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Abe Sargent 04-15-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1443107)
I will be leaving for work in a couple hours and off working out most of the time in the middle. So this might be my last post before deadline (and if I am killed, last post period except to say bye). But I will try to check in again before I go.

I think you all are already on this, but those of you in on the plan will need to determine how you can get it working going forward, as I may not be here to hear how DC and KWhit and path12 get involved. If anything needs to be changed up to be sure critical roles are covered, I have bid for the sex slaves, as noted.

I have decided to THROW NEON FROM THE ROCK. I'm not as certain as Narcizo is about him, but I trust Narcizo and his instincts (and haven't gotten any warm fuzzies from Neon myself), so I'm rolling with that.

Obviously, then, FREE LSG/CHUBBY. It's not the lack of posting isn't bad and super-suspicious, but the continued issues with this player (the combo) combined now with poor wealth makes them not our most improtant target. I would rather leave the jail open for better candidates.

For arrests, I would recommend Dodgerchick and Anxiety. I'm not even sure if Anxiety acquiescing to the planb would stop me from wanting to arrest him at this point. Dodgerchick's resistance and desire to be arrested is all well and good, so might as well let her have what she wants--and then possibly throw her off the rock.

path12 would be my next choice after that. He is growing in suspicion with me, as he has not been present (which may just be weekend related, must just be wants to hide his feelingsa on the plan) the past couple days, he has not yet committed to being a part of the plan, and he was one of my original five for the Day One sword killer patron.

For consuls, it was a tough choice, as I have good confidence in several players. For now I will...

ELECT IRONHEAD FOR CONSUL
ELECT PASSACAGLIA FOR CONSUL

Arresting people who resist the plan without good reason is key right now. We need our people in the seats of power to do so. I would have voted for Autumn but he has not been around the past day or so, and we need someone to be aorund to be certain to put in arrest orders.

I think that covers all the bases.



I "acquiesed" yesterday CR, so calm down. I' said I'd do it for a day, and then we'd see where we stand.

Abe Sargent 04-15-2007 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1443097)
CW has vouched for KWhit. That's the only pseduo-clearing I know of.


I thought was a DC clearing?

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 02:40 PM

DC...relax. I understand it can be frustrating. My first game with an actual complicated role I flubbed it up badly. Hell, even my 2nd I did too. It's a learning curve. No one's actually upset with you or anything, it's just a game. Take a deep breath and hug the kids, hmmm? I can only imagine the complexities of a non-vanilla role in a game that's this complicated for the vanillas.

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 02:42 PM

I hate to say this but the plan CR has laid out for us seems to be in grave danger with all of these last minute changes.

Lorena 04-15-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1443091)
Okay, this is critical because you're assigned the sword killer. Are you saying you put in another bid for ardent?

If so, please say so. At least then, if KWhit decides to join with us, then he can switch and put in a bid for the sword killer.

THE VERY LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS LET THE SWORD KILLER FALL INTO TARQ HANDS.

And I REALLY don't care for how you continue to put yourself ahead of the village, even at the potential cost of us losing two loyal Senators tomorrow instead of just one.

Caps are for emphasis. ;)

Coffee, I certainly hope everything's okay with your backup sword killer bid. Looks like we may need it. Grammaticus, I would recommend sending one in for the sword killer as well.


Since ya'll don't believe me to be good, yes, I put a bid in for Ardent and awaiting to get jailed. LIke I said ealier, why do you think I've been bidding on Ardent? I've been waiting to get jailed and nothing. Imthecrew, Marc Vaughn, and Bulletsponge (is there anyone else I forgot) were all at the top and they were either jailed or killed, I'm just waiting I dunno why I haven't been sent to the slammer yet :confused:

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 02:51 PM

Yes, I will cast a backup to the backup bid on the sword killer.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 02:51 PM

second-level analysis: does anyone think that maybe there's some mechanism in play where ardent can make a bad person scan good or something?

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 02:52 PM

gram...you left me off your list...where do you see me?

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1443128)
second-level analysis: does anyone think that maybe there's some mechanism in play where ardent can make a bad person scan good or something?


He is a lawyer, I assume he helps the defense of whoever hires him whether they are bad or good.

Abe Sargent 04-15-2007 02:55 PM

I need ta get some votes in.

Vote Barkeep for Consul - Seems like a voice of reason
Vote CR for Consul - I disagree with his reasoning at times, but you can't fake passion

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1443129)
gram...you left me off your list...where do you see me?


