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Mr. Wednesday 11-30-2006 07:59 PM

hoops, I've said more than once that I don't think it's possible for the parties involved to comment upon it without a full role reveal, which is in nobody's interest unless they're on the block.

Alan T 11-30-2006 08:01 PM

P.S. before I go, I don't like taking shots at people, but Blade, its a little tiring always being your target. I honestly don't know if you are good or bad but I'll enjoy watching your remarks when I turn up good either way.

If you want to know why the shilling discrepency, ask Chief. I have no clue.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1321380)
P.S. before I go, I don't like taking shots at people, but Blade, its a little tiring always being your target. I honestly don't know if you are good or bad but I'll enjoy watching your remarks when I turn up good either way.

If you want to know why the shilling discrepency, ask Chief. I have no clue.

We can talk about it after the game, but to be honest you were my most trusted person in the game until about mid-day today when cronin said bad guys might be able to bribe and what not. Then you worried me, and then you said 7. But until then, you were my most trusted ally.

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:05 PM

Anyone have a vote count?

hoopsguy 11-30-2006 08:06 PM

MrW, I'll drop it if you guys are confident we have a bad guy. When I was asking the questions we (the collective group on Alan) didn't sound terribly confident on our vote beyond Blade, who was the one calling out Alan.

If Alan shows up good I'm going to want to understand that meeting in a lot more detail than I do right now. If Alan shows up as a bad guy I won't mention it again (for awhile, anyways :) ) and will modify my trust lists accordingly.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321384)
Anyone have a vote count?


7 on alan i think, 3 on me...i think, not sure if barkeep voted, but either way alan is getting lynched.

LoneStarGirl 11-30-2006 08:07 PM

unvote raiders army

vote blade

LoneStarGirl 11-30-2006 08:07 PM

I really think Alant is good
And since there is only one more person on the chooping block i had to go with him to keep things tight

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1321385)
MrW, I'll drop it if you guys are confident we have a bad guy. When I was asking the questions we (the collective group on Alan) didn't sound terribly confident on our vote beyond Blade, who was the one calling out Alan.

If Alan shows up good I'm going to want to understand that meeting in a lot more detail than I do right now. If Alan shows up as a bad guy I won't mention it again (for awhile, anyways :) ) and will modify my trust lists accordingly.

Alan just said he actually submitted a bid of 6, not 7, and it was his mistake, not mine. So when he turns up good, dont blame me for trying to catch a bad guy.

Ill discuss this after the game hoops, but your really annoying me right now. For all the times you say i dont listen to reason, your making up for it with this constant pushing when multiple people have said stop.

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday (Post 1321335)
Dola, so if you are saying that you trust them, should I infer that you know something that I don't?


Yes you should infer something. :)

Basically, here is my list:

I'm fairly sure that the following aren't evil:

Barkeep
st. cronin
hoops
Blade
path
Mr. Wednesday
DC
Izulde

barkeep trusts for bulletsponge
You (Mr. Wednesday) trusts for Daddy Torgo, bulletsponge, and dubb
st. cronin trusts hoops, barkeep, blade, Schmidty, and saldana

That leaves Alan T, LSG, and Swaggs if my process of elimination is correct.

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:12 PM

So I'll ask again, did anyone hire an urchin last night? It seems improbable that NO ONE hired one... I would assume these type of services would be immensely popular.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1321393)
Yes you should infer something. :)

Basically, here is my list:

I'm fairly sure that the following aren't evil:

Barkeep
st. cronin
hoops
Blade
path
Mr. Wednesday
DC
Izulde

barkeep trusts for bulletsponge
You (Mr. Wednesday) trusts for Daddy Torgo, bulletsponge, and dubb
st. cronin trusts hoops, barkeep, blade, Schmidty, and saldana

That leaves Alan T, LSG, and Swaggs if my process of elimination is correct.

Dodgerchick too

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321395)
So I'll ask again, did anyone hire an urchin last night? It seems improbable that NO ONE hired one... I would assume these type of services would be immensely popular.


Of the people who bid on day 1, i didnt place a bid, saldana didnt place one, alan didnt place one, and i dont know who else. I think last night really might have gone with no one. Though a few people like schmidty havent said much, so maybe he did.

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl (Post 1321388)
I really think Alant is good
And since there is only one more person on the chooping block i had to go with him to keep things tight


If Alan T turns out to be who I thinks he is, then I'm fairly sure that you will be who I think you are. How's that for being vague?

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1321396)
Dodgerchick too


She's in there.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1321400)
She's in there.

Are you sure you trust her? I dont trust her, but if you are sure...

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1321398)
If Alan T turns out to be who I thinks he is, then I'm fairly sure that you will be who I think you are. How's that for being vague?


LSG and AlanT are who we thought they were!!!



Sorry, Denny Green flashback ;)

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:17 PM

Blade I still want a response:

How do you justify attempting to have me lynched with what you knew to be a lie?

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1321403)
Blade I still want a response:

How do you justify attempting to have me lynched with what you knew to be a lie?

I didnt lie about my urchin's views, at least not that time

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:19 PM

BTW, Schmidty mentioned he had financial problems and might get his internet turned off... did we get a replacement for him?

hoopsguy 11-30-2006 08:20 PM

Blade, I think this would be an excellent topic for discussion after the game is over. Because it has bugged the heck out of me today.

