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sterlingice 06-11-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 2047554)
A lot of talk about the Yankees and Red Sox on here....Feels like I turned on ESPN.


:D

SI

sterlingice 06-11-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2047575)
What a fuckin joke. I don't know what you hear down in Pennsylvania via Idaho via Michigan, but the pressure put on these guys by the media and fans is non-existent. A team like the Yankees is the perfect place for one of these kids to come up. A guy like Hughes gets to come up last year and be the 5th starter on a rotation anchored by guys making a combined $100 million. A hitter gets to come in, bat 7th or 8th, and get protected by the likes of Matsui, Posada, Swisher, Nady, etc and is on a team where the fans die for an excuse to boo the best hitter of the generation.

How is that anywhere near the pressure faced by a kid who comes up during a team's continued shitty run and is expected to be the savior of the franchise? Think Evan Longoria had it easy just because it was Tampa? Kazmir? Think it was easy for Alex Gordon to come up? You really think the pressure Austin Jackson will face next year even remotely approaches what Strasburg will be going through in Washington?


Don't worry, the moment Alex Gordon was drafted, he wasn't immediately anointed the savior of the franchise and compared to George Brett. Oh wait, he did and was.

But, as Karlifornia pointed out, it wasn't plastered all over ESPN ;)

SI

Logan 06-11-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2047580)
yes I do


Guess you win.

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-11-2009 03:51 PM

You all do realize you don't have to watch ESPN, right? I mean, I don't think I signed a contract or anything.

lungs 06-11-2009 03:56 PM

A little birdie tells me the Brewers are close to acquiring a starting pitcher.

sterlingice 06-11-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 2047586)
A little birdie tells me the Brewers are close to acquiring a starting pitcher.


I haven't seen anything on mlbtraderumors- any hints?

SI

Logan 06-11-2009 04:05 PM

Was Wang finally put on waivers? :)

lungs 06-11-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2047590)
I haven't seen anything on mlbtraderumors- any hints?

SI


It's from some folks at brewerfan.net that have "connections." A lot more reliable than your usual web banter.

They are hesitant to name names at this point but another person in the know said Erik Bedard and Cliff Lee have definitely been discussed recently.

Not surprising considering the draft just finished and teams know where their minor league depth with stand.

It may not happen today, but very soon we'll probably be hearing peeps from the actual media.

lordscarlet 06-11-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2047561)
Yes, Royals time!


:lol:

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2047585)
You all do realize you don't have to watch ESPN, right? I mean, I don't think I signed a contract or anything.


I, for one, don't even receive ESPN.

Jas_lov 06-11-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2047592)
Was Wang finally put on waivers? :)


No. Reports are Wang is still in the rotation and he will start Wednesday vs. the Nationals.

RomaGoth 06-11-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2047592)
Was Wang finally put on waivers? :)


:lol:

lungs 06-11-2009 05:00 PM

Hmm... JJ Hardy wasn't used today in a key situation off the bench....

Suspicious.

sterlingice 06-11-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 2047622)
I, for one, don't even receive ESPN.


Another shameless plug for MLB Network on my part. I don't even bother with ESPN for baseball any more :)

(tho I'm sure that's not what you're getting at)

SI

DaddyTorgo 06-11-2009 06:54 PM

LOL

I believe that's twice in two games that Swisher has made bonehead baserunning blunders and gotten doubled-off to kill a Yankee threat (it was him last night right?)

DaddyTorgo 06-11-2009 06:56 PM

BIGGGGGGGGGGGG PAPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiii

- that's 3 HR's in the last 5 games for him. maybe he's still got a lil left in the tank.

sterlingice 06-11-2009 07:33 PM

Ok, times are tough for ticket sales but I just received an email from the Astros: Buy any of the third deck tickets for an adult and get 2 free for kids.

That's cool to build a younger base but I'm sure they're hurting a lot of ticket sales tho only because they aren't selling any- that sort of thing.

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-11-2009 08:21 PM

Looks like the old Zack is back tonight. 1 run and 5 hits through 7 innings. Chance to win a series, which has obviously not happened for KC of late.

BishopMVP 06-11-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 2047659)
Hmm... JJ Hardy wasn't used today in a key situation off the bench....

Suspicious.

