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dbd1963 03-22-2008 01:25 AM

I just read a post on the forum that advises paying your players enough so that they can train. Training costs go up with levels, so players should not sign long term contracts for little money.

It's a sticky in the "Players looking for teams" forum:

Quote:

After seeing a lot of guys sign long term contracts for minimal pay. I'm not going to point out names, or where, but I have seen a player signed long term for a really bad salary. I know there is a thread like this in TD, but this is for people who haven't seen played a game like CD or GLB before, where contracts mean a lot of things.

Here's the way training costs work in GLB.
Intense: 200 * level = cost per day
Normal: 75 * level = cost per day
Relaxed: 10 * level = cost per day.

Training is not dependent on player position. Everyone pays using the same formula, whether they are a QB or OT.

So basically, if the player, who can survive up until about level 2 or 3 on their current contract hits level 6 or 7, uh oh! Watch out, they can't improve as well! Instead, no more intense training unless they want to lose money. Now toss in the fact that they are signed for a really long time. Some managers will re-negotiate. Some will not because they say you agreed to the contract. So make sure the contract you sign is really what you want.

Originally posted by Statmonkey of TD

1. Check the forums to see if the offer is competitive
2. How long is the contract for can you live with the terms
3. Research the team - do they need you? Will you get playing time?
4. Find the manager and the team thread. Are they active? Do they have the same ideas as you?
5. Talk with the manager. What are his plans for you? Is his personality compatible? someone you can talk to?
6. Talk to current members of the team. Are they happy? do they like playing there?
7. Put all this together and decide if you like it


I quoted Statmonkey with slight modification basically because it all comes down to these 7. You can also check the rosters of other teams in the same league to see what is the norm.

Jed PMed this to me last season when discussing the contracts for his team this season. Several other teams follow the same principle.
Take how many levels you think your guy will be at the end of the season. Most of the time players won't be training at intense because of cost and energy issues, so Normal will be used.
So if level 15, it will be 1125 per day (75 * 15) . This means players will still make money over the course of the season when they are at a lower level, which allows them to buy any of the new things Bort is planning to add in the future like cars, houses and whatnot.

3ric 03-22-2008 01:33 AM

I'm Chris Whizz, a CB... just signed up and am unemployed (hint, hint)

larrymcg421 03-22-2008 01:36 AM

Okay, I'm offering contracts right now. Not sure what the numbers should look like, but I'm basically offering everyone a bit of a raise with a bit of a signing bonus. I'm also cutting the expensive CPU players, especially the ones duplicated at positions FOFC'ers will be taking.

21C 03-22-2008 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 1689251)

Updated the first post. Too bad I can't see a way of transfering the points I had from referals so far.

Crim 03-22-2008 01:40 AM

I'm so a Silverback. Sacramento United is fucked in 37 hours.

21C 03-22-2008 01:40 AM

CB Richard Southwell is signed on.

I see a potential dynasty thread in all of this.

dbd1963 03-22-2008 01:40 AM

Why not buy a team too, 21C? There's going to be a lot of folks playing this, I predict..

Sorry I didn't hit your referral. See, what had happened was.. I didn't think I was going to play until I went and read about it, then I forgot.. You know you're in my heart for finding the game, though, right?

Radii 03-22-2008 01:44 AM

we have too many QBs it looks like for one team! looks like you're sutck with me kicking for now though ;)

Yellow5 03-22-2008 01:49 AM

Just accepted my offer. I'm a power back so make sure we have someone speedy. I also have a kicker named Alexander Thunder if we need another kicker.

larrymcg421 03-22-2008 02:05 AM

Start improving your players as best you can. Looks like we'll have some interesting position battles.

If you don't want to worry about being a backup, then create someone at a position that hasn't been taken yet. I guarantee an FOFC'er gets a starting spot over any CPU player.

Izulde 03-22-2008 02:09 AM

Signed on and I intend to be Grand Junction's starting QB.

JHandley 03-22-2008 02:10 AM

I accepted the offer.

Based on what points we were able to allocate, I think my speed is fairly decent for a starting player, so I'm working on catching now.

Izulde 03-22-2008 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbd1963 (Post 1689218)
Tank Basterson, QB Odessa Fire. Scheduled to start!

This looks like it will be fun..


How did you get a lvl 4 QB already?

dbd1963 03-22-2008 02:11 AM

Checked my messages and I took the offer. Thanks larrymcg421! I don't mind whether I start or not. I'm a team player. Go Silverbacks!

dbd1963 03-22-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1689268)
How did you get a lvl 4 QB already?


