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saldana 05-11-2010 11:31 AM

dola, this thread has completely destroyed the chances of me getting any work done this afternoon.

Kodos 05-11-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 2281111)
I think Tom Cruise's problem is he has had too many roles that feel fairly identical that it is hard to identify him as any of them. I loved Days of Thunder but don't really think of Cole Trickle when I think of Tom Cruise.

In fact, the role I most think of when I think Tom Cruise is actually that bartending movie (whatever the name of it was) for some stupid reason :)


To me, Tom Cruise is Maverick and Jerry Maguire.

Logan 05-11-2010 11:36 AM

I think the Pacino one is pretty good call, especially once you consider the Scarface effect on a completely separate generation years later.

Landshark44 05-11-2010 11:38 AM

bobby bouchet, and happy gilmour

adam sandler

rjolley 05-11-2010 11:45 AM

Jim Carey as Ace Ventura, Edward Nigma/The Riddler, Fire Marshall Bill, and Truman

MJ4H 05-11-2010 11:47 AM

Stallone for Rambo + Rocky
Schwarzenegger for Conan + Terminator

These are the only ones I've seen remotely close to Ford.

Ronnie Dobbs2 05-11-2010 11:49 AM

I think Stallone and Heston are the only two you could argue, but unsuccessfully.

johnnyshaka 05-11-2010 11:51 AM

How about Redford?

EDIT: Roy Hobbs and The Sundance Kid.

Raiders Army 05-11-2010 11:56 AM

Brad Pitt as Jennifer's Husband and Angelina's Husband.

KWhit 05-11-2010 11:57 AM

Dan Aykroyd for Blues Brothers and Ghostbusters.

John Belushi for Animal House and Blues Brothers.

Bill Murray for Caddyshack and Ghostbusters.

Danny 05-11-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2281131)
Dan Aykroyd for Blues Brothers and Ghostbusters.

John Belushi for Animal House and Blues Brothers.

Bill Murray for Caddyshack and Ghostbusters.


Considering you couldn't think (or just didn't mention) of the character names, I don't think these are very good choices.

Raiders Army 05-11-2010 12:03 PM

Ron Howard: Opie and Richie Cunningham

DataKing 05-11-2010 12:04 PM

I too am having a hard time coming up with a single actor who portrays two different characters that I would consider "iconic." There are a number of actors with one iconic character (Mel Gibson as Riggs, Al Pacino as Michael Corleone), but two have two separate ones does appear to be a bit of a rarity. Then there are those actors who I don't feel have individual iconic roles, because they actually overpower the characters that they portray (Nicholson comes to mind).

The closest I can come up with (and props to whoever mentioned it first) is Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry and The Man With No Name. Dirty Harry is definitely an iconic character, and I think the second qualifies as well, though perhaps only tenuously (since no concerted effort was ever made by Leone to show that it was indeed the same character from one movie to the next).

That's my take, anyway.

Edit: Actually I'd have to agree with Stallone as well. Rambo and Rocky are definitely both iconic characters (even if some of the movies they were portrayed in sucked).

larrymcg421 05-11-2010 12:06 PM

I think Stallone is certainly the closest, but Indy + Han Solo > Rocky + Rambo

We're all coming up with good secondary choices, but none of them really compare to Indiana Jones and Han Solo.

Raiders Army 05-11-2010 12:06 PM

JaMarcus Russell: Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man and ex-Raiders QB

DataKing 05-11-2010 12:11 PM

I've got one:

Kurt Russell: Snake Pliskin and Jack Burton.

johnnyshaka 05-11-2010 12:12 PM

Acutally, Dustin Hoffman really belongs here...The Graduate, Tootsie, Rainman, and even Hook were all iconic performances as characters most everybody knows and easily identify him with those great movies. I'd even throw Papillon in there but he was more of a supporting actor in that one.

larrymcg421 05-11-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 2281152)
Acutally, Dustin Hoffman really belongs here...The Graduate, Tootsie, Rainman, and even Hook were all iconic performances as characters most everybody knows and easily identify him with those great movies. I'd even throw Papillon in there but he was more of a supporting actor in that one.