We'll trade you Brad Penny+ a prospect for JJ Hardy... :D
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Originally Posted by someone
The Red Sox and Yankees always seem to overvalue their propects.

That is true of NY the past couple years and was true of the RS in the 1990's, it hasn't been true. This Santana discussion reminds me, if only we had a big long discussion about it at the time and could see how people felt these prospects ranked. Oh wait, sox soon to sign Santana? - Front Office Football Central

Allegedly, Lester/Lowrie/Masterson/Crisp/Kalish was on the table from the Red Sox and the Yankees were offering Hughes or Kennedy, but not both, the Mets eventually got him with Carlos Gomez+3 worse pitching prospects and people (other than Atocep) were arguing the Red Sox proposal was light. Add that to the Beckett trade, the Gagne trade, and all the prospects that have come up and played roles on the Red Sox and if anything RS prospects have been undervalued the past few years.

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-11-2009 08:43 PM

LOL.....two errors by the Royals after Greinke exits and we have a tied game. Unbelievable.

DaddyTorgo 06-11-2009 08:48 PM

except for Manny Delcarmen - he fucking sucks. as someone else just put it - he's anti-clutch.

what a fucking meatball he just threw to a-roid

RedKingGold 06-11-2009 09:01 PM

RRRRRAAAAAAUUUUUUULLLLLLL!!!!!!

sterlingice 06-11-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 2047774)
LOL.....two errors by the Royals after Greinke exits and we have a tied game. Unbelievable.


And he gets charged the earned runs because you can't assume the double play even tho competent defense would have turned it. :(

SI

RedKingGold 06-11-2009 09:11 PM

Who are the other current candidates for NL MVP (if the season ended today)?

Ibanez has to be up there.

Ksyrup 06-11-2009 10:07 PM

Going back to my comments earlier this week about the Tigers offense and Ervin Santana...Santana got hit pretty good by a good TB offense. He'll probably come around sooner or later, but the Tigers have some serious problems. They made Contreras look good on Monday, too. Heard they were in on Spillbourghs. Probably a good idea. In fact, if they can swing a deal for him and Huson Street, that would be ideal.

Chief Rum 06-11-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 2047833)
Going back to my comments earlier this week about the Tigers offense and Ervin Santana...Santana got hit pretty good by a good TB offense. He'll probably come around sooner or later, but the Tigers have some serious problems. They made Contreras look good on Monday, too. Heard they were in on Spillbourghs. Probably a good idea. In fact, if they can swing a deal for him and Huson Street, that would be ideal.


Yeah, but the Rays are the #1 offense in the AL, aren't they? They also beat up on Lackey yesterday.

DaddyTorgo 06-11-2009 10:12 PM

yay!!! go sox!!

MrDNA 06-11-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2047780)
RRRRRAAAAAAUUUUUUULLLLLLL!!!!!!


To translate for the non-Phillies fans, Ibanez hits a three run dinger in the 10th to win the series for the Fightin' Phils. I can't believe how good this guy has been.

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-11-2009 10:20 PM

Ibanez really juiced that ball out of the park.

EagleFan 06-11-2009 10:22 PM

Sweet, 7-3 road trip.

Who would have guessed at the beginning of the season that 2 of the 3 starters in the Red Sox series would be Happ and Bastardo (and that they would be a combined 6-0 and with an ERA under 3).

dawgfan 06-12-2009 12:32 AM

Just wanted to make note, since it might be getting overlooked, that Russell Branyan has had a hell of a season so far, boasting a .317/.413/.614 line so far. Chances are those numbers will decrease a bit as it seems likely his BABIP rate of .385 will regress over the course of the season, but his power and patience should stick.

Part of his breakout is the fact that he's hit very well against lefties this year after looking terrible against them in the past. Whether that can continue or is just small sample size luck, who knows.

But combine his great hitting with defensive metrics showing him to be an average to above average first baseman defensively, and you've got a guy that ought to be getting some attention for an All-Star berth, but for the fact that Youkilis and Teixeira are also having great years and have much better track records...

SackAttack 06-12-2009 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2047782)
And he gets charged the earned runs because you can't assume the double play even tho competent defense would have turned it. :(

SI


No mention of the Run Birded In?

sterlingice 06-12-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 2047995)
No mention of the Run Birded In?


