Day 2

CrimsonFox votes CrimsonFox (1) 591
CommoSoldier votes CrimsonFox (2) 615
NTN votes CrimsonFox (3) 644
Lathum votes CrimsonFox (4) 661
Danny votes CommoSoldier (1) 664
Narcizo votes CommoSoldier (2) 669
SnDvls votes Zinto (1) 674
McKerney votes CommoSoldier (3) 689

J23 votes Mauboy (1) 713
Dzilla votes Mauboy (2) 721
CheifRum votes CrimsonFox (5) 723
NTN unvotes CrimsonFox (4) 724
NTN votes Mauboy (3) 724
Zinto votes Mauboy (4) 730
MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5) 732
Tyrith votes Mauboy (5) 734
Jackal votes Mauboy (6) 739
Zinto unvotes Mauboy (5) 741
Zinto votes CommoSoldier (4) 741
Saldana votes CrimsonFox (6) 747

McKerney unvotes CommoSoldier (3) 753
McKerney votes Mauboy (6) 753
Zinto unvotes CommoSoldier (2) 771
Zinto votes Mauboy (7) 772
Danny unvotes CommoSoldier (1) 773
Danny votes CrimsonFox (7) 773
Mauboy votes CrimsonFox (8) 776
CrimsonFox unvotes CrimsonFox (7) 778
CrimsonFox votes Mauboy (8)
Jackal unvotes Mauboy (7) 779
Jackal votes CrimsonFox (8) 779
CrimsonFox unvotes Mauboy (6) 799
CrimsonFox votes CrimsonFox (9) 799

9 - CrimsonFox - CommoSoldier, Lathum, ChiefRum, MrBug, Saldana, Danny, Mauboy, Jackal, CrimsonFox
1 - CommoSoldier - Narcizo
1 - Zinto - SnDvls
6 - Mauboy - J23, Dzilla, NTN, Tyrith, McKerney, Zinto

No Vote: PackerFanatic, DaddyTorgo

A clear improvement as we only have two roled villagers on the block with two vanillas keeping them company.

Day 3

Jackal votes Tyrith (1) 830
Zinto votes CommoSoldier (1) 860
Narcizo votes Chief Rum (1) 863
Dzilla votes CommoSoldier (2) 870
Danny votes Chief Rum (2) 881
PackerFanatic votes CommoSoldier (3) 882
McKerney votes CommoSoldier (4) 888
Tyrith votes MrBug (1) 897

CommoSoldier votes Danny (1) 904
Narcizo unvotes Chief Rum (1) 940
Narcizo votes CommoSoldier (5) 940
Lathum votes Narcizo (1) 943
SnDvls votes PackerFanatic (1) 948
Danny unvotes Chief Rum (0) 953
Chief Rum votes SnDvls (1) 957
NTN votes Tyrith (2) 959
NTN unvotes Tyrith (1) 965
MrBug votes Lathum (1) 966
SnDvls unvotes PackerFanatic (9) 971
SnDvls votes Chief Rum (1) 971
Saldana vote Narcizo (2) 985
NTN votes CommoSoldier (6) 991

CommoSoldier unvotes Danny (0) 996
Danny votes Dzilla (1) 1004
Dzilla unvotes CommoSoldier (5) 1007
CommoSoldier votes Dzilla (2) 1008
CommoSoldier unvotes Dzilla (1) 1009
Danny unvotes Dzilla (0) 1012
DaddyTorgo votes Tyrith (2) 1014
Danny votes McKerney (1) 1023
CommoSoldier votes McKerney (2) 1028
Dzilla votes McKerney (3) 1032
Saldana unvotes Narcizo (1) 1034
Saldana votes McKerney (4) 1034
MrBug unvotes Lathum (0) 1037
MrBug votes McKerney (5) 1037
SnDvls unvotes Chief Rum (0) 1045
SnDvls votes McKerney (6) 1045
NTN unvotes CommoSoldier (4) 1051
NTN votes Narcizo (2) 1051

2 - Tyrith - Jackal, DaddyTorgo
4 - CommoSoldier - Zinto, PackerFanatic, McKerney, Narcizo
1 - MrBug - Tyrith
2 - Narcizo – Lathum, NTN
1 - Sndvls - Chief Rum
6 – McKerney – Danny, CommoSoldier, Dzilla, Saldana, MrBug, SnDvls

We can't presume that DZ, Sally, Bug or Sunny aren't baddies just because they voted McKerney - looks like SnDvls was pressured into it, at least. Still it's a point in their favour.

