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1stAnd10 03-01-2006 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonegavel

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LMAO!

Bonegavel 03-01-2006 04:14 PM

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Anthony 03-01-2006 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
I'm picking again in honor of RK Smurf (which is how your name sounds in my head)

same here.

Anthony 03-01-2006 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigercat
When me and one of my friends would watch over my cousins or other little kids with those books, we used to play find the pervert. In every where's waldo there is a guy that looks like hes 5 seconds from doing something or suggesting something that is sexually deviant. In the above picture I would suggest the guy in the grey blazer and brown slacks.

the skinny guy sitting on the far left of the bench looks like he's farting on the guy with the blue suit.

dawgfan 03-01-2006 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ANut
A friend of mine told me about this thread and I got hooked. When I started reading on page 1, I was a pimply, antisocial virgin. By page 10 my acne was completely cleared. When I reached the limerick-off, I had become even more antisocial, but by the time we got to cartoons and the antmeister song, I was surrounded by the glow that is this thread, and I actually managed to pay a hooker 20 bucks for a bj last night. This morning when I woke up, I discovered that my friend's brother who was in a coma for 73 days after a serious car wreck was awake and talking. This thread has even caused me to register here so that I could post.

In short: this thread has the power to create life. This thread is better than GOD!

PS: if that's not hubris I don't know what is.

Edited to add: oh yeah, also I would be interested in a cutting-edge curling sim. Someone please get on this right away. thx
I'd like to nominate this for "Best First Post Ever!"

dawgfan 03-01-2006 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Winter
Matrix Elite Guard




Posts: 581
Joined: 11/23/2004
From: Vancouver, BC
Status: offline I've touched on this a few times in the past weeks.

Due mostly to the lack of animations, "madden like" jukes, spins, and other special moves are not included in the game. I have a side step animation and that's pretty much it. If you're playing in arcade mode and your controller has triggers, you can use those to side step left and right.

People should not be expecting Madden style arcade play. I have always said that arcade mode in Maximum-Football resembles a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000.
OK, now he had to go and make things personal.

Slimmed-down version of NFL Fever 2000? Try scraped to the mother-fucking bone you hack! Fever 2000 wasn't the greatest football game ever, but don't even think of putting Maximum Football in the same sentence with it.

Grrrrr.... :mad:

SFL Cat 03-01-2006 04:34 PM
Can we customize the side-step? :confused:

Anthony 03-01-2006 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgfan
OK, now he had to go and make things personal.

Slimmed-down version of NFL Fever 2000? Try scraped to the mother-fucking bone you hack! Fever 2000 wasn't the greatest football game ever, but don't even think of putting Maximum Football in the same sentence with it.

Grrrrr.... :mad:

he even talked smack about your mother.

ohhhhhhhh snap...he dissed yo' momma. you gonna take that?

Airhog 03-01-2006 04:40 PM

st.cronin 03-01-2006 04:42 PM
Ok, so I spent some time looking through dictionaries this afternoon. I find "insolence to the gods" or something similiar ONLY in English dictionaries, and the references are all 20th century.

There is nothing remotely comparable in Greek dictionaries (although I didn't consult MODERN Greek dictionaries.)

Here is a passage from Sophocles' Ajax:

Quote:
Athena: Loook, then, at such things, and never yourself utter an arrogant word against the gods, nor assume conceit because you outweigh another in strength or in profusion of great wealth. Know that a single day brings down or raises up again all mortal things,, and the gods love those who think sensibly and detest offenders!

That's translated from a Greek passage that does not use the word hubris. If it shared that meaning alluded to before with the English language, this is a passage where you would expect to see it.

Dutch 03-01-2006 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonegavel

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Let's see, Matrix Games is giving up release dates?

DaddyTorgo 03-01-2006 04:46 PM
whoa whoa. what was the hornsmaniac post that Erik edited over on the M-F forum??

cartman 03-01-2006 04:53 PM
Here's a video of one of the beta testers for Max Football trying to relax after a hard day of testing... :D

hxxp://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=Vtq0JI_oBt0&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//static11.youtube.com/vi/Vtq0JI_oBt0/2.jpg

NSFW if you speak German, and it is subtitled

albionmoonlight 03-01-2006 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st.cronin
Ok, so I spent some time looking through dictionaries this afternoon. I find "insolence to the gods" or something similiar ONLY in English dictionaries, and the references are all 20th century.

