Yesterday I went with claphamsa as my choice in the face of a (then) runaway vote.

I see no reason to change. His voting record still looks bad to me.

I can be talked into a few others--i.e. saldana, some others--but I am going to get my vote in early for once and see what develops.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Votes as of post #2501:

2 - Telle - Poli (2452), claphamsa (2467)
2 - claphamsa - hoopsguy (2476), Chief Rum (2501)
1 - saldana - Latham (2481)
1 - Lathum - saldana (2494)

Catching up.

while I agree 1 hour doesn't equal all day, in that 1 hour you managed to try and cast suspicion on me several times. Show me where I jumped on anyone. All I did was defend my position and my gameplay when you attacked it.

You know what I have had my fill of? People saying I have this "attitude." I think I politely defend my self when questioned and lay out the reasoning why I have been acting the way I am. Show me where I had "attitude" that was out of line for the questions being directed at me. You want to look for attitude look at PB's posts.

Your vote makes you look even worse considering it seems many others don't view me as a logical lynch candidate.


I never said my role would blow anyones minds. I said it is helpfull for the village, that is all. I am getting sick of people putting words in my mouth.


Again, show me where I have been hyper defensive.


I haven't made anything up, granted you may just be reminicing.


My role hasn't required any public action, again, I never claimed I had to vote PB or anyone else


don't be so certain

So these are all mine and Saldana's posts from yesterday. I hardly think I has hyper defensive and I certainly didn't act out of character at all. I responded to his inquires in the best manner I could and interjected my own opinions.

Remove the name Lathum from my posts and tell me if you think I did anything over the top.

hmm, somehow I multi quoted way more then I meant to.

lol

yeah, the point is read the conversation. If anything Saldana is attacking me and trying to get me on my heels, and then has the audacity to claim I had an attitude about it.

I'm going vote record today. I think Saldana has the worst vote record so I am going to:

Vote Saldana

and the rub is lets say I didn't defend myself, then people would be like "oh, he's being so quiet, what does he have to hide?"

Lathum, without going back and looking for quotes, can you really say you never had to vote PB as part of your role? I thougth you specfiically said that you voted him in order to "activate" your role or some such and suggested several times that the wolves are probably scared of what you "activated."

I never said it had to be PB I had to vote.

I should be around a bit this afternoon to follow the vote and work on candidates. But right now I'm interested in seeing a new lead candidate and how that shakes things up. So, I'm going to follow Hoops and CR for the moment.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

But you did say your vote was due to a mechanic, correct?

again, not much of an argument, my votes on d1 and d2 were horrible...my vote yesterday was solidly good for the village, but that doesnt mean anything...the wolves didnt know who the sympathizer was any more than we did.

for Autumn

no, I didn't say that. My vote was my own and purely based on my read at the time and who I felt was a likely wolf candidate.

your vote today is also a poor one :D ;)

well, I mentioned it this morning... but I wont be on between 345 and right around deadline ( I actually have a date tonight :D ) so, dont count on me to reveal to save myself or anythign :) also, dont vote for me, im a good guy :)

Clap, congrats on the date.

Are you suggesting you are not revealing now, or that you won't be revealing at all today?

If you are a good guy, then who is "railroading/Lathuming" you today now that Pass is not around?

Okay, I'm heading out tonight for a date. I won't be back until after lynch, but I do suspect I might be able to make an appearance between 5:30 and 6.

Anyway, I wonder why hoops isn't getting more pressure from yesterday's votes by our Sympathizer. So I'm going to push the hoops button.

Vote hoopsguy

Not sure why hoops is getting votes. I think Saldana is a better candidate.

If Saldana = Wolf that is good for hoops, if Saldana=Villager thats bad for hoops. I'm not sure the reverse is true.

And I don't have a date tonight. I will be working on the 2 ten page research papers I have due next week in addition to all my other work.

All of you have dates tonight, a date with destiny and your destiny is to be here for lynch!

I wont be around to reveal if need be :(

yeah, its a rarity for me! i got no skillz!

Just remember you're the man!

Not even bow hunting skills?

It is easy to get confused on a date.

So does that mean you COULD reveal if you were here?

Actually.. don't answer that.

Just talk a lot about werewolf and FOFC. She'll eat it up.

Clap, if we are making a really poor lynch here then it probably makes sense to try and persuade now rather than just saying "don't lynch me, I'm out at deadline".

