Given that Amazon is now listing the release date for WWSM as November 1, I guess this means that WWSM will not be out before the end of October. This is disappointing news, because I was hoping to buy it this month.

You can buy it this month, you just won't get it until the next :)

Just occurred to me, I've got a guy on the squad on a work permit, but I don't see anything in his profile about the number of matches he has to play.

Has that changed?

I'm wondering whats going on at Amazon. On my order it still says that it'll be shipped on the 24th, arrive on the 25th. Even though the normal page for WWSM 07 says it won't be released untill Nov. 1st

Hopefully the dates on the page for my order are correct, :)

I dont think it has been in the previous two. In this version, you can sign a player but he might not have a work permit so you should try to get a feeder club in Belgium

Okay, so I just hit June 1st.

Tomas Kuszczak just completed his transfer to Manchester United for $3.8 million (it had been pending since season's start).

Should I have received that money way back when, making the amount irrelevant to me right now, or should I be concerned that my P&L now shows a loss of $3,799,000 for the month after that move went through?

You know what, I'm reading that wrong. I'm sorry.

It's in red, but it's in red for 'net transfer SPEND,' so I actually have a monthly profit of $3,799,000.

Hmm. I'm looking at a kiddie I want to sign, and it looks like it'd be cheaper to buy him from his team than to try to sign him on a free, since compensation is involved.

Will the team insist on a transfer fee closer to the compensation amount?

Not usually, but there are exceptions

Didn't get that kiddie, but I did manage to get Collins John from West Ham for half what they were asking.

After the spate of injuries to my AMF's and strikers last season, I'm glad to have him. Now if we can only snag Carlton Cole, I think I'll be done buying for now.

so there's no place to get the download verison of the game and a CD at latter date for US?

i wanna play after watch Arsenal today! four nill!

could i atleast save a game from the demo and transfer it with me to the CD when i get it, that should work right? (well on second though that wouldn't give me the gobal depth i prefer since i couldnt add to the limitations of the demo)

Anybody who's been messing with the demo figure out how to set up the mentor/mentee relationship? Do I have to compare two players to one another first, what?

there will be options on the mentee's "player interaction" thing at the bottom. make sure you check their personality times first to ensure they don't clash

Thanks.

Yeah, I've got a striker thing going on with Hartson and a kiddie, they're both enthusiastic.

My goalkeeper is tutoring another young keeper, and while the mentor is happy, the mentee is like "Uhh...okay, but..."

The postman was just here and got my FM07 copy today from gameplay, woooot!! Good bye real life!

Game comes in the mail and I start out as Arsenal. While I'm struggling to snag any signing, Chelsea beats me out for Cambiossa (DM from Inter) and then spends 60 millioin and snags Adriano.

Good lord, I have no iea how I'm winning the EPL now.

I have started with Newport Country in the Nationwide south (the lowest UK league). We were expected to end at the bottom of the table, but at the half of the season we are 3rd! My team board and supporters are really happy as i am too.

Dola, my only complain so far are my scouts, i have two, i heve sent them to scout UK and Wales and after they finished their scout job, they have only reported about two players in UK and zero in Wales...

In the past versions the amount of players found was exagerated but now... they are totally useless.

Fuck you!

(don't mind me, i'm just jealous)

trust me, DT I feel the same way :P

(I ordered two copies of WWSM, one for DT, one for me.. I'm SO hoping that there will be a "shipping" notice from Amazon, but it may be one more week)

I'll be hoping the same thing tomorrow! But my order summary screen still says it will ship on the 24th, and I'd like to think that they would have that updated. Hopefully they just had some problem with production or something but got enough for those of us whom have already ordered. Yeah, that'd be nice. (as long as ours aren't mismanufactured, of course)

What, you have no caring in your heart for how tough it's going to be dealing with a front line of Schevenko and Adriano in a key match for me next week?

Gee, thanks. . . :)

...

I KEEL YOU NOW!

My copy should be delivered tomorrow, I stuck with gogamer.com.

Sack or anyone elso who has a copy, has anyone tried MLS? I am curios about gameplay based on the new changes made.

Damn, SI really needs to fix their forums. I'm trying to post a new thread with a small bug for like 30 minutes and it's so slow and ends timing out. I'm about to give up.

Bea:

I'm hearing that there's a bug with MLS Exchange offers (trades) that could crash the game. Can't confirm it yet.

From tinkering with the demo, you have enough personnel for it or at least enough to make Mourinho sweat just a little.

You tend to have to go slightly lower pricetag/reputation than a Cambiosso, though, in my opinion.

I went with GoGamer too. My copy showed up in the mail today :D

Sigh. Went with CD-Wow and hasn't shipped yet. I suppose I'm still a week and a half away.

