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Vince 08-10-2004 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
her: since the bats moved in over a gradual time frame, it's not covered.
me: so, if a herd of lemmings suddenly attacks the house and knocks down the door, THAT is covered?"
her: huh?
me: nevermind


Brilliant.

JeeberD 08-11-2004 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000
Just invite like 20 FOFC'ers over with fishing nets, and you provide the beer when all is said and done.

And once again - webcam first.


I'm up for that. DD is paying for the plane fare out there, right?

stevew 08-11-2004 10:44 AM

Fishing nets? Im thinking Tennis Rackets.

rkmsuf 08-11-2004 11:30 AM

don't mess around...flamethrowers for everyone.

Buddy Grant 08-11-2004 11:51 AM

Holy crap DD, at first I was gonna' say why on earth get rid of them, but your follow up description of events and numbers of pests poopooed that plan. Good luck, that is a pretty freaky problem.

Draft Dodger 08-11-2004 08:27 PM

Christine and I were on the couch eating a nice dinner when another bat flew into the family room. it's the 3rd one in about 6 weeks.

worst part: I opened the screen door for him to leave, but I lost track of him. I'm not sure at all if he left...or is just napping, waiting for me or my son to find him tomorrow.

so, I guess we're going to spend the money for sure now.

RendeR 08-11-2004 10:43 PM

While I must admit that reading this thread has been, to say the least, HILARIOUS, I have an idea for you.

My granmother had this problem with animals in both teh basement and the attics, she bought those electronic pest agitators...the ones that put out high end sound that pisses off the animals. The bats and squirrels acted annoyed, for about 30 second, then fled as fast as possible through every opening available.


go to your local outdoors shop and ask for these, buy 1-4 dependong on your taste in how fast you want to see these buggers fly off.

install webcam in attic

turn on pest annoyance devices

enjoy the show, then once they appear to be gone, take some scrap lumber and close off the access points.

this should cost you maybe 200 bucks, if everything you use is seriously expensive.

My gram said it was the funiest thing she ever saw as she watched a minimum of 20 chipmunks fight to be the first one out of the basement walls......


*mental image*

4 inch hole at ground level


15-20 chipmuck heads squashed tightly together all girating to get past the others...

*/ Mental Image*

Draft Dodger 08-12-2004 09:59 PM

so, we're going to go ahead and have the work done. it's going to be about a month before they can do it, so we may be putting up with a few stragglers in the house until then. the $1600 hurts though. and, literally the day after the inspection, the valve in our upstairs bath went out, and we had to get the plumber in - another hundred bucks or so we didn't really want to be spending.

had an interesting talk with the owner of the bat service today - he definitely is a
Grizzly Adams nature boy type (the kind who could live in the wilderness eating berries and mouse poop). At one point, he mentioned the bat he kept in his upstairs bathroom for a winter. (???)

Anyway, I wanted to ask how to flush out a bat hiding in the house, like the guy who may or may not be hiding in my family room now. He suggested smelly things - bats don't like mothballs, candles, incense, stuff like that. So, we've been burning incense upstairs pretty much constantly tonight, in hopes of at least keeping them at bay for a bit. All the incense though makes me think I need to buy some pot or something.

JonInMiddleGA 08-12-2004 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
Anyway, I wanted to ask how to flush out a bat hiding in the house, like the guy who may or may not be hiding in my family room now.


Having BTDT too many f'n times to count, and having what my wife refers to as "regular bat removal procedures", here's how it's done.

