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Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 08:48 PM

Anything left on CNN's map flips for Obama, it's over, if you factor in the west coast going blue.

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 08:49 PM

Which...CNN just flipped NM over. We're done.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1879583)
And McCain seems to be holding a 50k-60k lead in Indiana as the numbers keep coming in so it looks like he'll carry that one.


Of course, just as I say this, Obama gets within 25k votes in Indiana.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:49 PM

CNN calls NM for Obama and LA for McCain

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:50 PM

I shoulda' written in David Aceveda.

SHIELD IN TEN!

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879601)
Which...CNN just flipped NM over. We're done.



Yet the popular vote is still tight. Obama might not end up with a full point in the end (but then again, California might move it a couple of points).

Maple Leafs 11-04-2008 08:52 PM

Every time they cut to that CNN reporter at McCain HQ, I have to fight the urge to make the "Why the long face?" joke.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879603)
CNN calls NM for Obama and LA for McCain


They just called LA? Didn't Fox call that one about a half hour ago?
(I know CNN has been cautiously a few minutes behind some of the others, I just hadn't noticed them being that far behind on any mentioned here)

sterlingice 11-04-2008 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879559)
I just said pretty much that same thing to my wife. If you told me NC went Obama, I would have assumed without hesitation VA did too.


VA still hasn't counted a lot of the DC area (only 25% counted with a 60-40 edge to Obama), Virginia Beach (25% counted with a 55-45 edge McCain) and only 75% here in Richmond with is roughly 80-20 Obama. I think that one will be Obama's before the night is over- it has a lot more to do with what has been counted so far.

SI

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879606)
Yet the popular vote is still tight. Obama might not end up with a full point in the end (but then again, California might move it a couple of points).


.1%? MANDATE!

Sigh. 4 years of insane taxation and a further expansion of the welfare state.

sterlingice 11-04-2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879608)
They just called LA? Didn't Fox call that one about a half hour ago?
(I know CNN has been cautiously a few minutes behind some of the others, I just hadn't noticed them being that far behind on any mentioned here)


CNN is being very slow. They haven't called some stuff that MSNBC called a half hour and more ago, too.

SI

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879608)
They just called LA? Didn't Fox call that one about a half hour ago?
(I know CNN has been cautiously a few minutes behind some of the others, I just hadn't noticed them being that far behind on any mentioned here)


lol yeah

hey i'm enjoying them being a bit more cautious though - i feel like it's less likely they'll screw up

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879615)
hey i'm enjoying them being a bit more cautious though - i feel like it's less likely they'll screw up


I'm all for that myself, since getting the call right would logically matter more than getting it first.

Tigercat 11-04-2008 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879610)
.1%? MANDATE!

Sigh. 4 years of insane taxation and a further expansion of the welfare state.



I believe their is some business raping and massive baby slaughtering planned as well.

sterlingice 11-04-2008 08:57 PM

And, as soon as I mention Virginia, it goes from McCain by 7K to Obama by 10K

SI

BYU 14 11-04-2008 08:57 PM

CNN is being real cautious. I am listening to CNN on Sirius while I get some work done......I almost find it amusing how McCain's campaign is still slipping in an ad on almost every break attacking Obama for one thing or the other. Is there really anything you can put out at this stage of the game to make a difference?

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:58 PM

I don't even worry about taxation. I am just going to marry a fat, ugly trust fund chick.

Swaggs 11-04-2008 08:59 PM

Rocky Mountain News calling Colorado for Obama.

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1879621)
I don't even worry about taxation. I am just going to marry a fat, ugly trust fund chick.


She won't be worth it after he brings back/ups the death taxes.

Karlifornia 11-04-2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879610)
.1%? MANDATE!

Sigh. 4 years of insane taxation and a further expansion of the welfare state.


If you're complaining about Obama's proposed tax policies, then you must be rich enough to where you needn't worry about it.

Maple Leafs 11-04-2008 09:00 PM

McCain's concession speech should be fascinating.

Does he start setting the stage for 2012? Does he try to rebuild a legacy for himself? Is it even possible to do both?

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 09:00 PM

I think this race came up at least once or twice in the past 10k posts, so I'll mention that incumbent Jim Marshall (D) will hang on to his House seat in middle Georgia by around a 55-45 margin.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 09:01 PM

CNN projects IA to Obama

UT+ KS to McCain

also saw on 538.com that Rocky Mountain News is reporting that CO is going to go hugely to Obama...no confirmation yet

Flasch186 11-04-2008 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1879555)
And I call dibs on Maria Bartiromo.


Ill call a menage with Melissa Francis and Margaret Brennan

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1879628)
McCain's concession speech should be fascinating.


He made that weeks ago, in the "Obama is an okay guy" speech. The race largely ended right there, as he lost the confidence of too many core voters.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1879628)
McCain's concession speech should be fascinating.

Does he start setting the stage for 2012? Does he try to rebuild a legacy for himself? Is it even possible to do both?



There is no way McCAin will ever be a viable candidate again. Ever.

JPhillips 11-04-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879624)
She won't be worth it after he brings back/ups the death taxes.


Dibs on first in line to assfuck the rich!