To be fair, Coco throws like a five year old girl so he wasn't throwing out your grandmother rounding third. But the birds just add another level of comical tragedy to that game.

SI

Butter 06-12-2009 08:33 AM

I bet Kauffmann is SRO for this whole weekend Reds-Royals series coming up.

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 08:34 AM

If that game was in Toronto, Choo would have been arrested.

sterlingice 06-12-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 2048054)
I bet Kauffmann is SRO for this whole weekend Reds-Royals series coming up.


I'm sure the Royals will get 40K- that's good right? ("for the entire series" "oh.")

SI

Logan 06-12-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2047773)
We'll trade you Brad Penny+ a prospect for JJ Hardy... :DThat is true of NY the past couple years and was true of the RS in the 1990's, it hasn't been true. This Santana discussion reminds me, if only we had a big long discussion about it at the time and could see how people felt these prospects ranked. Oh wait, sox soon to sign Santana? - Front Office Football Central


HA really got bitched around in that thread. Dontrelle Willis dominant? Really?

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2047847)
Ibanez really juiced that ball out of the park.


I give him plenty of credit, that pitch was about 3 inches HiGHer than the dirt.

sterlingice 06-12-2009 08:59 AM

Ah, Poznanski. If we didn't have such a good writer covering the beat, this would be even more unbearable. Keep in mind, this is a blog entry so the grammar is a little suspect

Seeing Seagulls by the Lakeshore* » Joe Posnanski

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Originally Posted by Poz!
Seeing Seagulls by the Lakeshore*

The Kansas City Royals lost Thursday night when the game-winning hit bounced off a seagull.

Now, that sentence — as marvelously constructed as it may be — is a bit misleading. The Royals were going to lose anyway Thursday night. They really lost when, up two-runs in the eighth, they committed two errors on what looked like a double-play grounder to first and when closer Joakim Soria left a curveball up to Cleveland’s Jhonny Peralta. They really lost when reliever Kyle Farnsworth … well, do you really need to say more than that? Kyle Farnsworth is an absolutely remarkable pitcher. For the last month and a half, he has been placed into low-pressure situations and he has been virtually unhittable. League hit .148 against him! Strikeout to walk ratio of 17-2! Zero earned runs!

As soon as the Royals put him into the game on Thursday — tie score, top of the 10th inning — he immediately turned back into Kyle Farnsworth.* A leadoff seeing-eye single. A walk. A line drive hit up the middle that bounced off a seagull and skipped past centerfielder Coco Crisp. Ballgame.

No, it wouldn’t have mattered — we all know Coco isn’t throwing anyone out at the plate.

But it does matter. Because, bottom line, the top-line sentence is accurate. The Royals lost when a ball hit a seagull. And it’s just last latest addition to the list of remarkable things I have had the chance to witness since arriving in Kansas City thirteen years ago.

I have seen a manager, in an effort to inspire his team, jump into a shower with his clothes on. I have seen another manager, in an effort to inspire his team, promise to smile more. That manager also believed his team had too many milk-drinkers, not enough tequila drinkers. I have seen two managers quit in the middle of the season and a third manager get told he was fired by the reporters who covered the team. I have seen a parade of pitching coaches fired, a handful of hitting coaches fired, a couple of bullpen coaches let go and numerous bench coaches reassigned.

I have seen a centerfielder race back to the wall, set himself, time his leap and … watch the ball land 10 feet in front of him on the warning track. The ball then bounced over his head for a ground-rule double — the umpires were so confused they initially called it a home run. The call was righted eventually but one of my favorite moments as a Royals observer was watching the Royals’ manager race out to argue the call. I could only imagine the exchange.

Manager: That ball landed on the warning track. How could you miss that?
Umpire: Because your centerfielder climbed the wall?
Manager: Uh, good point. Listen, I’ll go back to the dugout. You guys work it out.

Mine eyes have seen the glory of a player named Chip Ambres, who played in only 53 games with Kansas City, but managed in that short period of time to make team history TWICE. Ambres made his first appearance for the Royals on July 20. Eight days later, on July 28, he hit his first big league home run. The Royals lost that game to Tampa 10-5 … and that was the first loss in what would become a 19-game losing streak.