Oh and fair warning. Anyone who wants to discuss what strategy we think the wolves can be expected to use tonight is going to get a nightfall vote from me.

Currently liking DT and NTN as baddies. Keep coming back to Lathum as the conversion on day two. As far as I'm concerned there has to have been a pretty clear signal before night two or I don't understand where the conversion landed.

Anyway, got to go for the now.

This is just a vote on one of the folks we know nothing about.

Vote Dzilla

just to keep this on the current page

You have my permission to lynch me tonight.

I'm actually hoping you are lying about who you scanned. You don't need to say either way (and I doubt you will), but it makes it further clouds things, which is about the best we can hope for

Sorry for being so absent this game. I should have a good bit of time today/tonight to give some thoughts. Given the people that have been lynched and their order, I'm leaning towards either Saldana or DaddyTorgo as two face right now. I'll try to do some post diving to see if I can find anything that might back up my feeling.

Well..off to go sub, I'll be able to monitor for the next 7 hours

Huh?

So at this point all reveals are worthless and it is like last game where we have to take them with some disbelief since they will never be confirmed or denied.

He will have clarity and see who goes where

I disagree. We know the roles are in the game, or at least I'm pretty sure they're all in the game, and we know the only ones who can be converted are the deranged citizens, who are already bad guys basically. Unless there are counter-reveals, we should take them at face value I think. The scans on the other hand are a bit less straight forward.

I agree with this. We know exactly which roles are in the game and how many of that type are in the game. The one thing we will not know now are the roled villagers, but I tend to believe they are all genuine which really narrows things a bit. So we go from 15 unknowns to 10 with 4 of them being bad, 2 of which are supervillians. We are behind now, but if we can take out one of the big ones tonight I think there is a good shot we still win this. Especially if it is freeze we take out since Two-face can't kill mau. Granted we will not know who we take out, but we will hopefully know from the NKs.

Unvote ChiefRum

If I'd have known you'd reveal so soon I would have waited for Mau's scan. Contrary to your belief, I was only voting you because I thought you may be two face and if he came back and cleared you I would have taken it off.

Dola, as for voters moving to McKerney I'd say it is probably 50/50 in that case. Danny and I were calling people out who were on asking if they were going to switch, so they had a choice, but not much of one. Also, based on actions yesterday I think it is probable that DZ is probably a vanilla.

Double dola, should be getting back from work earlier today to do more analysis. One possibilty for Two Face might be PackerFanatic. I think he came on Day Two and said something, but never left a vote. Not sure what voting was like at the time, but maybe he didn't want to bring any suspicions upon himself.

Given that there was a NK night one, I'm less inclined to think that PF is 2face given the lack of a day1 vote. It's possible, but I don't think it's as high of a percentage chance as most others, so I won't be going there today I don't think.

I am inclined to vote PF today for not moving off of Commo. He may or may not have been around, but I think it warrants exploration at this point.

Vote PackerFan

Thinking PF was Two Face with his lack of activity was essentially why I vote for SnDvls yesterday. I would be shocked if PF was Two Face.

Chief, any chance you were protecting someone we haven't cleared on night two? It would help matters if you had.

For example, I would be happy if you protected Lathum (although I'm sure he wouldn't be).

I was protecting you, actually.

I protected Danny on N1. I almost protected hoops, but since hoops got a little heat on Day One and was a natural BG protect option (and keep in mind, I didn't know hoops himself was a BG, I thought there was another guy out also thinking hoops as a protect target), I decided to go with another strong player instead.

As I said, I protected you on Night Two. Another strong player who might be targeted.