Your right, I didn't notice. I think I would put you at hard to read, but you normally post a whole lot more. Problem is, even when you are bad you post a lot.

Abe Sargent 04-15-2007 02:56 PM

Oh, forgot to mention, I beleive BK when he says that he was late and missed the deadline when he had the role before.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1443131)
I need ta get some votes in.

Vote Barkeep for Consul - Seems like a voice of reason
Vote CR for Consul - I disagree with his reasoning at times, but you can't fake passion


CR took himself off the table for consul because he will not be around due to the long work days on Monday and Tuesday.

Lorena 04-15-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1443123)
DC...relax. I understand it can be frustrating. My first game with an actual complicated role I flubbed it up badly. Hell, even my 2nd I did too. It's a learning curve. No one's actually upset with you or anything, it's just a game. Take a deep breath and hug the kids, hmmm? I can only imagine the complexities of a non-vanilla role in a game that's this complicated for the vanillas.


Yeah sorry about that DT, my emotions got the better of me. Antmeister read my posts and said he won't play ww with me anymore... so I guess I fudged that up.

I'm upset because people say, "Well why did you scan this person it was a bad scan" so of course I'm gonna be mad. I mean who is a good scan anyway? Aren't we all suspicious from the getgo? This is a legit question, who is a good scan because I'd like to know. I thought Alan was a good scan but apparently some seem to think it wasn't. I"m always suspicious of alan he plays the helpful villager when a wolf so that's why I scanned him. I sent sex slaves to Ironhead because he was being nitpicky with some stuff Alan was saying and I suspected him. I had Autumn scanned because at that point I thought he had the most votes for counsel (I was wrong Narcizo did) and I wanted to scan someone who would hold power.

I mean can someone tell me why these were bad? They make sense to me but apparently to the more experienced players they're bad. Every single game I fell like why even bother. Ugh... just frustrating.

Abe Sargent 04-15-2007 03:02 PM

Musta missed that, thanks Gram! Seems fair enough, after all, he missed my post sayign that I'd go alogn with his plan for a day ;)

Hmmm. Who to vote for.

Unvote CR for Consul


There's few I trust at this point. Very few. Let's go with one of the cheapest senators in Rome. And someone with whom I have some modicum of trust.

Vote Daddyus Torgous Consul

Narcizo 04-15-2007 03:06 PM

I've got to dash. I've placed an arrest on Dodgerchick.

Vote Ironhead for Consul

I think he's talking sense and I'm getting good vibes from him.
Sorry to love you and leave you guys. Bye

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 03:06 PM

FTR I'd be happy to be consul again if people want to give me another shot.

Coffee Warlord 04-15-2007 03:10 PM

Un-Elect Passa for Consul

Elect KWhit for Consul

Forgot he was available. Still tops on my list of trustworthy folks.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 03:20 PM

trust in me anxiety? not that I don't appreciate the vote of confidence...but that's suspicious. I mean I know i'm good, but that's unusual.

DC...you just hafta do what you think is right. I think alan was a good scan for sure...autumn I dunno

bulletsponge 04-15-2007 03:22 PM


Grammaticus 04-15-2007 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge (Post 1443146)


:eek:

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 03:27 PM

Gah. Cronin's box is full. What's his email? I'll have to send in my bid that way.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1443119)
I said I'd go along with it today CR.


Wow, really? How did I miss that? If so, I apologize. A strong part of my reasoning against you was that I thought you hadn't committed to doing this. I will have to review your posts when I get home.

Well, if that's the case, it might be better to arrest DC and path. But I'm still far from certain about anything on Anxiety.

KWhit 04-15-2007 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1443098)
Just to review the status of the plan right now. Here is how I presented it. I have added in CAPS what has publically been stated about these bids.

Dodgeus Erchickus-- Bid for MACRO, the sword killer--MAY BE BIDDING FOR ARDENT INSTEAD. NEED TO CONFIRM.
Kayus Whitus-- Bid for ARDENT, lawyer--HASN"T SAID IF HE WILL PARTICPATE. IF DC BIDS ON ARDENT, HE WOULD NEED TO BID FOR MACRO THE SWORD KILLER.
Abeus Anxietus-- Bid for DURUS PIMPUS, sex slave dealer--HAS REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN SO FAR

Ironus Headus-- Bid for MAXIMUS MAXIMUS, legionnaire/BG--HAS POSTED BUT NOT SAID HE SUBMITTED A BID. WE NEED IRONHEAD TO GET IN ON THIS.
Passus Caglius-- Bid for VITUS AVIDUS, legionnaire/BG-- HAS PUT INA BID.