1) Seal off the area where you think the bat is from any parts of the house you definitely don't want him/her to be. No sense making things even worse.
2) He ain't gonna be doing a whole lot of moving around at night in most cases. Odds are, he's found a spot to perch himself upside down til morning.
3) Depending upon how squeamish you are (when it comes to animals that are occasionally rabid, for me that'd be "very"), a broom is your friend.
4) Think like a bat for a minute -- I don't wanna be fucked with, I just wanna get some sleep. Where can I go? In my house, about 90% of the time that means the little bastard has stuck himself to the highest & darkest place he can find -- tucked in the folds of the curtains or the valance(sp?) above the curtains.
5) This is where the broom comes in -- I've got 14 foot ceilings, so it ain't exactly like I can just reach up & grab the m.f. Work your way around the room, using the broom to spread the curtains. You'd be amazed how well a small fold can hide a small bat (quite small when they're curled up). Once you find him, knock hell outta the curtain.
6) A good swat with the broom usually sends them careening to the floor & they're stunned for a few seconds. That's where the broom comes in handier.
7) Make like Brett Hull & one-timer him toward the fuckin door (I recommend either opening the door beforehand OR having SWMBO be standing by to open the door at the appropriate moment).
8) Repeat Step 7 as needed until you put the biscuit in the basket ... or in this case, the bat outside instead of inside.

pennywisesb 08-12-2004 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA
SWMBO


What does SWMBO mean?

JonInMiddleGA 08-12-2004 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennywisesb
What does SWMBO mean?


Universal internet shorthand for "She Who Must Be Obeyed"
Typically a wife, occasionally an unmarried significant other.

pennywisesb 08-12-2004 10:24 PM

Ok, thanks, I was enjoying your description of how to get rid of the bat, but then got thrown for a loop when I reached that acronym.

Draft Dodger 08-12-2004 10:48 PM

this room is tough. there are ANY number of places for a bat to hide. one entire wall is built in book-cases, 20-wide, 10' tall. add in a computer desk, tv, heater, and approximately 6,000 toys.

I really gave the room a good going over...even crawled underneath my computer desk and looked behind the computer (a nice, warm place), but no dice. but, really, he could be anywhere. the last time, he was on the floor in a corner, and I had totally missed him when I looked the first time.

Eaglesfan27 08-12-2004 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA
Having BTDT too many f'n times to count, and having what my wife refers to as "regular bat removal procedures", here's how it's done.

1) Seal off the area where you think the bat is from any parts of the house you definitely don't want him/her to be. No sense making things even worse.
2) He ain't gonna be doing a whole lot of moving around at night in most cases. Odds are, he's found a spot to perch himself upside down til morning.
3) Depending upon how squeamish you are (when it comes to animals that are occasionally rabid, for me that'd be "very"), a broom is your friend.
4) Think like a bat for a minute -- I don't wanna be fucked with, I just wanna get some sleep. Where can I go? In my house, about 90% of the time that means the little bastard has stuck himself to the highest & darkest place he can find -- tucked in the folds of the curtains or the valance(sp?) above the curtains.
5) This is where the broom comes in -- I've got 14 foot ceilings, so it ain't exactly like I can just reach up & grab the m.f. Work your way around the room, using the broom to spread the curtains. You'd be amazed how well a small fold can hide a small bat (quite small when they're curled up). Once you find him, knock hell outta the curtain.
6) A good swat with the broom usually sends them careening to the floor & they're stunned for a few seconds. That's where the broom comes in handier.
7) Make like Brett Hull & one-timer him toward the fuckin door (I recommend either opening the door beforehand OR having SWMBO be standing by to open the door at the appropriate moment).
8) Repeat Step 7 as needed until you put the biscuit in the basket ... or in this case, the bat outside instead of inside.


Gold.

Draft Dodger 08-12-2004 11:08 PM

the very first bat we had in the house was a BITCH to get out. for a while he was hanging on the back of our stereo...and wouldn't let go. then, he finally did, and crawled under an entertainment center that was too heavy to lose. EVENTUALLY the idiot landed on the curtain string hanging from an open window. here he is, inches from freedom, and he's just hanging on the string. I just swung the tennis racket and *thwacked* him out the open window. not very smart, these little rodents.

sterlingice 08-13-2004 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar
Damn, humor comes in the strangest threads. I've laughed more at this one than anything else today. :D


Damn straight! :D :D :D

Sorry to hear this, DD, but you gotta admit, this would be funny if you weren't the person who's house it was. Hope you get it straighted out.

SI

sovereignstar 08-13-2004 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA
Having BTDT too many f'n times to count, and having what my wife refers to as "regular bat removal procedures", here's how it's done.

