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KWhit 02-23-2006 02:48 PM

Yeah. He's stirring things up.

:D

miked 02-23-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Speaking of the OOTP boards, has anyone checked over there to see what they're saying about MaxiFootball.


The same...mostly negative.

Love the Dean Houston post, though maybe it really is jbmagic pretending to be HA... :D

Toddzilla 02-23-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Speaking of the OOTP boards, has anyone checked over there to see what they're saying about MaxiFootball.

Oh, yeah. It's a pretty fun read, too. Kinda like this thread with maybe 33% of the cynicism (and 0% of the YTMNDs).

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=109599

Ben E Lou 02-23-2006 02:52 PM

Their thread isn't nearly as long, but contains a few nuggets. Plus, extra points for the #1 MF fanboy showing up there:

02-16-2006, 01:04 AM #61
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"Next Week" is an official release date. Eric Rutkins thinks that the game is ready on Monday. So "Monday" is the target.



This will be part of Updates. You can improve every game so MF is never like all other games finished.



Thinks. Target. These are not words that indicate a certainty. I'm still not holding my breath. And part of updates? No, you mean, part of patching because the programmer goofed off for a year without adding anything of value to the game. Honestly it sounds to me like he's half-assing it and relying on the third party developers to do most of the dirty work for him.


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Here i am not really surprised when you look at all the bashing , prejudicies and assumptions based on rumors and false "facts".

When you read many posts you have to think that all these users have invested money in this project and want now a return. Many of these suggegstions did not realize that there is a difference between what he can do and what is (at the moment) impossible. But the simple fact is DW is the developer and decides how this game will look. The user has right to achieve correct informations so he can decide if he wants this game but he can claim nothing more. Even when DW sas now MF will never released you can claim nothing. On the other said DW can not claim that you like his game. It is only offer.


I'm sorry, but a guy who publically whines about quitting a project he's been working on for four or five YEARS, whatever the exact amount is, a few WEEKS before the alleged release date strikes me as someone who doesn't have the commitment or the stomach for the business.

Criticism is a natural part of any business world and if he's so thin-skinned he can't recognize that he deserves a lot of flak for his repeated delays, pathetic add-on features after having an entire year to add a career mode (the reason the last delay was given for), then he has absolutely no business being an independent developer and should contribute what talents he might have to a larger corporation, where he has a much smaller audience to deal with.

But oh wait, that'd mean he'd have to meet deadlines in a timely fashion, wouldn't he?

This kid's got a lot of growing up to do and I strongly believe he's going to face an even more powerful firestorm of criticism when the game comes out than what he's faced now. When you've taken this long to work on a project and the game feels incomplete, the sim engine is busted, or there's major, major bugs, etc... whatever the problems are, you're going to get a hell of a lot more heat for it.

Maybe he'll prove me wrong and the product will actually turn out decent. Maybe he'll stop being so defensive and condemning of those who offer critiques of his game.

But right now, from where I stand, there's a better chance of my hooking up a threesome with Amy Lee and Kirsten Dunst than either of those things happening.
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02-17-2006, 10:36 PM #62
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I think he underestimated things a tad. This is from his home page.

"Expect to see Maximum-Football available in 2002."
David Winters
April 2001



Well, here's the new slogan then:

"Maximum Football: hey, it's only five years late!"
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02-18-2006, 11:41 AM #68
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What about Football Mogul? Is it alright? Can you actually play games like FOF, or is it just the financial/GM role you fill.

In any case, I hope that FOF comes out with a new version soon. Something more customizable. I thought the game engine was very good, or at least good enough for Arlie(?) to consider other improvements.

BTW, is Skydog Arlie? I haven't seen him post in a while.
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Originally Posted by GForce
Is that from the guy's wife?

Oh brother.

GH



Yes. Oh sorry, no, its from "Media Relations" LOL

I love the condescending tone in it, looking down on anyone who dares to criticize all these endless delays.

You would think they were releasing shareware or something.
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I'm sure that will put out all those public relations fires! Good job!
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Yesterday, 08:43 PM #85
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Next post is from his mom.


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Next post is from his mom.

