This is exactly me. Wasn't familiar with the source material for the Leftovers or for this show and loved the crazyness of both of them. Probably hardcore fans had nitpicks with both but I was oblivious. I'm the opposite with Dark Tower. Couldnt understand how they made it into a 2 hour movie and was surely be disappointed with a series.

Thank you for this! I had been looking for this info and failed. Upon looking now, it looks like they give a $5.99 credit for Hulu, and a $4.99 credit for ESPN+. So I end up with Disney for $2.01/month. Which is fair I suppose. That's what I had hoped for.


{edit: Somehow the credit isn't quite that much together. After tax, it comes out to $3 a month. Certainly doable for some SW.}

Really enjoyed episode 1 of The Mandalorian and I certainly became even more engaged with how the episode wrapped up. Definitely looking forward to next week.

I feel like there's some Scrappy Doo potential there, but the rest of the episode gave me hope that things won't be too corny.

My only issue with the Mandalorian was finding out after watching the first episode that I couldn't watch the next one until Friday.

I don't know if it is a smart movie by Disney to release new episodes weekly, but we'll see.

FYI, the Mandalorian episode that would be released on the Friday the week if the next SW movie is being released on Wednesday instead. I guess they want to give all of the attention to the movie that week.

I signed up for Hulu + Live w/out ads and with the DVR as my PS Vue replacement yesterday, then grabbed the bundle deal with ESPN+ and Disney+. I'm impressed with what Disney+ has to offer, and enjoyed the first episode of the Mandalorian. My wife, who isn't into Star Wars except for the new trilogy, said it was "okay", which is a win.

On Hulu, I like how you can specify that you want to record specific teams in specific sports. I wish Vue had that feature so I didn't have to wade through all the college football games to find the IU game.

Started watching S4 and finished ep1 of Man in the High Castle. Still confusing as heck but I feel obligated to finish the series and do want to know how it ends.

Finished it today. I didn't like the ending because it felt very rushed to me but overall, it was okay.

I do want to rewatch all of it again now that I understand whats going on.

Finally saw it. Holy shit, what a monster, indeed. I can't believe the record label didn't drop him because he made them money. What in the living fuck?! :mad: :mad:

Enjoying the Mandalorian also. Not really a Star Wars nut, but (especially the most recent episode) felt like a high budget mix of a peak Star Gate SG1 episode with Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven.

Just binged The Confession Killer, Netflix's documentary series on Henry Lee Lucas. Thumps Up.

Not only that, countless artists continued to work with him despite knowing, likely better than most, what he was doing. Most notably Lady Gaga. And of course, milions of fans continue to defend him today, but I guess that's the least surprising thing of all.

Up to episode four, and it I love it as well. I only dislike that all the action scenes are so dark. I know it just probably saves on the effects budget if everything is not lit up, but I am old and can't see crap.

Watchmen continues to be amazing. Granted, things could unravel during the season finale next week, but, so far, this has been one of my favorite seasons of TV ever. Beautifully shot, acted, and wonderfully written.

Agreed. And the show just keeps getting better. I thought they couldn't top the Nostalgia episode, but the Dr. Manhattan one was better. Really looking forward to the season finale.

Witcher time

Got through episode 2. Its different (just like the game) and its growing on me.

It gets better as the season goes. I thought episode 2 was the weakest and I'm through 4.

Finished Witcher. Didn't realize it was only 8 episodes.

For one, it makes me want to pick up Witcher 3 again.

For two, the pacing kind of feels off to me. I can't put my finger on it, but it feels just weird to me. I do like Cavill's portrayal of Geralt, for the most part (his interactions with Yenn just didn't feel right).

And Triss is supposed to be a hot redhead, god dammit. :)

That's how the new season of Peaky Blinders ends? Really?

I’m assuming you mean the one that came out a couple months ago? We kind of felt the same. It was obvious they were setting up for the next season. I just hope it doesn’t take as long to drop.

Yeah, I'm a little behind. For me it was easily the weakest season to date.

Ditto on the little behind thing.

I figure we'll catch up on it while the kid is home for the holiday break. It's more his show than mine, so I just watch whenever he does.

Finished Witcher Ep 6. Yeah, its entertaining enough to continue watching. Hope next season has been agreed to.

On another note - lots of new Christmas movies on streaming. Any of them strike you as the next Elf?

I believe that's the case. The hype email I got a few days ago mentioned something about S2 was already approved.

I'm always an easy sell on The Expanse, but 7 episodes into its first season on Amazon (4th overall), I'm really digging it. It doesn't feel any different than when it was on Syfy.

It remains one of the best shows I have seen in recent years.

Been loving this season, too! It’s been great so far. I think I’m 6 or 7 am episodes in, as well.

