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HornsManiac 04-16-2003 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Shorty3281
Don't fuck with my stones, thats my favorite for cost and quality. :D


Shorty - I thought you were still in school?

Damn, I need to stop socializing with so many criminals. ;)

HornsManiac

MizzouRah 04-16-2003 04:28 PM

X is unreal in terms of the feeling you get when using. I've tried it maybe 6-7 times, although it's been 2 years since my last time and that was on my honeymoon with my wife. An orgasm on X is unreal... in fact just thinking about it gives me goosebumps. Things like taking a shower, chewing a starburst, playing with silly putty, using a vicks inhaler, etc... are definitly erotic on X.


Ahhhh... the younger days.


Todd

sabotai 04-16-2003 04:55 PM

Marmel appears to be a classic example of over compensation. I'm betting he's actually a repressed homosexual.

And I LOVE lesbians!!!

Ksyrup 04-16-2003 04:59 PM

If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?

HornsManiac 04-16-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?


Submitted.

LMAO Great stuff, Ksyrup.

HornsManiac

wbonnell 04-16-2003 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by dawgfan
Just as a devil's argument, I'm curious to know if Ksyrup and others that foreswear 'drugs' also avoid alcohol.



Well, I probably drink 1-2 beers a week- sometimes a little more, sometimes none at all. And I must admit that taste isn't the only part I like. I also like the way it warms me up and relaxes me. However, this is a much milder effect than, say, getting high on crank. Parallels can be drawn, I suppose, but there's really no comparison. Now, if I drank, say, 6 beers in one sitting, then clearly I would be using it as an escape mechanism, and in my opinion, drugs are not a healthy escape. Why not read a book or play a video game...

wbonnell 04-16-2003 05:38 PM

dola

The hard part is discerning where that line lies. To simplify I would say the line is drawn when it reaches escape as in: "I must have a beer to help unwind after a long day". I suspect that's how the addiction starts. If you're drinking beer everyday, you have a problem. A problem under control, perhaps, but a problem nonetheless.

Fritz 04-16-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by HornsManiac
Submitted.

LMAO Great stuff, Ksyrup.

HornsManiac



new rules. cant curse in a QOTM

HornsManiac 04-16-2003 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?


By then I am sure some chemist student reject turned addict will have introduced Viagra laced Ecstasy for the impotent druggie in your life. :D

HornsManiac

BishopMVP 04-16-2003 06:47 PM

To answer the original question, it's not popular up here at all. I think it's mainly a rural/southern thing for now.

McSweeny 04-16-2003 06:51 PM

yeah we enjoy the beer and the pot up here in good old connecticut

dawgfan 04-16-2003 06:53 PM

Not having ever tried crank I have no idea what the range of effects are. Obviously with alcohol you can range from hardly any effect to completely bombed. I've been completely bombed, I've been extremely high on dope and I've taken both LSD and magic mushrooms. While each experience is different, I'm not prepared to say they're all that different in terms of how far away from "normal" consciousness they take you. Yes, bombed on alcohol is a completely different experience than tripping heavily on psychodelics, but they're both quite a long ways from your baseline experience.

My point is still that most people do drugs to alter their experiences. The reasons why are as varied as there are people in this world, but the primary purpose is the same.

For those that drink coffee solely for the taste, I curious - have you switched to decaf then? I'm not a coffee drinker myself (never could acquire the taste) so maybe that's a dumb question - I suppose decaf could taste like crap in comparison to regular. But I still suspect that most that drink coffee on a regular basis are still doing so partly for the buzz, even if they've developed a tolerance and don't notice it so much anymore.

The thing about saying "drugs are not a healthy escape" is how do you define the word 'drug'? Our government and by conjunction society has done such a good job of demonizing the word that most people would agree with your statement, but where do you draw the line in describing something as a drug?

