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DaddyTorgo 04-11-2007 07:33 PM

me?

what have I done that's suspicious?

wow...maybe everyone in my RL is right and i'm "off" lately *shrug*

Ironhead 04-11-2007 07:33 PM

Keep in mind that the priest was a day 1 bid, day 2 use thing. The service that allows me to kill was a day 2 bid, day 3 (today use). Unless an overwhelming majority of the board want the name of the service revealed I think it would actually be a pretty bad idea, as I have stated up to this point.

Autumn 04-11-2007 07:34 PM

Does anyone have a vote count?

hoopsguy 04-11-2007 07:35 PM

Iron, so you are saying that I misread - that you won bids both days but they were not both the priest?

If so, then sorry for the confusion. And I was surprised that the Priest would be the killer out of the three "unclaimed" day 1 roles ...

st.cronin 04-11-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 1439881)
Does anyone have a vote count?


I count 16 votes for execution

Tyrith (624), Narcizo (639), Grammaticus (642), ardent (653),
Imthecrew (661), Barkeep (734), saldana (757), path12 (786), KWhit (798),
Chief Rum (799), Coffee Warlord (880), Mustang (888), Schmidty (893), Autumn (901), peregrine (924), Dodgerchick (949)

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1439878)
me?

what have I done that's suspicious?

wow...maybe everyone in my RL is right and i'm "off" lately *shrug*


You're acting a lot like you did the last time I played with you, when we were both wolves.

Simply put, if bullet turns out to be a traitor, I STRONGLY suspect you are too.

saldana 04-11-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1439861)
KWhit, it doesn't prove he is innocent. But it does suggest he is telling the truth.

I believe Bullet is more motivated to stay in the game with a role he enjoys - Doc Holliday in Tombstone is one example of this. For whatever reason, he is not inclined to help people who want to lynch him even if that means the game ends earlier for him.

If Bullet was a Tarq and had hired a role that allowed him to do a kill then he would have to speculate about claiming a role. Yet he selected one that had risk associated with it - he had to have the right name (50% shot) since AE had not revealed the name of his hire.

It doesn't clear him. But it creates enough doubt for me that I want to avoid jumping on the pile of votes already on him. And I'm getting my vote out rather than abstaining.


hoops, normally i dont question your reasoning much, as it is usually sound and logical, but in this case, you are missing something rather significant....bullet's disclosure actually proves he is isnt being honest...he alleged that he had signicantly important information, and now he claims he hired an ex-legionairre....if that is what his big information is, why the exaggeration? why not just say that to begin with, as it was essentially worthless? why any deception at all? why not just say that he was just vanilla and that killing him would be a mistake instead of now making an issue about the veracity of his statement?

if nothing else, i dont trust him at this point...my vote stays.

DaddyTorgo 04-11-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1439885)
You're acting a lot like you did the last time I played with you, when we were both wolves.

Simply put, if bullet turns out to be a traitor, I STRONGLY suspect you are too.


that game was HOT. We were so damm close to winning!!! :mad:

nah. I try to act consistent no matter what my role is, for the most part.

DaddyTorgo 04-11-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 1439887)
hoops, normally i dont question your reasoning much, as it is usually sound and logical, but in this case, you are missing something rather significant....bullet's disclosure actually proves he is isnt being honest...he alleged that he had signicantly important information, and now he claims he hired an ex-legionairre....if that is what his big information is, why the exaggeration? why not just say that to begin with, as it was essentially worthless? why any deception at all? why not just say that he was just vanilla and that killing him would be a mistake instead of now making an issue about the veracity of his statement?

if nothing else, i dont trust him at this point...my vote stays.


interesting point:eek:

Ironhead 04-11-2007 07:41 PM

Correct Hoops - I think you misread me.

Day 1 bid was for the Priest which I won, which was a minor ability that did not involve killing.

Day 2 bid was for a different service that I won, which is a killing role.

I assumed everyone realized this but just to point out, the list of services for hire for Day 1 and Day 2 are different.

