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RainMaker 07-02-2025 05:28 PM

If they do, they aren't doing a good job using it. Their H-20 is supposedly way behind anything we've developed and the program appears to be a mess. It'd be a game changer if they got the tech, especially in regards to Taiwan.

Maybe they're bluffing and really have something amazing in the works though.

GrantDawg 07-02-2025 06:36 PM

Knowing the details and replicating the manufacturing is quite different, but my understanding is they are trying to making it more B-2+. Sort of long range multi role, with EW capabilities.

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bronconick 07-02-2025 06:56 PM

To my knowledge, we've never sold or given away bombers. Ever. The Brits had their own strategic bomber in the 60-80's, but otherwise it's been solely US and Soviet/Russian since the Cold War started.

GrantDawg 07-02-2025 07:12 PM

I would say we would never do it, but then this is Trump we are talking about. I wouldn't put anything past him.

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RainMaker 07-02-2025 07:31 PM

It's a bipartisan bill. Not a Trump thing yet.

flere-imsaho 07-03-2025 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3465659)
All I can think of is the B-21 is way ahead of schedule or they think China has all the information they could possibly need on it already.


Or, maybe the most obvious answer, which is that our country is being "governed" by a bunch of morons?

Edward64 07-05-2025 05:44 AM

The headlines seems positive ...

Hamas says it delivered 'positive response' on Gaza ceasefire plan
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Hamas says it delivered 'positive response' on US Gaza ceasefire plan
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The Palestinian armed group said on Friday night that it was "seriously ready to enter immediately into a round of negotiations", but it did not confirm whether it accepted the terms.

But when I read more, I can't imagine Trump/Bibi accepting below conditions.
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A senior Palestinian official told the BBC that Hamas had requested several changes, including a halt to a US-backed aid system
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... and a US guarantee that the war would not resume if talks on ending the war failed.

RainMaker 07-11-2025 04:08 PM

Israel killed another American.

archive.is

Edward64 07-12-2025 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466179)
Israel killed another American.

archive.is


Did you even read the article?

Here's a better source ...

Just a moment...

RainMaker 07-12-2025 10:32 AM

Yes, you posted an article summarizing the same thing. An American citizen was beaten to death by an Israeli settler mob.

Edward64 07-12-2025 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466208)
Yes, you posted an article summarizing the same thing. An American citizen was beaten to death by an Israeli settler mob.


If you think your link and mine says the same thing, specifically on your key point about American citizen, it just shows how we live in different worlds.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 11:49 AM

Why don't you explain since bith articles clearly state an American citizen was beaten to death by Israeli settlers. There's a dozen or so American news outlets reporting the same thing. Is this going to be some argument that his skin is too dark or name too Arab to be considered a "true American".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...k-death-tampa/
Redirect Notice
https://abcnews.go.com/International...y?id=123700222

Passacaglia 07-12-2025 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3466216)
Why don't you explain since bith articles clearly state an American citizen was beaten to death by Israeli settlers. There's a dozen or so American news outlets reporting the same thing. Is this going to be some argument that his skin is too dark or name too Arab to be considered a "true American".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...k-death-tampa/
Redirect Notice
https://abcnews.go.com/International...y?id=123700222


RM, when I follow your first link, I don't see anything about the victim being American either. It takes me to archive.is, though - maybe it's something weird with the link

RainMaker 07-12-2025 01:18 PM

Its a Haaretz article. The archive link is because it is paywalled. You can just search his name and come up with dozens of articles talking about it.

reuters.com

Passacaglia 07-12-2025 02:19 PM

Dude I'm just telling you what happens when you follow your link.

RainMaker 07-12-2025 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 3466229)
Dude I'm just telling you what happens when you follow your link.


Sorry, it was working for me. Maybe it's an issue with formatting on different browsers.

The same article can be found through a lot of other sites now if you search his name Sayafollah Musallet. Basically, an American was lynched in Israel. No clue what Edward is arguing about citizenship unless it's something where the guy doesn't pass his racial purity test.


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