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Fidatelo 10-03-2007 03:14 PM

What happened to Toskala? Hurt?

bbor 10-03-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 1561682)
What happened to Toskala? Hurt?


Coaches decision.

Maple Leafs 10-03-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 1561682)
What happened to Toskala? Hurt?

After spending some time playing behind the Leafs defence, he peeled his own skin off. He's listed as day-to-day.

Pumpy Tudors 10-03-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1561656)
So just so we're clear, the Leafs will open the season with a lineup that features exactly one player who wasn't in the lineup last year. One. We missed the playoffs last year, in case you were wondering. One.

So yes, I can't imagine why JFJ isn't getting that extension he wants. He's clearly working his butt off.

At least you're in midseason form. :D

Fidatelo 10-03-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor (Post 1561696)
Coaches decision.



Seriously? Holy crap that's not good if Raycroft is beating him out for opening day...

Fidatelo 10-03-2007 04:42 PM

Dola... I hope someone in my hockey pool doesn't hear about this before friday's draft, I can't wait to mock him to high-heaven when he drafts Toskala 15 rounds too soon.

Maple Leafs 10-03-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 1561762)
Dola... I hope someone in my hockey pool doesn't hear about this before friday's draft, I can't wait to mock him to high-heaven when he drafts Toskala 15 rounds too soon.

Basically, when the deal went down the Leafs said it was an open competition even though nobody really believed it. It was assumed that Toskala would win the job, but then he was awful in the pre-season and Raycroft was decent. So now they've painted themselves into a bit of a corner, and they've decided to start Raycroft tonight and Toskala tomorrow in Ottawa.

It's not a bad decision, since a.) Raycroft did earn the job, and b.) there's at least a 60% chance the Sens will bomb the Leafs 7-1 tonight and the fans will turn on whoever's in net, so might as well be the guy they already hate instead of the new guy.

I still expect Toskala to be the main guy sooner than later and get 55 or so starts.

Fidatelo 10-03-2007 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1561763)
I still expect Toskala to be the main guy sooner than later and get 55 or so starts.


So you're saying my new strategy should be to submarine his value by telling everyone Raycroft is the starter or at best they are platooning, then pick him up as a solid back-up in the late rounds.

I like it.

Pyser 10-03-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor (Post 1561636)
What's the Over/Under on when Lou comes in to take over the Devils bench?


ill take at least 150.

Draft Dodger 10-03-2007 07:02 PM

and hey, really great to have one of the 2 early games on CI broadcast in French.

I'm sure the 9 hockey fans in the US who speak French only are very grateful.

Dr. Sak 10-03-2007 07:43 PM

Two minutes into the 2nd period of the Ott/Tor game and Pierre McGuire reminds me why I hate him so much...

Logan 10-03-2007 08:04 PM

I love Free NHL Center Ice time.

Wolfpack 10-03-2007 09:41 PM

*sigh* New year, same result. Still can't win in OT/SO as Canes drop the home opener 3-2 against Montreal in OT. Not the best of starts considering Carolina will be out of town for most of October. They get Pittsburgh at home Friday, but then go on the road for six straight after that including complete tours of eastern Canada and Pennsylvania. With such a lack of home games to start with, it wa essential to take advantage of the two they had to start with to build up any momentum at all. Now that they've dropped one, it's going to put a lot of early pressure to win Friday or the Canes could be digging out of an early hole by the time they come home for most of November.

Maple Leafs 10-03-2007 10:15 PM

Hey, does anyone know how many games Heatley has played against Toronto, and how many goals he has in those games? I'm really surprised that TSN never mentioned it.

Chief Rum 10-03-2007 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack (Post 1562103)
*sigh* New year, same result. Still can't win in OT/SO as Canes drop the home opener 3-2 against Montreal in OT. Not the best of starts considering Carolina will be out of town for most of October. They get Pittsburgh at home Friday, but then go on the road for six straight after that including complete tours of eastern Canada and Pennsylvania. With such a lack of home games to start with, it wa essential to take advantage of the two they had to start with to build up any momentum at all. Now that they've dropped one, it's going to put a lot of early pressure to win Friday or the Canes could be digging out of an early hole by the time they come home for most of November.


If it makes you feel better, losing shootouts seems to be a Stanley Cup champion trend.

Maple Leafs 10-03-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1562157)
If it makes you feel better, losing shootouts seems to be a Stanley Cup champion trend.