There is nothing remotely comparable in Greek dictionaries (although I didn't consult MODERN Greek dictionaries.)

Here is a passage from Sophocles' Ajax:



That's translated from a Greek passage that does not use the word hubris. If it shared that meaning alluded to before with the English language, this is a passage where you would expect to see it.

I appear, then, to have been mis-informed. Thanks for doing the research.

st.cronin 03-01-2006 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
I appear, then, to have been mis-informed. Thanks for doing the research.

It was, in fact, my pleasure. I imagine that might make me the biggest dork here.

SunDevil 03-01-2006 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st.cronin
It was, in fact, my pleasure. I imagine that might make me the biggest dork here.

Looks around.... you sir have stiff competition. :)

yabanci 03-01-2006 06:04 PM
Daivd Winter's life story:

Surtt 03-01-2006 06:14 PM

Cap Ologist 03-01-2006 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
whoa whoa. what was the hornsmaniac post that Erik edited over on the M-F forum??


http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...postcount=2048

DaddyTorgo 03-01-2006 06:32 PM
thanks Cap.

well that's a let-down. not that funny. i would have expected more.

SirFozzie 03-01-2006 06:43 PM
Those who are late to release their games DO NOT get Fruit Cup!

kcchief19 03-01-2006 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st.cronin
Ok, so I spent some time looking through dictionaries this afternoon. I find "insolence to the gods" or something similiar ONLY in English dictionaries, and the references are all 20th century.

There is nothing remotely comparable in Greek dictionaries (although I didn't consult MODERN Greek dictionaries.)

Here is a passage from Sophocles' Ajax:



That's translated from a Greek passage that does not use the word hubris. If it shared that meaning alluded to before with the English language, this is a passage where you would expect to see it.
I'm not sure what to say, other than I'm not sure we're on the same page. I cannot find a definitive source that says, "Yes, Hubris was a word in ancient Greek," but I find numerous references to the greek word Υβρις, which is Greek for hubris apparently.

I find it difficult to believe that the word is not a Greek word considering there was a Greek goddess called Hubris/Hybris, who was according to multiple sources the embodiment of insolence and lack of restraint.

Given the history of etymology in English dictionaries, I find it extremely difficult to belive that they are all wrong when they say that the word hubris does not have Greek roots and that it is merely a 20th centruy misconception that the word hubris as a Greek word is a myth.

But it would certainly be hubris for me to suggest that with any absolute certainty.

SlapBone 03-01-2006 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcchief19
I'm not sure what to say, other than I'm not sure we're on the same page. I cannot find a definitive source that says, "Yes, Hubris was a word in ancient Greek," but I find numerous references to the greek word Υβρις, which is Greek for hubris apparently.

I find it difficult to believe that the word is not a Greek word considering there was a Greek goddess called Hubris/Hybris, who was according to multiple sources the embodiment of insolence and lack of restraint.

Given the history of etymology in English dictionaries, I find it extremely difficult to belive that they are all wrong when they say that the word hubris does not have Greek roots and that it is merely a 20th centruy misconception that the word hubris as a Greek word is a myth.

But it would certainly be hubris for me to suggest that with any absolute certainty.

This thread has everything.

st.cronin 03-01-2006 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcchief19
I'm not sure what to say, other than I'm not sure we're on the same page. I cannot find a definitive source that says, "Yes, Hubris was a word in ancient Greek," but I find numerous references to the greek word Υβρις, which is Greek for hubris apparently.

I find it difficult to believe that the word is not a Greek word considering there was a Greek goddess called Hubris/Hybris, who was according to multiple sources the embodiment of insolence and lack of restraint.

Given the history of etymology in English dictionaries, I find it extremely difficult to belive that they are all wrong when they say that the word hubris does not have Greek roots and that it is merely a 20th centruy misconception that the word hubris as a Greek word is a myth.

But it would certainly be hubris for me to suggest that with any absolute certainty.

