that North Carolina has kept them off the governor ballot, and out of debates, so I have little faith in the two parties letting a third in on the fun.

Odd.

Obama is scheduled to make a statement at 10:30, but so far no indication of what it might be about.

update: National security related.

I found it odd.

Less odd is that when I first saw the news, I came here first to see if anyone had any insight.

Aliens or is he going to announce the collapse of our dollar?

Libya would be my guess.

Eh, not that odd a reaction. I do that with other news - natural disasters for instance - it's kind of part of what the FOFC does. If it doesn't get a thread here, I sometimes wonder how big some news item really is, y'know.

I'll say Gadafi is dead.

10:30 on Sunday seems to imply either something very good or very bad. Hopefully it's the first.

Blitzer says it's not Libya related.

is gadafi dying really worth a breaking tv statement from the prez like this?

Sounds like Bin Laden.

Very interesting. I hope its good news.

Bin Laden? I highly doubt that. This might be an issue with China or Russia. Honestly I have no idea therefore I am interested in this...

I have a million worst case situations running through my head right now. I just think that if anything had already happened, then this would have already been broke by the news agencies. So I keep thinking this is a potential problem.

Meteors headed this way. All hope is lost.

I almost hope it's not Bin Laden. I like him out there as a worthless scapegoat. Killing or capturing him? Nothing tangibly good will come out of that beyond a brief celebration.

Blitzer: Probably something we've been looking forward to.

MSNBC said it's about Bin Laden

YES! Osama is dead!! fuck yea!!

now lets hope he died from a bullet from our guns

FXNC senior producer says he's confirmed OBL dead

MSNBC said it's about "an incident" and that it had a "particular result"......really!?

Ok. So now what? He hasn't had any effect on Al Queda in almost a decade. After we are done jerking off, let's stop and think about what this really means.

My heart sank into my chest.

But we can still jerk off first, right?

You're right, the practical impact is minimal, but it's still a great, even if largely symbolic, day for the U.S.

Just to clarify. I'm not saying he shouldn't be killed, it had to be done.

But I guess I don't feel one way or another about it. Certainly can't figure out a reason to cheer about it. It won't have any effect in the longterm and will have a negative one in the short term.

My prediction....."Osama Bin Laden is dead.........just like we all are. Meteors are coming at us. Start the orgy, you only got 12 hours left."

Negative? I get it may not change things much, but how will it make things worse?

And can we now get out of Afghanistan?

they have the body too

In the short term, I'd imagine his death will inspire more of our enemies to join his cause.

However, once again, I'm not saying he shouldn't have been killed :D.

Concerned about the ramifications but glad he's in hell.

If they killed him in Pakistan I wonder if they'd even admit to it. That would be a political nightmare.

Special ops?

Man, sucks for Obama that this isn't an election year!

Ha, I was just thinking if this was Bush he would have hidden it until a month before the election.


So, if a few people blow themselves up in malls across America tomorrow, is everyone still high fiving each other?

/Debby downer

You figure he has garnered a lot of political capital though?

The western world doesn't have enough of an attention span. His re-election is dependent upon what it always has been, the economy and employment rate.

Or airport. Damn, better get to the airport extra early tomorrow.

Some. It'll be interesting to see if he does anything with it and if the rhetoric from the right changes at all.

Over/Under on how long the Republicans try to take credit for this?

Somehow I think some super computer at the NSA has flagged this dialog.

CNN reporting it was in a mansion near or in Islamabad, Pakistan.