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Danny 06-30-2009 02:39 PM

I really do need more than one spot. With Poli not playing it is going to be harder to meet my post quota for this game.

hoopsguy 06-30-2009 02:41 PM

Danny, your 2nd role is "plutonium". Unfortunately, it is a non-posting role and it does not receive any PMs from the moderator. Not even a starting PM.

VOTE PLUTONIUM

Passacaglia 06-30-2009 02:57 PM


VOTE PLUTONIUM
VOTE NIGHTFALL

Passacaglia 06-30-2009 02:58 PM

This game is pretty easy so far.

Poli 06-30-2009 03:03 PM

VOTE PLUTONIUM

Just in case this counts.

Danny 06-30-2009 03:27 PM

Vote Damn moderation queue for new registration. Plutonium will have something to say about this soon!

hoopsguy 06-30-2009 03:27 PM

Hmm, I've seen who is the newest member at FOFC and I expect he is headed this way.

Barkeep49 06-30-2009 03:57 PM

Just in case it wasn't clear, since there are two GMs this game, hoops and I decided that we would be eligible to vote as well.

Vote plutonium

saldana 06-30-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2061982)
Bummer. If there was an interest in coming in as a replacement player upon your return I would love to slot you for that. For whatever reason, I find that my games usually need one before all is said and done.

thats because they last 4 weeks, and several people have strokes from trying to keep up with all the posts every single day

hoopsguy 06-30-2009 09:06 PM

I take some responsibility for the latter (game environments that foster high posting) but I really do try to accelerate the deaths enough so that the games don't run over two weeks. Heck, I don't want to moderate for that long!

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 07:06 AM

Had a very, very tough work day yesterday that prevented finishing up the rules. I'm looking to get the final version posted this evening at some point.

Poli 07-01-2009 01:17 PM

VOTE HOOPSGUY

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 01:22 PM

Poli, you may just end up with a worse role than Danny's secondary if you continue down this road.

nfg22 07-01-2009 02:10 PM

Vote Barkeep?

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 02:18 PM

I think that is a better play, but the other mod may disagree.

Danny 07-01-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2062696)
I think that is a better play, but the other mod may disagree.


You might want to rethink that as a better play. If BK gets voted out you have to do all the work yourself.

ntndeacon 07-01-2009 02:46 PM

ok I am in

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2062707)
You might want to rethink that as a better play. If BK gets voted out you have to do all the work yourself.


That is kind of an interesting point. The workload for this one is going to be very different than the Marvel games. Less math, less judgement calls, but the sheer coverage requirements for the mods in this game are going to be very high.

Barkeep49 07-01-2009 03:27 PM

Expect the rules to be up shortly.

Barkeep49 07-01-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2062726)
That is kind of an interesting point. The workload for this one is going to be very different than the Marvel games. Less math, less judgement calls, but the sheer coverage requirements for the mods in this game are going to be very high.

I think this post is just asking for nothing but trouble.

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 03:32 PM

Trouble = just asking for unexpected judgment calls to emerge?

Barkeep49 07-01-2009 03:35 PM

Yup.

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 03:37 PM

Eh - no "create a power" = not as many judgment calls. That was a crazy amount of work. Fun to try, fit the theme, but I'm not going to return to that mechanic anytime real soon.

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 03:42 PM

And rules are now in place. See Post #1.

Danny 07-01-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2062743)
And rules are now in place. See Post #1.


Sweet, game looks like a lot of fun! I hope we get the 25 players.

Autumn 07-01-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2062738)
Eh - no "create a power" = not as many judgment calls. That was a crazy amount of work. Fun to try, fit the theme, but I'm not going to return to that mechanic anytime real soon.


What?? But what about Doombots!!!

Danny 07-01-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2060975)
Additional Notes: all characters begin the game with the ability to sent up to four PMs per day to anyone in the game. This is in addition to any role-specific PM abilities (Conspiracy members can PM each other freely, for example). The moderators must be included on all PMs. Players are on the honor system to not send PMs above and beyond the set limit.

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This sounds especially cool

Autumn 07-01-2009 04:04 PM

Wow, I really like the rule set. This should be a lot of fun.

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2062750)
What?? But what about Doombots!!!


I would be stoked to play a game run by another moderator with this option :p

Passacaglia 07-01-2009 04:21 PM

There was math in the marvel game? I thought it was all just guesstimating :p

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 04:25 PM

Only when the math was too hard.

nfg22 07-01-2009 04:32 PM

Shouldnt the max number of players be 24?

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 04:37 PM

Technically, there is not a maximum number of players. But BK and I created 31 roles initially and the Conspirators are going to know about two that are not in the game. So we could potentially support 29 players with what we've put together up to this point. I would be pretty surprised if we have enough interest to fill 29 spots between now and Monday, however.

Oh, wait - you were just making a funny there. Right? Oops.