This should be all that is necessary to control the services. I would like to set up backup options, but I am uncertain of this because we start to get to more suspicious people (IMO). CoffeeWarlord and path12, though, have to be committed, because they are on the same level as Ironhead and Passacaglia. Wemust also lock down what they bid on.

Thusly, they should bid on:

Coffeus Yakus Warlordus-- Bid for MACRO, the sword killer== HAS PUT IN A BID. IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL RIGHT NOW, WITH THE TOP WEALTH ISSUES.
Pathus Twelvus-- Bid for ARDENT, lawyer-- HAS NOT POSTED IF HE PUT IN A BID, TO MY KNOWLEDGE (HASN'T POSTED AT ALL, I THINK).

Narcizo and I are in the next wealth group, so we should submit backup bids as well. I will bid for the sex slave dealer, if Narcizo will bid for one of the legionnaires/BGs.

NARCIZO AND I HAVE BOTH PUT IN OUR BIDS, MINE FOR THE SEX SLAVE, NARCIZO FOR THE BODYGUARD. PEREGRINE HAS PUT IN A BID FOR THE SEX SLAVES.

BARKEEP AND GRAMMATICUS HAVE OFFERED TO PUT IN BIDS, NO WORD YET, HOPEFULYL COMING.

AUTUMN HAS NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE YESTERDAY AND NOT KNOWN IF HE WILL PARTICIPATE.

Given all of the above, I would be primarily concerned (after the top tier issues) about making sure Ironhead states if he has gotten a bid in, and if Path12 and Autumn show up to put in backup bids.



I'm in on this revised plan. Since DC bid on Ardent, I will bid on Macro the sword killer.

However, whomever wins the BodyGuards, I recommend you at least give consideration to sending one my way to protect me. I fear I will be a prime target since now the Tarqs know I don't have one myself.

KWhit 04-15-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1443149)
Gah. Cronin's box is full. What's his email? I'll have to send in my bid that way.


Anybody have his email address?

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1443117)
I agree that we should probably try to grab Balbus. Since I have the sword killer tonight and will not be using him there should only be a poison attempt against the village. I think a possible block of a conversion, or even a conversion for the side of good might be more important than having 2 bodyguards out there.


I forgot you had the sword killer. You might ask everyone if there are candidates they would like you to use it on, if we feel strongly enough about it. I don't know that we do. I can only think of one on off of the top of my head for whom it would make sense, and I'm not sure we can get to him/her where they are right now.

Ironhead 04-15-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1443154)
I forgot you had the sword killer. You might ask everyone if there are candidates they would like you to use it on, if we feel strongly enough about it. I don't know that we do. I can only think of one on off of the top of my head for whom it would make sense, and I'm not sure we can get to him/her where they are right now.


I am strongly against the idea of using the sword killer against anyone at this point. Chances are very high that we kill a villager, and since there is no reveal of roles for people who have been sword killed it doesn't really give us any information - just one more dead player.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1443126)
Since ya'll don't believe me to be good, yes, I put a bid in for Ardent and awaiting to get jailed. LIke I said ealier, why do you think I've been bidding on Ardent? I've been waiting to get jailed and nothing. Imthecrew, Marc Vaughn, and Bulletsponge (is there anyone else I forgot) were all at the top and they were either jailed or killed, I'm just waiting I dunno why I haven't been sent to the slammer yet :confused:


Why on Earth did you think you would be picked before them? You were fairly well trusted for most of the early going. You have been a great position to help us and reeally, you have been as helpful as ImTheCrew was, if I am reading you right.

DC, I'm not advocating your arrest to clear you. I am advocating your arrest to see you thrown off of the rock. You won't hear about yoru scan before your dead if it's my way. Honestly, you haven't given us much choice.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 1443155)
I am strongly against the idea of using the sword killer against anyone at this point. Chances are very high that we kill a villager, and since there is no reveal of roles for people who have been sword killed it doesn't really give us any information - just one more dead player.