Don't get me wrong here - I acknowledge that there is certainly a point where casual use can turn into addiction and becomes an unhealthy situation. And I also don't mean to imply that because I believe there is an inherent drive in most people to alter their consciousness at times that it excuses addictive/destructive substance abuse. I also believe that if one is going to deliberately mess with their consciousness, they should do so in a way that doesn't cause a danger to others (i.e. driving while altered, etc.)

I just think it's overly simplistic to say "drugs are bad" and questioning why anyone leading a seemingly good life would want to take drugs is a narrow viewpoint.

Airhog 04-16-2003 06:57 PM

meth in a nationwide epidemic. It affects every community in the country probably

korme 04-16-2003 07:03 PM

Hardly, Airhog. I'm too lazy to type more, read my other post.

Ksyrup 04-16-2003 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by dawgfan
I just think it's overly simplistic to say "drugs are bad" and questioning why anyone leading a seemingly good life would want to take drugs is a narrow viewpoint.

I can't argue that my perspective isn't narrow - it's the only one I've got! :)

BishopMVP 04-16-2003 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Airhog
meth in a nationwide epidemic. It affects every community in the country probably


When was the last time you heard of a meth lab bust in the blue states? It's always East Bumfuck, Arkansas. Up here we stick to alcohol, weed, XTC and coke.

Fritz 04-16-2003 07:10 PM

drugs are bad

dawgfan 04-16-2003 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
I can't argue that my perspective isn't narrow - it's the only one I've got! :)


True 'dat. Hope you didn't take that personally...

I'm curious, do you do anything that you would consider as something that changes your normal experience, i.e. are you an adrenaline junkie, a workout fiend, etc.?

sabotai 04-16-2003 07:47 PM

In NJ it's mostly pot and X. Haven't heard of many (any) meth lab busts in my neck of the woods.

Ksyrup 04-16-2003 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by dawgfan
True 'dat. Hope you didn't take that personally...

I'm curious, do you do anything that you would consider as something that changes your normal experience, i.e. are you an adrenaline junkie, a workout fiend, etc.?



No, not really. Like I said, I think music is as close as I get to an "altered state."

MizzouRah 04-16-2003 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
If you need X on your honeymoon, what in the hell are you gonna use for the 25th anniversary?


LOL! That is a quote of the day :p

We didn't need anything, we've done it before and wanted to see what it was like laying on the beach in Jamaica, so on the last day of our honeymoon we dropped them and just layed there talking and enjoying the night... They were a present from a good friend of ours.


Todd

Airhog 04-16-2003 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by BishopMVP
When was the last time you heard of a meth lab bust in the blue states? It's always East Bumfuck, Arkansas. Up here we stick to alcohol, weed, XTC and coke.

just because they arent busting labs doesnt mean its not being made and shipped there...

Airhog 04-16-2003 08:58 PM

okay I have to retract my statements, Apparently meth hasnt taken hold in the northeast.

Another interesting fact is that 4% of labs produce more than 80% of the countries meth supply. I would imagine that many of the meth labs you see getting busted are just built by some junkie looking to supply himself and make a few bucks, these arent the labs that are supplying this country.

Cowtown 04-16-2003 09:05 PM


MizzouRah 04-16-2003 09:19 PM

LOL!



Todd

Qwikshot 04-16-2003 09:24 PM

There was a meth lab bust in Philadelphia...

tucker342 04-16-2003 10:22 PM

Speed is a really big problem here in Iowa. People usually make it out at their farms...

HornsManiac 04-17-2003 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by HornsManiac
If you will notice I still used the word "addict" because very few people can just put down speed and never touch it again, so by definition they are probably considered addicted. However, they may go weeks or months without getting wired. Still, they will almost always without fail get wired again at some point. I know people who only get wired every few months, but like clockwork they get wired every few months and probably will for the rest of their lives. Here starts a new FOFC debate, are people like this truly addicts in your mind and the minds of society?

Was this question for the forum missed? Opinions please, are these people really addicts?

HornsManiac


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