Tyrith 07-01-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2062767)
There was math in the marvel game? I thought it was all just guesstimating :p


No kidding, days 2-5 in that game we probably spent 90 minutes a day each adding and readding numbers to make sure we had it straight. Maybe more.

EagleFan 07-01-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2062743)
And rules are now in place. See Post #1.


I made it all the way to post 76 and now he wants me to go back to post 1?

vote hoops


:D

EagleFan 07-01-2009 06:18 PM

I'm going to have to relinquish my spot. After looking over the rules there is no way I will be able to find enough time, especially with no set deadlines.

It looks like it should be a fun game though. Good luck to all.

Poli 07-01-2009 06:19 PM

Honor system? Speak English, please.

hoopsguy 07-01-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2062816)
I'm going to have to relinquish my spot. After looking over the rules there is no way I will be able to find enough time, especially with no set deadlines.

It looks like it should be a fun game though. Good luck to all.


Just speaking towards this concern - and not to the availability of EagleFan - I do not think that the time commitment needs to be immense due to the real-time nature.

If your character has an action, it can be submitted whenever you are online. And you should see the results immediately, rather than having to check back in later after the standard day/night deadline. And then you can take your action again when it becomes available once more, after whatever time allotment is defined in the character PM.

If you have a vote to make, you don't have to try and get it in before a deadline. Make it when you are in the thread, when you are caught up on the reading, etc.

Now, is it really this simple? Well, my answer is that it can be. If someone has a lot of time they might find some greater advantages to the real-time element but I don't want to necessarily spell out all my thoughts on how this could play out before the game gets started.

Bottom line - I think that the lack of standard day/night deadlines could end up being more friendly to players with limited time than the rules in a conventional game. Similarly, I think these rules are likely to be more friendly to someone playing from a non EST/CST timezone.

I would be interested in hearing thoughts of others on this.

jeheinz72 07-02-2009 08:21 AM

I'm still thinking on this. I may just be out of town too much to play

DaddyTorgo 07-02-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2062841)
Just speaking towards this concern - and not to the availability of EagleFan - I do not think that the time commitment needs to be immense due to the real-time nature.

If your character has an action, it can be submitted whenever you are online. And you should see the results immediately, rather than having to check back in later after the standard day/night deadline. And then you can take your action again when it becomes available once more, after whatever time allotment is defined in the character PM.

If you have a vote to make, you don't have to try and get it in before a deadline. Make it when you are in the thread, when you are caught up on the reading, etc.

Now, is it really this simple? Well, my answer is that it can be. If someone has a lot of time they might find some greater advantages to the real-time element but I don't want to necessarily spell out all my thoughts on how this could play out before the game gets started.

Bottom line - I think that the lack of standard day/night deadlines could end up being more friendly to players with limited time than the rules in a conventional game. Similarly, I think these rules are likely to be more friendly to someone playing from a non EST/CST timezone.

I would be interested in hearing thoughts of others on this.



when you explained it to me this way the other day it eased some of my fears about it, so hopefully it does the same for others.

Passacaglia 07-02-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 2062801)
No kidding, days 2-5 in that game we probably spent 90 minutes a day each adding and readding numbers to make sure we had it straight. Maybe more.


To make sure we had what straight? Didn't we have a problem of not knowing anything about what our goals were, so we were just trying to guess at what a good amount was? Maybe I should re-read it, but it might enrage me too much.

hoopsguy 07-02-2009 10:18 AM

It was to make sure that Tyrith and I had calculated all the factors correctly in terms of attacks, defenses, and other variables that came into the "effective damage" which determined kills.

This game - with no Health, Energy, defensive powers, and variable attacks - is going to be much more standard werewolf than Marvel.

Passacaglia 07-02-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2063170)
It was to make sure that Tyrith and I had calculated all the factors correctly in terms of attacks, defenses, and other variables that came into the "effective damage" which determined kills.

This game - with no Health, Energy, defensive powers, and variable attacks - is going to be much more standard werewolf than Marvel.


Oh right, Tyrith was a mod -- I was thinking of it from a player's perspective.

saldana 07-02-2009 12:26 PM

i'm in.

Poli 07-02-2009 06:23 PM

Obligatory daily post.

hoopsguy 07-02-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli (Post 2063479)
Obligatory daily post.


So when are you going to break down and join the game?

Surely your team wants you to serve your country in some capacity?

The Jackal 07-02-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 2063491)
I don't think the carpet matches the drapes.


Oh, I think it does.

Barkeep49 07-02-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2063489)
So when are you going to break down and join the game?

Surely your team wants you to serve your country in some capacity?

Surely his team wants him to post a dynasty like he did last year.

Poli 07-02-2009 08:36 PM

I think I will be attending a different youth football camp held by former Ram and current HS head coach Mike Jones next week.

I will be managing a dynasty thread again this season.

Schmidty 07-02-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2063499)
Oh, I think it does.


Look at the roots, not the jugs. Definitely not a natural blond.

Not that I care, since I'm a redhead guy.


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