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:21 PM

dola,

Hope all turns out okay Schmidty; it's really, really tough being in that kind of situation... lord knows we've had our share of financial issues.

You'll be in my thoughts.

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1321401)
Are you sure you trust her? I dont trust her, but if you are sure...


I'm fairly sure since she was the first to vouch for Izulde. I believe somewhere today someone else vouched for her as well. Of course my list is entirely predicated on some things better left unsaid at this point.

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1321406)
I didnt lie about my urchin's views, at least not that time

Wait. Did you or did you not see Raiders and I there?

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:23 PM

Without a doubt, I trust hoops, st. cronin, barkeep, path, and blade.

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:24 PM

I mean we all know your urchin gave you bad info at this point since I think there's little disputing that bullet was also in the district, at the bare minimum, since we slept together. Just trying to figure out how bad your info was.

st.cronin 11-30-2006 08:24 PM

Boy am I curious to see how this lynch turns out.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1321415)
Wait. Did you or did you not see Raiders and I there?


Id perfer not to answer this right now

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1321419)
Id perfer not to answer this right now

So let's just be clear: You would prefer not to answer whether or not you lied in the process of attempting to get a good guy lynched?

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:27 PM

Well, I guess I need to vote, I don't wanna miss too much of the Ravens vs. Bengals game.

Vote AlanT

Everything he said I agreed with up until the accounting discrepancy. Alan is known for his detail and I cannot fathom him making a mistake like that. When I found out how much money I made a day, I was already thinking of scenarios on how to spend it, including hiring an urchin (I felt some comfort knowing that if I bid, my money would not be lost).

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:29 PM

dola,

It's driving me nuts that a lot of people aren't willing to share information... it really, really bugs me.

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:31 PM

Including AlanT, he knows something on someone, but is not willing to out them. It bothers me that he's willing to die with this info which is not good for the village.

st.cronin 11-30-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321423)
dola,

It's driving me nuts that a lot of people aren't willing to share information... it really, really bugs me.


Well, the information that has been shared has tended to just totally baffle me.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1321420)
So let's just be clear: You would prefer not to answer whether or not you lied in the process of attempting to get a good guy lynched?

I did not lie in attempting to get you lynched, does that make your hissy fit better?

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321424)
Including AlanT, he knows something on someone, but is not willing to out them. It bothers me that he's willing to die with this info which is not good for the village.

Well, if I were in his position right now I'd spill the beans...but then again I'm a good guy. ;) A bad guy would just fake it.

hoopsguy 11-30-2006 08:35 PM

Alan has spilled "it" - he says he learned that I was a prostitute.

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321423)
dola,

It's driving me nuts that a lot of people aren't willing to share information... it really, really bugs me.

I understand. I sit here holding back info only
1. If I don't feel like it's my secret to divulge (like I did with hoop's role as a prostitute)
or
2. The information seems like it makes more sense to try and gather more of it and paint a more complete picture.

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1321431)
Alan has spilled "it" - he says he learned that I was a prostitute.


Your not one though, are you?...i had you pegged in a similar, but not exactly the same role.

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1321426)
I did not lie in attempting to get you lynched, does that make your hissy fit better?

Yes, though I'm clearly missing something important about the information you have.

Lorena 11-30-2006 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1321431)
Alan has spilled "it" - he says he learned that I was a prostitute.


No shit, that was the big secret? I was in suspense the whole time, I thought it was something juicy.

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321436)
No shit, that was the big secret? I was in suspense the whole time, I thought it was something juicy.

I know. That's why I didn't quite get the way hoops was playing.

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1321436)
No shit, that was the big secret? I was in suspense the whole time, I thought it was something juicy.


Ohhhhhhhh...the opening is there....

go for it!

Yeah, well the real juicy part is something that the prostitute's clients don't wanna know!!!

hoopsguy 11-30-2006 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1321433)
Your not one though, are you?...i had you pegged in a similar, but not exactly the same role.


I am - I tried to keep some level of suspense so people might think I'm the Bordello Mom or some unlisted role, but I'm just another streetwalker.

Throughout the game I've tried to give as much of my info as possible without explicitly listing my role, figuring if a bad guy or two took me for a more important role they might gun for me instead of taking out one of the more meaningful roles.

Raiders Army 11-30-2006 08:41 PM

Well it worked since Lathum was gunning for you on Night 1.

st.cronin 11-30-2006 08:41 PM

Reading over the thread again, I feel quite good about this lynch. Alan is lying about more than one thing, and never did reveal anything useful.

st.cronin 11-30-2006 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1321441)
Well it worked since Lathum was gunning for you on Night 1.


Woah, how do we know that?

Blade6119 11-30-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1321440)
I am - I tried to keep some level of suspense so people might think I'm the Bordello Mom or some unlisted role, but I'm just another streetwalker.


I thought you were the bordello mom too, so you fooled me

hoopsguy 11-30-2006 08:43 PM

RA, does that mean that Lathum was not one of the people completing a kill on Night 1? Because that would imply that we are likely still facing three bad guys ...

st.cronin 11-30-2006 08:43 PM

Out for the night.

Good luck, London.

Barkeep49 11-30-2006 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1321442)
Reading over the thread again, I feel quite good about this lynch. Alan is lying about more than one thing, and never did reveal anything useful.

And the whole rounders thing is just plain strange. Could just be CR's idea of a joke, which is what I think it is, as I'm at a loss to understand how it relates to the game in any fashion.


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