It was a Greek word. What I'm saying is that the meaning it has picked up in English (which I could find no evidence it meant anything other than 'rude, snotty' prior to about 1900) is not there in the way it was used in Greek. If you look through Greek texts carefully (perseus project might be useful if you want to spend some time on this - www.perseus.tufts.edu ) you will quickly realize this.

The Greeks said 'hubris' (which you spelled correctly with greek characters, Υβρις, pronounced the same in both languages) most typically meant 'violent.'

st.cronin 03-01-2006 07:30 PM
dola

If I had to guess how it picked up the meaning 'pride, insolence to God,' I would say it had to do with Christian thinkers imposing their values on the Greek texts - trying to add something that wasn't there. The rage of Achilles was not directed at God/Gods - it was directed at his fellow men.

Tasan 03-01-2006 08:14 PM
Okay, my turn at the photoshopping:




So my skilz are lacking....

Bonegavel 03-01-2006 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch
Let's see, Matrix Games is giving up release dates?
It's ash wednesday.

Buccaneer 03-01-2006 08:43 PM
Weak effort today, I think, compared to yesterday. Maybe tomorrow will get us to the ultimate orgiastic climax?

st.cronin 03-01-2006 09:41 PM
I haven't checked the boards over there. Is the demo out yet?

kingfc22 03-01-2006 09:50 PM
I think this thread is finally dying.

Groundhog 03-01-2006 10:19 PM
No, all this thread needs is for something else to happen over on the matrix games forums. The fuel so far provided for this fire has been all used up, and it's up to Daivd and the crew to provide more.

Dutch 03-01-2006 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonegavel
It's ash wednesday.

I got it, I'm Catholic and the only one I know that wasn't walking around with ashes on the forehead. :)

SunDevil 03-01-2006 11:22 PM
And we should have some new fuel soon.....

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1075181

SunDevil 03-01-2006 11:38 PM
Also can anyone explain to me why you would need a new video card for this game?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...067932&mpage=2

Here is my post:

Why do you need such a powerful graphics card when statements like this are made?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...1&key=⧸

David Winter
Matrix Elite Guard

Posts: 595
Joined: 11/23/2004
From: Vancouver, BC
Status: online I've touched on this a few times in the past weeks.

Due mostly to the lack of animations, "madden like" jukes, spins, and other special moves are not included in the game. I have a side step animation and that's pretty much it. If you're playing in arcade mode and your controller has triggers, you can use those to side step left and right.

People should not be expecting Madden style arcade play. I have always said that arcade mode in Maximum-Football resembles a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000.




If the arcade mode will resemble a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000, what is so graphic intensive about it? Thanks.

Airhog 03-01-2006 11:38 PM

shaggyra 03-01-2006 11:40 PM
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Groundhog 03-01-2006 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunDevil
And we should have some new fuel soon.....

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1075181

:eek:

Man, if this ever comes in to play we will have enough fuel to set the world alight!

Tasan 03-02-2006 12:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhog


hey hey hey....thats what I was trying to say, just not so directly there...BRING ON THE GOOD STUFF AGAIN!!!

I miss the good ol' page 29 days....

thesloppy 03-02-2006 01:22 AM

cthomer5000 03-02-2006 05:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfc22
I think this thread is finally dying.

No, it's just ready to evolve again like it has a few times. Patience everyone... patience.

albionmoonlight 03-02-2006 06:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Weak effort today, I think, compared to yesterday. Maybe tomorrow will get us to the ultimate orgiastic climax?

I agree, though I think that the running discussion of the meaning of words in ancient Greek has been an underrated part of this thread. I take part of the blame for yesterday--I tried to force the hot cartoon woman draft in the middle of the thread, and that did not pan out. I think that you have to just let the thread come to you--you can't force it.

That said, I'm glad to know that I am not the only person who thinks of little blue creatures whenever rkmsuf posts.

Bonegavel 03-02-2006 07:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch
I got it, I'm Catholic and the only one I know that wasn't walking around with ashes on the forehead. :)
Heh, I'm not catholic, but, as happens every year, I see this person with shit on his/her forehead and I'm thinking, "damn, does he know he has a big grey smudge on his head?" By the 10th black and smudgy brow I realize it's ash wednesday.

