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Ksyrup 07-13-2024 05:22 PM

Appears Trump was shot at and possibly hit (blood on ear seen) at a rally. Oh boy.

Ksyrup 07-13-2024 05:25 PM

Looks like he was possibly grazed by the ear based on the video.

Edit: Why are they allowing him to egg the crowd on, head visible? Is this a fucking WWE skit or something? He's bleeding from the ear, thousands of people around, and they allow him to continue to be that vulnerable?

BYU 14 07-13-2024 05:27 PM

Someone texted me saying it was a paintball gun, where is the video?

Ksyrup 07-13-2024 05:30 PM

On Twitter. No clue if it's real or not.

Lathum 07-13-2024 05:34 PM

Can't wait for the right wing media to claim Bidens government is trying to take out Trump.

stevew 07-13-2024 05:36 PM

Good old butler

Ghost Econ 07-13-2024 05:39 PM

Well, election and America over. At least I'm a white male, but I feel sorry for my daughter.

Lathum 07-13-2024 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3436649)
Well, election and America over. At least I'm a white male, but I feel sorry for my daughter.


yeah. This is definitely going to help him.

Jas_lov 07-13-2024 05:41 PM

If it was a real gun you would think someone behind Trump would have gotten hit and seriously wounded.

Ghost Econ 07-13-2024 05:43 PM

Doesn't matter, all people will hear is trump shot and the news will run it until they can't make money anymore.

Ksyrup 07-13-2024 05:43 PM

There are multiple shots too. How does he only get grazed and no reports of anyone else hurt?

Ghost Econ 07-13-2024 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3436653)
There are multiple shots too. How does he only get grazed and no reports of anyone else hurt?


Because liberals are gun hating pansies.

stevew 07-13-2024 05:44 PM

I was actually in Butler a few hours ago. I had no idea that jackass was doing a rally there.

Lathum 07-13-2024 05:44 PM

Where was the good guy with a gun?

Ghost Econ 07-13-2024 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3436655)
I was actually in Butler a few hours ago. I had no idea that jackass was doing a rally there.


Build the alibi now.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3436650)
yeah. This is definitely going to help him.



At this point I don't know if it mattered, but yeah. This is basically a game over moment. By the time his people are done, this is going to be Teddy Roosevelt continuing a speech after he was shot by coked up Hunter Biden.

thesloppy 07-13-2024 05:45 PM

Man, this election is something.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 05:47 PM

Just seeing the shot, I would guess it was a paintball. He gets hit, reaches up to his ear, then voluntarily goes down.

Lathum 07-13-2024 05:47 PM

The internet is going to be insufferable for the next several days

HerRealName 07-13-2024 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3436660)
Just seeing the shot, I would guess it was a paintball. He gets hit, reaches up to his ear, then voluntarily goes down.


Or maybe Airsoft?

RainMaker 07-13-2024 05:51 PM

He's going to win in a landslide.

stevew 07-13-2024 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3436657)
Build the alibi now.



I’m about as gun virgin as you can get. Maybe fired a .22 at a summer camp 35 years ago or so?

RainMaker 07-13-2024 05:57 PM

That photo of him with his fist in the air and blood on his face juxtaposed with Biden telling us he doesn't have a bed time. Trump is getting 400 electoral votes.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerRealName (Post 3436662)
Or maybe Airsoft?



That's a possibility to. When you hear the shots it doesn't sound really like a gun. It does sound to me like a paint ball gun, though an airsoft probably sounds the same.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3436665)
That photo of him with his fist in the air and blood on his face juxtaposed with Biden telling us he doesn't have a bed time. Trump is getting 400 electoral votes.



You're not wrong. I don't think another candidate is going to change that either.

Ghost Econ 07-13-2024 06:04 PM

The only way Biden can come close to saving this (assuming it doesn't come out as a false flag or something) is to get a statement out ASAP denouncing and flying AF One to whatever hospital Trump is at and denouncing it standing next to Trump.

dubb93 07-13-2024 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3436670)
The only way Biden can come close to saving this (assuming it doesn't come out as a false flag or something) is to get a statement out ASAP denouncing and flying AF One to whatever hospital Trump is at and denouncing it standing next to Trump.


Biden is asleep. This happened too late in the day.

RainMaker 07-13-2024 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3436670)
The only way Biden can come close to saving this (assuming it doesn't come out as a false flag or something) is to get a statement out ASAP denouncing and flying AF One to whatever hospital Trump is at and denouncing it standing next to Trump.


lol they just asked him about it and he said he hadn't heard about it. Just let Trump start filling his cabinet now.

RainMaker 07-13-2024 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3436670)
The only way Biden can come close to saving this (assuming it doesn't come out as a false flag or something) is to get a statement out ASAP denouncing and flying AF One to whatever hospital Trump is at and denouncing it standing next to Trump.


It wasn't even close before this happened. Dems will always be Dems.

JonInMiddleGA 07-13-2024 06:09 PM

Whatever was fired didn't sound ... typical.

