Things were still goofy enough at that point that I was hoping the wolves felt there was a chance that the info came from a seer or another player rather than me.

I revealed myself to the wolves early by intentionally misspelling 'conspiracy' twice as 'conspriacy' and the deal was that if they dropped that code back, I would help them out. CR, the night he was lynched, dropped that code back to me when I announced I was choosing between him and Telle. I stayed on Telle to help my place with the wolves to let me live longer (I even apologized to DT and Danny for not being able to help lynch CR) so they wouldn't believe it was me.

guys if we move off autumn i will interrogate one of him or jackal...but i want to be sure we move first...

Man, this game is more convoluted than I realized.

Come on guys, I have to do the dishes. Let me wash them without a heavy heart.

autumn's right about the math - with one lynch and interrogation we can move through 3 people if we move off autumn onto someone lower on the list.

Oops, hit enter too soon, but Danny did an amazing job of generating votes with the info I gave him but I was selfish and didn't help him. Big regret even though it would've cost me the game sooner.

DT, where do you want me to move as I am on Autumn?

Everyone now.... VOTE DT!!!

hmm...thomkal or isiddiqui...

I'll gladly go back to Thomkal.

unvote Autumn

vote Thomkal

unvote DT

vote Thom


You better vote DT tomorrow or that information may go with me to my grave.

well you know what my power is DT, so might be good if you cleared me.

i thought you were dead tonight anyways? you're spewing a lot of contradictions...

and by clearing me, I didn't mean lynch, geez

hey EF - if you tell us who the wolves are we can get rid of them both tonight - lynch one and i interrogate the second one to freeze them

I probably am but I am hoping they follow through with their PB threat first. At least in this case we get a wolf and are one step closer to victory. I lose my connection with the wolves though as he was my contact.

Trying to be selfish first. Vote out DT and then we'll go forward with it.

so you're saying thomkal is a wolf then. okay

Thomkal, now is probably the time to be open about your power.

Guys I'm telling you I'm the villager here. You're going to be kicking yourself for sure for being fooled by the wolves orchestrating this vote on nothing other than I'm uncleared.

His power is that he could potentially convert someone when he attacks. I did get a kick out of their attempt on DT when he told me about it, thought how funny would that be if it was a conversion (I wouldn't have minded losing that way if it happened as it would be memorable).

On the memorable note, I am offering a chance to make a memorable play. Lynch Jack, then win the gme.

EF, your best would've been to cast DT as being converted which is why he lived through the attack. That may have driven some votes on DT for you.

funny that's not what he told me, although he did say it involved something surrounding an attack.

honestly though, that leads me to believe you more in this case EF, as if I was a wolf I'd pick something somewhat close to my actual power to fake (just easier), and the odds of you coming up with that out of nowhere are fairly slim

Yes I'm really sure they are going to believing anything you say right now EagleFan.

you gotta admit though Thomkal - that sounds suspiciously like what you told me your power was (% of something happening on attack. you told him it was conversion, you told me it was discovering who the attacker was and you'd survive).

What are the odds that EF came up with that fake-power for you independently?

Why? He wasn't. Then if he gets lynched and comes up good no one is going to believe me when I tell them the final wolves. Unless thewolves didn't trust me enough to tell me the conversion was successful but I am not even going to try to speculate on that as I would vote for myself for saying that.

hey mr. duke - feel free to use your power if you have a strong feeling on either thomkal or EF.

if enough votes move off autumn then i will interrogate one of autumn/jackal to clear that up.

Hell, when I'm a wolf I never even tell my fellow wolves if I'm cunning.

I would like to see the move go to Thomkal right now, let DT decide the Autumn/Jackal debate (for the record, I'm leaning towards believing Autumn), and see what we've got.

omg you're one crafty SOB...lol

Vote count as of 2638:

ISiddiqui: Henry (2306, 11:53 PM)
Thomkal: Brian (2408 11:56 am) ntn (2413 12:30 pm) PB (2616 7:43) EF (2617 7:43) DT (2618 7:44 pm) Autumn (2624 7:47)
Autumn: path (2388 11:17 am) Jackal (2445, 3:56 PM) Saldana (2474, 5:01 PM) King (2480, 5:19 PM)
EagleFan: Schmidty (2555 7:07 pm) Thomkal (2559 7:11)

Oh I dunno, since we've been talking about conversion a lot over the past few days? And if the wolves have a conversion power, he's known about it since day 1. I'm telling you, he's the wolf here not me.

This is weird. Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when we already have three suspects to decide between?

If anything, this would make me look at you first for the cunning.

That's what I've been saying.

but would the cunning give up a wolf to gain trust when no wolves were under-fire?

but would the cunning give up a wolf out of the blue to gain trust when no wolves were under-fire?

I did it because DT put out there that I sent him the name of a wolf in a PM AND EF was lumping me in with him so I went for full disclosure of my spot. And a few had alluded to my individual win conditions.

UNVOTE AUTUMN
VOTE THOMKAL

I'd rather vote EF but I'll go with Jack.

Unless Thom is lying to me PB is not the cunning. PB sent me a PM claiming the third party role. Granted it could have been the wolves trying to test me but I believe him.

even after what schmidty and autumn have been saying about Pass setting EF up to be killed?