No... no, it's really not.

Signed,
Leaf fans

JonInMiddleGA 10-03-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1562135)
Hey, does anyone know how many games Heatley has played against Toronto, and how many goals he has in those games? I'm really surprised that TSN never mentioned it.


Lemme see here, ESPN player bio, split stats
07-08 2G/1A in 1 game (1 GWG)
06-07 5G/5A in 8 games (1 GWG)
05-06, 9G/9A in 9 games (1 GWG)
Ottawa sub-total = 16 goals/15 assists in 18 games (3 GWG)
03-04, 1G/0A in 2 games
02-03, 1G/1A in 2 games
01-02, 4G/3A in 4 games (2 GWG)
Atlanta sub-total = 6 goals/4 assists in 8 games (2 GWG)
Career to date = 22 goals/19 assists in 26 games (5 GWG)

That's an average of 0.85 gpg / 1.58 ppg vs Toronto
Vs the rest of the league, he gets 0.48 gpg / 1.07 ppg
(158 goals/190 assists in 326 games)

Logan 10-03-2007 11:41 PM

I sensed sarcasm.

JonInMiddleGA 10-04-2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1562195)
I sensed sarcasm.


Oopsie. 'Twas lost on me as I wasn't anywhere near a TV during the game (and most likely wouldn't have seen/heard the TSN feed anyway)

Logan 10-04-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1562206)
Oopsie. 'Twas lost on me as I wasn't anywhere near a TV during the game (and most likely wouldn't have seen/heard the TSN feed anyway)


No worries. When Maple Leafs discusses the Toronto Maple Leafs, a player dominating the Toronto Maple Leafs, and shitty Canadian TV, he tends to get a little snarky.

MizzouRah 10-04-2007 08:22 AM

Blues - Coyotes tonight!

Draft Dodger 10-04-2007 10:25 AM

Paul Stastny was marvelous last night as he notched his first career hat trick. He had a great game defensively as well.

any fantasy players out there, here's a tip. Jaroslav Hlinka is a 30-year old rookie from the Czech Republic (I believe he led his league in scoring last year). The Avs signed him this summer to a $600k contract, and was a mostly unknown to everyone here.

He had a strong preseason, and looked excellent last night. He's playing with Stastny at the moment, so should have a chance to put up some nice numbers. Might be worth a look...

Dr. Sak 10-04-2007 10:38 AM

For Fantasy i used my last round draft pick to pick up Peter Forsberg. I then put him on IR and picked up Andrew Burnette who had 3 assists last night. Oh yea, I also drafted Stastny in the 4th round. So good night for me!

Draft Dodger 10-04-2007 03:07 PM

The Wings were about 2,500 below capacity last night (an end sellout streak going back to 1996). The Avs were about 500 under capacity, the first time they haven't sold out a home opener since coming to Denver. They had an even longer sellout streak than Detroit's end last year.

but hey, we've got a foothold in England!

Maple Leafs 10-04-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger (Post 1562713)
The Wings were about 2,500 below capacity last night (an end sellout streak going back to 1996). The Avs were about 500 under capacity, the first time they haven't sold out a home opener since coming to Denver. They had an even longer sellout streak than Detroit's end last year.

I'd assume those people were just busy lining up to buy the cool new jerseys.

bbor 10-04-2007 09:08 PM

I did enjoy the new Sens uni's.Very european.

Logan 10-04-2007 09:21 PM

I didn't enjoy the Flyers...I mean, Panthers new unis.

Dr. Sak 10-04-2007 09:28 PM

Briere scores on his 2nd shift as a Flyer!

Bea-Arthurs Hip 10-05-2007 08:40 AM

Anyone see anything on the NHL Network?

Co-worker told me Direct TV was to launch it Oct 1st . I have looked the past few nights for it with no luck.

Honolulu_Blue 10-05-2007 09:50 AM

Here's a picture of Havlat at a Chicago-area comic store:


MizzouRah 10-07-2007 08:46 AM

Nice comeback by the Blues tonight down 3-1 to the Kings!

I have 7th row tickets for the home opener Wednesday!!!

JonInMiddleGA 10-07-2007 09:36 AM

I'm starting to wonder if Atlanta really doesn't even hold training camp or pre-season games, that the news & results from there are just some sort of ruse.

