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Abe Sargent 05-18-2009 12:12 AM

You need to find a better hobby than forum masturbation.

ntndeacon 05-18-2009 12:49 AM

I thought that was a clever and brilliant choice for Artist, Abe. I wish I had thought of it. There are several picks that will get knocked down at least on my ballot, because I have a disagreement about something regarding that pick...This wont be one of those.

Danny 05-18-2009 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2025348)
You need to find a better hobby than forum masturbation.


Like playing magic? :D

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 01:18 AM

The fuck? The forum just swallowed my entire first post.

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 01:20 AM

Okay, I had an older version in another window, but I'm going to have to finish the updates tomorrow.

Barkeep49 05-18-2009 06:04 AM

I lost the pick # with all of the Vatican discussion (which I think is legal BTW and is more kosher than Taiwan)

11.4 Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century

ntndeacon 05-18-2009 06:45 AM

that would be 11.4 Barkeep

Barkeep49 05-18-2009 06:47 AM

Thanks

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 07:56 AM

Hmmm, now that BK mentioned it, I'm going to have to review the Taiwan pick. I didn't even really pay attention to the country on that one, and no objection was made at the time. It does seem their situation is a little different than Scotland and PR, but is it different enough? Looking into it...

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 08:06 AM

speaking of that - what about james joyce and ireland?

*ducks*

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 08:12 AM

Joyce was born in Dublin.

Noop 05-18-2009 08:26 AM

I sent a PM to Larry about one of my picks so bare(panda bear) with me.

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 08:33 AM

I approved it, and I'll have an explanation as soon as the pick is made.

Abe Sargent 05-18-2009 08:34 AM

Republic of China, aka Taiwan, is its own country, yup.

Noop 05-18-2009 08:36 AM

11.5 Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th Century

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 08:40 AM

I approved Tubman for Canada because she actually did live there, helped her family escape to there, and helped up to 30,000 slaves escape there, and many Black Canadian communities developed as a result.

Alan T 05-18-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 2025491)
I approved Tubman for Canada because she actually did live there, helped her family escape to there, and helped up to 30,000 slaves escape there, and many Black Canadian communities developed as a result.


I can't fault this ruling at all. Based on the rules of the draft, much of her work can be tied to Canada. From a voter's perspective however, I'm not sure that this pick will receive that much weight to me however as most of her work was not in Canada. She only started helping bring slaves to Canada once the slave fugutive act was passed, and even then the majority of her work was still in the USA, including the time in the civil war where she helped serve the Union Army.

At this late in the draft however, I highly doubt anyone is counting on picks here to be the main weight in getting voters to go for them however. So probably not a big deal.

ntndeacon 05-18-2009 11:46 AM

Harriet Tubman was in the 20th century?

Danny 05-18-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2025746)
Harriet Tubman was in the 20th century?


She technically lived until then, but all of her contributions were earlier. The pick should still be allowed in 20th, but I think ithe questions surrounding the pick will be reflected in the voting

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 12:10 PM

She also moved her family back from Southern Ontario to Auburn, NY and lived out the last years of her life there, not in Canada. So the Canada connection is extremely tenuous. She "lived" there from 1855-1859 (although how much she was actually there is up to debate, her parents and family were there) according to what I could find on Wikipedia. And then lived from 1859-1913 in Auburn, NY.

Danny 05-18-2009 12:44 PM

Izulde is up right?

Coffee Warlord 05-18-2009 04:25 PM

Someone kick Izulde in the face.

Galaril 05-18-2009 04:26 PM

Wow we really are slacking now.

Abe Sargent 05-18-2009 04:37 PM

We went so fast over the weekend too.

Coffee Warlord 05-18-2009 04:42 PM

I'm halfway tempted to pick since I'm picking in a category he already has.

Danny 05-18-2009 04:47 PM

Did anyone PM him?

Danny 05-18-2009 04:48 PM

I did just now, just in case

Surtt 05-18-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2026050)
I'm halfway tempted to pick since I'm picking in a category he already has.


That might confuse people and we still would have to wait anyway.

Danny 05-18-2009 06:02 PM

I'm halfway tempted to just put in my final four picks

Izulde 05-18-2009 06:28 PM

Guh, sorry! I slept 15 hours :(

Izulde 05-18-2009 06:28 PM

Looking over board now.

Izulde 05-18-2009 06:36 PM

11.6 Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century

Arguably the most extensive of the French explorers, he explored the Great Lakes region, the Mississippi River and the Gulf of Mexico. His Louisiana expeditions are his most famous and his discoveries and explorations led to his claiming the entire Mississippi River basin for France.

Coffee Warlord 05-18-2009 07:50 PM

11.7 Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th

I give to you...the founder of the Austrian School of Economics. Tutored the crown prince of Austria in economics, chair of politicial economy in Vienna, and headed a commission to reform the Austrian monetary system.

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:08 PM

cool. I can't believe this guy is still here.

11.8 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th century

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:08 PM

sorry - was reinstalling windows there for the last lil while

Noop 05-18-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2026449)
cool. I can't believe this guy is still here.

11.8 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th century


I dispute this pick.

Danny 05-18-2009 09:12 PM

What's wrong with it?

Noop 05-18-2009 09:13 PM

It is tenuous at best.

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 2026453)
I dispute this pick.


based on what? the lists of people by category aren't there - did someone pick an austrian artist already?

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:14 PM

music is art

Danny 05-18-2009 09:14 PM

Because of the category?

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:14 PM

unquestionably

musical ARTISTS

Noop 05-18-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2026463)
music is art


Missing the joke? You said the same about my pick earlier, I am just kidding with you.

Danny 05-18-2009 09:15 PM

Music is art, there's a reason the grammy is given to best musical artist.

larrymcg421 05-18-2009 09:21 PM

The first post was getting too big for the forum, and that's why it kept disappearing. I'm gonna add a link to the category and drafter lists tonight.

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 2026469)
Missing the joke? You said the same about my pick earlier, I am just kidding with you.


lol yep - missing the joke!

You would have loved what I would have picked if USA artist + 20th century wasn't picked then!

Noop 05-18-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2026492)
lol yep - missing the joke!

You would have loved what I would have picked if USA artist + 20th century wasn't picked then!


Throw up since it likely can't be used.

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:27 PM

a certain King...

DaddyTorgo 05-18-2009 09:27 PM

of Pop

Danny 05-18-2009 09:30 PM

Justin Timberlake?


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