Historic moment No. 1 happened on August 9th, when the Royals were leading Cleveland 7-2 going into the ninth inning. Mike MacDougal was the Royals closer then — or at least that’s what they called him — and he promptly gave up a double to Casey Blake, a double to Grady Sizemore, a single to Coco Crisp (Coco has seen the Kansas City thing from both sides now). That made it 7-4. After a strikeout, MacDougal gave up ANOTHER double to Travis Hafner. Victor Martinez singled. It was 7-5.

And then the real fun began. Ronnie Belliard popped up to short … but Angel Berroa dropped it. The Royals did get an out there on a play at second. So it was 7-6, but there were two outs.

And that’s when Jeff Liefer lifted a fly ball to Chip Ambres in left field. Anyone who heard the call by Royals announcer Denny Matthews will never forget it: “There’s a fly ball to left field and … he dropped it. Yes he did.” There was no doubt in Denny’s voice at all. The Indians ended up scoring 11 runs in the inning and winning the game.* That, incidentally, was lost No. 11 in a row for the Royals.

*Another highlight of that inning was when right fielder Emil Brown tried to kick the ball back into the infield. He was not quite successful.

Later, in historic moment No. 2 — just mentioned this the other day — Ambres (playing center) and left-fielder Terrence Long converged on a fly ball and then, each thinking the other would make the play, began jogging toward the dugout. The ball plopped down behind them. I remember going into the radio booth to ask Denny if he had ever seen anything like that before. He considered the question for a moment. And then he said: “Nope.”

Other stuff I’ve seen: I saw the Royals lose once when a pitcher, attempting to start an inning-ending double play, slipped on the rosin bag and threw the ball into centerfield. … I saw the Royals begin a game batting out of order. I mean, batting out of order is one thing, but the FIRST BATTER was out of order? … I saw a Royals baserunner literally fall off of first base on a pickoff attempt. He got back to the bag safely and then, almost in slow motion, he just fell off the base and was tagged out. … I saw the Royals lose a game when, with the bases loaded, a batter hit a ball back to Mike MacDougal. He threw home — literally. The ball had to be at least 5 feet over the catcher’s head. I remember it being 10 feet high. … I saw the Royals release a pitcher IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME … I saw a Royals prospect, with two runners in scoring position, look so frightened that, even though the opposing pitcher threw three batting practice fastballs right over the heart of the plate, he never even thought about swinging. … I saw the Royals try out a professional softball pitcher … I saw a Royals pitcher get hurt during spring training SLIDING practice (you might recall, the Royals are an American League club) … I saw Esteban German get hit in the face with a fly ball because (1) he was playing centerfield, (2) he’s not a centerfielder, (3) the sun was out and (4) he was not wearing his sunglasses. Fortunately, Esty was wearing his sunglasses on the flight home after the game so no one could see his shiner … I saw Tony Pena lose a ball in the sun because he wasn’t wearing sunglasses. After the game, Pena explained that he had ordered his sunglasses but “they had not come in yet.” … I saw Royals pitcher Miguel Asencio throw 16 consecutive balls to start off his major league career. … I saw the Royals draft the first high school pitcher who ever officially threw 100 mph. Apparently, nobody noticed that he did not throw strikes.

Of course, there’s the Ken Harvey oeuvre. Once, he lost a battle with a tarp. Once, as the cut-off man, he turned his back on an outfield throw and got hit in the back. Once he threw a baseball into his own pitcher’s face.*

*Harvey, you will note, was the Royals All-Star in 2004. He then played in 12 games for the Royals in 2005 and he hasn’t played a big league game since. A little while ago, he was released by the Kansas City T-Bones Independent league team.

There was the time a Royals pitcher complained because he could not get any no-decisions. … There was the time the Royals decided to call up a pitcher named Eduardo Villacis to pitch at Yankee Stadium because … well, no one knew. No one on the team had ever even heard of him. Villacis gave up 5 runs in 3 1/3 innings, walked four, struck out none, and the Royals sent him back down and then released him. He never again pitched in the big leagues. … There was the time a Royals outfield “accidentally” shot a television reporter with a pellet gun. … There was the time outfielder Mark Quinn finally walked after a long, long streak without walking. Someone set off fireworks at the stadium. … There was the time a pitcher, frustrated by a bad rehab start, broke his hand hitting a door. …

More. So much more. I’ve written about so many of these things again and again, but I cannot help it. Something bad happens and it all rushes back. This team, well, someday something good is going to happen for this team. Someday.

