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You're fired! :D |
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Yeah I am going to shock you maybe but I agree with what you are saying and you have changed my mind on Gundy. Especially with what is coming out afterwards from other players. Why can't it just start out as the guy is an asshole and uses borderline racist techniques though instead of crying about a shirt? |
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Yeah this reeks of Hilary "fainting" on the campaign trail. These are old people (my parent's age) doing exhausting jobs that would tire me out at 45. I have no idea what the Lincoln Project is though. |
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Well, the shirt complaints worked. |
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The Lincoln Project is basically Republicans trying to convince other Republicans not to vote for Trump. So I agree 100% with you and Albion that this isn't a big deal, but I also don't think anyone on this board is the target audience for this ad. |
Some of this runs on FNC and is targeted at a one man audience just like the Trump campaign ran ads in DC last week, where all of 6 Republicans actually live. I'll be thrilled when the President doesn't watch TV for 14 hours a day again for targeted advertising.
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White House is apparently suing John Bolton to prevent release of his book.
But, according to legal people I follow, the lawsuit is not structured in a way that would actually do that (in terms of who is being joined in the suit, what relief they are technically asking for, etc.) Which makes me think that Bolton and the WH are in on this together. The "lawsuit" is a publicity stunt to drive sales in exchange for the "tell all" book not actually telling anything that would hurt Trump. It will be a bunch of stuff we already know and, like, one small nugget that we don't that won't change anyone's mind about anything. Win for Trump. Win for Bolton. Win for the Swamp. Everything's a con. |
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is that....cheddar? or just congealed grease? |
I read the intro to the book on Kindle and what a fucking, self serving, pile of fucking shit Bolton is. It's I know the real truth, I did the real stuff, illegal shit was going on all around me, and I knew it! The democrats fucked up because the impeachment wasn't BROAD enough, because so much illegal shit was going down, everywhere. Fuck this guy.
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I am, 100%. Actually, not so much a target since I'm already convinced, but people like me. That said, this type of ad isn't necessary. They have several others that are far better. |
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Yeah I agree here as much as I liked seeing the ads from Lincoln Project, sometimes they stoop too low. If it not okay to make fun of a disabled journalist, then it shouldn't be okay to make fun of a disabled anybody. I like Repbulicans against Trump videos more. So far they show disenchanted lifelong Republican voters saying they are done with the Republicans and will vote for Biden this time instead of voting for Trump again. I wish there were some Democratic groups out there making ads like this. |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...virus-vaccine/
That sorry son of a bitch is going to give anti-vaxxers ammunition for generations. |
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This has never smelled right from the start. Bolton is as crooked as they come and there's never been a ton of smoke around the idea that he and Trump have bad blood beyond the usual amount between Trump and anyone in his cabinet. I've never thought what angle Bolton could attack Trump from either. Like the usual lame interoffice "he poops and doesn't flush" junk but not anything that would move the dial. Hardly anyone in the country gives two whits about foreign policy. I mean, hell, Eric Trump /himself/ released his own emails about meeting with Russia and that got a collective shrug. Book selling con has always seemed the most likely outcome and, of course, outlets like CNN are going right along with it with pieces like "what could Trump fear from Bolton". The answer is nothing, stupids. Nothing. SI |
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Looks like Papa John's pizza that has been dipped in excessive amount of garlic sauce. |
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Would be totally on brand for the Trump administration to fast track a vaccine that ends up having dreadful long term consequences for our entire population. |
Maybe we can go all I Am Legend!
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Well maybe we were a little quick to assume nothing explosive was going to be in Bolton's book:
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How is this any different from Obama telling Putin to lay off until after elections and he could work with him after? Still disagree with both situations, but I don't see any difference. If anything, at least if Xi tries to help Trump it in theory helps farmers. |
Asking a foreign leader to help you win a election is pretty fucked up. Also Bolton is a complete coward for not speaking up earlier.
