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Dr. Sak 02-27-2008 03:01 PM

The Devils had to have done this before.

Honolulu_Blue 02-27-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 1652784)
It will be interesting to see how teams approach the trade deadline this year...

As for the Wings ...

I'd look for the Wings to grab a depth defensemen (not quite Rob Blake, but a step above Cory Cross). They don't want to be in a position where guys like Lilja and Quincey are forced into serious minutes due to injuries, like last year when Kronwall and Schneider went down. They may also look for a depth forward (Fedorov?).


I reckon Brad Stuart fits nicely in the above Cory Cross and not quite Rob Blake range.

Mr. Holland, I am still awaiting your call to become a member of the Braintrust.

Galaxy 02-27-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1670375)
Sens fire John Paddock.

From coaching the all-star game to fired, in less than a month. Has anyone ever managed that before, in any sport?


Don't soccer clubs do this quite often?

johnnyshaka 02-27-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1670375)
Sens fire John Paddock.

From coaching the all-star game to fired, in less than a month. Has anyone ever managed that before, in any sport?


That's funny...yet the Leafs don't have the balls to fire Maurice...what gives??

Maple Leafs 02-27-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 1670418)
That's funny...yet the Leafs don't have the balls to fire Maurice...what gives??

No point. He'll be gone as soon as the new GM comes in. And besides, a new guy might coax a few extra wins out of the team and that's not what we need right now.

johnnyshaka 02-27-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1670424)
No point. He'll be gone as soon as the new GM comes in. And besides, a new guy might coax a few extra wins out of the team and that's not what we need right now.


They waited too long to fire Junior and they've done the same with Maurice. The Leafs have been disinterested since before Christmas and whether that is Maurice's fault or not, he should've been canned simply because every Leaf has a no-trade clause and they aren't moving...proving yet again why Junior should've been done prior to this season...at the very least!!

Pyser 02-27-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16 (Post 1670384)
The Devils had to have done this before.


we wait until the last possible moment, thank you very much

Galaxy 02-27-2008 07:58 PM

Bernier scored two goals (first two of the game in the first period) and one assist in his day-view as a Sabre. Still one more period to go.

Maple Leafs 02-27-2008 08:06 PM

Including tonight, Leafs sort-of prospect Jeremy Williams has played three games, spread over three seasons, and has scored three goals.

That makes him the only player in NHL history with the at least three games in the NHL who has scored in every game he's ever played. You can probably win a few bar bets with that trivia question, at least until the next Leafs game.

Suburban Rhythm 02-27-2008 08:19 PM

Marian Freaking Hossa next to Crosby!!!!!! :D

The Pens are only missing that nasty 3rd line to play against in the playoffs... oh wait, reports of Gary Roberts demise are premature, he skates today alongside Crosby before practice.

Ok, yeah, they are missing more, like a true #1 pairing D to play with Gonchar...and a settled goaltending position between Conklin and Fleury...but they had to vault themselves to, or close to, the top of the East.

Now they just need to hope every series in the West goes 7 games, each into multiple OTs, so that the winner of the West is demolished by the time they arrive in the finals.

Galaxy 02-27-2008 08:47 PM

What a crazy game! Buffalo-Nashville. It was like a bar brawl.

NoSkillz 02-28-2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1670769)
What a crazy game! Buffalo-Nashville. It was like a bar brawl.


I was there live...great atmosphere, fun game, lots of fights, goals and even a penalty shot.

Bernier was a stud on day one. Instant crowd favourite in Buffalo.

Galaxy 02-28-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NoSkillz (Post 1670926)
I was there live...great atmosphere, fun game, lots of fights, goals and even a penalty shot.

Bernier was a stud on day one. Instant crowd favourite in Buffalo.


He was ready to fight at the end. But the Predator guy said no. He looks like he's re-engerized Roy and Vanek. Giving them a big, power player with an offensive game should really open that line up. I wonder how Vanek will be used now.

Bernier seems like he just wants to play hockey and have fun. I think he'll fit well with this team. As much crap as Reiger gets (and I think the higher-ups do handcuff him), he has a great nose for finding talent that fly under the radar or washout. I can't stand the Sabres forum. People don't seem to get the idea of a "salary cap" and being selective in who you have to keep.