Toddzilla 03-02-2006 07:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonegavel
Heh, I'm not catholic, but, as happens every year, I see this person with shit on his/her forehead and I'm thinking, "damn, does he know he has a big grey smudge on his head?" By the 10th black and smudgy brow I realize it's ash wednesday.
We techies like to call it "Toner Wednesday" after a coleague thought someone had copier toner on their forehead. Lawl.

Dutch 03-02-2006 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thesloppy

I give this an A for effort. :)

moriarty 03-02-2006 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunDevil
Also can anyone explain to me why you would need a new video card for this game?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...067932&mpage=2

Here is my post:

Why do you need such a powerful graphics card when statements like this are made?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...1&key=⧸

David Winter
Matrix Elite Guard

Posts: 595
Joined: 11/23/2004
From: Vancouver, BC
Status: online I've touched on this a few times in the past weeks.

Due mostly to the lack of animations, "madden like" jukes, spins, and other special moves are not included in the game. I have a side step animation and that's pretty much it. If you're playing in arcade mode and your controller has triggers, you can use those to side step left and right.

People should not be expecting Madden style arcade play. I have always said that arcade mode in Maximum-Football resembles a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000.




If the arcade mode will resemble a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000, what is so graphic intensive about it? Thanks.

I'm guessing, but it's probably because he wrote in in DirectX8, and some of the older video cards don't have the capabilities/drivers to support some of the features in DirectX8. It really doesn't matter how many animations he has, if the beer tent uses some new T&L features from DirectX it'll probably cause a problem on older machines.

shaggyra 03-02-2006 08:08 AM
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Mustang 03-02-2006 09:01 AM
Guess what?

I got a fever and the only prescription is.. MORE CUSTOMIZABILITY!

cartman 03-02-2006 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang
Guess what?

I got a fever and the only prescription is.. MORE CUSTOMIZABILITY!

How can you have more, when it is already at Maximum? Does it go to 11? :D

Mustang 03-02-2006 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman
How can you have more, when it is already at Maximum? Does it go to 11? :D

How about throwing some crayons in the case so you can color in the dvd front? I want female and Area 51 alien player animations. Where's my Johnny Rico Flip 6 3 hole play? How about Black Sunday blimps that terrorize your players? I want my running back to pull out a gun, run down the sidelines, capping players in the knee caps and ultimately blow his head off when surrounded.. Thats what I want..

If you are customizin'.. you are tryin'...

gstelmack 03-02-2006 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunDevil
Also can anyone explain to me why you would need a new video card for this game?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...067932&mpage=2

Here is my post:

Why do you need such a powerful graphics card when statements like this are made?

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1072304&mpage=1&key=⧸

David Winter
Matrix Elite Guard

Posts: 595
Joined: 11/23/2004
From: Vancouver, BC
Status: online I've touched on this a few times in the past weeks.

Due mostly to the lack of animations, "madden like" jukes, spins, and other special moves are not included in the game. I have a side step animation and that's pretty much it. If you're playing in arcade mode and your controller has triggers, you can use those to side step left and right.

People should not be expecting Madden style arcade play. I have always said that arcade mode in Maximum-Football resembles a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000.




If the arcade mode will resemble a slimmed down version of NFL Fever 2000, what is so graphic intensive about it? Thanks.
The 6600 is not a "powerful" card. It's more the standard run-of-the-mill "get this if you are buying a new video card today and want a good fast card without breakign the bank" video card. That advice wasn't saying "you need at least this card to run Maximum Football" but rather "you want this card if you're buying a new video card / computer and want to play 3D games on it".

(I can't believe I've been forced to step up and defend Matrix twice because people are LOOKING for bad things to say about the game and aren't reading what Matrix is actually SAYING).

Bee 03-02-2006 11:57 AM
Looks like they've quit updating the release info and I've visited the forums a couple times and it looks like they are deleting threads at a very fast rate....

digamma 03-02-2006 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bee
Looks like they've quit updating the release info and I've visited the forums a couple times and it looks like they are deleting threads at a very fast rate....
The most curious deletion was the Jennifer Winter thread specifically for complaints and questions about the release. Nice work by the media relations staff.