Tonight, though, they lost when a ball hit a seagull. Well, why not? Why the hell not?

*Alternate headline: I ran. I ran so far away. Couldn’t get away.


SI

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-12-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 2047995)
No mention of the Run Birded In?


The hilarious part was that the TV crew had been making jokes about the seagulls all night long, only to see the game winning hit bounce off one of them.

samifan24 06-12-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 2048241)
The hilarious part was that the TV crew had been making jokes about the seagulls all night long, only to see the game winning hit bounce off one of them.


Ah ha! First the midges and now the seagulls!

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-12-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 2048054)
I bet Kauffmann is SRO for this whole weekend Reds-Royals series coming up.


They'll have good crowds this weekend. The Annual Sky Show is tonight, which was a sellout last year. Sunday should also be a big crowd. It's Family Day including a concert by a Christian rock group after the game. Most of the local churches buy blocks of tickets for that day for their congregation, so it should be a pretty good crowd that day as well.

OK, so none of those reasons have to do with the Royals, but there will be more than 40K for the weekend as sterling implied. I've been invited to a Hall of Fame suite for the Saturday game, so I'll be out there for that. Can't pass up free food and booze.

hoopsguy 06-12-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 2047840)
To translate for the non-Phillies fans, Ibanez hits a three run dinger in the 10th to win the series for the Fightin' Phils. I can't believe how good this guy has been.


It is awesome that the Cubs prioritized Milton Bradley instead of Ibanez in the off season.

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-12-2009 11:01 AM

Pearlman nails the Ibanez/steroids hullabaloo.

Jeff Pearlman: Sportswriter, Author, Blogger

RomaGoth 06-12-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2048257)
It is awesome that the Cubs prioritized Milton Bradley instead of Ibanez in the off season.


They were targeting the board game industry....go figure.

RedKingGold 06-12-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2048075)
I give him plenty of credit, that pitch was about 3 inches HiGHer than the dirt.


So long as he keeps helping the Phils beat the Mets, he can be shooting himself up with cow manure for all I care.

lungs 06-12-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 2047773)
We'll trade you Brad Penny+ a prospect for JJ Hardy... :D.


Actually, we are looking for a rotation upgrade :)

Dr. Sak 06-12-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2048331)
So long as he keeps helping the Phils beat the Mets, he can be shooting himself up with cow manure for all I care.


Just stay away from the Coke...we all saw what that did to Doc Gooden and Strawberry.

stevew 06-12-2009 12:11 PM

The birds were out in full force when i was in cleveland a few weeks ago. That's funny they actually contributed this time. I was just glad they were hanging out in the upper deck, I wasn't in the mood to get shat upon.

lungs 06-12-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2047590)
I haven't seen anything on mlbtraderumors- any hints?

SI


Just to update this.... MLBTraderumors contacted the guys with this rumor for some more juice but it's not to the point of any news publication saying anything thus probably not worth mentioning as it would be construed as idle message board rumor mongering.

Jake Peavy is another name that might make sense and they could be keeping everything on the down low as he considers his no trade clause and to avoid a repeat of the White Sox debacle.

Crapshoot 06-12-2009 12:28 PM

Joe Poz is the single-best baseball writer in America. He ought to be in a real baseball town. :D *ducks*

Atocep 06-12-2009 02:52 PM

When the hell did Kevin Slowey become Tom Seaver?

stevew 06-12-2009 08:04 PM

Porcello pitches at least 7 strong and drives in two runs.

JS19 06-12-2009 09:22 PM

I heart David Wright, the man has been unstoppable the past couple weeks. He just came up with an RBI double on a 2-2 count (i think) off Mo to break a 7-7 tie in the 8th. Been an entertaining game between the two, back and forth.

Lathum 06-12-2009 09:56 PM

I feel ill

Jas_lov 06-12-2009 09:56 PM

lol, what a way to lose for the Mets.

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 09:57 PM

I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win.

Lathum 06-12-2009 09:58 PM

I wish the idiot Yankee announcers wouldn't call Arod the "hero"

RomaGoth 06-12-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 2048745)
I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win.


This is the only way the Yankees can win, what with the stellar starting pitching they are providing and all.