None of those approach Han Solo/Indiana Jones.

And if we're gonna start throwing in more than two, then we can add Jack Ryan for Ford.

revrew 05-11-2010 12:15 PM

I'd put them in this order:

#4 - Charlton Heston - Moses + Ben-Hur
#3 - Stallone for Rambo + Rocky
#2 - Harrison Ford for Han Solo + Indiana Jones

But at the top of the list, I think we ought to dig a little deeper in the history books, for an actor whose biggest two roles got him ranked as portraying film history's No. 1 worst bad guy AND film history's No. 1 best good guy. THAT'S an accomplishment that deserves some props (even if it is a stretch to place him higher than #3 or #2 on the list above):

#1 Gregory Peck - Captain Ahab and Atticus Finch

Antmeister 05-11-2010 12:16 PM

Ian McKellen

Gandalf (Lord of the Rings) and Magneto (The X-Men)

JonInMiddleGA 05-11-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by revrew (Post 2281156)
whose biggest two roles got him ranked as portraying film history's No. 1 worst bad guy AND film history's No. 1 best good guy. ... #1 Gregory Peck - Captain Ahab and Atticus Finch


What the hell list ranked Ahab as the #1 worst bad guy in film history? And what were they smoking at the time?

DataKing 05-11-2010 12:17 PM

Possible revision to my first statement:

Mel Gibson: Riggs and Mad Max

Antmeister 05-11-2010 12:27 PM

While I can easily identify with the Harrison Ford pick, Alan Rickman has been in a number of memorable roles in good movies:

Severus Snape (Harry Potter Series)
Sheriff of Nottingham (Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves)
Hans Gruber (Die Hard)
Dr. Lazerus (Galaxy Quest)

boberot 05-11-2010 12:27 PM

I think Ford & Stallone, for iconic status in a mainstream audience, are a solid 1/2.

I'll just throw out Mel Gibson as Mad Max and Riggs -- both pretty iconic, on a smaller scale, in their own right.

boberot 05-11-2010 12:27 PM

Oops, DataKing beat me to the draw.

boberot 05-11-2010 12:30 PM

How about Michael J Fox -- Alex P Keaton / Marty McFly

PurdueBrad 05-11-2010 12:32 PM

I don't know how high he gets on the list but Denzel Washington probably belongs in the discussion. The biggest role is Alonzo in Training Day and then Creasy in Man on Fire, Joe Miller in Philadelpiha, or Malcolm X in Malcolm X is a fairly iconic collection I would think. Maybe even the coach from Remember the Titans but I can't recall the character's name.

Antmeister 05-11-2010 12:32 PM

Al Pacino has to be to be up there for #1 guy in iconic movies.

Michael Corleone (Godfather)
Frank Serpico (Serpico)
Tony Montana (Scarface)

Other notable films
Glengarry Glen Ross, Carlito's Way, Heat

Ronnie Dobbs2 05-11-2010 12:33 PM

Not everyone defines iconic the same way I do.

Antmeister 05-11-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2281168)
I don't know how high he gets on the list but Denzel Washington probably belongs in the discussion. The biggest role is Alonzo in Training Day and then Creasy in Man on Fire, Joe Miller in Philadelpiha, or Malcolm X in Malcolm X is a fairly iconic collection I would think. Maybe even the coach from Remember the Titans but I can't recall the character's name.


Oh and let's not forget Glory.

Travis 05-11-2010 12:37 PM

Not sure I can lobby this to pass Ford or Stallone, but what about Swayze for Roadhouse, Ghost and Dirty Dancing? I'm awful with names so penalize him there if you want, and while he's probably bigger overall for the latter two movies, probably worth consideration.

What about Bruce Willis for Die Hard and Moonlighting?

