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Fedor's already beaten Cro Cop once before. The guy is just an absolute monster. |
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Rampage doesn't have what it takes mentaly to beat Chuck. Promoted right, I think Coutre vs Cro Crop could top 1 Million buys pretty easily. |
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I enjoyed what I saw initially from UFC, though I will admit I don't watch as much as I used to. I showed a buddy and he got really hooked, and he did a little research and found out about Pride and together we watched some of the fights over the weekend while my daughter was sick. I liked it more because it was less about grappling and more about winning. I was started to get bored with all the grappling bouts without any submission attempts. I also liked it because it was more offense, less defense. Some bouts the figthers just kept their hands down (never good in any fight), so it was always a hair away from knockouts. I'm not sure if it'll be a good thing, yes some of the Pride fighters are really good, but I like the fact that it was rather unsantized and not really for the American market. We'll just have to wait and see. |
I really really hate to see the Pride ruleset changed, that's the biggest downside to this and I definitely see it as a negative and not a positive. I'm not sure what I think of this, I guess if the alternative was Pride going under I'm for it, but otherwise I'm not so sure.
I love Rampage, I do think Rampage can beat Chuck, but I also think he's not ready. Hell Rampage doesn't act like he thinks he can at this time. He wanted some more tune ups, and he got rejected. I think they're wasting this one. I'll be pulling for him though. Pretty sad to hear this, I hope they keep them separated to a large degree and stick to this one big supercard a year or so. The bright side is maybe Shogun vs. Chuck, Fedor/Cro cop II obviously, and some other great possibilities. We'll see how it pans out I guess. |
Rampage destroyed Chuck in the PRIDE LHW GP a couple years ago. He can beat him, trust me.
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Was going to type this but Jeff beat me to it. Rampage is no joke and shouldn't be considered one. He has beaten Chuck once, Chuck is the one with something to prove. |
Ouch. UFC's looking to KO' Elite XC in the courts:
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I should add, I'm quite aware that Rampage beat Chuck and beat him rather soundly, but I also think they're VASTLY different fighters now then they were 3 years ago.
Rampage has without doubt lost an edge, after being annihilated by Silva and Shogun he just really lost that killer instinct, and I think a couple of tune up wins would go a long way towards gaining that back. I do think he's a bad match-up for Chuck and the best stand-up guy I can remember Chuck fighting in God knows how long. I'm all for him winning, and I think he can, I just don't think he's in the right state of mind now to do it. I hope I'm wrong. |
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I agree completely with Calis. Anyone judging Rampage on his fight vs. Chuck several years ago is misleading themselves. After the two brutal beatings he took from Wandy, and another one from Shogun he hasn't been the same fighter. Watch his Don Yon Sik (or whatever his name was fight). In the meantime Chuck has gotten better if anything. I also was more a fan of the Pride rules as opposed to UFC so I'm sad to see those go. One rule I hope they keep (we'll see) is the yellow card rule. If someone is just stalling and not trying to finish the fight (you hear me Koshceck and O'brien) the ref gives them a yellow card which docks them 10% of their pay and is used in judging criteria. Good rule IMO, along with knees on the ground, and no elbows (which lead to too many cuts). |
I just got tickets to UFC 71 (Liddell vs. Jackson) in Vegas. I'm pretty stoked.
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Damn! This is from the EliteXC co-sponsored show (promoted by Icon Sports) in Hawaii Last Night, the main event, Robbie Lawler vs Frank Trigg
First two of the last four punch combo? Sweet as hell. Third Punch? Barely excusable. Fourth Punch? Um... No. |
Got this from over at Sherdog
"As the referee jumped in to stop the fight, Lawler caught the prone Trigg with another right hook. "If it was Niko (Vitale) I wouldn't have done that, because Niko's the man and he has respect," Lawler said. "Trigg has no respect."" Pretty awful. Sounds like he's pretty clearly saying he knew that Trigg was already KO'ed, that's inexcusable if true. The ref should've been in there sooner though, it's up to him to put a clamp on that quickly. I also just read that Don Frye vs. James Thompson has been added to the next Pride card. Man, they're forming up a real crap show for their final one. Although I do find myself strangely excited for the Zulu vs. Butterbean fight, and I'm ashamed. |
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Lawler's always been a bit of a hot head, but he had no business throwing that last punch. Ultimately though what the heck was the ref watching? As soon as he slumped (if not sooner) he should have been in there. That next Pride card blows. It's pretty much like the Ferrettas said don't waste any major talent on your final show before we take over, so that we can control all the money matches. I'm taking Butterbean though, and James Thompson in an upset. |
Man, I don't think Thompson over Frye is an upset really, have you seen Frye lately? I love the guy and he was a helluva fighter but he's done. He's looked real sluggish and out of shape the last couple times he has fought. It'll be a slugfest either way though.
So, what about this weekend's UFC? I thought it sucked, but after seeing Pride's card I think it sucks a little less. The main event is a joke, GSP vs. Serra is a horrible match. This one is not even close. There's a couple interesting undercard fights though. Swick vs. Okami actually interests me, they've both been looking pretty good lately and it could end up being a very good fight. I'll give the nod to Okami though, I'd love to see him up against Silva. Diego vs. Koscheck is another one people are interested in, but I'm not so much. I can't stand either of the guys, and Koscheck on a PPV makes me sad. He takes the boredom of an Arona fight and subracts about 75% of the talent. He's effective though, so he might have a shot, I guess it's for the TUF fans. Curious to see if Herring can bounce back and at least show SOMETHING. While his time has passed, he's usually at least entertaining. He can't do worse than his last outing. |
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I just figured Frye would be a favorite due to his name/past, but while I haven't seen his recent fights I heard it's not pretty. Then again, Thompson is the biggest sissy puncher I've ever seen (don't tell that to Yoshida though). I actually think the UFN card on Thursday is almost as good as the UFC card on Saturday (and that's not a good thing). I'm looking to Diego cleaning Koscheck's clock. I like GSP, but I don't see much of a match there. Okami's a good matchup for Swick. But if Herring can't get past Imes, he may as well hang it up. Looking forward to Guillard vs. Stevenson though. |
The Chute-Box site now lists Silva vs. Igor Vovchanchyn for Pride 34.