Bee 03-02-2006 12:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by digamma
The most curious deletion was the Jennifer Winter thread specifically for complaints and questions about the release. Nice work by the media relations staff.

Yep, that one confused me. Also, I noticed when she posted that thread she no longer had the title "Media Relations" or whatever it was under her name.

albionmoonlight 03-02-2006 12:20 PM
RE: Release Info - 3/2/2006 5:49:46 PM
Erik Rutins
Administrator



Posts: 6890
Joined: 3/28/2000
From: Vermont, USA
Status: online 		I will be posting a brand new release info thread later today. We're having a conference at the moment to make a final decision on the release based on testing. Things continue to look good and I anticipate we will release tomorrow morning, to give it one more day of final testing, but I encourage you to wait for the final announcement on that later today. You all know the drill at this point - if something new and critical pops up, it will be delayed again. However, nothing like that has popped up so far, so we are keeping our fingers crossed and thinking the last build will be the new final gold master for release.

Locking this thread at this point, I'll post a new one later today.

Regards,

- Erik

_____________________________

Erik Rutins
Director of Product Development and Business Relations

Bee 03-02-2006 12:22 PM
I think Antmeister should have done a parody song of Annie's "tomorrow, tomorrow"

Passacaglia 03-02-2006 12:23 PM
At this point, why do they even bother posting updates? They're not saying anything significant anyway, and nobody really expects the game to be out on any given day.

aran 03-02-2006 12:56 PM
A thought just occured to me:

If this game wanted to be truly customizable and worth purchasing, Daivd should have made a simple scripting language (or used Python) to allow modders to fully customize rulesets. It'd allow you to do crazy shit; it'd allow almost any action in the game to affect the score, number of timeouts, or anything else (number of players on the field?). That would be real customizability and flexibility. What Daivd's doing is a complete and utter joke compared to that.

cartman 03-02-2006 01:13 PM
To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday"

Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away
Now it looks as though we're about to play
Oh, I can't wait for yesterday.

Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me,
Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3.
Oh, beta testing came suddenly.

Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say.
I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday.

Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to post away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Bonegavel 03-02-2006 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antmeister71
THIS IS AN UNBELIEVABLE VIDEO AND I AM SURPRISED NOBODY MENTIONED IT YET!!!

Check this puppy out:
Broken Yards

And if it doesn't load, you can download the zipped version here:
Broken Yards zip file
OMG, I can't believe I missed this!!! I was too busy creating crappy photoshop art to notice this...

WELL DONE ANT!!

Bee 03-02-2006 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aran
A thought just occured to me:

If this game wanted to be truly customizable and worth purchasing, Daivd should have made a simple scripting language (or used Python) to allow modders to fully customize rulesets. It'd allow you to do crazy shit; it'd allow almost any action in the game to affect the score, number of timeouts, or anything else (number of players on the field?). That would be real customizability and flexibility. What Daivd's doing is a complete and utter joke compared to that.

Well, basic things like onside kicks, fake kicks and options "break" the AI, so I would guess anything that customizable would vaporize the AI.

rkmsuf 03-02-2006 01:18 PM
how hard is it to customize nothing?

Antmeister 03-02-2006 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonegavel
...I was too busy creating crappy photoshop art to notice this...

Crappy Photoshop? You stuff is hilarious. It even made the video.
:D

SplitPersonality1 03-02-2006 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman
To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday"

Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away
Now it looks as though we're about to play
Oh, I can't wait for yesterday.

Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me,
Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3.
Oh, beta testing came suddenly.

Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say.
I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday.

Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to post away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Well done.

(although I would have gone with "I beleive in yesterday")

dervack 03-02-2006 01:52 PM
Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.

FrogMan 03-02-2006 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dervack
Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.

I see no "dervack" in the members list anymore, you might have been banned...

Speaking of member list, anybody kind of find this amazingly high:
Quote:
There are a total of 18465 members
18393 members match your search criteria (excluding banned members)

Looking at our own FOFC, the total number isn't shown but there are 86 pages with +/- 25 members per page or about 2150 members...