1) Seal off the area where you think the bat is from any parts of the house you definitely don't want him/her to be. No sense making things even worse.
2) He ain't gonna be doing a whole lot of moving around at night in most cases. Odds are, he's found a spot to perch himself upside down til morning.
3) Depending upon how squeamish you are (when it comes to animals that are occasionally rabid, for me that'd be "very"), a broom is your friend.
4) Think like a bat for a minute -- I don't wanna be fucked with, I just wanna get some sleep. Where can I go? In my house, about 90% of the time that means the little bastard has stuck himself to the highest & darkest place he can find -- tucked in the folds of the curtains or the valance(sp?) above the curtains.
5) This is where the broom comes in -- I've got 14 foot ceilings, so it ain't exactly like I can just reach up & grab the m.f. Work your way around the room, using the broom to spread the curtains. You'd be amazed how well a small fold can hide a small bat (quite small when they're curled up). Once you find him, knock hell outta the curtain.
6) A good swat with the broom usually sends them careening to the floor & they're stunned for a few seconds. That's where the broom comes in handier.
7) Make like Brett Hull & one-timer him toward the fuckin door (I recommend either opening the door beforehand OR having SWMBO be standing by to open the door at the appropriate moment).
8) Repeat Step 7 as needed until you put the biscuit in the basket ... or in this case, the bat outside instead of inside.


When the sun rises, you should be the one on top of the peak.

Draft Dodger 08-13-2004 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice
Damn straight! :D :D :D

Sorry to hear this, DD, but you gotta admit, this would be funny if you weren't the person who's house it was. Hope you get it straighted out.

SI


oh, I do chuckle about it. the money is kind of tough, especially right now, but life could be much worse

GrantDawg 08-13-2004 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennywisesb
What does SWMBO mean?



Newby

WSUCougar 08-13-2004 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
Anyway, I wanted to ask how to flush out a bat hiding in the house, like the guy who may or may not be hiding in my family room now. He suggested smelly things - bats don't like mothballs, candles, incense, stuff like that. So, we've been burning incense upstairs pretty much constantly tonight, in hopes of at least keeping them at bay for a bit. All the incense though makes me think I need to buy some pot or something.

I'd add some sitar music. I've heard they hate that, too.

And Jon, that was epic stuff. LOL on the Brett Hull comment.

JonInMiddleGA 08-13-2004 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSUCougar
And Jon, that was epic stuff. LOL on the Brett Hull comment.


The sad part is that it's all true -- my wife & one of her friends (who has similar bat experiences) have begun lobbying for bat removal to be the next Olympic sport.

The even sadder part (to me at least) is that my first bat removal attempt is a far funnier story than the now tried-and-true procedure that I described here.
It was just fuckin' pathetic on my part, and that's about all that needs to be said I think.

Alf 08-13-2004 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA
Universal internet shorthand for "She Who Must Be Obeyed"
Typically a wife, occasionally an unmarried significant other.


You can add that this is typically referencing Mrs SkyDog

Ben E Lou 08-13-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf
You can add that this is typically referencing Mrs SkyDog

Well, it is defininitely a generic terminology, but I was probably the first to use it regularly at FOFC.

JonInMiddleGA 08-13-2004 09:49 AM

Oddly enough, the most common internet slang used by women to describe husbands is "DH" aka Dear Husband.

Seems kinda unfair ... until you realize that we often put more affection in "SWMBO" than they intend with "DH" (which can be used very sarcastically).

Ben E Lou 08-13-2004 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA
(which can be used very sarcastically).

No kidding. My wife's adoption agency has a company-run message board (which is, by the way, one of the dumbest ideas ever for an adoption agency), and the potential adoptive moms on their often use it sarcastically.

heybrad 08-19-2004 10:48 AM

I thought this would be the appropriate thread to post an article that I thought was cool because my brother is quoted in it and its about bats.

http://www.recordnet.com/daily/news/...81904-gn-4.php

Evicted bats return to Thornton bridge site

By David Siders
Record Staff Writer
Published Thursday, August 19, 2004

THORNTON -- Bats that had been evicted from under an old farm-truck bridge on the San Joaquin/Sacramento County line are back.