That's certainly your prerogative, and you're probably right to be cautious. I'm just throwing the option out there since we have it at our disposal.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1443121)
I "acquiesed" yesterday CR, so calm down. I' said I'd do it for a day, and then we'd see where we stand.


I have actually alwys been perfectly calm. My early reasoning on you was entirely rationally based. It's no big deal to me if you didn't want to go with the plan, just was letting you know there could be consequences if you were to go against the plan and we had a Tarq issue.

Keep in mind, BTW, we won't really have a good read ont he plan until the Monday night deadline, meaning we will have to devise the next day's plan and move forward with it before we know the results of the first.

KWhit 04-15-2007 03:46 PM

Cronin - clear out your PM box!

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1443133)
Oh, forgot to mention, I beleive BK when he says that he was late and missed the deadline when he had the role before.


I don't think I ever said in my earlier doubts about BK, so I thought I would piggyback on this from Anxiety. I absolutely 100% believe BK had the Internet issues on Thursday night. I have complete trust that he would not lie about RL stuff, as he says. He has always been an up front and honest player, to a fault (outside of game mechanics that is).

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1443131)
I need ta get some votes in.

Vote Barkeep for Consul - Seems like a voice of reason
Vote CR for Consul - I disagree with his reasoning at times, but you can't fake passion


I appreciate it, but, really, you mistake passion for "filling the AlanT" void. I haven't once felt in rise in emotion about this game, just playing along and enjoying it. Now DC, that's passion. :D

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1443160)
Cronin - clear out your PM box!


lol, well, we're fairly certain you're putting in a bid. :)

I think st. cronin put up his email address in the openjing posts in case his PM box filled up (very realistic in this game; JTR was huge, and I couldn't ever keep my PM Box empty for long).

KWhit 04-15-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1443160)
Cronin - clear out your PM box!



Thanks!


My bid is in.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1443135)
Yeah sorry about that DT, my emotions got the better of me. Antmeister read my posts and said he won't play ww with me anymore... so I guess I fudged that up.

I'm upset because people say, "Well why did you scan this person it was a bad scan" so of course I'm gonna be mad. I mean who is a good scan anyway? Aren't we all suspicious from the getgo? This is a legit question, who is a good scan because I'd like to know. I thought Alan was a good scan but apparently some seem to think it wasn't. I"m always suspicious of alan he plays the helpful villager when a wolf so that's why I scanned him. I sent sex slaves to Ironhead because he was being nitpicky with some stuff Alan was saying and I suspected him. I had Autumn scanned because at that point I thought he had the most votes for counsel (I was wrong Narcizo did) and I wanted to scan someone who would hold power.

I mean can someone tell me why these were bad? They make sense to me but apparently to the more experienced players they're bad. Every single game I fell like why even bother. Ugh... just frustrating.


I could quibble about the scan choices if I thought about it, but on the face it, I don't and never had any problems with your scan choices. I just think there were other ways you could have put your wealth to use. Let's face it, the scans ended up ordering were just byproducts of you trying to clear yourself, when that wasn't even necessary until now. You kept those scans in your hands, where if they had gone to other people, we could have confirmed the things that you say and the people you scanned. Now a whole bunch of people's allegiances hinge on your innocence or guilt.

I think it's ironic you could have been cleared almost for sure a while ago if you had NOT bid for ardent or any lawyer.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1443141)
FTR I'd be happy to be consul again if people want to give me another shot.



I actually considered that, but I thought the last experience would eman you wouldn't get voted in, and plus, it might be best to give others a shot in that liught first before coming back to you. I do feel better about you now than before, though, FWIW.

Chief Rum 04-15-2007 03:57 PM

All right, I'm officially gone. Good luck, everyone. I hope I'm alive when I return.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1436615)
Starting the game thread a day early; the next post will be the final draft of the rules, following that will be a list of the public roles. After that, I will consult random.org for the secret roles, and send out pms.


in case at some point my pm box gets full email st.cronin at gmail. please put werewolf in the subject.


From the first post.

Poli 04-15-2007 03:59 PM

Bump. Updated a bit...I'm not liking that DC decided to go against the plan. I'm also not liking DT...the fool doesn't listen to me.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 04:07 PM

listen to you? I havn't seen anything you've said directed at me. in fact I havn't seen much directed at me and/or responding to things that i've said, which has kinda driven me UTR. Why bother talking and putting forth ideas if no one is even acknowledging that I am

Poli 04-15-2007 04:08 PM

You could read what I've said, for starters.

st.cronin 04-15-2007 04:10 PM

My pm box now has room.