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 09:58 PM

Well, I was rooting for the Yankees to lose, but now that teh Red Sox just went up on the Phillies in the top of the 13th, I guess I'm glad the Mets lost.

JS19 06-12-2009 09:58 PM

wow

sterlingice 06-12-2009 10:00 PM

They're showing it on MLBN

SI

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 10:02 PM

You'll want to mute it so you don't have to listen to Michael Kay's giddy call.

DaddyTorgo 06-12-2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 2048745)
I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win.


ugh :banghead:

DaddyTorgo 06-12-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2048746)
I wish the idiot Yankee announcers wouldn't call Arod the "hero"



let him have his hero moment - this is what...the first game he is somehow involved in them winning since they signed him? :D

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 10:04 PM

I think the worst part of that play on Castillo's part was the throw to second. I'm sure he was in shock, so I guess he wasn't thinking clearly, but he might have gotten Tex at the plate if he had made that throw.

Lathum 06-12-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2048756)
let him have his hero moment - this is what...the first game he is somehow involved in them winning since they signed him? :D


he didn't win shit.

Castillo did, I hope KRod punches him in the face in the locker room. This team has dropped more fly balls then a little league team, I've never in my 34 years seen anything like it.

Lathum 06-12-2009 10:05 PM

They should cut Castillo, send a message that this team better shape up in the field

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 10:06 PM

LOL! Props to MLB Network for pulling out the Edward Scissorhands on that short a notice.

JediKooter 06-12-2009 10:09 PM

Welp, Peavy is out for at least a month. The Dodgers just got the NL West handed to them. Oh wait...nevermind...

Ksyrup 06-12-2009 10:12 PM

While we're celebrating knuckleheads, let's give it up for Milton Bradley, the greatest FA signing ever, mistakenly believing he just caught the third out, posing for the fans while a runner goes from 1st to second, and then throwing the ball into the stands while the runners goes to third. HOLY SHIT - he pulled off a rare Larry Walker gaff/Rickey Henderson pose combo!






GreenMonster 06-12-2009 10:23 PM

I have never seen a worse ending to a game than the Yanks/Mets tonight. Arod, not clutch as usual pops it up with 2 outs in the 9th with runners on 1st and 2nd and Castillo drops the ball in shallow right and both runners score and the Yanks win.

DaddyTorgo 06-12-2009 10:24 PM

yah. fucking castillo

DaddyTorgo 06-12-2009 10:25 PM

awww...whiny bitchy Joe Girardi

A baseball official told 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that the Yankees called the commissioner's office Friday to ask that Brad Penny be suspended for hitting Alex Rodriguez in the back during the first inning of Thursday night's Red Sox win.
"Penny's control was pretty good," Girardi said. "I thought it was on purpose. That is all part of baseball."
Yankees pitchers have hit Red Sox players nine times this season. Rodriguez was the third Yankee to be plunked.

RedKingGold 06-12-2009 11:17 PM

I love when my Phillies win and hate when they lose, but damn does it ease the pain a little bit when your rival loses in embarassing fashion. :D

Marmel 06-13-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2048789)
awww...whiny bitchy Joe Girardi

A baseball official told 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that the Yankees called the commissioner's office Friday to ask that Brad Penny be suspended for hitting Alex Rodriguez in the back during the first inning of Thursday night's Red Sox win.
"Penny's control was pretty good," Girardi said. "I thought it was on purpose. That is all part of baseball."
Yankees pitchers have hit Red Sox players nine times this season. Rodriguez was the third Yankee to be plunked.


I have to agree with Girardi on this one. What Penney did was pretty bush league. He tried to hit A-Rod with the first pitch and missed. Instead he throws a strike to make it look good then drills him. If that is not as intentional as it gets, I don't know what is. He should have been tossed from the game. The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.

Logan 06-13-2009 12:39 AM

I still can't believe that happened. One of those losses where you wonder why you even give a shit about this stuff.

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmel (Post 2048872)
I have to agree with Girardi on this one. What Penney did was pretty bush league. He tried to hit A-Rod with the first pitch and missed. Instead he throws a strike to make it look good then drills him. If that is not as intentional as it gets, I don't know what is. He should have been tossed from the game. The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.


