And we're into Turn 2. :-D

Who took the Chinese? (I'm at work and can't see the admin page)

Well damn, missed it again. By minutes too. You guys have fun.

let me know if i am holding things up, i can call my wife and get her to take my turn if i am the only one still on turn 2, since most of you all should be at home now

I don't get home until 2 am, so if anyone is gonna hold things up, it'll be me.

I did. I had been the Greeks in previous games, but did not see them, so I just took whatever was available.

Awesome. Welcome back.

WVUFAN

Another great idea for pitboss is do a succession game.

You guys just pick one civ you agree on and play against the ai CIVS.

Then each person on your team take 20 turns per person all sharing the same Civ.

It can bring up great discussions and strategy here.

Hrm. It's telling me that I have the wrong password when I try to log in to play turn number two. I know what password I set it up with (which isn't working), but just in case, I've run through every single other password I could have possibly used, and I'm getting nothing. Any ideas?

I don't have access to passwords. The only thing I could do when I get home is to kick you from the game, then you could rejoin with a new password.

Keep trying, and remember they're case-sensitive. If you can't get on tomorrow, lemme know and we'll kick and reset you.

WVU -- if you don't mind, can you just kick me, and I'll try again? Since we're both here, that might expedite the process.

I'm at work, so I don't have access. :-( I won't get home until 2 am EST.

Ah. No worries...should be about the time I get out of X-3 :)

I'll send you a PM when it's done. That way you should be able to retake the civ pretty quickly.

That's a great idea. We might try that after this game.

Are you talking about the first password or the second one? The password on the main page is "fofc" and then it will ask for your personal password when you try to open your civ...

Just FYI - I'm not sure the e-mail notification is working... I didn't get a notice when it was time to take another turn...

Jeebs is online now... and Sharon can't connect. There's some issue with the peer connection feature on this thing... we can't get online if anyone else is connected to the host.

You guys must have something funky going on there - this issue raises its head with you guys (we can't connect if you're on, you can't connect if we are). But there were three of us (other than you) on simultaneously this afternoon.

Are you guys playing from the same IP? Wonder if that could screw things up somehow.

I didn't get an e-mail notification either. I just checked in my spam and it wasn't there either...

I was getting warning that I couldn't connect, but as soon as I hit "OK" it let me take my turn. Did it a couple of times to me...

*shurg*

I've already posted the peer/peer issue on the tech forum, and I'll find out what's up with the turn notification as soon as I get home.

i'm done with turn 2

:o

Don't mind me...I'm just the idiot in the corner...

...WVU, I figured it out (well, Jeebs figured out that I'm a moron), no worries on booting me.

Vince: cool beans. :-)

In regards to the email notified, I have just been informed that Pitboss, even though it has the option in the program, "has yet to implement this feature in this beta version.".

Luckily some intelligent people over in the Civ techie forum has developed an app that does it. As soon as I get home, I'll test it out.

So fear not, we'll get email notifications yet. :-)

We're sharing an internet connnection, but I don't think that's the problem.

The issue happens even if it's just one of us online at a time.

Ok, I have the mod app for turn notifications set up, and I've checked it on my own email. It works.

What I need for everyone who wants notification is for you to either post here or PM me the email address that you want to be notified on. It has to be logged from the app.

As soon as I have it, you'l be added to the list. This is entirely your choice -- if you don't want email turn notifications, you don't have to be notified.

Anyway, PM or email me your email address if you want to be added to the reminder list.

Wow ..
 

dola -- so, the turn reset around 8:30 PM last night. It's 2 AM, 6 hours later, and we're only waiting on a single person till the next turn, out of 11 players. That's pretty doggone good.

I am wondering if the pitboss program has trouble with two of the participants in a game being from the same IP (especially with ICS). Then it wouldn't matter if you were on at the same time or not. Just trying to think through the problem, and WVUFAN said that the program had trouble running two games at the same time (which it shouldn't) and I notice that all of the sync problems mentioned so far either have been you guys having trouble, or others gagging when syncing with you.

You know my e-mail, Eric. Feel free to use it... :)

Well, I did my turn this morning, and the host seemed to stop responding. I'll double-check in a bit to see if it will actually let me do turn 3...

Okay, turn 3 is definitely rolling. What's weird is when I was on and it flipped turns, it wouldn't highlight any of my guys, the clock wasn't ticking, etc, but it said it was my turn. I tried moving a guy and nothing happened.

Log back in a bit ago (maybe an hour or so later) and the clock is moving and my guy executed my orders. Just looks like you need to be patient on a turn flop.

Jeeber, I had already added you. You should have received a turn notification when it switched this morning. Let me know if you didn't.

For everyone who PM'ed me, you've been added, and you'll begin getting notifications beginning next turn.