PurdueBrad 05-11-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister (Post 2281172)
Oh and let's not forget Glory.


And I guess Ruben Carter from Hurricane as well. Like I said, I'm not sure he cracks the top 3 or maybe even top 5 but he's got some pretty big roles up there that I would consider iconic.

Sun Tzu 05-11-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 2281111)
In fact, the role I most think of when I think Tom Cruise is actually that bartending movie (whatever the name of it was) for some stupid reason :)


Cocktail!

Actually, after reading this whole thing over, I'm going to go with Stallone in a tie, with Travolta pulling in a distance second. Everyone knows Rambo, and everyone knows Rocky. Combine the two and you've got 10 movies...ten movies. Regardless of what you thought of the Rambo series, the original film "First Blood" was actually quite good, with relatively little action and solid character development. Rocky won best picture, and despite the immense commercialization of the series, every one of the movies still holds up to this day.

I thought Ford was great in both series, and I'm a big Star Wars fan, but sitting on my shelf right next to Star Wars Ep IV - VI is the Rocky Anthology.


Travis 05-11-2010 12:54 PM

Julie Andrews for The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins?

Chevy Chase - Clark Griswold and Fletch

Marmel 05-11-2010 12:58 PM

Ford wins hands down, but here are a couple that I haven't seen mentioned

Shatner for Kirk and TJ Hooker
Michael Keaton for Batman and Beetlejuice
Bob Newhart for his 2 TV characters

DataKing 05-11-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 2281185)
Chevy Chase - Clark Griswold and Fletch


I generally have a hard time considering comic characters to be iconic, but I like this one. But if you're going to consider this, then you probably have to include Bill Murray as was mentioned earlier in the thread (for Carl Spackler and Peter Venkman).

Ronnie Dobbs2 05-11-2010 01:00 PM

Julie Andrews is an excellent answer.

Marmel 05-11-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 2281140)
Ron Howard: Opie and Richie Cunningham


Best one to rival Stallone and Ford!

Alan T 05-11-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2281188)
Julie Andrews is an excellent answer.



Yeah, actually this one completely slipped my mind, but has to be a top 5 easily.

PraetorianX 05-11-2010 01:09 PM

Patrick Stewart for Captain Jean-Luc Picard and Professor Charles Xavier. Not quite Indy/Han but still..

stevew 05-11-2010 01:11 PM

With Ford you also get Jack Ryan. He's not super iconic, but he's on par with many of the people's 2nd character.

Sun Tzu 05-11-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PraetorianX (Post 2281198)
Patrick Stewart for Captain Jean-Luc Picard and Professor Charles Xavier. Not quite Indy/Han but still..


I think Picard has reached Kirk/Spock status in the ST Icon world. Still I don't think the X-men series is nearly popular (or quality) enough to warrant discussion in this thread.

I love Picard though.

Comey 05-11-2010 01:26 PM

Could Shatner work for Denny Crane, as well?

Ronnie Dobbs2 05-11-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comey (Post 2281209)
Could Shatner work for Denny Crane, as well?


Of course, and also the iconic Priceline Negotiator.

Coffee Warlord 05-11-2010 01:28 PM

Seems like most actors really are iconic for a single role, and it's the rare one who gets Two Major Defining Roles.

spleen1015 05-11-2010 01:29 PM

Harrison Ford wins.

He's the only person to have 2 of his characters featured in LEGO video games.

Game. Set. Match.

Neuqua 05-11-2010 01:30 PM

Christian Bale might belong on the list in a few years if they continue on with the Terminators.

Swaggs 05-11-2010 01:33 PM

How about Paul Newman with Cool Hand Luke and Butch Cassidy?

Subby 05-11-2010 01:41 PM

Travis Bickle and Jake LaMotta are pretty strong entries for Bobby D.

Sun Tzu 05-11-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuqua (Post 2281214)
Christian Bale might belong on the list in a few years if they continue on with the Terminators.


Nah...The Terminator will always be AHNULD


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