MJ

I would have picked a porn star but that's me. I will have a oil rich country with plenty of beautiful women walking around.

I wouldn't call the rolling stones pop.

BB King! Damn you took my secret weapon

lol

anyways, VERY psyched to get my clear #1 musician pick for an artist this late in the draft. Great pickup IMHO.

11.9 St. Benedict--Religious Leader-- Italy--Pre 20th century

Let's go with the father of Western Christianity monastic tradition and a large order of monks.

cool pick danny

Didn't this get changed to Italy?

That's what i was wondering but never got it confirmed by Larry.

Hmm, I thought I had changed it, but it must have got lost in all the issues I had with the first post. Since Noop requested the change before anyone else picked, it is allowed, so ntndeacon will have to repick.

I'd like it if we can hold off until he gets back here to make his pick, though, because he may not want religious leader now so I wouldn't want him to lose any other picks because he rightfully thought he was making a valid pick.

umm, where did the part of the post go with each catergory and who has been picked there?

The forum erased it, so I have to redo it from scratch, which is taking some time.

I have PM'd ntndeacon to come back and repick. Let's hold off until he does.

ugh

yah - death

We sure had our progress halted yesterday and today

ah well. all drafts hit a wall somewhere...no big deal

sorry I had forgotton that change. I am looking now.

Lathum's up.

NTN is fixing his previous pick and then Lathum x2, you, me and NTN again.

11.9 Guru Nanak Dev--Religious leader--Pakistan--pre 20th century

1st of the 10 10 Sihk Gurus and the central figure in the 5th largest religion, Sihkism.

I am up, yes?

Yes

I believe so, Lathum

OK, so not having everything consolodated makes it really hard to see what countries are available if what catergories so if I mess up I'm sorry

11.12- Diplomat- Bono-Ireland- 20th Century- I am sure I'll get shit for this pick being out of the box, but the guy has done countless work in Africa and was knighted and nominated for a Noble prize.

so is there even anywhere that the catergories are listed anymore?

Leader/Ruler:
Army Chief:
Navy Chief:
Air Chief:
Chief Diplomat:
Economist:
Justice Minister:
Civil Rights Leader:
Religious Leader:
Scientist:
Athlete:
Artist:
Manmade Structure:
Georgraphical Location:

I will try to finish up the category listings tonight.

Wow. Just. Wow.

care to elaborate?

I admit it's out of the box, but you can't deny the mans accomplishments.

I will tell you Lathum if you send Bono to my country there will be war.

I think all 11 of us will now declare war on Lathum and wipe him out.

guy got nominated for a Noble prize, must be doing something right

Sorry. got locked out at work for some reason fucking websense decided to all of a sudden block FOFC. I will have to track down that alternate URL to access FOFC from work. Or I could just order my netwrok engineer to reconfigure websense since I am incharge of it.

12.2- Captain, René Fonck-Air Force Commander, (France)- post 20th century

He was the top Allied WW1 Ace

??

That was weird, pasted the wrong text?

If it was a Nobel Prize I would be more impressed. lol

I just have a simple elaboration, and one I'm sure you had to consider.

It's choosing a part-time humanitarian for a diplomat position. That just seems...off to me somehow. Humanitarian does not translate into diplomat, and a part time one even less.

That's all.

Leader/Ruler:

1.2 surtt - Julius Cesar, Leader/Ruler, Italy, pre-20th
1.11 Galaril - Abraham Lincoln, Leader/Ruler, United States, Pre-20th
2.12 Apathetic Lurker - Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th
4.3 Danny - Adolph Hitler, Leader/Ruler, Germany, 20th century
4.6 Coffee Warlord - Charlemagne, Leader/Ruler, France, Pre-20th
5.5 Noop - King David, Leader, Israel, Pre-20th Century
7.12 Lathum - Mao Zedung, Leader/Ruler, China, 20th
9.4 Barkeep - Sulieman the Magnificent Turkey Ruler/Leader Pre-20th
10.4 ntndeacon - Chi'ang Kai-shek, Leader/Ruler, Taiwan, 20th Century
10.5 DaddyTorgo - Jawaharlal Nehru, Ruler/Leader, India, 20th Century
10.7 Izulde - Queen Isabella - Ruler/Leader - Spain - Pre-20th Century

Chief Diplomat:

2.10 Abe Sargent - Marco Polo, Chief Diplomat, Italy, Pre-20th
3.6 Izulde - Otto von Bismarck, Chief Diplomat, Germany, Pre-20th
3.9 ntndeacon - Theodore Roosevelt, Chief Diplomat, United States, 20th century
5.2 surtt - Sir Winston Churchill, Diplomat, UK, Post-20
5.10 Danny - Pope John Paul II, Chief Diplomat, Poland, 20th century
6.9 Barkeep49 - Tallyrand, Diplomat, France, Pre-20th Century
7.8 DaddyTorgo - Klemens Wenzel, Prince von Metternich, Chief Diplomat Austria, Pre-20th Century
7.11 Galaril - Mikhail Gorbachev, Diplomat, Russia, 20th
8.6 Coffee Warlord - Yasser Arafat, Diplomat, Egypt, 20th
11.12 Lathum - Bono, Chief Diplomat, Ireland, 20th Century