Outshot 34-15 last night (5-2 loss @ TB), outshot 40-29 in the 3-1 loss at home to Washington, at least 3 different centers have played with Kovy in the first six periods. Multiple comments from players about how they just have to get used to working with each other since there's so many new faces, etc.

WTF have they been doing for the past couple of months, just going through the motions?

Suburban Rhythm 10-07-2007 03:41 PM

Pens twice score 2 quick goals last night.
2nd period, 20 seconds apart-- Colby Armstrong on a ridiculous chance that looked like something Crosby would try, and Malkin on the doorstep from Sykora.

3rd period - Petr Sykora (his 2nd of the night) and Ryan Malone alone from the blueline in after Crosby dives to make a pass between Pronger's skates.

Of course, like last year, Pens allowed Anaheim to come back and make it close at the end, but win 5-4

Wolfpack 10-07-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1564639)
I'm starting to wonder if Atlanta really doesn't even hold training camp or pre-season games, that the news & results from there are just some sort of ruse.

Outshot 34-15 last night (5-2 loss @ TB), outshot 40-29 in the 3-1 loss at home to Washington, at least 3 different centers have played with Kovy in the first six periods. Multiple comments from players about how they just have to get used to working with each other since there's so many new faces, etc.

WTF have they been doing for the past couple of months, just going through the motions?


Meh. Washington actually looks a little more serious about playing hockey this year. Carolina rolled the Pens 4-1 Friday, but couldn't touch Kolzig last night in a 2-0 loss. Don't judge the Washington loss too quickly.

The Canes are 1-1-1 through three, but the next five on the road (Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Pittsburgh, and Philly--the last two as a back-to-back) will be a good measure of whether this year will be like last year or two years ago. Anything over .500 and I think this team will be doing alright. Could actually be the toughest road stretch they face since the Southeast is at the Central this year, which means no west coast swing and the Central outside of Detroit and perhaps Nashville is still a muddle (not that the Southeast is any sort of powerhouse). Examining the schedule, I think perhaps the only other swing that may provide greater difficulty is in early December starting at Buffalo on 12/1, then the Rangers, Bolts, Habs, and ending up in Detroit on the 9th. I think this one they're on now is more difficult simply because it's so early in the season.

JonInMiddleGA 10-07-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack (Post 1565224)
Don't judge the Washington loss too quickly.


It's not so much the loss, it's the manner of losing. I mean, they hung the freakin' banner on Friday for crying out loud, the least they could do is show up & be competitive. And outshot 74-44 in the opening weekend doesn't seem competitive, I don't care if they're playing the ghosts of the Montreal greats and the All-Time CCCP All-Stars.

Hartley may not make it to the All-Star break.

RPI-Fan 10-08-2007 12:10 AM

my islanders looking good in early season

Pumpy Tudors 10-08-2007 07:39 AM

The Devils just happen to have many of their early games at times that I can't watch them. At least I see that they won 4-1 the other night. I'll periodically check this afternoon's score online, but I wish I were at home to see it. Then I think they play again on Thursday, which just happens to be a bowling night for me, so I won't be home for that. It'll be a while before I get to watch my favorite team play. *sigh*

Maple Leafs 10-08-2007 10:35 AM

Jason Blake has announced he has a rare form of cancer...
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=220161&hubname=

He says it shouldn't affect his ability to play and is treatable/manageable in the long-term, which is certainly good news.

Pyser 10-08-2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1565296)
The Devils just happen to have many of their early games at times that I can't watch them. At least I see that they won 4-1 the other night. I'll periodically check this afternoon's score online, but I wish I were at home to see it. Then I think they play again on Thursday, which just happens to be a bowling night for me, so I won't be home for that. It'll be a while before I get to watch my favorite team play. *sigh*


you wont even recognize them. its a pretty different style of play so far.

Pyser 10-09-2007 02:39 PM

i stand by my "San Jose Dolphins" comment in the off-season thread, and see bucci has agreed:

2. Jeremy and those jerseys
Upon further review, the San Jose Sharks are wearing arguably the ugliest uniforms in any team sport in the history of team sports. When Art Howe was wearing a polyester Houston Astros uniform in the Astrodome circa 1981, maybe that was the worst; but that is hotly debatable because Howe was so hot in '81. When I see these Sharks uniforms on television, I think I'm watching a skit from "Full House" in which Joey Gladstone goes five-hole on a stumbling Uncle Jesse. These Sharks are so 1991, so "Yo! MTV Raps." "Everybody dance now!" These things need to be put into a dumpster, set on fire and rolled down a mountain as soon as possible. Then again, maybe that's why Jeremy Roenick is off to a good start. He thinks it's actually 1991.