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It was started by some Never Trumper and everyone pretty much laughed at him. Not a good example of "cancel culture". |
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Eh, it still comes down to he said/Xi said. |
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I'm...not so sure that's quite the same thing? |
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It’s more of a grapefruit & oranges situation for me: they are different, but in the same family. |
The funniest part of all of this is that Bolton was a vile lying piece of shit (which he is) to all of you but now is completely believable because he said something bad about Trump.
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I don't know that anyone view Bolton any differently. He has always been a vile, war mongering, snake in the grass, who is all about himself and his agenda. Trump just happens to exceed even his low moral compass (in his eyes) so now he is turning snitch. Besides, I think we have heard enough in the past to know this administration is likely the most unorganized, dysfunctional clusterfuck in this countries history, so what more could he possibly add that casts it in any lower light? Edit: and what Grant said, his own personal gain is much more important than calling out an inept, corrupt President or he would have testified before congress. But why do for free what you can make a cool million on. |
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But despite all of that he isn't lying about this? Why exactly? Because he said it about Trump? :banghead: |
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I think there's a perception of this, but I think it's fantasy play by Fox N Friends deep thinkers. It's not at all how I've see it. That guy is STILL a complete fucking tool. Fuck him and his horse. |
He's definitely vile (he most definitely still wants a war with Iran). But was there a lot of concern that he was a massive liar?
That part seems made up to me... He always struck me as being so vile because he said what he exactly believed and didn't care that he came across as a warmongering weasel. |
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Sorry but this is just like jailhouse snitch territory to me. Clearly an ax to grind and a proven liar. But hey he will sell a million books because he says "Trump bad" I guess? |
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Because what he says about Trump is easy to believe given Trump is a garbage excuse for a human |
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Because what he says about Trump is easy to believe given Trump is a garbage excuse for a human |
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What? I said people will believe him because it's about Trump. What if his "tell all" said shit about other politicians or Democrats? I'm guessing most of you would say consider the source? |
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Yeah he helped start the Iraq war for one. |
Dare I say it's fair to say he's not lying about this stuff because the White House & Department of Justice has had a copy for months and absolutely nobody has accused him of lying, they've only said he's revealing classified information, as far as I know. And it's a claim that can be verified by a second world leader, one way or another.
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Exactly my point. Bolton is one as well, in some respects even worse. Sorry but the Iraq war is worse to me than anything Trump has done. Not equating Trump doesn't suck, just that this is a non-story to me. Would love to see zero copies sold, but he knows the American public eats up Trump stuff. |
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Of course he's not completely believable. If Congress had been allowed to do the oversight they wanted, which included Bolton testifying, they could have investigated his claims. I don't trust anything in his book until its been investigated by Congress/law enforcement/journalists. But really panerd from what you know of Trump, do you really doubt its not accurate? |
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If America needs this book to validate Trump is bad, then he should sell no copies because everyone should know. I have no use for either of them. |
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Does that mean that everyone involved, including Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice is a liar that can never be trusted on anything ever again? Because I am curious about how far that goes. Because it seems like Cheney and Rumsfeld were leading that train and got everyone else on board, either by persuasion or bullying. Bolton, had been calling for an invasion of Iraq since the mid 90s and recently admitted that even if there weren't WMDs, getting rid of Hussein was a good idea - he's always been very into regime change. |
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The whole situation is just why I hate politics in general and a big chunk of the American public. I know, I know it sounds like I think I am better than everyone else but I don't really. Its just sad this asshole is going to be going coast to coast on his tell all book extravaganza on "news" stations from every side of the spectrum instead of sitting in a cell. And why? Because they know the American public eat it up. |
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Yes say what you will about Trump but he is no warmonger (relatively speaking of course, every US president in my lifetime with I guess the exception of Carter follows warmongering US foreign policy), and Bolton is the worst kind. I don't live this stuff 24/7 to come up with counter examples on the fly but I'm sure there have been thousands of lies to try to get us into wars that Bolton was involved in. And he is pissed off Trump wouldn't go to war with Iran and has sour grapes that he was fired. |
Bolton is just trying to get out early on the thousand or so "tell-all" books that toolbags that wouldn't dare testify in front of either house of Congress are going to publish to "redeem themselves" and trash Trump after the fact. Don't care, won't spend a dime on their cowardice.
