Wait. So no AE? That's real strange.

The sex slaves. Forgot about that. Wow.

The following Senators are in jail:

Daddyus Torgous
Abeus Anxietus

The following are the wealthiest men in Rome:

Ardentus Enthusiastus
Kayus Whitus


The following Romans are extremely wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus
Passus Caglius
Pathus Twelveus

The following Romans are of moderate wealth:

Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus
Grammus Atticus
Ironus Headus
Narcizus Lispus

The following remaining Romans are of normal wealth:

Autumnus Leavus
Chiefus Rumus
Chubbus Chubbus
Daddus Torgous
Mustangus Sallus
Tyrus Ithus

Is everyone alive?

The following services are available in the Forum today:


Maximus Maximus, ex-legionnaire real
Vitus Avidus, ex-legionnaire
Durus Pimpus, dealer in sexual slaves Macro Gothicus, barbarian turned citizen for his service during wartime Balbus Senna, political philosopher from Corsica Faustus Felix, owner of many horses
Bonus Oceanus, owner of many horses

and of course,

Ardentus Enthusiastus
Narcizus Lispus

Apparently. Did we ever find out who had the swordsman? Seems like they must have been a good guy. Looks like we had a BG block as well. Who had them? I'm curious if we hear anything that way.

Very interesting if we got a BG block, that hasn't happened once yet. I guess with fewer targest we have a better chance of getting lucky. Or perhaps in teh past traitors have used it.

I'm a little loston the service bids yesterday, but it was sounding like people thought KWhit might have won the swordsman. Since we haven't heard from him all day it could be that he just hasn't played today. Whether he would have used it or not is up for question.

I hope that doesn't mean we didn't get a lawyer scan. I was really hoping for that. For hte record I had Abeus Anxietus arrested. I did so particularly becuse there was a chance Dodgerus Erchickus was going to have him scanned, and that would give us an enlightened vote for once. Ugh.

I of course am interested in what we hear about Dodgerus's loyalty from both lawyers.

If AE didn't show up....doesn't that make Anxiety look really bad?

If nobody died, there must have been some blocking going on.

Anyone have info?

And AE had a possible BJ block...

Was not me. I don't have the $$$ to buy and I did not bid this time.

I'd imagine innocent under the assumption that someone figure she was going to buy a lawyer and someone then blocked AE with the slaves.

I'm more interested in potential bodyguards. That could shed some serious light on things.

I did send the sex slaves to AE, I'll be totally up front about that. I;m not the only one to think he smells bad this game. To be fair, I never thought that he would be unable to assist DC because I was told in a pm that the target would be unable to take any SECRET actions, and this was hardly in secret. Thus the fact that he was unable to assist DC was not foreseeable by me, or even entered into my thinking.

Now, on the other hand, you'll note that there was no kill last night. BG block? Or did the sex slaves hit someone, namely AE?

Or they didn't want her bad guy status reveal upon death.

Okay, I gotta proces my game now. Be back later.

Huh?

You sent the slaves to AE.

yeah, that's pretty fishy abe

dola

i'm sure it'll be a wash, but

VOTE THROW ANXIETY FROM THE ROCK

If you were going to do that....you could have been up front about it. THAT'S the fishy part.

Sorry, brother stopped in for a surprise visit. Posting stuff as soon as I catch up.

Might be a silly question, but for those people who have been jailed during the game did you receive a PM indicating that you had been jailed as well as who else was jailed that day?

Caught up. DC was good. Someone sent the sex slaves to me. Bad move fool. I won the bid on the swordsman. Don't you think I can kill you for doing that?

Reviewed again. I got the sex slaves and the sword killer guy.

So, who owned up the sex slave bit? Cause they might be getting a visit.

Just so I'm clear. You got the slaves sent to you, but you won the swordsman, right? Does the fact you got the slaves prevent you from using the swordsman?

Hmm. Not sure, didn't think of it that way.

Actually, No. It doesn't. My PM states for me to choose who I want to kill by the deadline. It doesn't say I'm out of luck.

I'd imagine the slaves would block a move.

What were you going to do with the swordsman?

Ah.. so you JUST won him. Nevermind...

Right now, I'm thinking of chopping the person who won the slaves.

Well, it looks like Anxiety might already be set up for a nice air trip, if you get my drift.

OK, well, that's good at least. Plus you're getting some.

I'm holding off for now, but the last list I saw was that Pass was responsible for the sex slaves.

Is there a post where he claimed responsibility for the slaves?

I have one question about that. We all know Anxiety. Does this look like a move he makes as bad? I'm not sure yet. It very well may be.

I did.

Just got in from a really bad day at work. I travelled to CHI today and the office I went to had FOFC blocked, so I couldn't access the forum at all today.

And I DID NOT win the sword yesterday. I don't know who beat me for it.

That's silly. I have a pseudo-BG ability and you want me to announce to the bad guys who I'm sending it against? That way they can just have soeone else do the action, if, as it apepars, certain people have to take actions?Come on now.

I don't remember if I mentioned this, but I did not get Gallus the bodyguard.