Pyser 02-28-2008 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 1670732)

Now they just need to hope every series in the West goes 7 games, each into multiple OTs, so that the winner of the West is demolished by the time they arrive in the finals.


quoted for posterity.

Dr. Sak 02-28-2008 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 1670732)
Marian Freaking Hossa next to Crosby!!!!!! :D

The Pens are only missing that nasty 3rd line to play against in the playoffs... oh wait, reports of Gary Roberts demise are premature, he skates today alongside Crosby before practice.

Ok, yeah, they are missing more, like a true #1 pairing D to play with Gonchar...and a settled goaltending position between Conklin and Fleury...but they had to vault themselves to, or close to, the top of the East.


Are you surprised that Therrien is pulling Malone off of Malkin's line to put him on with Staal and Hossa?

I agree with you on their defense, they have plenty of offensive defensemen with Whitney, Gonchar, and Letang, but no real shut down defensive guy.

Honolulu_Blue 02-28-2008 08:14 AM

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230739&hubname=nhl

Panthers' grant Kilger leave of absence

SUNRISE, Fla. - Chad Kilger, acquired by Florida in a trade with Toronto, was granted a leave of absence by the Panthers on Wednesday due to personal reasons.

Just one day after Kilger was sent to the Panthers by the Maple Leafs, the forward sat out when Florida faced his former team at home.

Kilger flew back to Toronto after meeting with Jacques Martin, the Panthers coach and general manager, and team officials said it wasn't known when he would return.

Martin was expected to talk about Kilger's situation on Thursday. Kilger missed five games earlier this season after being granted a leave of absence by the Maple Leafs.

Kilger, acquired just before the NHL trade deadline for a third-round draft pick, had 10 goals and seven assists in 53 games with Toronto.

---------------------------------

A quick update on this story. Reports now indicate that Kilger has returned to Toronto and is currently negotiating a retroactive no trade clause with Cliff Fletcher. Early indications are that the Leafs will reach an agreement with Kilger, the trade with Florida will be undone with Kilger returning to the Leafs and the Panthers getting their 3rd round pick back, and then Kilger will refuse to waive the clause.

I will keep everyone posted.

Thanks.

MikeVic 02-28-2008 09:35 AM

Really H_B? Or are you just messing around with the no-trade clause stuff? I really don't know anymore.

Honolulu_Blue 02-28-2008 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1671098)
Really H_B? Or are you just messing around with the no-trade clause stuff? I really don't know anymore.


I am just messing around with the no-trade clause stuff, because it makes me laugh almost as much as that picture of that Maple Leaf kid giving Andrea Lilja the finger. Almost...

MikeVic 02-28-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 1671120)
I am just messing around with the no-trade clause stuff, because it makes me laugh almost as much as that picture of that Maple Leaf kid giving Andrea Lilja the finger. Almost...


It was believable...

Suburban Rhythm 02-28-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser (Post 1670948)
quoted for posterity.


Anthony Smith is guaranteeing a Pens trip to the Finals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsak16 (Post 1670991)
Are you surprised that Therrien is pulling Malone off of Malkin's line to put him on with Staal and Hossa?

I agree with you on their defense, they have plenty of offensive defensemen with Whitney, Gonchar, and Letang, but no real shut down defensive guy.


Um, the names Hal Gill and Rob Scuderi obviously mean nothing to you! ;)

Seriously, and this probably through my black and gold glasses, but Gonchar has been solid in his own end, especially during this recent stretch since Crosby's been out. And Scuderi (now hurt) has played out of his cranium (my Myron Cope reference in a time of mouring). He should be, at best, on a 2nd pairining, probably 3rd pairing. He's not going to get confused with Pronger wrecking people, or Lidstrom position-wise, but he's been the biggest surprise in the lineup this season.

As far as Therrien moving Malone...no not surprised at all. Up until Crosby's injury, he had been changing lines on the fly during the game. The fact that line lasted 18 games or something is amazing to me.

Dr. Sak 02-28-2008 08:05 PM

There should be a rule against leaving your shield on when you fight.

Fidatelo 02-28-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16 (Post 1671946)
There should be a rule against leaving your shield on when you fight.


I used to try that line with my girlfriends, but it never worked.

Dr. Sak 02-28-2008 08:17 PM

Hossa left the game in the first period in his first game with the Pens. Early reports say knee injury...mcl sprain.