:popcorn:

DT is the one lumping you in with me. I have never claimed that it is either you or me.

I phrased that poorly EF, I just meant that we end up being aligned because we have separate win conditions.

To get in a CoT? Hell yeah.

Anyone watching the HR Derby? Does it seem A LOT more boring this year? Other than Hamilton going off, what is missing this year?

So Henry, Danny, DT, and EF all say I'm not a wolf, we have numerous people that we can make a nice push on, and this is the angle you're pushing? Why not try to lynch DT with EF?

I'm very annoyed by what is going on. I feel like there are a small group right now that is either mostly honest, or mostly about to dust the rest of the quiet ones. Of course, with my track record, I can't bitch about being quiet.

I just hate traitor/sorceror roles. Muddies up the water, even if he does count for our ratio.

well if that's what you think...

Inge sucked. Way to represent the Tiger, poop-head.

i know what you mean...this has really gotten friggin muddy

I've had this kind of role twice now, once I got lynched day 1 (not really a success) and this time, where I've made it deep and I feel like I worked very hard to get here. To me, it's a success. I know where you're coming from Path but I'm not normally a guy that goes for the big fake.

I'm not saying lynch you right now. I'm saying you made an oddly-timed move to defend yourself that would make me look at you first as the cunning wolf.

And.......yeah, if you are cunning then I would fully expect you to be on trust lists because cunnings scan good. I thought that was pretty self-explanatory?

I'm talking about EF, not you here.

okay - i just sent in my interrogation for jackal.

Not time.

I obviously miscalculated. I kept waiting to really finally have to answer the "why the hell do people trust PB" question which has floated a few times the last few days and I felt with some of the momentum we had, I could just confront it here after DT said that I PM'ed a wolf's name, figured that would draw even more questions. Oh well.

Ah, my bad Path.

One bit of solace if we lose - we had no chance if you were bad and converted or something anyway.

Plus, as EF has said, I'm quite possibly a nk target so if we had anything left in the tank (I haven't kept track of who has what power) I was hoping to receive a block. That's actually why I volunteered earlier to be interrogated, figured it would let me dodge a nightkill.

i swear on my puppy dog's life that i'm not bad and i haven't been converted

Yeah, just to clarify -- EF strikes me as a traitor role. PB's post makes me wonder about him as a cunning.

But I'm all about getting the overt wolves and looking for the covert one later.

Just got on-line tonight. I don't know the answer to that question. My power tells how many voters are part of the conspiracy. My thought recently is that it might work like the seer, but it wasn't mentioned at all in my messages.

Hoops/Barkeep49 - Are you willing to answer?

that's the only way to play it logically

*twiddling my thumbs*

Jackal is George Mason. He's "not a member of the conspiracy."

Adios to Autumn?

There is a slam dunk way to play it. Lynch DT and I hand us the win as I earn the major victory.

And DT/Path, that's all I ask. Let us get the overt and then you can come back at me. I will willingly undergo an interrogation any time you guys want, honestly.

UNVOTE THOMKAL
VOTE AUTUMN

Let's do it.

unvote Thomkal
vote Autumn

No. Get Autumn out of the way tomorrow. Vote DT tonight.

fair enough

Why does that push us to Autumn and not Thomkal?

you know we could also stay on thomkal and force our alleged-duke to utilize his power...

Good Lord, I hate trusting people.

Unvote Eaglefan

Vote Autumn

DT, immediately following the lynch, are we making a second push?

I wish I was the Duke. :)

Not a bad idea to help clear names.

because Autumn claimed that Jackal was some Serbian guy (I forget the name) and NOT George Mason. He wanted us to lynch Jackal and not him.

DT, cunning and the last two, game over we win.

What is vote count?

i know - i sort of like that idea. if we do have a duke he'll have to use the power to lynch autumn and then we'll know he's good and cleared...if he doesn't we lynch one villager and we know that the duke and autumn are evil...

Who ya gonna vote?

DaddyTorgo

As of 2691:

ISiddiqui: Henry (2306, 11:53 PM)
Thomkal: Brian (2408 11:56 am) ntn (2413 12:30 pm) EF (2617 7:43) Autumn (2624 7:47)
Autumn: Saldana (2474, 5:01 PM) King (2480, 5:19 PM) DT (2675 8:34 pm) path (2674 8:24 pm) PB (2679 8:24 pm) Schmidty (2684 8:26 pm)
EagleFan: Thomkal (2559 7:11)

I'm so close to a major victory, we have a slam dunk once we lynch DT. Easy and over. I helped you in your time of need PB.

DT, are we going to be able to get the #'s to move it back to Thomkal w/o the wolves screwing with it?

:lol:

i hope the wolves kill you just so you can't get your precious major-victory

Doesn't 1+x > 1?

EF, you know I love ya, but I can't lynch DT, not after how much he did to help me.

it's you me and path who have moved and that's it PB...I don't see why not.

Brian, Henry, Path - how do you feel bout putting it on Thomkal to get our Duke to use his power to move it to Autumn?

There you go. You've started that post out close to correctly. Now just add the word vote in front of those letters and bold it.

Oh, my bad. Could be a negative number.

Never mind.

Ahh, saw the count, if Path, DT, and I all jump to Thomkal, then our duke can do his thing.

unvote Thom

vote DT

Path - how you feel about that?