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1879625)
If you're complaining about Obama's proposed tax policies, then you must be rich enough to where you needn't worry about it.


Me? No. I come from a wealthy family, and will theoretically (assuming he doesn't tax it all into oblivion) be wealthy one day, as a disclaimer. I have none of that money right now, and support myself entirely.

That said, being wealthy is not a crime. It shouldn't be punished like one.

Klinglerware 11-04-2008 09:03 PM

Chris Shays lost his re-election bid in CT. There are now zero Republicans representing New England in the House of Representatives...

Galaxy 11-04-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1879628)
McCain's concession speech should be fascinating.

Does he start setting the stage for 2012? Does he try to rebuild a legacy for himself? Is it even possible to do both?


No way McCain will go for 2012. I expect the GOP to really do some re-branding and look for new blood going into the 2010 Congressional elections.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klinglerware (Post 1879639)
Chris Shays lost his re-election bid in CT. There are now zero Republicans representing New England in the House of Representatives...


Haha that's awesome :D

sabotai 11-04-2008 09:05 PM

I think Obama has said yes to the death tax, and yes on raising the amount that it kicks in (I think he said $2.5 million which I think is up from $1 million).

terpkristin 11-04-2008 09:05 PM

I've switched channels from ABC to Comedy Central.

/tk

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879638)
Me? No. I come from a wealthy family, and will theoretically (assuming he doesn't tax it all into oblivion) be wealthy one day, as a disclaimer. I have none of that money right now, and support myself entirely.

That said, being wealthy is not a crime. It shouldn't be punished like one.



I think I'll go give a dollar to my local wealthy people. They are really going to need our support now.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879636)
There is no way McCAin will ever be a viable candidate again. Ever.


You say that as though he was one this time.

Flasch186 11-04-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879638)
Me? No. I come from a wealthy family, and will theoretically (assuming he doesn't tax it all into oblivion) be wealthy one day, as a disclaimer. I have none of that money right now, and support myself entirely.

That said, being wealthy is not a crime. It shouldn't be punished like one.


However thats not generally the argument made by the "rich". Usually it's how hard theyve worked to get the $ that is the "rich" equivalent and admittedly not the hard working money you earn now.

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879645)
I think I'll go give a dollar to my local wealthy people. They are really going to need our support now.


Hey, we're sharing the wealth now, right? Sharing goes both ways!

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin (Post 1879644)
I've switched channels from ABC to Comedy Central./tk


You switched to MSNBC?

Karlifornia 11-04-2008 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879645)
I think I'll go give a dollar to my local wealthy people. They are really going to need our support now.


lol. Yes...I will add any tips that I get tomorrow to the Wealthy Citizens Of The Poor fund.

sabotai 11-04-2008 09:08 PM

Obama is now neck and neck with McCain in Indiana.

terpkristin 11-04-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879649)
You switched to MSNBC?


LOL.

I really did switch to Comedy Central, where Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert are doing Indecision 2008. It's still liberal media, but at least it knows how to make fun of itself.

/tk

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 09:11 PM

AR for McCain per CNN (heh)

JPhillips 11-04-2008 09:11 PM

So over the last two elections

House +50-60 Dem

Senate +12-14 Dem

President Dem

Deep dark truthful mirror for the Republican party coming tomorrow.

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1879656)
Deep dark truthful mirror for the Republican party coming tomorrow.


Not sure the mirror will be truthful. I've seen a lot of folks say the R's need to go HARDER to the right.

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 1879647)
However thats not generally the argument made by the "rich". Usually it's how hard theyve worked to get the $ that is the "rich" equivalent and admittedly not the hard working money you earn now.


Hey, I'll be the first to admit I will not have worked for the money that I will one day inherit. That said, I've worked damned hard to keep myself living comfortably and NOT having to live off my parents.

The simple truth is....the rich are an easy target to tax into oblivion. It's the bread and circus show of the modern age. Tax the shit out of the rich, keep the plebes on the government teet, and you've got yourself an angle to be popular.

I find that thoroughly irritating.

sterlingice 11-04-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin (Post 1879644)
I've switched channels from ABC to Comedy Central.

/tk


I went from MSNBC to CC

SI

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 1879660)
Not sure the mirror will be truthful. I've seen a lot of folks say the R's need to go HARDER to the right.


Good lord. Are they TRYING to lose every shred of credibility with 99% of voters?

Groundhog 11-04-2008 09:15 PM

I get back from lunch and you crazy fucks have added another 4 pages to this thread.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1879642)
I think Obama has said yes to the death tax, and yes on raising the amount that it kicks in (I think he said $2.5 million which I think is up from $1 million).


I hate the death tax. To me, it's double taxation.

Karlifornia 11-04-2008 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879661)
Hey, I'll be the first to admit I will not have worked for the money that I will one day inherit. That said, I've worked damned hard to keep myself living comfortably and NOT having to live off my parents.

The simple truth is....the rich are an easy target to tax into oblivion. It's the bread and circus show of the modern age. Tax the shit out of the rich, keep the plebes on the government teet, and you've got yourself an angle to be popular.

I find that thoroughly irritating.


Did you just wake up out of an 8 year coma?


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