Chief Rum 02-28-2008 10:35 PM

All right, almost March 1. Isn't time for Lou to fire his coach and take the Devils' reins to their usual second round playoff loss?

Oh, he's still coaching? Well, then, he's ahead of the game. :)

Incidentally, Barry Melrose said on a local radio show today that he feels the Ducks (as now composed) are still the best in the West, and the team to beat, despite current records (Wings way ahead, Stars a few points ahead). He also said he feels they are better than last year's team.

Hard to argue with the second part actually. Teemu and Niedermayer are fresher, and Getzlaf and Perry have gone from young potential to All Stars. Plus, they added Bertuzzi (replaces Penner) and Schneider.

I still think it's going to be a brutally competitive playoffs in the Western Conference (like the NBA).

Pyser 02-29-2008 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1672071)
All right, almost March 1. Isn't time for Lou to fire his coach and take the Devils' reins to their usual second round playoff loss?

Oh, he's still coaching? Well, then, he's ahead of the game. :)


sutter will at least last the year

i feel pretty good about the devils right now, but i dont want them to win the #1 seed.

Honolulu_Blue 02-29-2008 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1672071)
Incidentally, Barry Melrose said on a local radio show today that he feels the Ducks (as now composed) are still the best in the West, and the team to beat, despite current records (Wings way ahead, Stars a few points ahead). He also said he feels they are better than last year's team.

Hard to argue with the second part actually. Teemu and Niedermayer are fresher, and Getzlaf and Perry have gone from young potential to All Stars. Plus, they added Bertuzzi (replaces Penner) and Schneider.

I still think it's going to be a brutally competitive playoffs in the Western Conference (like the NBA).


Way to go out on a limb there, Barry...

Dr. Sak 02-29-2008 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 1672221)
Way to go out on a limb there, Barry...


Getting an endorsement from Barry Melrose is like getting one from Beano Cook...the kiss of death. Nice knowing you Ducks.

Honolulu_Blue 02-29-2008 08:02 AM

I just read this article in the New York times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/sports/hockey/29hockey.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

It's about Russia luring NHL stars back home and how Russian leagues are slowly becoming more competitive with the NHL. The fact that the poster boy for this return of NHL stars it the Motherland is Yashin makes the whole thing pretty laughable. The reasons the Times considers for Yashin's return to Russia are him being bitter about his NHL experience, after getting bought out by the Islanders, or a sense of Russian pride. Uh, yeah, right. Let me throw out one other possibility: he sucks and no one in the NHL was willing to pay him anything close to what he was asking for because he, well, sucks. He's not a hard worker or, by all accounts, are great teammate. The other "stars" mentioned in the article are the ancient, slow, and injury-riddled Darius Kasparitis and middling NHLers like Oleg Tverdosky and Oleg Petrov. Yeah, I'd but THAT for a $1.

Apparently Fetisov, now the head of Russia's national sports agency, is bitter about Russians going to the NHL. To the Times' credit, they point out the hypocrisy by noting that Fetisov was one of the first Russians to make the leap to the NHL. I mean, seriously Fetisov. You started the trend. Folks talked glowingly about all the abuse he suffered during his early years in the NHL and how hard it was for him to blaze the trial for other Russians to make their way to the NHL, to freedom, and fat loots. And now he's going to be bitter? STFU, Fetisov.

Logan 02-29-2008 08:46 AM

Wow, Carol Alt is married to Yashin? She used to be married to Ron Greschner.

Chief Rum 02-29-2008 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16 (Post 1672242)
Getting an endorsement from Barry Melrose is like getting one from Beano Cook...the kiss of death. Nice knowing you Ducks.


Heh...we'll see. If it does, I might fly to Bristol and firebomb his house. :)

Galaxy 03-01-2008 10:33 AM

Sabres look like crap last night. This team has the talent, they just seem to make a lot of dumb plays and don't show up every night.

Maple Leafs 03-01-2008 02:38 PM

Did NHL.com always have those bush league, fake Windows interface type banner ads all over it? Or is that recent?

Wolfpack 03-01-2008 08:59 PM

Carolina wishes to thank a pair of teams tonight. First, a thank you to Toronto for putting down the Caps tonight. Secondly, a hearty thanks to Chicago for Tuomo Ruutu and especially Sergei Samsonov. Ruutu had a goal and an assist while Samsonov bagged a pair of goals in a 5-1 rout of Tampa. Samsonov has tallied 11 goals since coming to Carolina, five coming on this homestand that Carolina went 4-1-1 on.