We wondered here in the batcave about some sort of improvised weapon (like was used to kill Abe in Japan) but I don't know what the max capacity of something like that could be. (Japan was a single shot IIRC)

Legit question, cause I sure as hell don't know: Do 3D printer weapons "sound" normal?

Brian Swartz 07-13-2024 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker
That photo of him with his fist in the air and blood on his face juxtaposed with Biden telling us he doesn't have a bed time. Trump is getting 400 electoral votes.


Gonna save this post. One of us is going to be very, very wrong.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3436674)
Whatever was fired didn't sound ... typical.

We wondered here in the batcave about some sort of improvised weapon (like was used to kill Abe in Japan) but I don't know what the max capacity of something like that could be. (Japan was a single shot IIRC)

Legit question, cause I sure as hell don't know: Do 3D printer weapons "sound" normal?



The reports are the shooter is dead. I think the gun shots after the initial were Secret Service.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 06:16 PM


Atocep 07-13-2024 06:16 PM

meh, I prefer presidents that don't get shot.

I don't think this moved the needle either. No one is changing their vote 3 and half months from now over this.

JonInMiddleGA 07-13-2024 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3436680)
The reports are the shooter is dead. I think the gun shots after the initial were Secret Service.


There's a thought that it's 3 from the shooter, 5(?) in return fire. There is a sort of ... pause in there.

Ghost Econ 07-13-2024 06:17 PM

What's the worst case scenario for when we find out who the shooter is? Transgender immigrant who has used a stolen identity to work with children in Scranton and has an insta full of black lives matter, me too, and dark Brandon memes whose most recent picture is a photo with Biden?

Lathum 07-13-2024 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3436682)
meh, I prefer presidents that don't get shot.

I don't think this moved the needle either. No one is changing their vote 3 and half months from now over this.


I think this generates more turnout for Trump.

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 06:17 PM

This is interesting:

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3436684)
What's the worst case scenario for when we find out who the shooter is? Transgender immigrant who has used a stolen identity to work with children in Scranton and has an insta full of black lives matter, me too, and dark Brandon memes whose most recent picture is a photo with Biden?



That's the extreme, but it is going to be shocking if it is not someone that holds some-kind of extreme views.

BYU 14 07-13-2024 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3436674)
Whatever was fired didn't sound ... typical.

We wondered here in the batcave about some sort of improvised weapon (like was used to kill Abe in Japan) but I don't know what the max capacity of something like that could be. (Japan was a single shot IIRC)

Legit question, cause I sure as hell don't know: Do 3D printer weapons "sound" normal?


I would say it is a very strong possibility this is a ghost gun, as it is about the only way you could have gotten a weapon through the security protocol. They do sound similar to a regular gun though, depending on the caliber.

Lathum 07-13-2024 06:20 PM

Imagine trying to kill Trump and instead you end up dead and likely reelecting him.

Atocep 07-13-2024 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3436685)
I think this generates more turnout for Trump.


I don't think so. He's the favorite but this will mostly make angry people more angry. Retaliatory violence of some sort is more likely than than any electoral fallout.

Ksyrup 07-13-2024 06:20 PM

Sky News is saying 1 dead. Presumably the shooter?

GrantDawg 07-13-2024 06:21 PM

More from the local prosecutor. Always take this stuff with a grain of salt....

Lathum 07-13-2024 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3436690)
I don't think so. He's the favorite but this will mostly make angry people more angry. Retaliatory violence of some sort is more likely than than any electoral fallout.


30 seconds on Twitter will show you the civil war people are frothing at the mouth.

JonInMiddleGA 07-13-2024 06:23 PM

Okay, I can come up with a "legitimate" (barely) firearm combo that could approximately make that sound -- suppressed subsonic rounds are not far from that -- though still bassier/deeper than what I hear -- throw in distance and sound quality, it's possible

Thing is though, that'd sure be a hella weird choice to make. Virtually no stopping power, at distance, and in a crowd where just slipping away unnoticed doesn't seem likely.

Lathum 07-13-2024 06:25 PM

Remember that time, like 2 days ago, when people speculated on what would happen if there was a national emergency and the president needed to step up?

Well we are here.

cartman 07-13-2024 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3436694)
Okay, I can come up with a "legitimate" (barely) firearm combo that could approximately make that sound -- suppressed subsonic rounds are not far from that -- though still bassier/deeper than what I hear -- throw in distance and sound quality, it's possible

Thing is though, that'd sure be a hella weird choice to make. Virtually no stopping power, at distance, and in a crowd where just slipping away unnoticed doesn't seem likely.


It also could be that they had the mics dialed in to record voice, causing the supersonic sounds to be muffled, because if there was return fire, it had a similar sound, and those wouldn't be subsonic.

Ksyrup 07-13-2024 06:26 PM

I'm still not understanding how the SS allowed him to stand up and strike the defiance pose for so long not knowing if the shooter was neutralized or if there were others. Just a bizarre scene. Surely that's not SOP in the manual.

RainMaker 07-13-2024 06:27 PM

I think it's just a small caliber weapon and mics pick it up weird.


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