I am going through the thread now, compiling votes.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 04:14 PM

VOTE IRONHEAD CONSUL
VOTE KWHIT CONSUL

VOTE "MAKE THE BAD MAN FLY MOMMY! MAKE HIM FLY!!" (throw Neon_Chaos off the rock)

Poli 04-15-2007 04:17 PM

Interesting vote by DT for Ironhead. Interesting.

Abe Sargent 04-15-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1443145)
trust in me anxiety? not that I don't appreciate the vote of confidence...but that's suspicious. I mean I know i'm good, but that's unusual.

DC...you just hafta do what you think is right. I think alan was a good scan for sure...autumn I dunno


One of the factors for me is that you are really low on teh totem pole money wise.

st.cronin 04-15-2007 04:25 PM

Ok, if somebody wants to double check my work, this is what I have:

To execute:
10 - Neonus Chaosus - Ardent (2000), DaddyTorgo (2019), Anxiety (2120), Tyrith (2123), Narcizo (2143), Passacaglia (2147), Peregrine (2150), Dodgerchick (2151), Coffee Warlord (2167), Chief Rum (2181)

1 - Chubbus Chubbus - Grammaticus (2152)

For Consul:
3 Ironhead
3 Autumn
3 Passacaglia
3 KWhit
2 Daddytorgo
1 Dodgerchick
1 Barkeep
1 CoffeeWarlord
1 Grammaticus
1 Ardent

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 04:29 PM

AE's thread merged into this thread.

~BK, YFWWM

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 04:30 PM

Ok well I'm going to go for it.

Unvote Pass for consul
Vote BK for consul

Poli 04-15-2007 04:30 PM

!!!

What's that all about? We'll carry this conversation on elsewhere.

Poli 04-15-2007 04:31 PM

That said, I can't believe someone put a 1 star vote on this thread. I know I put the 5 star in.

Poli 04-15-2007 04:36 PM

I've got a feeling I'm about to be boxed.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 04:47 PM

I think barkeep merged the threads because I responded to something you had said in there. I actually debated whether to respond in that thread or just in here. But I figured you wouldn't see it in here, and I wanted to try to get you to come back in here and tell me what you meant ardent.

Poli 04-15-2007 04:48 PM

The only way I knew what you said, DT, was if I had been in here reading what's going on in the thread.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 04:49 PM

my vote for ironhead explained (versus my vote for me when I already have 2 votes for me too).

I know i'm innocent. And aside from thinking I'm a wolf, I like the tenor of Ironhead's analysis. I would have rather voted for CR as my other vote, but he pulled himself out of the running.

And I honestly think Kwhit/Pass would be just as good as Ironhead. Not a lot seperating the three of them

Poli 04-15-2007 04:50 PM

Not a fan at all of this. I was just trying to avoid this critical garbage that I post useless garbage. Now all my "useless" garbage of my own thread is here.

Meh.

Poli 04-15-2007 04:50 PM

I guess now I'm held to the req that I can't edit my post from my former thread. Bah.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1443193)
The only way I knew what you said, DT, was if I had been in here reading what's going on in the thread.


d'oh. Good point. Brain...not really...working...today...no coffee

Poli 04-15-2007 04:53 PM

I recognize this isn't a huge deal and I need to chill out. Be back later.

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1443195)
Not a fan at all of this. I was just trying to avoid this critical garbage that I post useless garbage. Now all my "useless" garbage of my own thread is here.

Meh.

I don't think you post any more useless garbage than most heavy posters.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1443179)
VOTE IRONHEAD CONSUL
VOTE KWHIT CONSUL

VOTE "MAKE THE BAD MAN FLY MOMMY! MAKE HIM FLY!!" (throw Neon_Chaos off the rock)


Nice song of fire and ice reference. That is exactly what I have been thinking of regarding the whole off the cliff thing.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 05:07 PM

Hey DC, the deadline is at 9pm today ;)

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1443200)
I don't think you post any more useless garbage than most heavy posters.


I know there was at least one good post over in your special thread.