Draft Dodger 10-09-2007 02:48 PM

well, that explains it. I love the rainbow Astro unis.

Wolfpack 10-09-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack (Post 1565224)
The Canes are 1-1-1 through three, but the next five on the road (Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Pittsburgh, and Philly--the last two as a back-to-back) will be a good measure of whether this year will be like last year or two years ago.


So far, so good as the Canes rock Toronto 7-1. Nice bounceback from the blanking at Washington Saturday. Kinda wish I'd have been able to see it, but family obligations kept me out of the house and away from the TV. Hope they can keep this ball rolling as they head over to Ottawa.

DeToxRox 10-09-2007 09:47 PM

At least JFJ has built a consistent club

Maple Leafs 10-09-2007 09:52 PM

The Toronto fans are turning on this team very fast. Booed them through most of the third period, even Toskala who actually was great (which is scary when you look at the score).

Highlight was McCabe picking up the puck in his own end, getting booed, skating behind the net at full speed and tripping it over it, wiping himself out as he sent a perfect centering pass to a Cane. Toskala bailed him out or else the Leaf fans would have stormed the ice and eaten his heart.

Chief Rum 10-10-2007 02:41 AM

Wednesday night, 11 days after they started the season, in their sixth game and first within two time zones of home, the Ducks will finally raise their 2006-07 Stanley Cup Champion banner.

I'm looking forward to it.

bbor 10-10-2007 10:32 AM

I agree with ML...Toskala has been great.Without him the score could have been in double didgits last night,and to tell the truth it was'nt even cause the Canes played that well....it was more so because the Leafs played so bad.

I can't figure out why all the pundits say the Leafs are deep on the blueline.I actually think this is the biggest weakness on the team.They have a bunch of 4-6 defencman on the team.IMHO the Leafs need to pick up a stablizing defensive guy.

Travis 10-10-2007 10:32 AM

First meeting of the season between the Oilers and the Wild. The Oilers, in an "attempt" to add some toughness to the lineup recall J.F. Jacques and insert him in the lineup for Marc Pouliot.

Call it a hunch, but I'm guessing Hemsky is still going to have a little chat with Nilsson, Cogliano and Gagner and warn them that when the lights suddenly go out that it's not a power outage, so don't look around, that it's time to duck and cover because Boogaard is *right* behind you.

For those keeping track at home, here's the projected matchup(s):

Boogaard (6'7, 258)
vs
Jacques (6'4, 225)
or
Greene (6'3, 233)
or
Souray (6'4, 233)
or
Staios (6'1, 200)/Torres (6'0, 215)

Yeah, the tag team approach didn't work well last year either. Best bet is to score 2 or 3 in the first and force them to try and play catchup to limit Boogaard's ice time. Even then, boys are going to have to have their heads on a swivel or the injury streak may continue.

Chief Rum 10-11-2007 12:11 AM

Well, it was emotional and thrilling, as you would expect a banner raising to be. The cheers were huge and the ceremony well done. We had a last long look at the Cup. And when Teemu and Scotty were introduced, the arena rocked to "One more year!" as the two of them kinda grinned sheepishly. Come on, guys, rush out to the mike and say "We're coming back!" lol

We also did something I thought I was really cool, although obviously imitated from those Canadian folks. The crowd sang the second verse of the anthem, a tradition they are trying to get going here. Not as loud as the Canadians in Edmonton or Calgary perhaps, but give it time.

Then we had a nice 2-1 comeback win, in which one of our playoff heroes Sammy Pahlsson came back from hernia surgery to be a key player tonight.

All in all, a tremendous evening for the franchise, and solid step toward trying to win a new one.

BishopMVP 10-11-2007 12:25 AM

Dirty hit by Boulirice tonight... he'll be missing some time. Flyers look good otherwise, beating Vancouver 8-2.

Chief Rum 10-11-2007 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 1567491)
Dirty hit by Boulirice tonight... he'll be missing some time. Flyers look good otherwise, beating Vancouver 8-2.


Damn, 8-2! Was Luongo in? Or did Toronto lend the Nucks Toskala?


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