Obviously we want to get a wolf.
Obviously if we miss not all villagers are equal.

So, help us make a better choice if you are a wrong one. Convince us why you are a wrong one. And, if you are feeling really frisky, help build a case for voting another direction rather than just leaving an unexplained vote on another candidate.

im sure she will :P

bow hunting? I shot a bow once..... I prefer an AR 15 :)

Agreed. Make sure to mention to mention how awesome the Dungeon game that Abe ran was. If possible spend atleast all of the meal you have together describing that game.

well by my voting record im a great lynch :) but im not a wolf :(

was that convincing?

dont know what else to say, Ive voted badly, I still dont get the argument on EF..... but he turned up bad.

didnt play in it :)

In all seriousness though I update my girlfriend every night on how the games are going.....she actually brings it up most of the time. Weird that she actually takes interest in this shit.

it seems wierd to me that we have so little info at this point in the game, but I guess its only been 4 days :) just 10 days worth of posts!

lucky :)

And, don't just tell her about it. Show her. I'd suggest using your food to represent all the characters, or perhaps mold into a map of the dungeon.

even better, just tell her how awesome it was to read along with it!

see if she has an iphone and can bring it up?

Or whip out your Iphone and just be like, wait a sec, I gotta check werewolf, it's almost deadline!

Keep the posts coming, I want to make the top 10!

I often tell my wife about WW exploits.

you could go the Abe route and just not have anyone die for a week.

I tell my wife about the game, it's one of the kinds of games she doesn't mind me playing, just as long as I am not on here when she gets home :)

That's a good idea

my wife actually played in a few games but it wasn't her thing.

I actually remember one game Saldana came to visit and all 3 of us were playing in the game. It was interesting trying to skirt the issue.

Oh and bring along the dice so you can show her how the combat worked, or atleast how you figured it worked while you were reading along.

My wife requests updates whenever she's having a hard time falling asleep.

Epic.

Or you could bring me back! :)

Yeah, she thinks the strategy in WW is interesting, she doesn't care too much for me playing text sims though.

But then I would have to change the wolves.

GAME EVENT!!!!!!

That being said.... dont vote for me :)

Back to the game (interesting though that little tangent was ;) ) - I've had suspicions about Telle for a few days now, and will put a placeholder vote out there for now.

VOTE TELLE

This is not set in stone, though - will be looking over the thread to see if I get bad feelings about anyone else.

Ever since my wife met Lathum, Molly Murphy and DaddyTorgo in person for dinner, she started asking how my "wolfboard game" was going. She finally stopped after about 3 months of me saying I haven't been playing lately.

Clap, although you have used more posts than Lerriuqs did yesterday - and have not voted for yourself - I'm still not really finding arguments here to change my vote.

I'm not trying to make you say something in the thread that you are not prepared to say. But I would be stunned if you are the seer; it would mean that I have totally whiffed on figuring this out all game long. Which would leave bodyguard as a public role that you actually could reveal.

In terms of the private roles, there is probably room for some discussion about what you may be able to do. I know there is with mine.

I just don't like changing my vote, this late in the game, on a "don't lynch me :)"

Why are you pushing for a reveal from Clap?

Seriously Hoops, this pings me as wolfish as hell.

not trying to use this as an out at all, but this will probably be my last post of the day..i have a bit of work to finish up, and since today is my wedding anniversary, something tells me WW is not going to be in my evening plans.

i will however say, I am not a wolf.

Happy Annivarsary

Because he says he is a good guy and he is gone in 15-20 minutes for the duration. My vote is on him and I'm willing to entertain changing a vote if I feel like I've been given a reason to do so.

Because he is suggesting that he has something to reveal but is not doing so. If he never makes the suggestion that there may be a reveal for him to make I don't push him like this.

I want to be making a good vote today. That is pretty much my whole driver in this line of conversation.

It reads like you are fishing for the seer.

Dubb, I would be stunned if he is the seer.

I would also think it is world-class awful play to leave for the day as the seer in the position that he is currently in.

Votes as of post #2565:

3 - Telle - Poli (2452), claphamsa (2467), MartinD (2558)
3 - claphamsa - hoopsguy (2476), Chief Rum (2501), Autumn (2513)
2 - saldana - Latham (2481), dubb (2509)
1 - Lathum - saldana (2494)
1 - hoopsguy - Abe (2521)

Just to clarify - I'm not the seer so that is not why I would be stunned.