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:46 PM

Hey AE? Drop your lawsuits on me. I like my money, mmkay?

st.cronin 04-11-2007 07:46 PM

less than 15 minutes to deadline

over/under on # of pms I receive in that time: 12

Antmeister 04-11-2007 07:46 PM

Gentlemen there has been much activity occuring in the Senate and I am perplexed. I am going to sue the following people who bumped me in the halls.
Antus Meisterus sues Saldanus Lathumus
Antus Meisterus sues
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus

And with some evidence mounting agaist him, I vote:
Execute
Bulletus Spongeus

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:46 PM

Taking the over.

hoopsguy 04-11-2007 07:48 PM

Saldana - I don't know why he would go down that path.

I've already put together enough arguments on his behalf - it would be great if he would address the question directly as he is in the room.

I am really hoping that I've been defending a Tarq all day today like an idiot - would not be the first time something like that happened (third I can think of if it comes in like that).

Autumn 04-11-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister (Post 1439898)
Gentlemen there has been much activity occuring in the Senate and I am perplexed. I am going to sue the following people who bumped me in the halls.
Antus Meisterus sues Saldanus Lathumus
Antus Meisterus sues
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus

And with some evidence mounting agaist him, I vote:
Execute
Bulletus Spongeus


Can you explain your reasoning for those lawsuits in particular?

saldana 04-11-2007 07:49 PM

saldanus lathumus sues the following senators
Coffeus Yakus Warlordus
Ironsus Headus
Lonestarus Girlus
Marcus Vaughnus
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus
Abeus Anxietus
Antus Meisterus
Autumnus Leavus
Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Kayus Whitus
Narcizus Lispus
Pathus Twelveus
Peregrinus Barbarus

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:50 PM

...

Coffeus Yakus countersues Saldanus Lathumus

hoopsguy 04-11-2007 07:51 PM

OK, I'm going to add a pair of lawsuits alongside the one I have on "deadus manus walkus".

HOOPUS GUYUS SUES BARKEEPUS VALERIUS FORTYNINEUS
HOOPUS GUYUS SUES
DADDYUS TORGOUS

Poli 04-11-2007 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1439895)
Hey AE? Drop your lawsuits on me. I like my money, mmkay?

You never apologized.:p

hoopsguy 04-11-2007 07:52 PM

And I'll explain the reasoning for those suits after deadline - not like they are going to make it on the docket with the flurry in front of me.

Poli 04-11-2007 07:52 PM

I got the over.

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1439907)
You never apologized.:p


'Cause I still suspect you. :)

Poli 04-11-2007 07:53 PM

And I'm still suing you. Seems fair.

saldana 04-11-2007 07:54 PM

in case i am dead in ten minutes, i want to give you one of my thoughts.

i said yesterday that it could be possible that a victory condition for the tarquins was to occupy both consul seats and the tribune at the same time....that actually didnt seem logical after i thought about it, since the tribune position is filled randomly in the result of my death, so i have refined the theory.

i would find it possible that if all the wolves reach the highest level of wealth AND they hold both consul positions, they will win the game regardless of how many of us are still alive.

Autumn 04-11-2007 07:54 PM

I for one am concerned with all the "random" lawsuits going around. I would like the SEnate to come up with a set of guidelines meant to bring out the most treason. Leaving it to each individual makes it too easy for a traitor to gather wealth under the guise of helping the REpublic.

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1439912)
And I'm still suing you. Seems fair.


No taking money from a Senator loyal to Republic, you money grubber!

Ironhead 04-11-2007 07:56 PM

VOTE TOSS BULLETUS SPONGEUS OFF THE ROCK

If he is a wolf we have done a great thing. If he is a villager it is a tragedy, but at the same time what is he doing to help the village? If the threat of his death can't light a fire under his ass how can I rely on him going forward?

Abe Sargent 04-11-2007 07:57 PM

Abeus Anxitius sues

Lonestarus Girlus
Marcus Vaughnus



Since I got sued by like four or five people today

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 07:59 PM

Coffeus Yakus wants more money, and thusly sues Dodgus Erchickus

Yes. I'm money grubbing.