Army Chief:

1.1 Apathetic Lurker - Sun Tzu, Army Chief, China, Pre-20th
1.3 Abe Sargent - Alexander the Great, Army Chief, Greece, pre-20th
2.2 Galaril - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Army Chief, United States, 20th
2.11 surtt - Napoleon Bonaparte, Army Chief, France, pre-20th
3.4 Barkeep49 - Ghengis Khan, Army Chief, Mongolia, Pre-20th
4.1 Lathum - William Wallace, Army Chief, Great Britain, Pre-20th
5.7 Coffee Warlord - Erwin Rommel, Army Leader, Germany, Post 20th
5.9 ntndeacon - Attilla the Hun, Army Chief, Hungary, pre-20th century
7.5 Noop - Saladin, Army Chief, Egypt, Pre-20th
8.7 Izulde - Rodrigo "El Cid" Diaz de Vivar - Army Chief - Spain - Pre-20th Century

Navy Chief: (This category is complete)

1.9 ntndeacon - Horatio Nelson, Navy Chief, Great Britain, pre-20th century
3.12 Lathum - John Paul Jones, Naval Chief, United States, Pre-20th century
5.3 Abe Sargent - Tōgō Heihachirō, Japan, Navy Chief, 20th
8.9 Barkeep - Yi Sun-sin Naval Chief Korea Pre-20th
8.12 Apathetic Lurker - Karl Doenitz, Naval Chief, Germany 20th
9.7 Coffee Warlord - Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th
9.8 DaddyTorgo - Themistocles, Naval Chief, Greece, Pre-20th century
9.11 Galaril - Peter I The Great, Naval Commander-Russia, pre-20th century
10.3 Danny - Michiel de Ruyter, Naval Commander - Netherlands, Pre-20th Century
10.8 Noop - Alonso Pérez de Guzmán - Navy Chief - Spain - pre 20th
10.11 Surtt - Ferdinand Magellan, Navy Chief, Portugal, Pre-20
11.6 Izulde - Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century

Air Chief:

1.6 Izulde - Manfred "The Red Baron" von Richthofen, Air Chief, Germany, 20th Century
2.9 Barkeep49 - John Glenn, Air Chief, United States, 20th
3.1 Apathetic Lurker - Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th
5.8 DaddyTorgo - Mordechai Hod, Air Force Leader, Israel, 20th Century
6.1 Lathum - Yuri Gagarin, Air Chief, Russia, 20th
6.4 ntndeacon - Alberto Santos, Dumont, Air Chief, Brazil, 20th century
6.6 Coffee Warlord - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century
7.2 surtt - Billy Bishop, Air Chief, Canada, 20th Century
7.3 Abe Sargent - Sergey Korolyov, Air Chief, Ukraine, 20th
7.10 Danny - Isoroku Yamamoto, Air Chief, Japan, 20th
12.2 Galaril - Captain Rene Fronck, Air Chief, France, 20th

Justice Minister:

2.8 Noop - King Solomon, Justice Minister, Israel, Pre-20th
3.8 DaddyTorgo - John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century
4.4 ntndeacon - Tobias Michael Carel Asser, Justice Minister, The Netherlands, 20th century
4.7 Izulde - Hammurabi, Justice Minister, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
4.9 Barkeep49 - Moses, Justice Minister, Egypt, Pre-20th
5.11 Galaril - Darius the Great, Iran , Justice Minister, Pre 20th century
6.10 Abe Sargent - John Locke, Justice Minister, UK, Pre20th
7.7 Coffee Warlord - Socrates, Justice Minister, Greece, Pre-20th

Economist:

1.4 Barkeep49 - Adam Smith, Economist, Great Britain, Pre-20th
2.4 ntndeacon - Karl Marx, Economist, Germany, pre-20th
2.5 DaddyTorgo - John Kenneth Galbraith, Economist, United States, 20th
4.12 Apathetic Lurker - Ibn Khaldoun, Economist, Tunisia, Pre-20th century
9.5 Noop - Xiao Gang - Economist - China - 20th Century
9.6 Izulde - Satoru Iwata - Economist - Japan - 20th Century
9.10 Danny - Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century
11.2 Surtt - Charles Ponzi, Economist, Italy, Post-20
11.7 Coffee Warlord - Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th
11.11 Galaril - Joseph Schumpeter,Economist, Moria (Czech Rep.)-Post 20th
12.1 Lathum - Chanakya, Economist, India, pre-20th

Civil Rights Activist: (Category is done)