That's good news for the bats and for nearby farmers, too.

The dilapidated Franklin Boulevard/Thornton Road bridge was closed after floods in 1997 ruined wood pilings under it and caused it to sag. Bats roosting under it were kicked out ahead of a bridge reconstruction that is to be finished in November.

Lately, however, bridge watchers have noticed construction crews have company underfoot.

Seven thousand bats have been counted so far under the replacement bridge, which was designed with bat-friendly, redwood-lined crevices installed in the concrete, said Craig Moyle, a spokesman for the Sacramento County Department of Environmental Review and Assessment.

"If you're quiet, you'll hear them chirping," he said.

The bats that are back are just a fraction of the once 40,000-strong. Persuading them to leave the redwood bridge in the first place required caulking shut the crevices in which the bats slept, or covering them with mesh, Moyle said.

"Every night they would go out there for weeks on end plugging up the old crevices," he said.

The bats moved into trees and bat houses erected nearby, he said.

The replacement bridge, like its predecessor, spans the Mokelumne River, connecting two farm-to-market roads. The bats benefit the local farm economy by eating crop-assaulting insects, said Tim Hawkins, an environmental analyst with the Sacramento County Department of Environmental Review and Assessment.

Moyle said insects swarm the area near the bridge.

"The bats are there for a reason," he said.

The $13.5 million replacement bridge has room for 600,000 bats, but it is unclear how many will return to roost there. It is difficult to count how many might remain in the surrounding trees, Hawkins said.

"We're crossing our fingers and waiting until next year to see," he said. "There's not much we can do to lure them."

The bridge has apparently been lure enough. Moyle said the bats sleep there because it is warm, and fly out from under the bridge in waves to feast on insects when the sun sets.

Moyle said the bats are almost undetectable during the day, except for droppings on the ground that look like "burnt Rice Krispies."

Hawkins said he was surprised any bats had returned yet at all. He said he figured the construction overhead would scare them away.

The federal government is paying about 80 percent of the reconstruction of the bridge; San Joaquin and Sacramento counties are contributing the rest.


**my brother is the Environmental Analyst

KevinNU7 08-19-2004 12:45 PM

Hey Brad Hawkins!

Raven 08-19-2004 04:42 PM

Dude, you should have known what to expect when you bought the place.



SlapBone 08-19-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryche
Better than a baseball bat, use an old tennis racket...larger surface area and the holes in it messes up their radar.

I actually managed to kill a bat flying around our house with a teddy bear when I was a child. I think it may have died of embarrassment at being taken down in that way though.



Fishing rods don't have quite the surface area but they have an equally confusing radar profile.

When I was a kid....oh never mind, the PETA people will have a fit.

Franklinnoble 08-19-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlapBone
Fishing rods don't have quite the surface area but they have an equally confusing radar profile.

When I was a kid....oh never mind, the PETA people will have a fit.


I don't think we have any PETA people here.

I'd recommend a lacrosse stick.

SteelerFan448 08-19-2004 05:16 PM

Just get some nets and get them out during the day when they're sleeping. Make sure you also seal up any holes where they can get in. No sense paying that much when you can do it yourself. Even remove them over a period of time if you are worried about a swarm of bats attacking you.

SlapBone 08-19-2004 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
I don't think we have any PETA people here.

I'd recommend a lacrosse stick.


Ok...cool. When I was a kid we would take white limestone rocks and throw them in the air and the bats would follow them almost to the ground. Almost was when you heard the whistle of a rod blank humming through the air. You had to swing it like you were trying to cast. We missed more than we we hit but it was hours of fun. We usually got 1 or 2 everytime we did it. It's amazing what a piece of limber graphite can do to a winged rat.

Edit: For city folk a "rod blank" is a fishing rod that hasn't had any hardware epoxied to it (like eyes or a handle).