Carolina's now up five on Washington but the Caps still hold two games in hand.

johnnyshaka 03-04-2008 01:19 AM

Sorry, DD, Svatos and Smyth are done for the season.

Granted, all hope is not lost, as they played inspired hockey over the last month without their first line. Can they do it again?

Vince 03-04-2008 02:20 AM

I know that Campbell is not the be-all, end-all, but damned if this wasn't exciting:


Draft Dodger 03-04-2008 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 1674746)
Sorry, DD, Svatos and Smyth are done for the season.

Granted, all hope is not lost, as they played inspired hockey over the last month without their first line. Can they do it again?


well, I don't think Smyth is officially done for the year. No shocker on Svatos - he has yet to play a full NHL season. His career high is 66 games. We can win without both, IMO, but can't really absorb too many more injuries up front.

Galaxy 03-04-2008 10:59 AM

Interesting article:

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/304287

Dr. Sak 03-04-2008 11:48 AM

Crosby is back tonight

Suburban Rhythm 03-04-2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsak16 (Post 1675078)
Crosby is back tonight


All they did while he was out...was go 11-6-4, and move into first in the East.

Also, glad you are here breaking the Pens news bsak. I am never on at work anymore...damn man, holding me down.

Draft Dodger 03-04-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince (Post 1674765)
I know that Campbell is not the be-all, end-all, but damned if this wasn't exciting:


that was a great move by Campbell and some terrific passing to set it up...
but what exactly was Price doing there? That looked awful.

Galaxy 03-04-2008 07:01 PM

Great effort by Campbell to keep himself onside.

Galaxy 03-04-2008 07:23 PM

Man, I cannot stand Versus.

Dr. Sak 03-04-2008 07:33 PM

It was annoying to hear that NHLPA guy in the booth for so long. I think this is the D team as far as announcing crews go.

Galaxy 03-04-2008 07:57 PM

And the Sidney Crosby lovefest every game (even when he isn't playing that game) annoys the hell out of me.

1) Call the damn game.

2) Show some passion in calling it.

Dr. Sak 03-04-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1675481)
And the Sidney Crosby lovefest every game (even when he isn't playing that game) annoys the hell out of me.


I can finally say I totally agree with a Sabers fan.

Galaxy 03-04-2008 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsak16 (Post 1675484)
I can finally say I totally agree with a Sabers fan.


Just did it again. You a Flyers or Pens fan?

Dr. Sak 03-04-2008 08:20 PM

Flyers....but I live near Pittsburgh so I get to hear everyone fawn all over Crosby.

Galaxy 03-04-2008 08:20 PM

How many times Crosby is mentioned during an entire game on VS would make for a terrific drinking game.

bbor 03-04-2008 08:58 PM

Hey Pumpy

Toronto announcers just called White a good defenceman....care to cooment?

Pumpy Tudors 03-04-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor (Post 1675538)
Hey Pumpy

Toronto announcers just called White a good defenceman....care to cooment?

Yeah, I heard that shit. Funny how they said that when his great defensive play was only necessary to cover up for a turnover that he made himself! He doesn't have to go back and sweep the puck off anybody's stick if he doesn't give the puck away to begin with. Way to go, bundle dick.

I was getting pretty tired of the Toronto commentators arguing over whether Johnny Oduya hit one of the Leafs from behind, too. I mean, if they want to disagree about it, fine, but they continued to argue about it for a full five minutes after it happened. It was like one of the commentators (the one who thought Oduya committed a penalty) wanted to blame the loss on a bad non-call. Could it perhaps have been related to the Leafs being unable to put the puck into the net on one end and being in slow motion on the other end? No? It was just the non-penalty, right?

I only saw the third period of the game, but from the highlights, I guess Brodeur should've gotten the first star. If the Devils had played a competent team, though, Brodeur gives up 3 goals in the third period alone. He put himself out of position, he was falling down behind the net, he was turning the puck over, and so forth. The only reason the Devils were able to hold a lead was because the Leafs couldn't shoot a puck into Lake Ontario if you put them on a boat and sailed them halfway out there.

But, uh, yeah. I wanted to slap the guy who said that Colin White was good.


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