FM

Bee 03-02-2006 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrogMan
I see no "dervack" in the members list anymore, you might have been banned...

Speaking of member list, anybody kind of find this amazingly high:

Looking at our own FOFC, the total number isn't shown but there are 86 pages with +/- 25 members per page or about 2150 members...

FM

Quote:
Front Office Football Central Statistics
Threads: 42,129, Posts: 1,018,136, Members: 4,722

Quote:
from Matrix Forums

Forum Statistics
18465 Registered users have made 1019643 posts in 208 forums. There are currently 120798 topics.

Their forum includes members posting on all the various games, etc. I'm actually surprised it's not more than 18,000+, since Matrix Games has published quite a few games.

edit: What's interesting is we will probably pass them in number of posts in about 3 days (2 days if Jeeber stays signed on). :D

JeeberD 03-02-2006 02:00 PM
I wonder if that's the number of members for all of the entire Matrix boards. Still, that's a lot of damn users...

rkmsuf 03-02-2006 02:03 PM
Frank Brickowski is logged in over there.

wade moore 03-02-2006 02:04 PM
OMG.

Video Released.

I caught something in it, gotta try and get a screen capture to explain.

OMG.

Link: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1075989

FrogMan 03-02-2006 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bee
Their forum includes members posting on all the various games, etc. I'm actually surprised it's not more than 18,000+, since Matrix Games has published quite a few games.

you're right, I thought that I was still on the MF website...

Thanks for righting me :)

FM

dervack 03-02-2006 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wade moore
OMG.

Video Released.

I caught something in it, gotta try and get a screen capture to explain.

OMG.

Link: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1075989
Uh, a little help here. What did you catch?

SackAttack 03-02-2006 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman
To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday"

Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away
Now it looks as though we're about to play
Oh, I can't wait for yesterday.

Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me,
Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3.
Oh, beta testing came suddenly.

Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say.
I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday.

Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to post away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

That's a testament to the Beatles, I guess; I heard the Billy Dean version of this song. When a semi-obscure country artist is covering your stuff, that says what kind of an impact you've had across the breadth of music.

wade moore 03-02-2006 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dervack
Uh, a little help here. What did you catch?

Nevermind.

I'm an idiot.

The CFL has 12 players on the field at a time.

st.cronin 03-02-2006 02:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wade moore
Nevermind.

I'm an idiot.

The CFL has 12 players on the field at a time.

Wait, they actually got something RIGHT??? Stop the presses!!!!

gstelmack 03-02-2006 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dervack
Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.
There was some note about you needing a month or two rest since you wouldn't stop changing your sig.

albionmoonlight 03-02-2006 02:22 PM
I know we have people going over the video right now like the Zapruder film--but I don't think that you will find anything. After the last video, I think that they went over this one with a fined toothed comb before releasing it to the public.

cthomer5000 03-02-2006 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SackAttack
That's a testament to the Beatles, I guess; I heard the Billy Dean version of this song. When a semi-obscure country artist is covering your stuff, that says what kind of an impact you've had across the breadth of music.
I believe it is themost covered song of all time.

wade moore 03-02-2006 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
I know we have people going over the video right now like the Zapruder film--but I don't think that you will find anything. After the last video, I think that they went over this one with a fined toothed comb before releasing it to the public.

FWIW, I wasn't looking for problems..

I just looked at the lineups and said "that sure seems like a lot of people on the field"...

And I was right, but it wasn't NFL rules ;)...

albionmoonlight 03-02-2006 02:27 PM
Of course, whether you should--as a matter of good PR--review the materials that you are putting on the web in order to generate interest in your product is an exercise that I will leave for the reader.

Personally, I think that it should be the rule and not the exception.

Bee 03-02-2006 02:32 PM
I can't watch the video from work...does the TE fall down at the beginning of every run play again?

JeeberD 03-02-2006 02:34 PM
Alas, there is no gameplay footage, Bee. It's just showing league setup screens...

cartman 03-02-2006 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bee
I can't watch the video from work...does the TE fall down at the beginning of every run play again?

Nah, it just shows menu screens and formation screens. No in-game action in this one.