Poli 04-11-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1439915)
No taking money from a Senator loyal to Republic, you money grubber!

NO suspecting a Senator loyal to the Republic, you coffee warlord!

bulletsponge 04-11-2007 08:00 PM

Dying in this game isnt that bad, at least i get away from all the sleazy lawsuits. i only regret not hiring the assassin and killing a damn lawyer with me!

Poli 04-11-2007 08:00 PM

Hey!

st.cronin 04-11-2007 08:00 PM

deadline

Poli 04-11-2007 08:01 PM

I think BS maybe BS then!

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 08:02 PM

So was it the over or the under?

Grammaticus 04-11-2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1439849)
Here is how I see the info of the last 30 minutes:

1. Bullet said he hired Titus Ludius (post #915)
2. Titus is an ex-legionnaire (post #4)
3. Ardent, who had hired an ex-legionnaire, and says it was Gallus Clarus (#925)
4. Ironhead says he has hired a role on Day 2 that has the ability to kill (post #919)

So, Bullet would have had to guess a role from Day 1 that is not contested, then guess the right name (50% shot), and not reveal a role that had a chance to launch the night kill?

VOTE FREE BULLETUS SPONGEUS


I think that if he is a Tarq or loyal to the Republic, he would tell the truth about hiring the BG. I mean, why lie?

Poli 04-11-2007 08:03 PM

I did my part. I sent him one asking if he wanted some crack.

KWhit 04-11-2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast (Post 1439933)
I did my part. I sent him one asking if he wanted some crack.


Which I'm sure was very helpful to him as he was trying to finish last minute stuff before the deadline.

Poli 04-11-2007 08:05 PM

Thanks, kwhit.

Poli 04-11-2007 08:05 PM

:rolleyes:

st.cronin 04-11-2007 08:06 PM

the results of today's lawsuits are: (winner underlined)

Chief rum sues Lonestargirl
Narcizo sues Peregrine
Neon_Chaos sues Anxiety
Neon_Chaos sues Antmeister
Neon_Chaos sues Autumn
Neon_Chaos sues Barkeep
Neon_Chaos sues Path12
Neon_Chaos sues Peregrine
Alan T sues Chief Rum
Alan T sues Barkeep
Kwhit sues Chief Rum
Kwhit sues DaddyTorgo
Kwhit sues Hoopsguy
Kwhit sues Narcizo
Kwhit sues Neon_Chaos
Kwhit sues Tyrith
Imthecrew sues Bulletsponge
Imthecrew sues Alan T
Antmeister sues Neon Chaos

Poli 04-11-2007 08:06 PM

I guess I should expect to see my name on the block then.

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 08:08 PM

Holy SHIT does KWhit not lose lawsuits.

st.cronin 04-11-2007 08:08 PM

The following Senators have voted to execute Bulletus Spongeus on the charge of treason:

Tyrith (624), Narcizo (639), Grammaticus (642), ardent (653), Imthecrew (661), saldana (757), path12 (786), KWhit (798), Chief Rum (799), Coffee Warlord (880), Mustang (888), Schmidty (893), Autumn (901), peregrine (924), Dodgerchick (949), Antmeister (963), Ironhead (978)


Bulletus Spongeus is thus bound and hurled to his death from the Tarpeian Rock.


pms on the way; as before if you do not receive a pm, this means you were outbid

Coffee Warlord 04-11-2007 08:11 PM

Uh...is this a no role reveal on death game?

Poli 04-11-2007 08:11 PM

Gah!

Grammaticus 04-11-2007 08:11 PM

Maybe the Priest allows you to tell if the person who hit the rock was Tarq or Republican

Peregrine 04-11-2007 08:13 PM

No role reveal on death doesn't surprise me, given the lack of information on every other aspect. Heh, I feel like we loyalists are playing with 26 cards and the Tarqs have the full deck.

Autumn 04-11-2007 08:13 PM

Perhaps the real game is how many of us will survive bashing our heads on the wall if he doesn't reveal Bulletus' role.


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