I'm not about to go look for the totals, but:

:lol:

In eight games this season, the HBP totals between these two teams breaks down like this:

Red Sox: 9 (Bay (3), Youkilis, Green (2), Varitek, Drew, Bailey)
Yankees: 3 (Teixeira, Jeter, Rodriquez)

And I don't get his point. It's "all part of baseball" but you want him suspended anyways? What about all those times last season when Joba threw beanballs at Youk's head. Nobody over here was bitching for him to get suspended. Man up Joe.

EagleFan 06-13-2009 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 2048834)
I love when my Phillies win and hate when they lose, but damn does it ease the pain a little bit when your rival loses in embarassing fashion. :D


+1

Several things happening on that play too.

A-Rod wanting to try for second, thought the coach was going to chase him down and drag him back to first.

Castillo throwing to second. Only chance of anything was a throw home but who knows where his head was at that very moment.

The umpire's reaction. He was jogging out there for formality and does a double take before making the signal on the drop.

The annoying announcers with A-Rod the "hero". I will give him credit that he ran it out. As much as it was fn to see the Mets lose like that I must say that it would have been funny to also see a force out at first if he had not run it out to end the game as what would have been the winning run crossed the plate. ;)



Oh, on a note not related to that game. Why the fuck would they not go to the replay on the Dobbs "foul" ball. The ball is way over the foul pole and hooking, there is no shame in going to the replay there.

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2009 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2048909)
+1

Several things happening on that play too.

A-Rod wanting to try for second, thought the coach was going to chase him down and drag him back to first.

Castillo throwing to second. Only chance of anything was a throw home but who knows where his head was at that very moment.

The umpire's reaction. He was jogging out there for formality and does a double take before making the signal on the drop.

The annoying announcers with A-Rod the "hero". I will give him credit that he ran it out. As much as it was fn to see the Mets lose like that I must say that it would have been funny to also see a force out at first if he had not run it out to end the game as what would have been the winning run crossed the plate. ;)



Oh, on a note not related to that game. Why the fuck would they not go to the replay on the Dobbs "foul" ball. The ball is way over the foul pole and hooking, there is no shame in going to the replay there.


manuel could have asked for it - i dunno why he didn't, but i presume that the first base ump told him there was zero doubt it was foul

sterlingice 06-13-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2048882)
I still can't believe that happened. One of those losses where you wonder why you even give a shit about this stuff.


Might I refer you to the last page ;)

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EagleFan 06-13-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2048913)
manuel could have asked for it - i dunno why he didn't, but i presume that the first base ump told him there was zero doubt it was foul


He did ask for it.

DaddyTorgo 06-13-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2049142)
He did ask for it.


really? based on what? lip-reading? or has he gone in-print as saying that?

BishopMVP 06-13-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2049142)
He did ask for it.

Earlier in the season the umps had a 10-minute conference, then decided to go for replay on an obvious overturn. I don't get why they don't just go straight for the technology if they have it. Although in this case, I don't think there was any evidence good enough to overturn Dobbs' home run - too high and too angled.
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Originally Posted by Marmel
The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.

Really? You have any evidence to back that up?

k0ruptr 06-13-2009 05:01 PM

so, I think something clicked in Jose Contreras' brain. in his last 14 innings hes allowed 2 hits and no runs. Maybe his forkball is just working again, whatever it is I hope he keeps it up

k0ruptr 06-13-2009 05:23 PM

dola, and still rolling. man he looks good

stevew 06-13-2009 05:30 PM

I've been impressed the couple times they've gone to replay. Takes just a few seconds once they decide.

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-14-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 2048054)
I bet Kauffmann is SRO for this whole weekend Reds-Royals series coming up.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2048074)
I'm sure the Royals will get 40K- that's good right? ("for the entire series" "oh.")

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It appears the only no-shows thus far this weekend have been the Cincinnati Reds.

Friday:

Royals 4
Reds 1
Attendance: 33,000

Saturday:

Royals 7
Reds 4
Attendance: 29,500

I'm floored that anyone even bothers to question the loyalty of the Royals fan base anymore. The team has been terrible for years, but the fans still show up. We may be gluttons for punishment, but we support our lousy team better than some markets support a good team.

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-14-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmel (Post 2048872)
The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.