Bee 03-02-2006 02:41 PM
ahh...ok, thanks.

aran 03-02-2006 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bee
Well, basic things like onside kicks, fake kicks and options "break" the AI, so I would guess anything that customizable would vaporize the AI.

Of course if you allowed such heavy customizability of rules, you'd also encourage AI coders to work on custom AIs to complement the rules.

It'd be really hard, though. I definitely would NOT want to try to code a game that tried to do what i'm suggesting AND have 3d graphics.

Passacaglia 03-02-2006 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SplitPersonality1
Well done.

(although I would have gone with "I beleive in yesterday")

SplitP is back!!

aran 03-02-2006 03:16 PM
When he's scrolling through the roster of Toronto in the video, all of the Offensive Line have either 59 or 60 speed and te QBs have 70ish speed. They're fast sons o' bitches compared to the HBs who all have 80ish speed. The ratings in general also seem to be artificially bloated like madden's.

Training camp looks good, though. I like how simple it appears.

The offense appearantly only has 4 formations. Weird.

Marc Vaughan 03-02-2006 04:42 PM
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I wonder if that's the number of members for all of the entire Matrix boards. Still, that's a lot of damn users...
They do a good job managing the forums and to be honest I'm a tad jealous that they appear to be able to have someone monitor it full-time (well during office hours at least) ....

PS> The jungle that is the sigames.com forums currently have over 100,000 users - we police the jungle to the best of our ability, however there are lawless areas and users enter at their own risk ;)

Airhog 03-02-2006 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan
They do a good job managing the forums and to be honest I'm a tad jealous that they appear to be able to have someone monitor it full-time (well during office hours at least) ....

PS> The jungle that is the sigames.com forums currently have over 100,000 users - we police the jungle to the best of our ability, however there are lawless areas and users enter at their own risk ;)



This thread is now complete

st.cronin 03-02-2006 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhog
This thread is now complete

no it isn't

JeffR 03-02-2006 04:56 PM
I have to admit I like the look of the interface. Uncluttered, consistent, appears to be easy to navigate. Doesn't look like things like stat/ratings columns are sortable, though.

Desnudo 03-02-2006 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan
They do a good job managing the forums and to be honest I'm a tad jealous that they appear to be able to have someone monitor it full-time (well during office hours at least) ....

PS> The jungle that is the sigames.com forums currently have over 100,000 users - we police the jungle to the best of our ability, however there are lawless areas and users enter at their own risk ;)

OTF is policed? That's like the red zone area that pizza delivery refuses to go to.

cartman 03-02-2006 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhog
This thread is now complete

Gotta agree with st.cronin on this one.

However, it would have taken a big step towards completion if Marc had told us that "Maximum Football" was a name that they had copyrighted as a potential name when they couldn't use Championship Manager anymore.

:D

albionmoonlight 03-02-2006 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR
I have to admit I like the look of the interface. Uncluttered, consistent, appears to be easy to navigate. Doesn't look like things like stat/ratings columns are sortable, though.

I agree. Like most everyone here, I hope that the game is good. Movies like this are nice to see in that regard.

st.cronin 03-02-2006 05:03 PM
This thread can't be complete. I haven't once mentioned the quarterback for my favorite football team, and I don't think we've seen a picture of Pumpy yet.

Desnudo 03-02-2006 05:07 PM
We are only two pages away from 50 too. Up over Heartbreak Hill people!

vex 03-02-2006 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhog
This thread is now complete

Hater

st.cronin 03-02-2006 06:17 PM
So, the game comes out tomorrow?

wishbone 03-02-2006 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by st.cronin
So, the game comes out tomorrow?
It only takes a day or two once the Gold Release Master Final build is complete. Thanks to the internet!

QuikSand 03-02-2006 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wishbone
Gold Release Master Final Build

This title seems inadequate. Can't we add a little bit more to it?

cartman 03-02-2006 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by st.cronin
So, the game comes out tomorrow?

The game'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be bugs!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the hard drive,
And the defect list
'Til there's none!

When I'm stuck a play
That's grey,
And phony,
I hike it to my tight end
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

The game'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Third and negative 8 you say
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I'll release ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!


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