Franklinnoble 08-20-2004 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SlapBone
Ok...cool. When I was a kid we would take white limestone rocks and throw them in the air and the bats would follow them almost to the ground. Almost was when you heard the whistle of a rod blank humming through the air. You had to swing it like you were trying to cast. We missed more than we we hit but it was hours of fun. We usually got 1 or 2 everytime we did it. It's amazing what a piece of limber graphite can do to a winged rat.

Edit: For city folk a "rod blank" is a fishing rod that hasn't had any hardware epoxied to it (like eyes or a handle).


Sweet.

Reminds me of the time I was at Ocean City, MD as a kid, and I saw a guy fishing off one of the piers. He cast out a line, and while it was in mid-air, a seagull swooped down and snatched the bait.

There's nothing funnier than watching a guy try to reel in a flying seagull.

Ksyrup 05-03-2007 01:35 PM

So...how much does it cost to remove 3,500 pounds of bat shit from an attic?




3,500 Lbs. of Bat Guano Found in Attic
May 3 09:45 AM US/Eastern


BALLSTON SPA, N.Y. (AP) - An upstate New York couple didn't think a few bats in the attic were much of a problem when they were buying a house last summer.


Months later, they found out how wrong they were when they discovered more than a ton and a half of bat droppings up there.

Nick LaBoda and Jenna Caputo say a home inspector informed them about the bats. They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly.

Then they forgot about the bats until they smelled a foul odor in January. When they checked the attic, they found dead bats and piles of guano.

An exterminator says hundreds of bats had been living in the attic, leaving behind 3,500 pounds of droppings.

It cost $25,000 to clean up the mess, and the couple's insurance company wouldn't cover it. They're fighting it out in court.



Draft Dodger 05-03-2007 01:42 PM

3500 pounds sounds like a LOT more than hundreds of bats. bat droppings are a lot like mouse droppings.

Ksyrup 05-03-2007 01:43 PM

We should do a class action against insurance companies who refuse to cover for the cost of shit removal.

MikeVic 05-03-2007 01:54 PM

Wow this is an old thread.

Ksyrup 05-03-2007 01:58 PM

I have good recall for bat shit-related stories.

JediKooter 05-03-2007 02:07 PM

3500 pounds of bat doo and it took them THAT long to notice the smell?

Ksyrup 05-03-2007 02:14 PM

"They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly."


What's the logic here? Save the baby bats, and cause yourself $25K of problems in the process? Otherwise, I would think removing the bats before they could fly would be much easier. And the kicker is that they ended up dead, anyway.

Antmeister 05-03-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 1457510)
3500 pounds of bat doo and it took them THAT long to notice the smell?


That's the first thing I thought. How would you not notice that when first looking at the place. I don't care how much deodorizer they use.

Kodos 05-03-2007 02:22 PM

Think of it as free insulation.

Celeval 05-03-2007 02:40 PM

Isn't bat guano a good source for some gunpowder ingredients?

*boom*

Draft Dodger 05-03-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1457525)
"They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly."


What's the logic here? Save the baby bats, and cause yourself $25K of problems in the process? Otherwise, I would think removing the bats before they could fly would be much easier. And the kicker is that they ended up dead, anyway.


IIRC, in many places it's illegal to remove bats while the babies are too young. I know we had some very specific windows where we were able to remove the bats, otherwise we'd have to wait.

Ksyrup 05-03-2007 02:55 PM

Ah, another "spotted owls rape lumberjacks" moment. I see.

bulletsponge 05-03-2007 04:18 PM

poor bats. they just want a nice home

Mr. Wednesday 05-03-2007 04:25 PM

Seems like there ought to be action against the home inspector and/or the seller of the house, if that much guano managed to go unnoticed.

sterlingice 05-03-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic (Post 1457498)
Wow this is an old thread.


Pretty safe bet there aren't a whole lot of threads on the board about guano...

SI

M GO BLUE!!! 05-03-2007 07:03 PM

Napalm seemed to work pretty well in 'Nam.

Mo.Raider 05-04-2007 12:59 AM

Moth balls might do the trick. It usually makes things move out in a hurry. If the entry ways are not actual roof leaks, try some of that foam sealant that comes in a can and expands.


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