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There are already plenty of well vetted books out there with plenty of unappealing things to say about trump and his administration. Like this one that I've been reading. |
Didn't Trump himself say China ought to investigate Biden? On the WH lawn, as I recall. This is what happens when you are a lying POS with no morals - everything said about you is believable based on what comes out of your own mouth.
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Isn't there a theory that is often repeated in this thread: Trump has little imagination and only accuses those of that which he has done himself SI |
So if the Feds charge Bolton for disclosing classified information, then I guess we'll find out what's true.
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The Lincoln Project should run this as an ad on Fox News. |
Fuck Bolton and his money grab.
That being said, he's made a number of statements that can at least be corroborated. Now comes the work of double-checking his assertions. |
Nothing coming out of the book is really new. We knew Trump would put his own interests ahead of the country. We knew he was dumb as shit.
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Odds that we found out Trump donors/associates sold them to the government at more than triple the going rate? It's like 85%, right (with like 14% of the remaining 15% on the racist "but it was a French study so I trusted it because I can't trust the Chinese") SI |
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Well I guess there will be enough for Trump to have on hand then when he needs another dose |
I wonder if Trump's message will still be, don't vote for the feeble guy that's soft on China?
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100% This shit is going to get minimal attention on conservative airwaves and he's building China up as a new cold war to his supporters. His strategy isn't changing at this point. Attack china, attack dems as socialist, attack anyone that isn't a base supporter, and hope for an electoral college miracle. |
How does trump get any credit for anything to do with china? I thought he was going to get tough on the South China Sea? He really hasn't done much of anything that has had any substantial impact on them to the extent that he was promising.
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So there hasn't been a trade war with China the last few years? Wasn't that one of the major news stories before BLM and COVID?
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His supporters would point to his tariffs, I think
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But has it actually amounted to anything?
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The tariffs that americans have to pay, with no appreciable changes in China's trade?
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Who cares when the taxpayers can subsidize those hurt by the trade war? |
Doesn't seem like much has come from the trade war except a bunch of welfare for farmers.
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It hasn't amounted to much. However when they signed Phase I in Dec there were hopes there would be more but then we know what happened with 2020 "annus horribilis". Regardless, I did appreciate his effort to try something different but unfortunately nothing much has changed and it's too late now because China will just wait him out. |
With all the angst about cancel culture, it's important to realize that Trump and Barr are using the DoJ to stop publication of a book because it's embarrassing to the President. That seems at least as important as a picture on a processed syrup bottle.
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With the latest clash between China and India, if I was Trump I would take the opportunity to ramp up the strategic relationship with India and ultimately help be the counterweight to China.
China is a military and economic competitor to India. What better friend to have there especially since we know Pakistan is frenemy and in us leaving Afghanistan, Pakistan's importance is decreased. |
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We've been working on improving Indian relations for more than a decade now and seeing them as a balance to China. Though I think that's been more difficult with Modi in charge as he's looking like yet another right wing populist SI |
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Just as long as you don't go to the ER in like 5-10 years with any breathing problems because you know that's rarely a medical issue for anyone! It's all absurd. Of course Trump is absurd I really thought it went without saying in the echo chamber that he sucks. Indiana University Professor Apologizes for Triggering Medical Students With ‘I Can’t Breathe’ Exam Question – Reason.com My favorite part was from the comments... "Give it two weeks until 4Chan makes the international sign for “I’m choking” a covert white supremacist sign." |
Supreme Court upheld DACA. Said the Trump admin's actions to end it were arbitrary and capricious. Chief Justice wrote the opinion.
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Dear leader is going to be beside himself.
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This is the correct take, proper credit when/where it's due. |
You know, I always thought "W" was the worst president of my generation. Trump has destroyed that by a mile.