For what it's worth, I'm seeing far more players listed now...but that might be the cumulative effect of multiple scouting trips (i.e. the players don't vanish into the ether once you go somewhere else, which I always thought was unrealistic to begin with).

Could it be because you have low finances and crappy scuts...i do remember something about levels of scouts mattering heavily in how many players are scouted i thought

and to think i could have maybe possibly had mine today. *pout*

i've gone back to my 06 career, but as we all know it's just not the same! no feeder clubs, no youth players coming up, etc.

:) :) :)

This game is amazing.

BTW, Sort it out SI has great kits, logos, titlebar stuff up for the Premiership

I'm playing as Liverpool and have a hard time competing. I started with a £7.5 mil transfer budget. Tough. Tough. I can't even get Darijo Srna! :)

What's funny to me is Mourinho left after one season, and Chelsea's attempt at four straight titles is now in danger as Arsenal are comfortably atop the table.

My West Brom Baggies drew with them (Arsenal), though, easily the accomplishment of our season.

Just read this on the SI forum:

"Frustrating ? I have just had my first FM07 related incident where I punched the monitor over and had to rescue it before it fell off the desk."

Just finished my first season with Newport Co in the Nationwide South (lowest UK division).

My board wanted me to avoid finishing last and at the half of the season we were 3rd and close to the first. After that, some injuries from my key players made us lose a lot of games so we ended 16th.

My board is so happy anyway and has just offered me a new 3 years contract and a raise but i'm a bit frustrated after the good run we had at first. For this new season i need to adjust my training plan and soften it towards end of the season to see if i can avoid injuries.

One of the nice things of FM is how the fans and media react at your accomplishments. At first my fans were so happy and the press saying that i was an excellent manager etc. Once we started to lose games and to go down in the table, the fans and media started to say that even being happy with not being last as we were expected, they were a bit pissed that we couldn't keep our nice run, as they were getting used to watch us win every week.

Stuff like this is what i would love to have in FOF for example, as the only way to see if you are doing well or not in FOF is going to the menu and to watch your franchise value growing or if you are winning titles, but nobody in the game universe is happy or pissed or praises or criticizes you. the kind of stuff helps a lot to the immersion factor and to make you feel into a real universe instead of just checking manually in a spreadsheet if your finances are better or not.

woot!


I know, I know, many of you have been playing for a little while now, but I went the cheap route. I was ready to wait a few days in order to get the game for about $38cdn, shipping included (or $33us).

The delay was only useful in getting my new computer ready to go. Now I got a good reason to check the mail everyday. :)

FM

Even though I'd said I wouldn't do it, I think I'm just waiting for the downloadable version. Since we know it won't be out this month, I'll just have to read stories of the game from all of you until next week or so. :)

After seeing how I can't reinstall my WSM2006 game on my new computer unless I get into a game of phone tag bitching with Digital River, I have woved never to go with a digidownload again for a version of FM, unless it's the very only option.

I know we have two keys but I apparently had to reissue my second one when I added a stick of RAM to my old computer and the hardware signature changed or something like that. Sucks.

FM

Hopefully they will use eLicence instead of Digital River. They did use eLicence for NHL EHM 2007.

Since WWSM2007 is an "Amazon Prime"-eligible item, I may just go ahead and order it from Amazon. Two-day shipping is free, and next day shipping is cheap. I'm glad my wife decided to go with Amazon Prime. It's lovely stuff. :)

And you can just cancel it in a couple months, paying nothing. Even better. :)

And since Amazon still lists it at only $29.99, it's a very good deal for you. :)

Sadly, they don't deliver to Canada and amazon.ca doesn't have WWSM, bleh.

FM

Got my notice today also -- woo-hoo!! Already planning a sick day for when it arrives..... :D

I have searched in the manual and on SI's site looking for an explanation on the new "opponent instructions" in tactics. How should I be using this? Is this for opponent player specific marking, tackling , etc?

I think it's mostly so that you have an easier time identifying the tactics being used against you at any point during the match, as opposed to only right before the match.

I finally ended up selling Curtis Davies last night when I got a ton of $25m offers (fortunately he didn't stay in EPL), and my fans ended up being disappointed about that, which I expected, but eh - it paid for four incoming transfers, so it's all good.

What I'm more concerned about is we made a boatload of cash, exceeded the board's preseason expectations...and they were 'disappointed' in our 10th place finish.

Egad, you guys.

You're right - for example if their dangerman is a winger who when he gets going is dynamite, but hs a poor first touch, I set the closing down for this player on this screen as 'Always', with the view that my FB will put pressure on him when he receives the ball that his poor 1st touch can't cope with.

Similarly, show onto weaker foot is ideal for a left footed right winger, or vice versa, as it should (if it works) force him away from goal and to use his weaker foot, reducing the danger...