DaddyTorgo 04-15-2007 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1443202)
Nice song of fire and ice reference. That is exactly what I have been thinking of regarding the whole off the cliff thing.



niiiiiice. I was wondering who was going to get that reference! figured someone would

KWhit 04-15-2007 05:42 PM

Vote to execute Neon Chaos

Vote Autumn Consul
Vote Coffee Warlord Consul

Peregrine 04-15-2007 06:11 PM

vote Kwhit for consul

vote Ironhead for consul

Peregrine 04-15-2007 06:19 PM

Also, I'm going to arrest Barkeep tonight. I've been looking back over all the trust/distrust lists that have been posted and he's someone that seems to keep coming up on the distrust side of several people. Narcizo has previously said he'll arrest Dodgerchick.

Tyrith 04-15-2007 06:33 PM

Any current vote count?

Ironhead 04-15-2007 06:34 PM

Vote Ironhead for Consul
Vote Autumn for Consul


Aside from me the other people that I would really want to put as Consul would be Chief Rum and Narcizo. I can't vote for Narcizo and Chief Rum requested that we not vote him as Consul. Autumn isn't 100% in my book but he has put forth some good analysis and strategies throughout the game so I feel alright about voting for him as Consul.

Vote Throw Chubby/Lonestargirl off the Rock

I feel that regardless of who gets lynched tonight we have a very good chance of turning up a wolf. Neon Chaos is a good choice to lynch, but given that I felt enough suspicion to throw Chubby off the rock last night I see no reason not to vote the same way today.

Note: After discussing the role of Balbus Senna with Chief Rum earlier I have changed my bid from Maximus Maximus to Balbus Senna.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 06:34 PM

So it looks like the vote will be against Dogeaus and Barkeepeus tomorrow.

st.cronin 04-15-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1443233)
Any current vote count?


5 Ironhead
5 Autumn
4 KWhit
2 Passacaglia
2 Barkeep
2 Daddytorgo
2 CoffeeWarlord
1 Dodgerchick
1 Grammaticus
1 Ardent

Tyrith 04-15-2007 06:38 PM

Don't want KWhit in power for the concentration reason I talked about previously, and with which CR agrees.

Going to try to put a little bit of separation here with two people I trust reasonably so far.

VOTE ELECT IRONHEAD
VOTE ELECT AUTUMN

path12 04-15-2007 07:09 PM

Sorry for not being around, I've been sick as a dog this weekend for some reason. Catching up on about 5-6 pages now.

Barkeep49 04-15-2007 07:11 PM

Peregrine: You'll notice that even CR has backed off some on me and Anxiety has placed enough trust in me to vote for me for consul. I think you could do better with tomorrow's arrest.

path12 04-15-2007 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1443098)
Just to review the status of the plan right now. Here is how I presented it. I have added in CAPS what has publically been stated about these bids.

Dodgeus Erchickus-- Bid for MACRO, the sword killer--MAY BE BIDDING FOR ARDENT INSTEAD. NEED TO CONFIRM.
Kayus Whitus-- Bid for ARDENT, lawyer--HASN"T SAID IF HE WILL PARTICPATE. IF DC BIDS ON ARDENT, HE WOULD NEED TO BID FOR MACRO THE SWORD KILLER.
Abeus Anxietus-- Bid for DURUS PIMPUS, sex slave dealer--HAS REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN SO FAR

Ironus Headus-- Bid for MAXIMUS MAXIMUS, legionnaire/BG--HAS POSTED BUT NOT SAID HE SUBMITTED A BID. WE NEED IRONHEAD TO GET IN ON THIS.
Passus Caglius-- Bid for VITUS AVIDUS, legionnaire/BG-- HAS PUT INA BID.

This should be all that is necessary to control the services. I would like to set up backup options, but I am uncertain of this because we start to get to more suspicious people (IMO). CoffeeWarlord and path12, though, have to be committed, because they are on the same level as Ironhead and Passacaglia. Wemust also lock down what they bid on.

Thusly, they should bid on:

Coffeus Yakus Warlordus-- Bid for MACRO, the sword killer== HAS PUT IN A BID. IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL RIGHT NOW, WITH THE TOP WEALTH ISSUES.
Pathus Twelvus-- Bid for ARDENT, lawyer-- HAS NOT POSTED IF HE PUT IN A BID, TO MY KNOWLEDGE (HASN'T POSTED AT ALL, I THINK).

Narcizo and I are in the next wealth group, so we should submit backup bids as well. I will bid for the sex slave dealer, if Narcizo will bid for one of the legionnaires/BGs.