Are you sure you don't you mean the "Laundry Relations Liason"?
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Ben E Lou 02-23-2006 02:54 PM

Dean Houston is channelling jbmagic, it would appear. :eek:

albionmoonlight 02-23-2006 02:57 PM

This is like watching a car wreck. But one where, every so often, someone walks over and punches the driver in the face as he struggles to free himself from the wreckage.

KWhit 02-23-2006 02:58 PM

So who is JeeberISaDork?

I gotta say I like the name!

KWhit 02-23-2006 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
This is like watching a car wreck. But one where, every so often, someone walks over and punches the driver in the face as he struggles to free himself from the wreckage.


Great analogy. I'm drawing stares from my coworkers as I try to withhold the giggles.

rkmsuf 02-23-2006 02:59 PM

Quick somebody register deanhoustonhasasmallwiener.

MikeVic 02-23-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
This is like watching a car wreck. But one where, every so often, someone walks over and punches the driver in the face as he struggles to free himself from the wreckage.


I'm laughing at this in an empty room. Damn you.

JeeberD 02-23-2006 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Dean Houston is channelling jbmagic, it would appear. :eek:


Easily the greatest thing that HA has ever done... :D

KWhit 02-23-2006 03:04 PM

I'm cracking up at Dean over there. Whoever that is is in rare form.

rkmsuf 02-23-2006 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD
Easily the greatest thing that HA has ever done... :D


agreed. brilliant!

MikeVic 02-23-2006 03:12 PM

Wow, Dean Houston is funny.

cthomer5000 02-23-2006 03:16 PM

I'm enjoying dean as well. It's an impressive jbmagic impersonation.

JeeberD 02-23-2006 03:18 PM

Hmmm...looks like the Breeze over there isn't our Breeze after all.

sovereignstar 02-23-2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD
Hmmm...looks like the Breeze over there isn't our Breeze after all.


Gee.. ya think? Dork. :)

rkmsuf 02-23-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD
Hmmm...looks like the Breeze over there isn't our Breeze after all.


A Breeze divided against itself cannot exist.

Dutch 02-23-2006 03:20 PM

We don't have a guy named FroznMonkey as well do we?

Coffee Warlord 02-23-2006 03:26 PM

Heh, finally went over. I think we need an Erik Flamebeard to go alongside Dean.

Toddzilla 02-23-2006 03:29 PM

At OOTP:
Quote:

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 7 (1 members and 6 guests)
JeeberD
I seeeeeee yoooooooou.
Go ahead. Post. You know you wanna.....

JeeberD 02-23-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla
At OOTP:

I seeeeeee yoooooooou.
Go ahead. Post. You know you wanna.....



OOTP frightens me! :eek:

Toddzilla 02-23-2006 03:36 PM

I think Dean is going for the Wigfecta over at Matrix.

Go Dean Go!

Bee 02-23-2006 03:41 PM

ROFL...more UIC from the Maximus Board.

Quote:

Two words: replay value.

A licensed game becomes outdated within a year because names change. Hence the reason why companies make whole new games every year.

MF will be as good of a game 5 years from now as it is today. Try saying that about Madden 2001 now.


Plus there's the customizability of MF, different rules available, etc.

kcchief19 02-23-2006 03:41 PM

Is that the real FranklinNoble or an impersonator? It seems like him, since it's a parrot post and offers nothing of value. If so, that message forum is starting to turn into The FOFC Boneyard. We just need mrs skippy to wander in with a rant and Happy29 to meltdown and that board will be an FOFC clone, just not built around an actual piece of software.

Ben E Lou 02-23-2006 03:44 PM

Dean got a thread closed.

Bee 02-23-2006 03:47 PM

Dean Houston is jbmagic on steroids. :D

JeeberD 02-23-2006 03:48 PM

I almost feel sorry for Erik, HA's playing him like a yoyo...

cartman 02-23-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Dean got a thread closed.


Oh, that is classic.

bbor 02-23-2006 03:50 PM

UIC?


Forgive my ignorance.

Franklinnoble 02-23-2006 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Dean got a thread closed.

Actually, I think I was the one who got that thread closed.

Bee 02-23-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor
UIC?


Forgive my ignorance.


unintentional comedy

bbor 02-23-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee
unintentional comedy


Danke

Ben E Lou 02-23-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
Actually, I think I was the one who got that thread closed.