2006
Red Sox hit 7 Yankees
Yankees hit 6 Red Sox

2007
Red Sox hit 9 Yankees
Yankees hit 9 Red Sox

2008
Red Sox hit 14 Yankees
Yankees hit 9 Red Sox


2009
Red Sox hit 3 Yankees
Yankees hit 9 Red Sox

Pedro Martinez hasn't pitched for the Red Sox in quite some time.

edit: Having said that, I think it's plain to see that Penny's HPB was intentional, and was in response to the above 2009 stats. He hit him square in the back, it's not like he threw at his head multiple times.

sterlingice 06-14-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 2049404)
It appears the only no-shows thus far this weekend have been the Cincinnati Reds.

Friday:

Royals 4
Reds 1
Attendance: 33,000

Saturday:

Royals 7
Reds 4
Attendance: 29,500

I'm floored that anyone even bothers to question the loyalty of the Royals fan base anymore. The team has been terrible for years, but the fans still show up. We may be gluttons for punishment, but we support our lousy team better than some markets support a good team.


Well, color me impressed by those numbers. After the recent swoon, I thought we had gotten into the part of the season where I was there with about 15K of my closest friends the last few years with the Greinke exception thrown in this year.

I do remember a couple of years ago that there was a study out which showed that even with the lower attendance, Kansas City had one of the highest per capita- top 5 level- of any team in the league. It's just that the city doesn't have as many people to draw from, which, again, is impressive considering the futility we've seen in the long term.

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JPhillips 06-14-2009 01:07 PM

Please. Half of those in attendance were just there to watch Dusty do something inexplicable.

Jas_lov 06-14-2009 01:49 PM

The Mets are pathetic. Johann went 3 and gave up 9. LOL! The 4th inning has been an absolute embarrassment. And there it goes from Robbie Cano! 11-0! Sabathia, Melky, Hughes > Santana

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-14-2009 01:55 PM

Oh shit I forgot that Sabathia was part of the trade.

Jas_lov 06-14-2009 01:57 PM

He wasn't, but they probably wouldn't have gotten Sabathia if they had Santana.

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-14-2009 01:58 PM

Oh, the Yankees would have discovered fiscal prudence if they made the trade? I'm not convinced.

DeToxRox 06-14-2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 2049591)
The Mets are pathetic. Johann went 3 and gave up 9. LOL! The 4th inning has been an absolute embarrassment. And there it goes from Robbie Cano! 11-0! Sabathia, Melky, Hughes > Santana


You are seriously Cliff Claven. Your logic never makes sense and I am pretty sure you don't ever leave your bubble. Santana has one bad start ZOMG! As opposed to most of Hughes starts he had which were terrible. How fucking stupid are you, really?

And I hate the Mets and happy to see them down 12-0 but you are an absolute moron.

DeToxRox 06-14-2009 02:10 PM

Has anyone else heard this?

Apparently some radio station in Cinncy is reporting Joey Votto is gay and that is why he has been out because he is having trouble dealing with it?

It makes such little sense it can't be legit but I've seen it mentioned a few times. A stupid joke perhaps?

Crapshoot 06-14-2009 02:14 PM

Votto's been out for stress-related issues for a couple of weeks now - I hope he's okay. And I hope in this day and age, no one gives a flying fuck about who he wants to sleep with.

DaddyTorgo 06-14-2009 02:21 PM

oh snap

the Phils are really bringing in Chan-ho Park?

DaddyTorgo 06-14-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2049604)
You are seriously Cliff Claven. Your logic never makes sense and I am pretty sure you don't ever leave your bubble. Santana has one bad start ZOMG! As opposed to most of Hughes starts he had which were terrible. How fucking stupid are you, really?

And I hate the Mets and happy to see them down 12-0 but you are an absolute moron.


:D

Mizzou B-ball fan 06-14-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 2049577)
Please. Half of those in attendance were just there to watch Dusty do something inexplicable.


I don't know if it was inexplicable or not, but I just watched him fire his baseball cap halfway down the dugout.

JS19 06-14-2009 02:54 PM

I'm starting to wonder if there may be something wrong, injury wise, with Johan. For about the past month he hasn't been "Santana like". Don't get me wrong, over that month he's pitched well above average, just not his usual dominant self, and he's velocity has been down. Wonder if he's a bit fatigued, or just going through a little slump. He did have that shoulder, or was it elbow, problem in the spring.


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