I'll buy that, kwhit. Like I said, I wasn't looking for you purposely. Glad you're back safe and sound.

Even better.

I did as well. Hence my post right after the PM's went out lumping myself and anxiety together.

It seems unlikely that the sex slaves blocked the kill. Isn't that a group action? More likely the bodyguards. It seems suspicious to me that Abeus Anxietus chose to block the lawyer after all the talk about using the lawyer's arguing abilities to learn about Dodgerus's innocence, and how the system works. This would have shed light on how much we could trust DC, how much we could trust Ardentus, and Coffeeus as well. Frustrating, and suspicious.

I am still glad I chose to arrest Anxietus, but I wish we could have gotten that scan on him. Also very suspicious, that he happened to block the person who may have been scanning him this day.

If Anxiety did this, then he's lucky he's already on the block. When he dies this way, at least I'll know if he's good or bad.

Although having him sliced would be nice.

I'm about to be out for the night. I'll be up about the same time I have been during the week...5-5:30 am.

If you sliced him, would we still have to vote for DT then? We could end up having to take two out. Little too early to tell if that's a good idea or not.

lol

Why is that even better?

So you got a PM saying DC was innocent Ardentus?

Waiting on Narcizus to let us know what he learned.

So Ardent, did Anxieteus send you men or women?

More info. Knowledge is power.

Yep. Innocent.

For the record, I bid on Ardentus yesterday, as according to the plan we came up with. I lost of course.

Lemme check. Just says a bunch of sex slaves this time.

When you convienently use it to block our psuedo-seer? Yeah, that's a little flaky there.

Someone should have gotten my horse message. Anyone wanna fess up?

I did not get a horse message.

I didn't get one either. Who hired Narcizo? They can use him to scan, can't they?

No horse message here. I dont remember if anyone said they had won him or not. I forgot, we usually are down a laywer.

Um, chubby hasn't exactly been an active replacement for LSG....

No kidding, he has about one post.

When I suspect him of being a tarq, that's not flaky. And oh look, no kill from the tarqs. Maybe, I was right and maybe there was a bg block we have yet to hear from, but you have to at least admit the possibilty that I was right on with eh sex slaves. And btw, I was not nearly the only one to find AE suspicious over teh past few days either.

I'd like to see that list. I bid on the bodyguard Sunday, and got him.

Yeah, I know...but wasn't there some better way to do it? Hrm...within the confines of the scheme, perhaps not...it's just frustrating that if he's good, that really hurt.

Did your body guard block anyone last night Pass?

I lost my bid for Titius, FWIW.

Nope. I protected Narcizo, and got no PM.

I agree, early to say, but it does present us an opportunity. We have no known traitor kills so far, and this is the first day without a poisoning, so I'm sure we're far behind. If we could pull off two kills we might get back into it.

My suspicion in Anxietus has only deepened, but we need to examine Daddyus too.

I agree. I have a lot of suspicion of Ardentus too, as do many of us. But I didn't jail him because I didn't want to lose his actions. I'm not sure how to clear Ardentus of our suspicions, have we determined if he can scan himself?

Okay, Pass makes me feel better about Anxiety so far. What about the other BG?

well i'll say this. I bid on both lawyers, although with my lack of wealth I doubt i'll win either one. I'm innocent...just a normal boring senator. But i'm also so thoroughly confused by all the mechanics of this game and what-not, that at least losing me is just losing a number and not losing a lot of analysis. Hopefully I get a laywer and they can clear me though.

dola

misspelled lawyer

Cronin: You've said that we have to vote. What's the consequence if we do not?

Do we know that we will receive a PM if the bodyguard protects someone?

Narcizo seems a likely target, I'd be surprised if they didn't strike at him, it's been their MO.

You can bid on more than one service?

I would think the service user would get something on a body guard block. Maybe the body guard would tell you he ran someone off, etc.

oh...can I not? I dunno...we're what...7 days in? Goes to show what I remember of the rules. Guess I'll have to send another PM to cronin specifying which lawyer. I just said "I want a lawyer!" to him. I havn't been doing a lot of bidding, so I didn't remember the exact rules.

Yeah, maybe. We haven't had any successful bodyguard blocks yet, have we? I'm just not sure what we know. The lawyer function works different than we expected. Well actually most everything worked different than expected, so I wouldn't assume anything. Perhaps the hirer gets notice, or perhaps the intended victim, or maybe just the attacker. Or some combination.

Has anyone who's used the bodyguard in the past gotten any sort of notice from its use, even on a failure?

Yeah, I checked up on that a while ago. Only one bid. Sounds like another opportunity for a mess up and lost bid/arrest/execution/etc. It will be of interest to see how this turns out as if you win a lawyer they'll be occupied in defending you. I've got to go back and look at that bid list to see hwat people are supposed to have gotten.

Anyway, I'm going to bed finally. I hope to read some interesting details tomorrow.

oh. Well then i'll just un-bid and let the lawyers go about their business. If i'm to die...so be it.

Maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but haven't you said previously that you had made bids a few times? Why wouldn't you remember now?