I knew of the Expanse but never watched until the last few days. Saw a preview for the 4th season before an episode of Mrs. Maisel. I'm watching the last episode of the first season right now. Surprised I hadn't watched it before. It has been pretty good.

Not the next Elf, but my recent 'adult' Christmas tradition is to watch The Night Before on (or right around) Christmas Eve. Fun little Seth Rogen romp centered around Christmas, I think I've watched it 3 straight years now.


The other one that I actually liked more was Office Christmas Party, but that seems to have disappeared from all the services I have access to this year. That was a real bummer.


Nothing as family-oriented as Elf that I've seen though.

Has anyone got Apple + ? We kinda want to watch the morning show.

Did you guys see that Ralphie from Christmas Story was in Elf?

I find Jon Favreau's work in both Elf (as director) and The Mandelorian (as producer/creator/writer) to be fascinating. Mostly because his acting work is so well known. He's not thought of in that vein first and foremost.

I always found him to be a clown (on Seinfeld).

I watched the final episode of The Mandalorian this morning. It was great. I’ll miss the show and look forward to Season 2!

Witcher was OK. Little underwhelming considering the budget they had. Story felt rushed and some of those special effects were comically bad.

Yeah, it was solid and a good setup for Season 2, which comes in the fall.

I've really enjoyed the first season, can't wait for more!

I don't understand though why a newer smart TV can't just get all the streaming services. My mom has a Vizio and can't just download the Disney+ app, she has to use Airplay. We have an LG tv and can't download the Philo streaming service. So now we have a firestick and roku just to get what we want.

I would hope at some point you could just download whatever streaming service you want to your TV. I love streaming TV but it's becoming a serious PITA.

Do any of the smart tvs allow you to download new apps? I have never used the apps portion on my tv. We've had Roku since we cut the cord.

I have Samsungs & TCL and both allow you to download new apps. However, my Samsung (older) for some strange reason does not let me download Sling. i bought a Roku during BF which took care of that.

Finished season 4 of The Man in the High Castle last night. I'm disappointed the show is over. It was a pretty decent show. I wish the BCR would have been a part of the show during the earlier seasons.

I thought season 4 was absolutely awful.

I thought it was pretty decent also. I was more interested in the West than the East storyline and wish they did more there. Also did not like the ending and wish there was one more episode on "aftermath".

My LG lets me too but I can't download Philo which is what my wife watches Walking Dead or whatever it's called on AMC.


She should be able to on the Amazon Firestick that's coming today. It's just odd that everything isn't available via app store on all TV's by now.


Streaming TV is a major PITA at times. :mad:

The wife and I enjoyed The Morning Show. Very solid. I can't say anything else on Apple + is as good.

Really enjoying For All Mankind on Apple +

Watching The Walking Dead on Netflix. Had a hard time with it after the 1st scene when the sheriff killed the blond girl as I have 2 blond girls. But now its a pretty good show. Some slow stuff and most of the characters I do not like. Only a couple and they are the only 2 honest characters in the show with no BS.

Overall a good show.

I still think that's probably THE single greatest scene in the history of television.

It did more to establish a universe than anything I've ever seen.

Hard to argue with that, especially with the way it set a tone. Closest similar scene I can think of is the 3rd episode of Breaking bad with Krazy-8 and the broken shard of plate.

Just finished the first season of The Witcher on Netflix. I really enjoyed it. Definitely looking forward to the second season.

Finished watching Messiah on Netflix. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Season 2 is not yet confirmed but they better make it because I still have a bunch of questions. The guy is either the real or fake messiah and that hasn't been established yet. Some interesting theories out there is you google for them.

The show does bring up that interesting question. If Jesus/Prophet/Messiah was to come on the earth today, would we recognize him and accept him?

Im watching it now. On episode 9. Really good show. I like how it shows the everyday peoples faults and how easy it is to succumb to temptation.

It has some slow parts, but overall, a thumbs up.

Forgot that was out. Really looking forward to it.

Is the show somewhat family friendly? Was going to recommend to my Mom but would feel weird if half the show is nude orgies.

There is some "thrusting" sex between the FBI/Shin Bet agents and there is some frontal nudity. No orgies though.

Just finished "The Witcher." I enjoyed, though I stayed confused through most of the season. The fact that the stories where in different timelines and that didn't become clear to later really annoyed me. Some people love that kind of story-telling, but generally I find it is a way to hide a weak story. I think the show would have been better without it.

I just watched the first episode and was curious about some things. So I looked up the episode recap to see if it could clewr anything up. It was ONLY there in the recap that it suggested the two primary stories were at different time periods.

So, through sheer luck, I will seemingly avoid your frustration. I would have been similarly nonplussed.

I did like the first episode. Looking forward to the rest.

Yeah I don't mind telling stories like this but they did a poor job of laying it out.