I've just thought that I had the seer identified very early in the game. I've considered a couple of other choices as seer, but at no point has Clap made sense to me in that role.

The kicker is the notion of leaving the thread for good on D5, tied for the lead, with a list of cleared villagers that goes unpublished while hoping for the best.

I just cannot wrap my head around him in that role.

dont have much choice :)

that was a hell of a fun night. just went back to the rattlesnake the other day - they changed the menu and made it more mexican.

anyways - now that you're playing again you can tell her to start asking again.

oh, and tell her i said hi! *waves to Mrs. AlanT*

you make it sound like im leaving becasue im bored with the game or something... I have a rare thing called a life :)

if he's got a date and he's getting some 'tang then i'm sure being the seer is the last thing on his mind.

and when i say rare, I mean for me :)

Oh baby that's it! Call me your seer! Oh yeah!

lol

"the third eye"

Clap, I'm saying that if you have a different deadline than others then you have to play to that deadline. Obviously there is a managed risk element here.

This is in no way suggesting that you should put life on hold for the game. Just work the game into the hours that you have available. Since you have published what those hours are, I'm taking now to ask you questions I wont' be able to later.

If my vote is on you when you leave I'm probably not moving it. Because I believe it is more likely you are a wolf than a villager, let alone a significantly roled villager.

I'm out for now - will be back on in a wee while, but will be finished for the night in about an hour and a half.

I have about a half hour and then I'm out of here until after deadline. I could go with a vote on either clap or saldana as both have bad voting records (not that I don't). I'll most likely put my vote on whoever has the most number of votes at the time, in a self-preservation move.

hmmm

Wow - so the three people at the bottom rung of my (dis)trust list for today (Clap, Saldana, and Telle) are all going to be out at the deadline.

Interesting, but doubtfully indicative of anything I suspect hoops.

Yeah. Kinda sucks. But I have a sewing class 5:30-8:30 tonight and since it's already paid for and materials bought, I really can't go skipping it.

i will be around, but likely on my phone. dropped my laptop in the mail for service today so i will have my phone and my POS backup laptop where the power connector doesn't fit the plug so if i jiggle it it is prone to disconnecting

I wonder if Clap and Saldana are really going to the sewing class too, but just using other reasons as excuses.

i intend to be on on my backup-laptop, but it's always a crapshoot how long i spend on it before it frustrates me. it also doesn't have wifi built in so i have to sit right by the cable modem which is pretty much in the middle of nowhere in the house...i end up lying on the floor usually

Well I'm starting to pack up at work, so I want to get my vote in. I don't know what to make of clap's non-reveal. I think if he was a main character he would have either told all or kept quiet. Sorta half-hinting like that doesn't sit well with me. Plus he's the current lead vote getter besides me and I'd like to stick around awhile longer :)

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Votes as of post #2587:

3 - Telle - Poli (2452), claphamsa (2467), MartinD (2558)
4 - claphamsa - hoopsguy (2476), Chief Rum (2501), Autumn (2513), Telle (2587)
2 - saldana - Latham (2481), dubb (2509)
1 - Lathum - saldana (2494)
1 - hoopsguy - Abe (2521)

fairly fragmented for like 210 mins till deadline

VOTE TELLE

I went with my gut on her yesterday, and I am still not convinced she is in the clear...plus I am not sure I see the evidence against Clap (although his non-reveal almost pushed me towards him) or Saldana, but I can be convinced if need be.

Yet to vote: The Jackal, PackerFanatic, DaddyTorgo

that's an interesting vote by PF, moving to tie it back up at 4-4 with just 2 votes in play.

VOTE SALDANA

Subject to change, unlikely I'd change to Telle because I'm not a huge fan of the people voting for her.

I'm really hoping that we have at least two good choices among our top three.

Since it doesn;t look like hoops is getting any heat, and I want my vote to matter.


unvote hoops
Vote Telle

Had a quick check back - of the three candidates for lynching tonight, I'm least inclined to vote for claphamsa, although this is more because I'm more suspicious of the other two. I don't like some of the moves that saldana has made, particularly in the day 2 voting (introducing a new candidate late in the day in a well-developed two-way vote?), but I'm not seeing enough there to convince me to switch away from Telle - voting history is not good, and I've been getting bad vibes from some of her posts.

interesting - not sure how much movement there will be between now and deadline but lets at least see what this does to people

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Mercy.