Dola, I want to take that last post back. I went back and checked and you've been straight up about not bidding. Matter of fact you've shot up my trust meter after reading back. What is the case against Daddyus?

I was 50% expecting to get a message telling me I was converted today. I didn't. All I got was a return message from CR and a message that DC was good. Sorry DC.

Going to read through now and post my thoughts.

You know what sucks? What sucks is going back through both jail candidates posts and then deciding that you think both of them are good. That's what sucks.

path...i bid once for the sex slaves on like...D2 I think. After that I was just like "well I have no money...why bother." that and I was so damm confused by the game mechanics.

So I sent cronin a PM saying "i want to bid on both lawyers" figuring that if I was outbid for the 1st I'd have a conditional sort of bid on the 2nd. That was a snap-PM from me, I didn't go back to read the rules on bidding. But I suppose it would make sense I could only bid on one, so i'd assume cronin will just ignore my invalid-PM and i'll end up with no bid, so the lawyers will be free.

the case against me I think is that I was quite UTR for a few days, because I am STILL having a hard time with the game mechanics, and with all the bad luck we've drawn this game in terms of people.

Plus, everytime I did post something it was basically ignored/glossed over, which tends to make me not want to post.

I believe this entire post.

Well, you should bid anyway. You never know what will happen.

Out for the night.

not that I don't appreciate the support because I do, but WHY do you believe it? just saying you believe the whole thing without reason smacks of someone trying to buy trust when I show up good. and you're too good of a player to be saying something so conclusive as "i believe this entire post" without reason. I'll give you some benefit of the doubt because it's late night, but i'd really like to hear a why, or see if this raised anyone else's eyebrows.

thanks for the support though path. hopefully my questioning of you will make you support me even further as it makes you realize that I am indeed good, instead of causing a selfish backpedeling.

Thanks Pass. Doesn't look like it was needed but that puts you higher up my trust list.

OK. Where did the kill go? Unless the block is completely opaque and someone tried to hit me and missed and neither Pass nor I got a message about it (I severely doubt it) then it looks like there hasn't been a kill attempt at all. (DT and Mustang both didn't bid for the bodyguard - I was sort of hinting to them that they should claim it anyway, but they seemed to have missed that, luckily it doesn't appear to have mattered). Not only that but there appears to be a swordsman who KWhit bid on and didn't get the services of and KWhit is in the top tier of the wealth table. DC got Ardent. Anxiety got the sex slaves. And KWhit bid on and didn't get the swordsman.

Meanwhile the philosopher is unaccounted for. Does he convert? It sounded like it to me. Apparently the bad guys were as well as one of them has lied in order to take him. Thinking about it that might explain why there was no poisoning, maybe it's a game balance issue. Again I would like to ask to be scanned. I asked yesterday and I'm asking again. My role is too powerful to go without being checked.

The wealthiest men in Rome are:
Abeus Anxietus - Bid Pimp Bloke #2088/#2200 - Succeded #2414
Dodgeus Erchickus - Bid Ardent #2205 Succeded #2453
Kayus Whitus - Bid Swordsman #2224 Failed #2460

The following Senators are known to be extremely wealthy:
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus - Bid Swordsman #2071. Failed #2294.
Ironus Headus - Bid Senna #2269. Failed #2331
Passus Caglius - Bid Vitus Avidus #2069 Succeded #2399
Pathus Twelvus - Bid Ardent #2275. Failed #2340

The following Senators are of moderate wealth:
Autumnus Leavus - Failed on Ardent #2327
Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus - Bid Ardent #2192. Failed #2403
Chiefus Rumus - Bid Pimp #2059 Failed #2370
Narcizus Lispus - [Bid Swordsman] Failed #2353.

The following (remaining) Senators are of ordinary wealth for the Senatorial class:
Ardentus Enthusiastus - Failed on Pimp Dude #2440
Chubbus Chubbus - couldn't bid
Daddyus Torgous - Failed (unsurprisingly) on "both" lawyers #2678
Grammus Atticus - Bid Swordsman #2206. Failed #2328
Mustangus Sallus - No Bid #2613
Tyrus Ithus - Fastus Felix #2314

Here we go then and the results are, quite frankly, a bit, erm, anomalous. I've been trying to figure it out but, well, I can't.

I think I've got it.

I) Anxiety used the sex slaves and was upfront about what he did. We have no reason to doubt that.
2) Dodgerchick claims she got Ardent. As she's good I can't see any reason why she should lie. We also know that Autumn or Barkeep claimed that they placed a bid on Ardent and didn't succede.
3) KWhit claims he bid and failed on the swordsman. Which means that someone is lying
4) Coffee claims he bid and failed on the swordsman. Which means that someone is lying.
5) Ironhead claims he bid and failed on the philosopher. Which means that someone is lying.
6) Pass claims he bid and succeded on the bodyguard. He also states that he put it on me. He could be lying.
7) Path claims he bid on Ardent and failed. That would make sense if Dodgerchick was telling the truth.

So KWhit must be lying. Which in turn means that Coffee must be lying. Unless Dodgerchick was lying. In which case Autumn or Barkeep is lying.