We do get this song though.

I really loved "The Witcher." I thought it was fantastic and can't wait for the second season. I was a little confused about the timeline initially, but slowly started to pick things up as the season went along. At first, I was wondering if some scenes were dream sequences or involved spirits or something, but eventually I picked up on the fact and was able to roll with it.

I thought it was kind of cool in some respects. For example, I really enjoyed Queen Calanthe and her husband in the first episode and was surprised how the first episode ended. It was cool to be able to get more of them and their story as the season went on, which made the first episode all the more interesting and impactful in retropsect.

I'm enjoying The Witcher myself. I just finished Episode 3, which clearly lays out that there are two separate timelines. I like that the show doesn't take itself too seriously. And the production values are just simply top notch.

I finished The Witcher. Consider me sold. I enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next season.

We got the free Disney trial and watching the Mandalorian. I am enjoying it and baby "yoda" is cute. I'm glad it expanding the universe into different areas.

All in all, I prefer The Witcher (because its not as familiar as the Mandalorian SW universe) but both are on my keep on watching list.

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Dracula was a good show. It was dark but at times fun. I absolutely fell in love with Van Helsing.

Well Netflix sure did well in the Oscar noms. The Irishman got 10 nominations, Marriage Story got 6. Both were nominated for Best Picture. Klaus was nominated for Best Animated Feature.

I've seen Marriage Story and Klaus and they were both deserving. I guess I will at some point watch the Irishman, but it just seems sooo long.

We have started that twice and fallen asleep both times, I need to watch it on a Sunday afternoon.

I just look at it as a really good miniseries. I would have no problem binge watching like 6 episodes of Black Mirror or Homeland so I just watched like an hour a night and finished it in 3 nights. It's definitely worth watching. Might be a bit much in the movie theater but well worth it just streaming at home.

I enjoyed it. It was a little spooky how everyone looked young again.

I think the length takes a lot away from the movie. I'm rooting against it.

As I said in the movie thread, I'm all for a good long movie, but you gotta give me 3 hours worth watching.

Yeah, I would argue that TV series and movies are different animals, and if you are marketing a 3+ hour story as a movie, I'll try to watch it all at once because that's the medium you are presenting it as.

Generally a 3 hour miniseries will structure things so that each part of the miniseries functions as an episode itself. Splitting a 3 hour movie in thirds or in half tends to not work as well.

Yeah but this one is like Goodfellas and Casino where there are obvious breaks in time so if you really wanted to you could cut it into miniseries by decade. I get what you are saying about movie vs series I was just saying if the length is the only thing stopping you from watching it than I would because it was very entertaining. If there are other reasons than I get it, I just had no problem watching an hour or so and calling it a night to pick up at a later time.

I'm 16 years late, but finally got around to watching Deadwood. Watched Seasons 1 and 2 over the Christmas break and looking forward to starting the 3rd season on the weekend.

Boy are you going to be disappointed.

Kidding. Mostly.

How was the movie? Did it provide a nice conclusion?

I found that The Irishman moved along at a nice pace and didn't seem to drag at all. It definitely didn't feel like three-and-a-half hours. Really, it's not much longer than Godfather: Part II (329 minutes vs 322 minutes).

It's just a great story. The biggest thing for me with the de-aging was their movements looked strange. Sure, the guy looks 40 years old but he's moving around like an 80-year-old type deal.

Godfather: Part II is 10 times the movie the Irishman is. :D

Good. No it did not.

I honestly did not notice but now that you mention it ...

I thought the Irishman was solid but all of the ground has been covered before. Literally just watch Goodfellas again. Everything this movie did, Goodfellas did better. Also don’t quite understand why they de-aged everyone and then jumped ahead to “oh hai I’m Anna Paquin”. She’s like 35 years old or something. Like this movie was Forrest Goodfellump or something.

So I’d still give it like 7/10 or something and def think it’s worth watching. If only so that Netflix makes more things like this.

I agree with this. I found it to be... okay... but there were just too many times that I thought "oh this is the goodfellas playbook" instead of enjoying or appreciating what was happening in this film. Its a Scorsese movie with DeNiro and Pesci so that's not a big surprise, but this one just didn't really land for me.

Like there’s a pretty solid chance I will watch Goodfellas at least 20 more times before I die. But I can guarantee I’ll never watch the Irishman again.

Truth.

Pesci was absolutely great. I hope he wins an Oscar

Watching this Aaron Hernandez documentary. Holy crap.

I was watching a bit of that too, what a story (and yet I apparently managed to forget most of it in the time since then).

