given a team*

Awww Path...you're my beautiful wife? May the good lord cherish and enrich your soul dear...I am sure that he will provide for you a bountiful harvest so that you might be able to achieve your dreams my love.

I don't think it means much, Blade. My guess is that's more a way of organizing/limiting night actions.

Ill find out soon enough, unless someone else catches my eye

Thank you, my dear husband. I certainly do seem to be embracing my feminine side lately, thank the Lord.

So do we basically just sit around all day and wait for someone to be declared a liberal? Or like good ole times cant i just accuse someone of being one and we kill them(like the salem witch trials)

Our Lord works in mysterious ways, that is for certain. But we must trust in his rightousness.

Hey DT, path...anything either of you want to share about the little families we have? You seemed to indicate you knew you were cronins father, so do you have any knowledge of him?

none at all. I have no knowledge beyond "you are father to this person, husband of this person"

I know that I am a fine and upstanding member of the church. I would presume that my wife and son attend with me, their absence would be a bit conspicuous

So you dont have any extra knowledge of game mechanics like your son is claiming to have? I just want to make sure i understand this point...

just catching up. nothing to see here move along

nope.

although (to play devil's advocate) I suppose it's possible he has a more powerful role than me, for the side of good as well. I don't know how LIKELY that is, but if anxiety used say...random.org to assign special powers after assigning "roles/families" then it could happen that my kid was the seer, or the bodyguard or whatever.

and I might catch heat for suggesting that. But I'm just raising the possibility. Right now nothing that's really gone down between cronin+you has me leaning either way.

My understanding from my own role is that our powers are strongly tied to our position within the community. My role and power relates heavily to my profession i hold. Thats why im pushing hard here, as i would assume you might know your sons job or standing in society.

I dont know if others have a similar connection in their role and their power, and dont expect anyone else to come out really. Just putting that out there for thought

nope. I have no idea of his job or standing. For all I know he could be a kid.

Drama already? Oh dear, you fellas need to calm it down and pray some more. I am very confused on what to do without a liberal list so I am going to pray that God tells me who one of them Gays are so we can cast them out from our beautiful city.

And I agree that Sister Marie should be considered liberal after her comments about... about... I cannot even say that dirty word. Blasphemy is all it is! Blasphemy!

I'n not really sure what we are supposed to be doing here.

Did anyone else get a role in their PM? I did but I am not sure if I am supposed to say that?

I told you i did...i got a name, what job i hold in the community, and what power comes with it.

I am leaving to spread the Lord's word for the day. Though I have my suspicions, it seems that none of you have been outed yet, so I will need to with hold the Lord's stoning vote in me. I leave it to my husband's will to vote for me, should a candidate arise while I am gone. For now, though.

VOTE NO STONING

I certainly don't, but Leroy has always been a special child, and maybe he has been chosen by the Lord to help us maintain the path to righteousness. I do not have any reason to doubt my beloved child.

*looks over roles* hey im Sister Marie!


*runs to wach out mouth*

You could give it a try, see what happens.

dola

I honestly have no idea what would happen if somebody tried to "officially" accuse somebody of being subversive.

well with Blade in the game its wont be long until we see it

There will be some of the faithful that will be percieved as liberal, as Brother Anxiety pointed out in the rules. I firmly believe that at least some of our loyal Sisters and Brothers will not have any tendency to appear on that list at all.

I pray however we find these unclean people quickly. We may be able to save them then (with God's help) I hear those gay retraining camp save many of them from continuing down thier path of sin and damnation.

Allow me to say my piece on the matters at hand today. I have no reason to suspect that I have any liberal leanings in my heart. My parents raised me with proper respect for the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Only one who has lost their way spiritually could find comfort in pleasures of the body in a manner that these fornicators have seemingly embraced.

I am not able to vouch for either of my parents. Although it would sadden me greatly to learn of any deviant activity on their part, I am not possessed with any particular knowledge of their activities. I will seek over the course of the next few weeks to protect our community and honor the Lord.

I remain a little perplexed that the list of liberals remains empty. I was of the belief that at least one, if not more, people in our community had comported themselves in a manner that would require a listing.

Oh, im not sure your too wrong...i just think my choices would suprise you, and everyone for that matter. But thats what i love about WW, its all smoke and mirrors

Anxiety, is there a reason Bullet was not made a liberal? He made comments that very much resembled those you warned DT of...im still wondering what it takes to get on said list if not that.

how dare you accuse me of being a liberal!

I felt it was on teh line, actually just on the side of being liberal-ed. However, since it was close, and it was hte first thing all game, I would be a little lenient.