I will of course keep my chosen ward from last night a secret.

I prefer to be killed. My participation has been limited anyway and with no role reveals I'll be pretty disengaged.

I would agree that, looking back on the vote history, PF's vote smells the worst to me. I'm heavily inclined to vote for him today - and I'm curious to know why CR thinks it's unlikely PF is Two Face.

Narc's Lathum as night 2 conversion thought makes some sense to me, although I think Lathum may have checked out on this game at this point.

I already revealed....I'm just a vanilla villager and have always been

My argument on PF is purely on activity. I don't think PF would use "real life" as a protection as Two Face.

Two Face killed on Night One, and converted Mr. Freeze on Night Two. We know Two face has been around and active.

PF missed votes and claimed to have forgotten the game started. He has been very quiet even given that. I just don't get the sense that someone that disconnected and who claimed to forget the game would be Two Face.

Now, I could see him being a Disturbed Citizen. That takes a lot less effort, especially with mau already revealed.

Seems reasonable to me.

From that perspective, then, Two-Face is one of six people:

Myself
DT
Dzilla
NTN
saldana
MrBug

Probability dictates that I'm going to wind up voting for one of the non-me people on this list, although I think there's a good chance PF is bad and Lathum was converted. Do you guys have an opinion on how DT's explanation for his D2 missed vote might tie into this?

Night deadline will be the ordinary time tonight. The next day deadline will be Monday, unless people feel a Sunday deadline would work for them.

VOTE NTN

he's on the list made by everyone is all

Two-Face it the one role you definitely are not - mau scanned you night two.

if you do a weekend vote/action I won't be on at all....not that I matter, but just giving you a heads up

J23, on the other hand, could be Two-Face.

I could be, but I'm not. :)

Ah, yeah, I was wondering how you got to 10 guys - J23 didn't have a vote on day 3.

I'm not following the votes of any of the other unknowns that have voted before me - I'm content to let the people we know are good decide who lives and who dies today. My choice is just a gut call without particular substance behind it.

VOTE SALDANA

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I think it's vital that we try to take a supervillain off the table to limit the kills. Admittedly a deranged citizen wouldn't be a disaster but, really, what do we have to go on there? I've read through and not seen anything I can see as a signal on day or night two. If anyone has another explanation as to where the day two kill went then they're welcome to come out with it.

His votes have been what I'd expect from a wolf. Admittedly they're what I'd expect from him as a villager as well but there you go. The clincher for me is I don't know where the kill went on day two. I presumed Chief or Commo but with mau's scan and Commo's uncontested reveal I can't find it. I think it has to have been put on Lathum.

Vote Lathum

Presuming Lathum is Freeze you can expect Two-Face to counter this and then the other deranged citizens to fall in line, so I'm not overly hopeful that the village can swing this vote. The benefit, if Lathum is Freeze, is that mau lives another day. I wish I could be around to discuss this with Chief, Commo, Zinto and mau but that's not to be.

Aside from cr, zinto, and myself has anybody else revealed? I'm not seeing it but I just want to make sure as I am on my phone. I'm gonna try getting 100% caught up again.

Of the unrevealed I've no idea who might be Two-Face or the deranged citizens. Anyone wanting to make a suggestion of a reveal for me is welcome within the next 30 minutes or so. Mau shouldn't forget to get a scan in.

Yes I forgot commo

Dude! :eek:

I'm Arkham - Zinto is cleared by the combination of you and me.

Chief and Commo is there something obvious I'm missing with the night two kill?

Oh nos! Nark outs himself. :cool:

Anyone wanting to make a suggestion of a scan for me is welcome within the next 30 minutes or so.

I think the trusteds have to put out a united vote to prevent wolfie interference.

Given the fact that Saldana was pushing the wolf hall of fame theory earlier I would have thought he would be voting Lathum at this stage.

Just want to say that Lathum behaved pretty much the same way last time he was a wolf (whenever that was - Princess Bride I think). I realise that it's his schedule but I think he's marginally more engaged as a villager.