I was watching the Witcher recently, not particularly paying too much attention to the episode order, and they FINALLY reached a point of confluence for the two main characters and I was like "Alright, now this story might actually go som-"SEASON OVER

I finished The Witcher last night and I thought it was a solid start. I wish they had been more upfront with the different timelines thing as it confused the hell out of my wife. The challenge the writers faced in telling Yennifer's origin story and tying her to Geralt is the different time periods. When the 3rd Witcher game begins, IIRC, Yennifer is roughly 100 years old and Geralt is in his 60s.

I read some interviews with the showrunner and I'm optimistic about where it's headed. She acknowledged the issues with season 1 and explained that the primary goal of season 1 was to get the backstory in and introduce the characters before diving too deep into the plot. With the amount of detail in the Witcher universe I think that approach makes sense.

Jumping into this blind has be daunting though. The first couple of episodes where spent with me pausing every few minutes to explain little things they don't have the time to stop and explain or they wait to explain later on. Why does a Witcher carry 2 swords? Why are his eyes black and you can see the veins in his face sometimes? What's the deal with Nilfgaard? What's the law of surprise? What's the deal with Ciri's magic?

Overall what stood out to me was the combat scenes with Geralt are fantastically done and they did a solid job of capturing the tone of the world.

Having read people's comments and confusion about the Witcher TV series, I started watching it over the last couple of days (1st 3 episodes).


Now I understand what the problem is -- if you know nothing about the Witcher universe going in or your only exposure has been the PC games, you have every reason to be confused.


The Netflix series is based on the original Sapkowski books. The 1st 2-3 books contain short stories, and they bounce all over the place as far as the Geralt timeline is concerned. The rest of the books form a continous series in the timeline (although there are some flashbacks and flashforwards that can cause issues with comprehension, especially when the focus changes from one main character to another).


The timeline of the 3 Witcher PC games takes place after the book series concludes.


I liked how they did the Striga in Episode 3. That was a very important story in the early books. The Striga/Princess also appears in the 1st and 2nd PC games.

Yes! That confused the hell outta me, too.

I really liked the different timelines in Witcher. Reminded me of S1 of Westworld a little bit. It was cool seeing the hints dropped of which timeline the story was in.

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Yeah, I agree. I really enjoyed it, although the backstory of the games and knowing enough about the books really helps.

As for the multiple timeline bit, I don't remember it being really relevant until around midseason, by which point surely when you've seen a young Calanthe vs the one you saw in the first episode, and you can figure out what is going on?

This, especially re: the tone, was pretty much the takeaway with me and the kid here in the batcave tonight as we squeezed in ep. 1 before he heads back to school. It looks and feels and even sounds right.

I'm not sure about the way they chose to approach the telling of S1, a more straightforward timeline would certainly be less of a challenge for viewers (especially those coming from zero knowledge) but there's enough here to give it a chance and see how that works out.

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I understand the timelines were confusing. I was confused a few times and thought certain scenes with characters who were already dead or much older when we saw them first were just dreams or had ghosts in them, but I eventually caught on.

To me, it really captured how I felt playing Witcher 2 & 3. I had a blast playing them, loved the world and everything, but only understood about 75% or so of what was ever happening at any moment.

Not sure if this has already been discussed on the thread, but Cheer is an excellent docuseries on the competitive cheerleading squad from Navarro JC in Texas. Truly well done.

It's on my watchlist.

Also, Center Stage recently hit Netflix. One of my favorite movies (I think I mentioned it in the thread about critically panned films that we love). Quite a few of my friends are also fans. I had a mild crush on Amanda Schull for a considerable while because of this one.

So we finished Deadwood season 3 and the movie last night.

It's weird, going straight from the finale of Season 3 to the movie I imagine negated a lot of the disappointment. I think the movie did a good job of providing some closure to season 3, without spending much time on exactly what had gone on in the 10 years between the two, and leaving open the possibility of another film. The first 10/15 mins I was worried the whole thing was going to be one big long fan service event, but once the intro was done it was just like a 2 hour episode of Deadwood. It was real bittersweet, and it's a damn shame that a couple of the actors died before the movie came about - Powers Booth the big one, but Richardson (Ralph Richeson) also somehow became one of my favourites. Also a shame that a couple of guys weren't in the film (Titus Welliver especially).

All in all, among the best TV series I've seen. If I'd watched the show when it was released, I'd have been furious for the last 15 years. :D

Probably be even more furious when you realize one of the reasons Deadwood ended is because the creator wanted to do John From Cincinnati.

Can't say I'd heard of it, but reading the one-line summary makes that show sound like just about the least interesting concept for a show I can think of.

I really enjoyed the Witcher and echo this as well. It kept me on my toes and added a level of anticipation.

I just saw that Ottoman was added. This also looks right down my alley - has anyone seen it yet?

Finished watching Altered Carbon s1. Great series, fantastical concepts, but somewhat rushed in the last episode to conclude the season. Looking forward to s2.