I didnt accuse you of being a liberal...trust me, you will know if i accuse you. Your not my priority now, though you are entertaining

Beargrowlz, next game..you playing...just so you know :)

How many different ways can Anxiety misspell "the"?

oh. So no lynch tonight, but we can vote someone onto the list for tomorrow.

I don't know who i'd like to see up there...

At this point there are is less than 3 hours to add a name to the list. If I learned anything from reading past threads the most dangerous thing for the villagers is to lose a day without any information/voting patterns coming out of it.

As a firm believer in God and the sanctity of the family I feel it would be morally wrong at this time to place any member of the two families on the liberal list. That leaves me with seven other possible names:

Females
ntndeacon
LoneStarGirl
bulletsponge
Kwhit

Males
Lathum
Blade
Tyrith

Given that to this point only men have been found guilty of these acts against God and our community I feel that is the best place to start. Blade is at least posting and active at this point, and Lathum is an experienced player that could prove to help our community in the future. In the hopes of getting some discussion going I will:

VOTE TYRITH

Label them unmutual? I don't get it. Back to the rules.....

VOTE CHIEFRUM

Here is where i differ iron...i think at least one of the family members is a gay..therefore i see it like this

1 out of 6 for the family

1 out of 7 outside of family

1 random

So in my opinion, we have a better shot looking in the families then out. Chief is a good player, but has been very quiet so far. The first family(cronin, path, and DT) have all been active in posting. The other, not soo much...hoops stated he would be quiet for a day or two though, so its chief or ITC. Of those 2, chief scares me more.

The family line seems highly suspicious. The fact that some of us have the gift of singleness, as Saint Paul wished for us all to have, is not a reason for me to be labeled with such contempt. Alas, perhaps you have fallen into heathen ways?

Realistically, for the time being, I'm fairly clueless, so I'm going to reciprocate the vote given to me for lack of better options.

VOTE IRONHEAD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Change_of_Mind

I too agree that there will likely be at least 1 member of Them Gays in the family. Anxiety's line about "stated genders" made me think that one of the spouses might be concealing their true self. But by simply looking at your own stated odds, we either have a 1 in 6 chance (16.7%) of getting a wolf by going after the family group or a 2 in 8 chance (25%) by going after the other grouping. I know that I am pure of these acts against God and ourcommunity, which increases the chances for that grouping to a 2 in 7 (28.5%) chance. Or I could just be confused since this is a strange game so far and my first Werewolf experience to boot. lol

No, Ironhead, the random would come from either group in the "random" case.

yes iron...this is prob. the most confused ive ever been in WW...dont be discouraged

/ooc That is actually for next week. I was anticipating being available and active this week but had a client emergency today that severely curtailed my access. I'm hoping that won't be an issue going forward.

While the "family" argument would be convenient for me today (seeing as I'm a member of one) I don't think it is the proper filter for locating the miscreants in our town.

hmmm. I don't have any brilliant thoughts about family vs. single people. no one has really...grabbed my attention yet. Prolly cuz this is one strange game of WW.

That said, I'm in the same boat as everyone else in not really knowing where we can begin our hunt for sinners.

Given that we began with a Night 0, I'm going to conclude that some people had the ability to complete an initial action. Instinctively, I think that would probably include some gays looking for partners to convert to their perverted lifestyle.

I'm hoping that some of those who hold God in their hearts also were able to initiate actions to cleanse our community but the complete lack of direction provided up to this point makes this seem unlikely.

What concerns me is that we know the normal rules for day lynching have changed. What about night kills? Unless night actions provide valuable information to the village and no wolfs slip up during the daytime then there might only be a lynching during every two day phases. If night kills have not changed then that would give a serious advantage to the wolfs.

Ugh...no editing is going to drive me to drinking. I cannot believe I just typed "wolfs" and not "wolves". Proofreading is not my friend.

well that and I can't stop playing OOTP. Trying to figure out why smokey joe wood + walter johnson have both become busts according to the scouts but are still pitching strong.

I'm willing to change this vote if a real reason emerges to do so. But it is just about random at this point. I sense the capacity for evil and godlessness in this man, who is the self-described "Worlds greatest wolf".

VOTE (Brother Tanner McFlannery) LATHUM

hmmm misspelling. did you miss sunday school?

What sunday school teaches SPELLING????

At tonight's business meeting after dinner, the chair brings up the point of what to do about your community. Since the events of yesterday are fresh in your mind, you realize that you need to do something.

However, whoever Them Gays are, they aren't making it easy on you. Your investigations and questionings begin, but all day long, no one flinched and no names were written on the sign.