In terms of national side managers, are all nations now eligible for you to manage rather than just the limited amount in FM06?

Anyone found some decent skins to use?

I'm looking for a skin that's almost exactly like the default one, but does a better job of differentiating the players' attributes from each other. Like 15-20 is green, 10-15 is yellow, and 0-10 is gray or something.

You can change that yourself. Lemme see if I can find the steps.

Go into the data folder and then click on the settings folder. Then open up the "fm colours" file in notepad. The lines you edit are right at the top.

colour name="low attribute" red="180" green="180" blue="0"/>
colour name="normal attribute" red="220" green="220" blue="0" />
colour name="good attribute" red="255" green="204" blue="0" />
colour name="excellent attribute" red="255" green="160" blue="0" />

That's awesome! Thanks!

Hrm, sadly that didn't work. Do I need to do something to make FM see the changes?

flere, is what he posted what the file already says, or what they need to be changed to?

Also, did you have FM already open, or did you make the changes, save the file, and THEN open it?

What he posted is what the file already says.

I had FM closed, made the changes, saved the file, and then opened FM. I also tried "reloading the skin" from the preferences (by clicking on "confirm").

I should note that I'm actually using the Vanilla PC Demo, not the real game, but anticipate wanting to do this with the real game when I (hopefully) get it in the mail this weekend.

flere, what settings were you trying to change it to? I'll give it a shot as I've got the full game, and I'll see if anything's different for you.

colour name="low attribute" red="150" green="150" blue="0"/>
colour name="normal attribute" red="200" green="200" blue="0" />
colour name="good attribute" red="0" green="0" blue="200" />
colour name="excellent attribute" red="0" green="200" blue="0" />

Based on trying these colors out in a paint program, I think they'd make it easier to see the differences in the attributes.

flere,

Uncheck the option about skin cache and check the one about reload skin on confirm, then click confirm.

That'll solve the problem.

dola,

That's without trying the settings you just posted. I fooled around with some of my own trying to make it work (red, yellow, green, teal).

They look good, FWIW. There's also a graphical one that looks damn good as well.

Hey, that worked great! Thanks!

No, sir. Thank YOU.

Fiddling around with that to see why it wouldn't work has resulted in a color scheme I like much, much better.

What RGB values did you end up using?

low is pure red - 255, 0, 0
average is pure yellow - 255, 255, 0
good is pure green - 0, 255, 0
excellent is teal - 0, 255, 255

Here's that graphical element, btw (you don't have to fool with anything else in fm colours.xml to see it this way. Just check the appropriate options in preferences):

This is one of the great things of FM skinning, everybody can have his FM looking as they want it. For example, I don't like a lot using blue, green stands more for me about being something good/correct (maybe from the traffic lights). So mine is more about dark red/light orange/light green and using a brilliant green for excellent. I like also having a darker background that doesn't distract me, edited the default with photoshop to have an almost black one.

Here are my settings:

low attribute" red="140" green="45" blue="60"
normal attribute" red="190" green="170" blue="60"
good attribute" red="110" green="230" blue="110"
excellent attribute" red="0" green="255" blue="0"

and a screen shoot:

Looks good, also using the graphics element is a good way of having some fog of war, you can see how long the bars are, but not the exact numerical value.

Icy, how'd you get the arrows to show up? Is that an XML edit or something in the preferences?

As far as the colors I chose, yeah, I went with red-yellow-green patterned after traffic signals, but to me the teal really stands out much better than the green, which is why I chose it for the excellent attributes. That way, the stuff a player really excels at jumps out at me. A guy having green across the board is great, but green won't draw my eye to something unusual or exceptional the way teal will.

Select it in the player view drop down menu.

Thank you, sir. That's an improvement. Now I can tinker better with training.

SackAttack - good call on turning off the skin cache. I forgot about that pesky little detail.

Fuck. An english friend sent me FM2007 and I got it today, but we have our first showstopper bug.

MLS is unplayable, the game crashes when you get an exchange offer.

ugh. that sucks. blah...part of me wants to go online and have FM shipped over from the UK and then give away my copy of WWSM when it gets here or something.

lol

Just got my copy from CD-Wow!!! Funny thing, on the back of the package it says "not for sale outside South East Asia". Will be loading tonight -- w00t!!!

I'll make sure this is looked at - is this a problem that occurs everytime? (if so it surprises me that it got through testing).

I had a copy of FM2006 that I bought from GoGamer last year that said the same thing on it. It worked fine, but I couldn't quite get it out of my mind that it was some pirated copy of the game and I was cheating SI out of good money. This year my copy from GoGamer is quite normal.

So, for anybody still with Amazon I got an e-mail saying there was a delay (What? REALLY?!?!) and apparently it won't ship untill Nov. 3rd, meaning the earlier it will arrive (w/next day shipping) is Monday Nov. 6th.