NARCIZO AND I HAVE BOTH PUT IN OUR BIDS, MINE FOR THE SEX SLAVE, NARCIZO FOR THE BODYGUARD. PEREGRINE HAS PUT IN A BID FOR THE SEX SLAVES.

BARKEEP AND GRAMMATICUS HAVE OFFERED TO PUT IN BIDS, NO WORD YET, HOPEFULYL COMING.

AUTUMN HAS NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE YESTERDAY AND NOT KNOWN IF HE WILL PARTICIPATE.


Given all of the above, I would be primarily concerned (after the top tier issues) about making sure Ironhead states if he has gotten a bid in, and if Path12 and Autumn show up to put in backup bids.



If this is still valid when I get to the end of catching up I will put in my bid for Ardent as shown above. I see no problems with this plan. DC's blowup though makes me feel about 90% sure she's good.

path12 04-15-2007 07:33 PM

OK. Placing a bid for Ardent now. Votes:

THROW NEON OFF ROCK

ELECT AUTUMN CONSUL
ELECT KWHIT CONSUL

I think arresting DC is a mistake, but looks like that's a done deal. I also am glad the AE thread was merged, and I think he made some good points with his analysis.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1443186)
That said, I can't believe someone put a 1 star vote on this thread. I know I put the 5 star in.


How can you tell that someone put in one star? I just see the average.

Poli 04-15-2007 07:43 PM

I put a 5 star in. One vote doesn't show up...it takes two votes. The second vote made the average 3.

Autumn 04-15-2007 07:43 PM

Hi guys, as I said on Friday, I've been out of town, and am jumping in just before the deadline.

I like the plan for bidding for services. I'm not of high enough wealth to really help out, but I'll put in a backup bid for someone I suspect may not do as asked.

I'm trying to see wehre the vote situation is, but in order not to miss the deadline I'll vote first, change it later if necessary.

VOTE IRONUS HEADUS FOR CONSUL
VOTE AUTUMNUS LEAVUS FOR CONSUL

VOTE TO EXECUTE NEONUS CHAOSUS

Autumn 04-15-2007 07:44 PM

If someone could give me a brief recap on arrest suspects for tomorrow, and on the voting situation on the execution, I'd appreciate it.

Autumn 04-15-2007 07:55 PM

To explain my votes, since I think I'll be keeping them that way, Neonus Chaosus has just been on my slightly suspicious list for a while. I don't have any evidence, but I feel like we're so behidn we have to risk executing, and I have more of a feel on him than on Chubbus.

I saw that as of last count Ironhead and I were in the lead for consul. I have a good feeling about him, and about me obviously, so I thought I'd strengthen the vote count.

I'm not sure what's happening right now with arrests. But I've seen some of hte comments. I still trust Dodgerus Chickus. Everyone she's scanned as OK seems right on, including me of course, so I can't imagine she's a traitor. I don't know why she'd pass on useful info and no misleading info. I wouldn't arrest her, as we can use her wealth.

Pathus and Abeus Anxietus are on my slight suspicious list, so I woudln't mind seeing them arrested.

hoopsguy 04-15-2007 08:00 PM

And we have our first completed Monster Charm from Act IV.

Hydradon Hide:
+75 Health
+20% Less Damage from Beasts
Completion Bonus: 21 Armor
Can enhance all amor

Nice - I like the enhance armor a lot. It is going onto the Pristess's Leggings to bring the armor up to 73. That should distance it a great deal from the other items I'm seeing in shops.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1443280)
And we have our first completed Monster Charm from Act IV.

Hydradon Hide:
+75 Health
+20% Less Damage from Beasts
Completion Bonus: 21 Armor
Can enhance all amor

Nice - I like the enhance armor a lot. It is going onto the Pristess's Leggings to bring the armor up to 73. That should distance it a great deal from the other items I'm seeing in shops.


Uh, is this supposed to be in your dynasty thread? :confused:

Autumn 04-15-2007 08:03 PM

Man, I'm really behind on this game. I didn't even know about Monster Charms!

st.cronin 04-15-2007 08:04 PM

deadline

hoopsguys hydradon hide will not be counted

Poli 04-15-2007 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1443280)
And we have our first completed Monster Charm from Act IV.

Hydradon Hide:
+75 Health
+20% Less Damage from Beasts
Completion Bonus: 21 Armor
Can enhance all amor

Nice - I like the enhance armor a lot. It is going onto the Pristess's Leggings to bring the armor up to 73. That should distance it a great deal from the other items I'm seeing in shops.