Therefore, the chair asks for nominations from the floor. After a few moments, one of you meekly raises a hand and nominates a name. The chair asks for a second, but no second is heard. The nomination dies. Another nomination is submitted, and again dies for no second. This happene severla times.

Sure you would all like to nominate and vote for someone to be placed on teh liberal board in order to guarantee you a choice for tomorrow, but actually selecting one of your friends and neighbors is tough.

As a result, no one is seconded, no one has a plurality of votes, every nomination ends at one perpson, and no names are written on teh board.

You are not dismayed, however, for the Lord provides. Somehow, you know a name will be there in the moning.



Day One has Ended. Night One has Begun and will end at 2:00 am est Tuesday.

Those of you with night actions, please remembver this rule:

"It is possible for nights to end early if all night actions are in, so if you want to submit a tentative night action, and want to submit a change later, let me know in the pm to hold off until deadline. Otherwise, I will assume that once you've sent in your pm, you are good to go."

I added a line for clarification.

I thought because nobody was liberal we wouldn't have a chance to stone anyone, which is why i haven't gotten on before now

Does anyone expect there to be a name on liberal list tomorrow morning? Or was our good Brother Abe merely providing flavor?

I expect there to be, but ive stated all along i thought we had both roles and mechanics to put people on the list.

I think cronin is funny as hell, if only for being sooo utterly wrong about me

Rereading the rules, it kind of looks to me that there aren't night kills -- maybe them gays can only put God-fearing folks on the list instead of stoning them at night.

Or they can try and covert people, with only a few players who have liberal tendencies able to actually be turned

maybe i should read the rules to find out whats happening

The dawn arises and bring sith it new light, new sounds, new scents, and new life. You are glad that God has given you another day. You did not die before you waked, and you still have your soul.

Joy of living fills your every pore.

You get ready for a new day, brush your teeth, bathe, make or eat breakfast and coffee, and move out of your houses into your respective jobs around the community. Some of you are laborers, while others perform more service oriented tasks.

It is a beautiful day.

Your breakfast gives your body the same sustenance that God gives your soul. Everyone is accounted for. You arrived at the church for morning prayer throughout the morning at various times. As each of you arrive, you see no new names on the sign.

Has the darkness left your fair town? There have been no actions for two days now in any direction.

What happens next?




Night One has ended. Day Two has begun and will end at 9 pm EST Tuesday evening.

SO I guess we wait.

I always assume when there is no night kill there was a BG block or a conversion.

I am guessing we won't find out either way. If the BG type role is a new player don't reveal unless you were able to ID the attacker.

IS there even a BG role?

I'm not really sure how to proceed today. I would prefer to have some kind of voting records at the very least, but with both Night 0 and Night 1 having completed my choice is to wait for any evidence to materialize.

If that isn't forthcoming, then I'll make an educated guess (hopefully better than random) this afternoon.

I've got nothin'.

dola

Its somewhat noteworthy that nobody was willing to second any of the votes.

Sister Thelma Snider here. I think it's a travesty that we have ... them ... (I can't even say the dispicable word)... in our town. In occurs to me that there are 6 of them among us. I say that based on this information:


So that's 6, unless, of course, they have been able to convert one of the liberal-minded deviants into their sin. In which case there could be 7 by now. But, I believe in the lord, so I hope and pray that there are only 6.

I am a proud, loyal American. And by that I mean that I am conservative to the core.

6 seems kind of high. no?

morning all

in a 20 person game 6 would be awfully high.

for better or worse we need to get some people up there on the liberal list. even if we end up stoning a heterosexual it would at least give us some insight hopefully in the stoning records.

I would think six is possible if the rules for the game give very limited methods for the gays to either convert or kill (every other night, maybe? have to locate each other to communicate?) during the night phases.

I think that makes sense. In a community such as ours, them gays cannot outwardly advertise their sick perversions, so it does figure that they may have to find ways to find each other in order to communicate. Probably through some liberal kind of meetup or some such nonsense.

I must say, I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to proceed here.

i think we need to get some people on the liberal list, so at least we have a "stoning record" to go on...otherwise we just sit around and wait for them to convert everyone with a liberal leaning (if they in fact can) and then we're outnmbered and the perversion take us all!

now i doubt if anyone who volunteers to go on the list will be evil, but it might give us an insight via the voting records?

in that sense, since i know i'm good and i have no great powers, i volunteer myself?

*shrug*

How do we put people on the stoning list brother?