I bribed the programmers.

EDIT: I'm only partly being a smart ass. You can buy points to spend on your player. It cost me about $12 for all the upgrades I got. You can only get so much each season though.

larrymcg421 03-22-2008 02:29 AM

Here is the list of FOFC players in this game:


QB Randall McManus (Easglesfan27)
QB Tim Moungey (Izulde) - Signed
QB Biff Chuckington (FBPro)
QB Tank Basterson (dbd1963) - Signed

RB Johnny Thunder (Yellow5) - Signed
RB Joey Flabbus (jaygr)

WR Alex Donovan (SirFozzie)
WR Roger Duhnam (JHandley) - Signed
WR Pork Chop Steinberg (Shkspr)

TE Hawk McGawk (hawk4669)

C Mr. Trout (Apathetic Lurker)
G Max Protect (gkb)
T Funyun Johnson (Bad-example)

DE Michael Szur (Quiksand)
DT Alan T (Alan T)


MLB Crim Bronco (Crim) - Signed
LB Sabotai Bagatur (sabotai) - Signed
LB Ryan Omark (JetsIn06)
LB Sam Jolley (rjolley)

CB Jake Weston (Cork)
CB Chris Whizz (3ric)
CB Richard Southwell (21C) - Signed

FS DeMarcus Lott (TazFTW)
FS Semi Truck (MikeVic)

SS Tabasco Ted Hopper (MrDNA)
SS DJ McGilvery (kurtism)

K Idjit Kicker (Radii)
K Alexander Thunder (Yellow5)

gkb 03-22-2008 02:51 AM

I didn't see any guards so I created one...

G Max Protect

dbd1963 03-22-2008 02:57 AM

Ohhhh.. Max Protect, you are Tank Basterson's new best friend!

gkb 03-22-2008 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbd1963 (Post 1689278)
Ohhhh.. Max Protect, you are Tank Basterson's new best friend!


LOL. Probably would've been a better name for a OT...I'm not great at coming up with names. Maybe I should've named him Pancake or something...

Apathetic Lurker 03-22-2008 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 1689272)
Here is the list of FOFC players in this game:


QB Randall McManus (Easglesfan27)
QB Tim Moungey (Izulde) - Signed
QB Biff Chuckington (FBPro)
QB Tank Basterson (dbd1963) - Signed

RB Johnny Thunder (Yellow5) - Signed
RB Joey Flabbus (jaygr)

WR Alex Donovan (SirFozzie)
WR Roger Duhnam (JHandley) - Signed
WR Pork Chop Steinberg (Shkspr)

TE Hawk McGawk (hawk4669)

C Mr. Trout (Apathetic Lurker)
G Max Protect (gkb)
T Funyun Johnson (Bad-example)

DE Michael Szur (Quiksand)
DT Alan T (Alan T)


MLB Crim Bronco (Crim) - Signed
LB Sabotai Bagatur (sabotai) - Signed
LB Ryan Omark (JetsIn06)
LB Sam Jolley (rjolley)

CB Jake Weston (Cork)
CB Chris Whizz (3ric)
CB Richard Southwell (21C) - Signed

FS DeMarcus Lott (TazFTW)
FS Semi Truck (MikeVic)

SS Tabasco Ted Hopper (MrDNA)
SS DJ McGilvery (kurtism)

K Idjit Kicker (Radii)
K Alexander Thunder (Yellow5)


Actually I just call him Mr Trout.... his real name is Horace Trout...

IMetTrentGreen 03-22-2008 05:44 AM

DT Balhaire De La Rosa of the Paris Eagles.

I want to be a big fat NT and level up that skill to make the rest of the Dline better. That should be fun.

3ric 03-22-2008 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkb (Post 1689279)
LOL. Probably would've been a better name for a OT...I'm not great at coming up with names. Maybe I should've named him Pancake or something...


There's a QB named Pancake in one of my MP leagues. Brant Pancake. :)

WVUFAN 03-22-2008 06:53 AM

My character is Robert DeMinas, Level 4 LB

Sublime 2 03-22-2008 08:04 AM

Damien Arthur FA DE.

Alan T 03-22-2008 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMetTrentGreen (Post 1689286)
DT Balhaire De La Rosa of the Paris Eagles.

I want to be a big fat NT and level up that skill to make the rest of the Dline better. That should be fun.


Exactly the same type as I did. :) Looks like I'm going to have competition for my job!

rjolley 03-22-2008 09:48 AM

Just signed my contract.