Are you not entertained?

st.cronin 04-15-2007 08:07 PM

The results of today's lawsuits are (winner underlined):

Dodgus Erickus sues Ironsus Headus
Dodgus Erickus sues Tyrus Ithus
Dodgus Erickus sues Passus Caglius
Dodgus Erickus sues Coffeus Yakus Warlordus
Dodgus Erickus sues Narcizus Lispus
Dodgus Erickus sues Autumnus Leavus
Dodgus Erickus sues Chiefus Rumus
Dodgus Erickus sues Peregrinus Barbarus
Dodgus Erickus sues Grammus Atticus
Mustang Salleous sues Chubbus Chubbus
Mustang Salleous sues Abeus Anxietus
Mustang Salleous sues Autumnus Leavus
Mustang Salleous sues Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Mustang Salleous sues Kayus Whitus
Mustang Salleous sues Narcizus Lispus
GRAMMATICUS ATTICUS SUES Passus Caglius
GRAMMATICUS ATTICUS SUES Mustangus
GRAMMATICUS ATTICUS SUES Neonus Chaosus
GRAMMATICUS ATTICUS SUES Dodgerus Erchickus
GRAMMATICUS ATTICUS SUES Ironus Headus
Ardent sues KWhit
Ardent sues DodgerChick
Ardent sues Anxiety
Ardent sues Path12
Ardent sues Passacaglia
Ardent sues Ironhead
Ardent sues Coffee Warlord
Ardent sues Peregrine
Ardent sues Narcizo
Ardent sues Barkeep
Ardent sues Autumn
Ardent sues Chief Rum
Ardent sues Mustang
Ardent sues Chubby
Ardent sues Grammaticus
Ardent sues Tyrith
Ardent sues DaddyTorgo
Ardent sues Neon Chaos
PASSUS CAGLIUS SUES DODGERUS CHICKUS

st.cronin 04-15-2007 08:09 PM

pms coming, as always, if you do not receive a pm you were outbid for your service

Poli 04-15-2007 08:10 PM

I'll be hiring myself from now on, thankyouverymuch.

Poli 04-15-2007 08:16 PM

Ardent sues Everyone again.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1443290)
I'll be hiring myself from now on, thankyouverymuch.


Oh yeah, forgot about law suits.

Grammaticus Atticus sues the following:

Anxietus
Peregrinus
Tyrishus
Daddeus Torgus
Passeus
Patheus
Dogeus Erchicus
Neonus Chaosus
Ironus Headus
Chubbeus


Domestic Dispute is the charge

Poli 04-15-2007 08:20 PM

I'm suing for Roughing the Passer. 15 yards, automatic first down.

st.cronin 04-15-2007 08:21 PM

The votes for execution are as follows:

13 - Neon - Ardent (2000), DaddyTorgo (2019), Anxiety (2120), Tyrith (2123), Narcizo (2143), Passacaglia (2147), Peregrine (2150), Dodgerchick (2151), Coffee Warlord (2167), Chief Rum (2181), KWhit (2265), path12 (2276), Autumn (2279)

2 - Chubby - Grammaticus (2152), Ironhead (2269)

Neon Chaos is thusly hurled to his death.

Coffee Warlord 04-15-2007 08:22 PM

Fair warning: I do not have the sword-killer.

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1443297)
Fair warning: I do not have the sword-killer.


How do you know if we only get a PM when we are told that we DO have a service?

Poli 04-15-2007 08:23 PM

This just in: Neon Chaos was a good guy.

st.cronin 04-15-2007 08:24 PM

The following Senator has been murdered:

Peregrinus Barbarus, by poison


The new consuls of Rome are:

Ironus Headus
and Autumnus Leavus


The new Tribune of the Plebs is:

Narcizus Lispus

The best lawyer in Rome is:


Ardentus Enthusiastus

The second best lawyer in Rome is:

Narcizus Lispus

Coffee Warlord 04-15-2007 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus (Post 1443298)
How do you know if we only get a PM when we are told that we DO have a service?


'Cause I don't have any PM's?

st.cronin 04-15-2007 08:25 PM

Updated financial standings coming, may take a few minutes

Grammaticus 04-15-2007 08:26 PM

CW, are you assuming all of the PMs have been sent because st.cronin posted the lynch result?


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