Well, a combination. Without the jb-style whining, that thread is probably still open.

I can't believe he has 21 posts in this short a time, with the mod there, and he hasn't been banned, suspended, or even chastised.

albionmoonlight 02-23-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by questions on the Matrix boards
Hey David,

Just curious if Maximum football can place these two new rules that the CFL agreed for the 2006 season.

The first rule under review would allow the head coach to call team time outs.

The second proposed rule is that neither team can use hands open or closed to provide leverage against the face mask of an opponent.

The league also clarified the no yards rule on punts - that the receiving team player is protected by a five-yard zone from where the ball first hits ground.

Sladebuck


Do you ever get the feeling that some people are expecting a lot deeper game than the one being produced?

Bee 02-23-2006 04:00 PM

There's more people on their board now than were there the night it was supposed to be released. I guess Dean Houston is more popular than MF. :D

Bee 02-23-2006 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
Do you ever get the feeling that some people are expecting a lot deeper game than the one being produced?


Well the 5 yard zone rule could conflict with the teleport ability, so I could see that delaying the release if it's added.

JPhillips 02-23-2006 04:04 PM

I almost feel bad for the guys offering to help Dean Houston understand the CFL.

cartman 02-23-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by some poor soul at MaxFB Board
Hi Dean,

Yes ice hockey is big in Canada and the National Hockey League (NHL) has teams in Canada and US. As for the Canadian Football League has been around long before I was born. But there are nine teams but the Canadian League has made a come back in the last few years as fan base is growing and another expantion team is on the way. Most likely to happen in 2009 season.

To answer your question about drafts. The CFL can draft players through Canadian Universities or American Universities as well. Most players in the NFL who did not make the cut, have the option of playing the CFL for playing time and get some football experience.

A player like Casey Printers who was the quaterback for the British Columbia Lions signed with the Kansas City Chiefs for three-years. Players like Casey get recognized quickly because he played in the CFL and that helped him get into the NFL.

Any more questions drop a line....

Sladebuck


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Klinglerware 02-23-2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips
I almost feel bad for the guys offering to help Dean Houston understand the CFL.


But it does make for comedic gold!

Anthony 02-23-2006 04:06 PM

i swear, it's addictive.

and for the record, jbmagic is a total farce. you can so easily keep up that act forever.

Bee 02-23-2006 04:11 PM

I'm really hoping to see CFL FAN 7 come back to help answer some of Dean Houston's questions. :D

sovereignstar 02-23-2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
I can't believe he has 21 posts in this short a time, with the mod there, and he hasn't been banned, suspended, or even chastised.


Try looking up the word 'tolerance' in a dictionary.

Anthony 02-23-2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Well, a combination. Without the jb-style whining, that thread is probably still open.

I can't believe he has 21 posts in this short a time, with the mod there, and he hasn't been banned, suspended, or even chastised.


could you ban this?


Ben E Lou 02-23-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
Try looking up the word 'tolerance' in a dictionary.

Jon's sig says something about it being the virtue of the man without convictions. Works for me. ;)

sovereignstar 02-23-2006 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog
Jon's sig says something about it being the virtue of the man without convictions. Works for me. ;)


Cool. Are you all for murdering 12-year old file-sharers as well?

Anthony 02-23-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
Cool. Are you all for murdering 12-year old file-sharers as well?


other than being able to find useless old posts rather quickly you really haven't contributed to FOFC much, so you're a good candidate for a banning. that ice underneath you, is it me or is it slowly cracking?

i'd tread carefully or you'll be feeding Suicane bon-bons in your own private clubhouse in no time.

SFL Cat 02-23-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic
could you ban this?



Is that a real pic of ... and I quote ....
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic
actually, i'm the guy who boinked your GF like she was a roast beef hero with low-fat mayo


:cool:

Ben E Lou 02-23-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
Cool. Are you all for murdering 12-year old file-sharers as well?

I grow weary of your trolling. See you in two weeks.

sovereignstar 02-23-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic
other than being able to find useless old posts rather quickly you really haven't contributed to FOFC much, so you're a good candidate for a banning. that ice underneath you, is it me or is it slowly cracking?

i'd tread carefully or you'll be feeding Suicane bon-bons in your own private clubhouse in no time.


Later, loser.


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