He and the majority of his idiot supporter have disgraced this country, they've embarrassed themselves for what they are. The damage the Trump administration and his sycophants have done is unparalleled. I hope they are purged from the system in November and I hope some of them are thrown into prison. I have yet to be inspired with confidence that they won't try to suppress votes, get authoritarianism abroad support or just outright steal the election but it is my hope that if Biden wins, they purge and purge Trump's cronies. The amazing thing is: if Trump had any bit of self restraint he'd probably be coasting to re-election. |
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Just. Damn.
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I still think W was worse than Trump. Trump still hasn't got us into a purely optional war that cost us trillions of dollars and untold lives. |
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Whew another one I wasn't sure would get the votes |
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Let's not give him any ideas. |
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So is this where he dissolves the Supreme Court? |
What a sad human being. Maybe the Tulsa rally will make him feel better.
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This just in; nothing in the SCOTUS's job is about liking you or not liking you, POTUS.
*slams face into desk until a slimy ooze drips out of every orifice* |
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This and Frederick Douglas. |
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I thought "trigger" was kind of a mocking word. I didn't realize it was used sincerely as well, to the extent of being in university apologies. College must be such a different experience today than it was when I went. We're going to have a massive generation gap. Where I'm not sure that people who came of age in say, the 70s, were that much different, and didn't have experiences so different, as people who came of age in the 90s and early 00s. |
Hope that aide has her resume updated |
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What a stupid goddamn administration. All they had to do was give *any* reasonable excuse to shut DACA down through proper procedures and Roberts would have agreed. This has happened a few times now. The Republic has been hanging on through their incompetence. |
Count down to "Justice Roberts is a disgrace to 'merica" in 3......2......
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I had the exact same thought - I assumed "trigger" and " microaggression" and all those terms were things coined by people mocking what was actually going on. Like PC Principal. I didn't realize they were accepted terms used in everyday conversations with students as legitimate, non-ironical discussion points. And I have a rising senior in college. |
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I once accidentally undercut an attorney I was working with in a similar fashion during a contentious deposition and he was not happy about it at the time, although it became a running joke/story later on. Good times. |
My appointments are incompetent and my SCOTUS nominations are a disgrace.
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Tbf, Roberts was a W appointee
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Yeah. I'm just assuming he's in on the Fuck Gorsuch conservative movement.
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Triggers and microaggressions are both technical terms from psychology and sociology. For example, folks with PTSD can be triggered by a reminder of their trauma which brings on flashbacks, or a rape survivor could have symptoms triggered by a reminder of their assault. Microaggression is a term coined to be able to talk about those small acts of prejudice or discrimination which don't amount to an attack or an intentional act of racism, like touching a Black person's hair or assuming a woman is a nurse not a doctor, but which build up to an upsetting amount over time for the person subjected to them. These are real terms with real use and meaning. |
I wouldn't worry too much about an apology at a school. Without knowing the details, like how many students complained, what was the nature of the class prior to the exam, etc., it's hard to know what was going on. A lot of times admin pressures professors to apologize just to move past issues. There is very little appetite to fight out issues.
At my institution a faculty member had to apologize because one student out of years of students complained that a particular lesson was sexual harassment. The administration just wanted the problem to go away and wasn't about to fight for academic freedom. |
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I know what they mean. I've never heard them used in anything other than social media or satire, though. |
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Yeah I did too. Especially the word "safe space" which I just assumed was like an Adam Carolla bit mocking the weak youth etc... Then the "poop swatiska" happened at Mizzou when the football team quit on Gary Pinkel and the crazy professor said no cameras these kids are in their safe space. That was when my niece came to fill me in that a lot of this stuff is for real. She said a guy went into a corner during a lecture during a history class and the rest of the kids have to leave the room while he cooled down. Can't even fathom what some of the West Coast schools are like. ![]() |
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Is it bad that I actually laughed at loud at that? |
Trump claimed today that Bolton was against saying Coronavirus was from China, but he said it anyway.
Bolton left the WH in September of 2019. |
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