Suit me up, coach!

larrymcg421 03-22-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1689310)
Exactly the same type as I did. :) Looks like I'm going to have competition for my job!


We'll be playing a 4-3, so you should be fine.

larrymcg421 03-22-2008 09:53 AM

Guys, make sure you set it so your abilities aren't hidden from me.

dbd1963 03-22-2008 10:00 AM

You can make them viewable to all players on the team too, which I did. It's cool to see other guys abilities.

sachmo71 03-22-2008 10:07 AM

QB Hank Twiney is playing in Sevastapol. I need to move somewhere warmer.

Eaglesfan27 03-22-2008 10:27 AM

I just signed my contract and bought some new equipment.

Passacaglia 03-22-2008 10:33 AM

FB Pass Acaglia looking for a team.

Ben E Lou 03-22-2008 10:46 AM

CB Ben Lewis

Mustang 03-22-2008 10:56 AM

WR Flash Flynn looking for a team. (lvl 4)

TazFTW 03-22-2008 11:24 AM

FS DeMarcus Lott has signed the contract.

duckman 03-22-2008 11:38 AM

SS Kevin Heath

MikeVic 03-22-2008 11:45 AM

Yeah we might need another team. :)

MikeVic 03-22-2008 11:49 AM

You have to worry about salaries and all that right? So I don't think you would sign every FOFCer created. Say we have 4 QBs... I think you'd sign at most 3 of them?

Ben E Lou 03-22-2008 12:03 PM

I'd suggest letting Larry figure out if he can afford to sign most/all of the FOFCers first. It turns out that I had some cash sitting in my PayPal account, so I went ahead and bought some flex points with it. I have enough to buy a team if it's needed.

Ben E Lou 03-22-2008 12:04 PM

Dola: So as a result, CB Ben Lewis is now Level 4. :D

DanGarion 03-22-2008 12:09 PM

Kicker, Daniel Schoonover at your service. With all the upgrades a rookie can have.

twothree 03-22-2008 12:59 PM

T Maple Syrup created. (Level 4)

He was a guard, but I noticed you already had two human guards signed. So, I retired him, and created a right side run blocking tackle instead.

Edit: I took a contract with the CPU team, New Hampshire Mustangs (USA, A, Eastern), since they have a game today in about an hour. And, I figure I can earn some experience points while waiting for a contract offer from the Grand Junction Silverbacks. The CPU team put me in as their starting LT.

Emiliano 03-22-2008 01:06 PM

I'm in as LB Emiliano Zapata.

:D

digamma 03-22-2008 01:25 PM

DE Sven Williams

jaygr 03-22-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow5 (Post 1689263)
Just accepted my offer. I'm a power back so make sure we have someone speedy. I also have a kicker named Alexander Thunder if we need another kicker.



My back (Joey Flabbus) was built as a powerback as well. I noticed you have him at lvl 4 (so I assuming you bought some points) so I don't mind starting a new guy before we get too involved if we would not want two power guys, although I prefer to be one. I'd still rather do what is best for the team though.

What do you guys think?

hawk4669 03-22-2008 01:48 PM

Just signed my contract with Grand Junction and bought some new equipment. Hope to be a solid blocking TE first with a later emphasis on good hands. Who needs speed, etc. ;)

Cheers!

larrymcg421 03-22-2008 02:40 PM

I do have enough money to sign most everyone, but it's true that it doesn't make sense to sign 5 QB's.

We do have an excess of QB's, LB's, Kickers and WR's. It might be a good idea to start another team so some people aren't stuck as backups.

I'll list the initial starting lineup tonight.

dbd1963 03-22-2008 03:00 PM

The team we were going to play, Sacramento United, was bought and has become the Hawaii Five Os. They have already signed some better players too.

If you want to scout them, go here:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=76

Ben E Lou 03-22-2008 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 1689483)
I do have enough money to sign most everyone, but it's true that it doesn't make sense to sign 5 QB's.

We do have an excess of QB's, LB's, Kickers and WR's. It might be a good idea to start another team so some people aren't stuck as backups.

I'll list the initial starting lineup tonight.


You tryin' to lowball a brutha???



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dbd1963 03-22-2008 03:03 PM

From what I understand, none of us are going to have the stamina to play a whole game. I've been trawling the forums all morning and I've learned that a lot of people will put most of their skill points into stamina because that will keep them in the games, allowing them to gain valuable experience. I've read that at level 4 you want to have a stamina at least in the 20 range. My guy has a 17 or so. There's no way he's going to play a whole game no matter what.

5 QBs would seem to be pushing it, though. None of the players would get the amount of experience you want.


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