Well, I imagine we could do it the way that Anxiety mentioned yesterday - cast votes for liberals instead of for stoning. I don't believe he has officially said that we can do this again today, but if he allowed us to "not waste a day yesterday" by voting for a liberal, I would guess the same rule is in play again.

As far as self-nominating (suggested by DaddyTorgo), I'm not willing to go that far. I know that is a bad vote now, and have no reason to believe I have any kind of suppressed liberal leanings. Furthermore, I would like to believe I have some value to the faithful as the game progresses.

Husband, what would little Leroy and I do if you were stoned to death? You would not condemn me to abandon my family duties to work outside the home would you? I beseech you, please do not sacrifice yourself -- your family needs you, and where would any of us be without family and the Lord's guidance?

The Lord worked six days on end creating our beautiful if sinful world. So I should not quake at the thought of working away most of mine. But I am about to leave on another day's hard work. So I must do my voting now.

It is for God to judge us in the end, but we are asked to judge now. And I think judging for no reason is rather hasty and liberal-minded. So...

VOTE ST CRONIN

...for not giving us a reason for his Blade vote. I know there are those types in this town. Let's see if we can root them out.

Uh, Chief, did you not read the thread? I did give reasons for voting for Blade.

That is correct. You may continue to vote for someone to be placed on the liberal list until I tell you otherwise. To be fair, I don't believe that I was clear enough on that. Until a game mechanic puts someone on the list, you may vote to add someone there.

Sister Marie's talk about ...vulgar things... was not what proper ladies talk about. Since I have to face the facts that our beloved Baptist Church has been overrun by those people, we must take action. If we don't dire consequences may happen, New Yorkers or dare I say it... Lutherans.

So with al that in mind I
Vote Sister Marie (bulletsponge) to the liberal list

Sister Sandra you read my mind about Sister Marie and her dirty mouth.

For voting my pious, humble and God-fearing son he must be one of them:

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Or it is 6(or just under half) that have liberal tendencies...thats possible as well. Not just gay, but liberal(which anxiety said their would be some)

I am not of the opinion we have no night kills yet...maybe we dont, but for now im assuming like you. They just failed night 1

Ill hold off on my vote until i see if i need to cast it in self-defense, since cronin seems quite happy being ignorant

If you have a better idea, I'm all ears.

See, thats where its tricky...i dont have a canidate to hand you...nothing has happened yet this game, other then a bunch of missed votes. If i had to pick, id pick one of those who voted last night near the end. They all knew it was a tie, and just cast more random votes. We have no name on the list becuase of them. I dont suspect as much the missed votes, as the whole vote name onto list didnt come until late in the day.

The 4 votes last night, in order, were ironhead, me, hoops, then you.

I dont really want to vote you, and im not ready to vote iron. So if i had to vote right now, id vote hoops. And i hate voting hoops early, but if it was the deadline he would recieve my vote.

Im not sure how to deal with all the missed votes(10 i think), so im simply choosing not to for now.

Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for somebody that received a vote yesterday? The theory being that the wolves wouldn't put a second vote on their own guy, and since no second votes were placed, perhaps a wolf received a vote.

I dunno, to be fair it seemed alot of people didn't cast a vote, the whole thing came about kind of late.

FWIW I would have voted to break a tie yesterday. I am from the camp that there should be a lynch everyday.

I agree its a long shot, but what else is there?

I'm OK with the "late votes" idea, except that none of the votes were cast particularly late. Cronin was 50 minutes before the deadline. I do think it makes sense to look for data points, even if there doesn't appear to be much flow in this game so far.

Blade, it wouldn't be an early day of werewolf if you weren't giving me the double and triple take looks :) Like usual, I'm a good guy and you are potentially seeing something that isn't there, but if we are both around long enough I'm sure we'll sort that out.

well I prolly won't be around till like 7:30. Maybe a touch earlier. So I dunno. I'll vote then, but I didn't have any strong feelings as of last-time I checked the thread, so I dunno.

sorry. I'm just not entirey...in the game right now. RL

and FTR...i didn't vote last night because it was clear that nothing was going to happen. We weren't going to get to lynch anyone, and honesty I expected multiple people to end up on the liberal-list after night-actions so we'd have a choice today and didn't see any reason to put a 3rd person up there without any actual reason.

A 3rd person?

I'm not getting involved in another early blade/cronin fight at the moment. I'm still too clueless to get engaged in a fight between heavyweights. I'm going to cast a second vote, because I want someone on the list, and Rum, sorry my friend, you are the best choice right now.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

well its all wild guess owrk so far, so ill jump in with the same

Vite DaddyTorgo

dola that was supposed to say Vote