Depending on when the Digital Download version comes out, I may just take that. But I'm still not so sure about that given last years problems, and I don't mean the patch delay as that didn't bug me too much...but the game not working right (i.e. - hyperthreading not working).

Anyway, is this game ever going to be released properly over here? Just one year where things actually go right and it's all released on time and such, that'd be great. The way things are going American players are just going to feel less and less compelled to support the American version of the game because SEGA America and their retailers can never get anything right.

It's happened to me 5 times so far Marc. I created a thread on it on the SIGames board and uploaded the DMP file to the SI Games FTP (I put my nick (SirFozzie) on it to make sure it was recognized)

IIRC, I bought something a year or two ago from GoGamer that had the same label (and gave me the same worries). Can't remember what the heck game it was though.

Let me play devil's advocate here, but iirc no quickstart for the MLS are given in the demo, right? Or at least not that I've seen in the last few releases.

Wouldn't that be something you would have benefited from, at least to give you a headstart for the first patch? I say headstart because I wouldn't expect you to correct it for release, as I know the gold demo is based on the same thing as the released game. Just some food for thoughts, not that I care all that much, as I usually don't play in the MLS...

FM

what you said, without the angst. Foz has a copy of WWSM from Amazon for me, but at this point I could prolly order FM from England and get it right about the same damm day. :mad:

I also preordered from Amazon and received the same e-mail from them this weekend. I'm not in a rush to get the game but it is frustrating nonetheless.

The reason we only give out a few quickstarts with the demo is purely because each one has to go through seperate QA to the main game (as the demo exe is obviously different to the final CD based game).

This takes a considerable amount of time to do and thus we limit the demo quick starts to those which we believe most people will use (simply because our time is finite and we prefer to get the demo out before the game itself is released - this allows us to gain feedback from people prior to the games release and also allows users to make their minds up regarding purchasing the game in advance of it hitting retail).

thanks for explaining and I see your point of view but I think if you really want to hit on the North American market, you'll have to get people from this side of the pond a bit more involved, or at least feeling like they are more involved and more considered.

I still feel it's one heck of a game you got there, but I'm sold to your product and I'm buying the FM version of it. See the grumpling about the North American release for more example of what I mean.

FM

I've had multiple exchange offers in my MLS game and no crashes so far. /cross fingers

Try negotiating a trade where someone offers you a draft pick, and you want a player added.

So after writing Amazon, here's (part of) what I got...


Bah.

yep just had it happen

boy does that suck

ah good, Marc is viewing this. I sent him the steps that everyone can agree on seeing.

1. Getting an offer for a player from a computer controlled MLS team where they offer a draft pick for the player
2. Negotiating and adding a player to the trade (so they're offering a pick+player for your player)
3. They Respond..
4. Crash

I actually had a Player+Pick offered for a player but added another player so it's Player+Player+Pick for Player and they accepted and when I went to agree boom.

ok wow in my game Chelsea just bought Kaka from Milan for $102,000,000. :eek:

And Steven Gerrard was bought for 77 million. Daaaamn.

They way he's playing in my career, I wouldn't even sell him for that.

as I am really, really, really hoping my copy of the game will be in the mailbox when I get home today, you know, today being my birthday an all, so I'm beginning to think of a possible game setup. What kind of setup has everyone gone with on this version? Countries, leagues, kind of computer would be appreciated. How fast is it going for you?

Also, what are the options as far as level of details now? I think I saw something about having no details in some league, is that like basic details from FM2006?

My birthday/xmas gift was a new computer, an AMD X2 dual core 4200+ running at 2 Ghz with 2Gb or RAM so I'd think the game will fly on that kind of new setup ;)

FM

Not sure what kind of speeds you are comfortable with, but this game seems to move much faster for me than FM2006.

I was going to order from Amazon and (hopefully) have it here by next Monday, but I'll just wait for the first patch to come out, whenever that will be.

First at all happy birthday!

I bought exactly same processor and ram a month ago and i can say that FM flies on it. Once the first patch is released this could be the best FM ever.

Weehee!!!! It was indeed waiting for me in the mailbox :) Happy birthday to me :)


Well, I've always been used to some fairly slow speed, mostly due to the fact that I ran WSM2006 on my Athlon 2000+ (1.67Ghz/1GB RAM) with 3 or 4 nations. It would kind of crawl around the time of the transfer windows even with a small database. FM2007 being faster than 2006 is also what I have read elsewhere. Hopefully, it'll stay fast even after a few seasons...


Thanks Icy :)

May I ask how many leagues you are running on that sweet machine of yours? (it is indeed a nice little combo ;))

I read just a little about manageable vs non-manageable and then the level of detail. Will probably run some test over the next couple of days before I settle on one football universe...

If people have setups, feel free to share them.

FM