The card starts being a little more interesting. |
Wow. 28 Minutes in and there's a new record for "TUF Fighters Foz Wishes he could punch in the face, without repercussions"
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Damn, the guy I hated the most is gone already (I saw another of his fights, he was an absolute dick)
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You hated the crabshack dude? Seems like they could find someone for the show more qualified than a guy that's faught a few times part time to promote his restaurant. I'm surpised he didn't come to the ring with a Lobster shack shirt on or something. |
Yeah, he fought on a Real Fighting Championships card that was later televised on SUN network, and well, he was an absolute dick. (I think that's why he was invited on to the show)
Looks like this show has an overdose of the crazy already, just from this week and looking at next week's preview |
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No doubt. We have the 6'4 inch 155lb wacko dog imitator, Nate Diaz (crazy just by his lineage), Jens who seems oddly bipolar, and Manny (Karo's cousin) who apparently goes bezerk in the previews. Not to mention Ruediger who went from loud mouth, to chubby kid, to cry baby all within the space of one episode. WTF? |
wait wait...i missed the UFC buying Pride thing
can we rewind??!?! WTF! just brings us one step closer to Fedor taking over the world! |
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Technically the Ferretta brothers bought Pride, but yes it opens up the MMA Superbowl possibilities. As for Fedor, that's another story. Depending on which rumors you believe Fedor may/may not be still under contract to Pride and may/may not have signed a multi-fight deal with Bodog. |
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HA! I shoulda bet one of my coworkers that Kos was gonna beat Diego :). And holy crap is right when it comes to the main event result :) |
Koscheck and Sanchez did not live up to the hype. Very boring.
It was pretty shocking how Serra dismantled St Pierre. |
Am I seeing things, or did ESPN show UFC highlights this morning? WTF?
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Agree and agree.... The fight of the Night for me was the Huerta/Garcia bout. Those two went at it like Griffin and Bonner for 3 rounds. Though Huerta won decisively, Garcia is a tough SOB....would love to see a rematch, especially if Garcia had more time to train. |
So as for the last ever DSE run Pride event.
Went out rather poorly I think. The fights weren't that bad, but getting there was horrific. Pride was usually all about the fights, one right after the other and this one dragged on. Extremely awkward "witty" banter between Frank Trigg and Coleman/Randleman, and watching the Coleman vs. Igor fight what seemed like 8 times. It was bad. The fights. This Sokoujuwhatever character is starting to look like he could be a very real threat. It's still very hard to tell because we've seen him fight twice and for a total of about 3 minutes I think, if that. In that time he's beat Little Nog and Arona though, and in doing has showed some very heavy hands, and excellent takedown defense, it ain't easy to stop an Arona takedown like he did. He's just 22 as well, so this guy could be Shogun II. I want to see him in a little longer fight before I say for sure on this guy, but it looks good. Frye vs. Thompson was about what was expected, Frye letting himself get pummeled. I think he could've literally stood there all night taking those shots from Thompson, which has to make Thompson feel pretty weak. Frye needs to stop though, he's taken way too many shots. The amount of times he apologized after the fight got pretty creepy as well, started to sound like a suicide note. Fujita vs. Monson went about as expected. The first fight of the night was the best imo. I can't even remember the names but it was a helluva fight. I'm very angry we didn't get to see Butterbean vs. Zulu. Butterbean winning via an armbar? That's all time classic. On another note, I just saw that the Diaz win over Gomi has been changed to a no decision because Diaz was aided by the use of marijuana. Good stuff. |
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I *really* need to find this on the internet some where.
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you have a PM, sir.
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oh sweet jesus. That was a KICK. G'damm! Coutoure has gotta be shaking in his boots
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Poor guy, wake up with a killer headache and you can't put any weight on your leg, he's not going to believe them that it was all because of the kick until he watches the tape.
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Holy crap.
What the hell is going on in the world of MMA lately? Another crazy one. What a kick. Did you see his leg though? My god, that was disgusting. I wonder though if being knocked senseless will help with an injury because he wouldn't have tensed. Nasty though. |
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that was the sickest kick i've ever seen. As good as any i've seen in pride, and the best i've seen in MMA (better than the Tim Slyvia vs. Tra Telligman one). Hit him right on the button. Wow. |
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He was apparently walking after the card. |
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well that's amazing, but good. i'm glad you didn't spoil it for me btw...thanx |
here's a shot of cro cop after the kick.. I was going to put it in a spoiler tag, it's that stomach churning, and then I realized that this was what Hxxping links was made for.
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Wow...I saw it live and tweaked out, but seeing it again over and over...WOW! |
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I didn't see it live but had no idea what to expect (other than the end result), so it was kinda live'ish for me the first time on video. And DAMN ! my imagination was exceeded many times over. |
Working YouTube link...hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCe_HD4WKJw
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Sick, just sick.
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That was the first time I've ever felt uneasy watching a MMA knockout. I thought he broke his neck when he fell to the ground. Not to mention his leg was going in 8 different directions.
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For a brief moment I actually thought he Cro-Cop was dead. Wow. And Bisping is a beast.
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