1.8 DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther King Jr., Civil Rights Activist, USA, 20th Century
1.12 Lathum - Nelson Mandela, Civil Rights Activist, South Africa, 20th
2.3 Danny - Mahatma Ghandi, Civil Rights Activist, India, 20th
4.2 Galaril - John Stuart Mills, Civil Rights Leader, Great Britain, Pre-20th
4.10 Abe Sargent - Mother Theresa, Civil Rights Activist, Albania, 20th
5.1 Apathetic Lurker - Simon Bolivar, Civil Rights, Venezuela, Pre-20th Century
5.6 Izulde - Confucius, Civil Rights Leader, China, Pre-20th Century
6.11 surtt - Lech Walesa, Civil Rights Activist, Poland, 20th Century
7.4 Barkeep49 - Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Civil Rights Activist, Burma, 20th Century
10.6 Coffee Warlord - Henri Dunant, Civil Rights Leader, Switzerland, 20th Century
11.5 Noop - Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th
12.4 ntndeacon - Andrei Sakarov, Civil Rights Activist, Russia, 20th Century


Scientist:

2.6 Coffee Warlord - Albert Einstein, Scientist, Germany, 20th
3.5 Noop - Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th
3.10 Danny - Aristotle, Scientist, Greece, Pre-20th
3.11 Galaril - Ben Franklin, Scientist - America, Pre 20th Century
4.5 DaddyTorgo - Isaac Newton, Scientist, United Kingdom, Pre-20th Century
4.11 surtt - Louis Pasteur, Scientist, France, Pre-20th
5.4 Barkeep49 - Marie Curie, Poland, Scientist, 20th Century
6.7 Izulde - Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century
7.1 Apathetic Lurker - Ibn al-haytham, Scientist, Iraq, Pre-20th century
8.10 Abe - Sigmund Freud, Scientist, Austria, 20th
9.9 ntndeacon - Niels Bohr-Scientist-Denmark-20th century

Artist:

2.1 Lathum - Leonardo Da Vinci, Artist, Italy, pre-20th
3.7 Coffee Warlord - William Shakespeare, Artist, England, Pre 20th
6.2 Galaril - Pablo Picasso, Artist, Spain 20th
6.3 Danny - Alfred Hitchcock, Artist, United States, 20th century
6.8 Noop - James Joyce, Artist, Ireland, 20th Century
6.12 Apathetic Lurker - En Hedu' Anna, Artist, Iraq, pre-20th century
8.11 Surtt - Vincent van Gogh, Artist, Netherlands, Pre-20th
11.3 Abe - Michelangelo, artist, Vatican, pre-20th
11.4 Barkeep - Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century
11.8 DaddyTorgo - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th


Athlete:

2.7 Izulde - Jim Brown, Athlete, United States, 20th
4.8 Noop - Pele, Athlete, Brazil, 20th Century
8.1 Lathum - Roger Bannister, Athlete, United Kingdom, 20th
8.3 Danny - Wayne Gretzky, Athlete, Canada, Post 20th century
8.4 ntndeacon - Diego Maradona-Athlete-Argentina-20th century
9.3 Abe - Miyamoto Musashi, Athelete, Japan, Pre20th
10.9 Barkeep - Nadia Elena Comăneci Romania Athlete 20th Century
10.12 Apathetic Lurker - Pierre Fredy (Baron de Coubertin), Athlete, France, pre 20th

Religious Leader:

1.7 Coffee Warlord - Jesus Christ, Religious Leader, Israel, Pre-20th
1.10 Danny - Muhammad, Religious Leader, Saudi Arabia, pre-20th
3.2 surtt - Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
3.3 Abe Sargent - Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th
8.5 DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther, Religious Leader, Germany, Pre-20th Century
8.8 Noop - Saint Augustine - Religious Leader - Algeria- Pre20th Century
10.1 Lathum - Joseph Smith, Religious Leader, USA, Pre 20th Century
10.2 Galaril - Saint Patrick, Religious Leader - Ireland, Pre-20th century
11.1 Apathetic Lurker - Zarathustra, Religious Leader, Iran, pre 20th
11.9 ntndeacon - Guru Nanak Dev--Religious leader--Pakistan--pre 20th century

Manmade Structure:

5.12 Lathum - Great Wall of China, Manmade structure, China, pre-20th7.9 ntndeacon - Great Pryamid at Giza-Man Made Structure, Egypt, pre 20th
8.2 Galaril - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th
9.2 Surtt - Panama Canal, Man made Structure, Panama, Post-20th
10.10 Abe - Sydney Opera House, Manmade Structure, Australia, 20th


Geographical Location (River, Mountain, Lake, etc.):

1.5 Noop - Oil Fields of Saudi Arabia, Geographical Location, Saudi Arabia, Pre-20th
6.5 DaddyTorgo - Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
7.6 Izulde - Mt. Everest, Geographic Location, China, 20th Century
9.1 Apathetic Lurker - British Isles, Geographic Location, UK, 20th
9.12 Lathum - Great Barrier Reef, Geographical Location, Australia- 20th Century
11.10 Danny - Amazon Rain Forest, Geographical Location - Brazil, Pre 20th Century

Working on the remaining categories.

I think some Army Chief's are missing, I'll look through

Ghengis Khan, Millitary Leader, Mongolia, Pre-20th
Rodrigo "El Cid" Diaz de Vivar - Military Chief - Spain - Pre-20th Century

Those should be added to Army Chief

Ah, I was using find so I could do it one category at a time, and I was using "Army".

Thanks, Danny!