If anyone has Quotes or anything to add to the emails, let me know, as it has the ability to add quotes or phrases when it's sent out. This turn's quote is from the French, which stated very clearly "Viva La Japanese!".

Because we all know the Japanese rule.

That seems to be a part of Pitboss. Occasionally, it does what it calls a "grace period" of between 15 minutes to an hour when everyone does their turn or when the 24 hour clock expires. I dunno who they're giving the grace period to if everyone's turn is up, and it doesn't seem to do that every turn, but it does happen. I appreciate your patience, Gtelmack and everyone.

Despite all of the stuff that's happened, that's still 2 turns in less than a day. Pretty good stuff.

Ok... oddly enough, Sharon was able to connect to peer "Saldana" now, but I cannot... even after she disconnects. Weird.

Oh, an my e-mail is franklin.brown AT gmail.com ... sign me up for alerts. :D

Also... she's still seeing a German scout and settler wandering around...

Can't connect to host. Keeps timing-out.
This happened repeatedly between 1:05 and 1:20 EST

Same thing is happening on my end.

And Vince makes three.

gstelmack AT nc.rr.com

And I can't connect right now either.

Me too... I'm guessing Eric's machine is down.

Power outage. It's back up now. Sorry.

Seems that when I retired Germany, the AI took over. :-(. It's not supposed to do that.

EDIT: Had to reset Pitboss. NOW it's up and ready. :-)

Cool... I got right in that time.

Well, the German settler is just wandering around. By the time it settles, Sharon will have a warrior, and it will be an easy kill.

Tell Sharon I'm sorry about that -- when I set the game for "Take over AI" -- which I have to do in order to reset players for password issues -- when someone retires, instead of eliminating the Civ, it set it as an AI civ. It was either give up the option of resetting people who have forgotton passwords, or this.

And the next turn has started now that I took my turn.

Runtheball: I typed your email address in incorrectly (got a return notice, and realized I put an extra "j" in your addy), so I'll fix that when I get home. You won't get a notification email this turn because of that.

Everyone else should have gotten an email already about the new turn. Lemme know if you get one.

Notification seems to be working fine. Thanks, Eric!

Worked great for me.

Some Pitboss questions: how much CPU is it taking up? And it was easy to restart? I'd consider switching Raging Barbarians over to Pitboss, if it was okay with me doing some VS.NET stuff occasionally, and didn't mind going down for an hour or two while I played Oblivion.

I have a 2.4 mhz P4 with less than a gig of memory, and I'm able to run multiple things with no problem. Plus it's really easy to set up.

I can send you the email notification program if you like. That runs concurrently with Pitboss. Both mimimize to your tray when not in use.

You can close it down anytime. It'll put a save file on your desktop (or whereever), so save it before shutting it down and then start it up like any other program. I honestly rarely notice it unless I'm actually on it... and it doesn't feel like anything else I do on the computer is affected by it.

You do have to have .NET extentions on your CPU for it to work, though.

Yeah, the Germans have finally settled. Now it's a race to see who can pop out a warrior first...

Oh, and the e-mail notification is working for me. Could you add Sharon, too? sharon.brown AT gmail.com

Thanks!

I'll bet on the female...

I have another solution for this -- everyone let me know what you think. I will take control of the Germans. I will research NOTHING. Build NOTHING. Sharon can build the warrior and come over and kill them, and I won't stop it. It's a backhanded method of eliminating the civ, but again, Sharon shouldn't have to be in a race like this, since it's not fair to her.

The only thing I would ask is for her to raze the city, not conquer it. That way it remains fairer -- she'll get bonus points for destroying a civ, but that's to be expected.

Sound ok?

That solution works for me.

Peachy

I sent out a test email turn notification to the whole group, so if you have an extra turn notification for 3880 BC, that's the reason.

Anyway, new turn is up and ready to go.

I think that's a good final solution to the German problem.

;)

Beautiful.

EDITED to make sense:

At the time of this writing, 9:37 AM EST, the following people have taken their turn (3790 BC):

Me
GStelmack
Miller Time

My CPU rebooted itself after checking for windows updates, so check and make sure you've taken your turn. It autosaves at the beginning of each turn, but not again (automatically) until the NEXT round The last person who took their turn last round may have had their turn erased for this round, so check just in case.

Moved this to the Dynasty section at WVUFan's request.

I thought something was screwy. I was certain I made my move for this turn early on Monday. I checked back late Monday and saw that the game was waiting on both me and Jeeber. I'm guessing Jeeber already took his turn and is waiting for the email to tell him the next turn is ready, but since the CPU rebooted he actually has NOT made his turn.

This should have been posted as an email.
edit: JeeberD re-took his turn (my suspicions above were correct) with about 1 hour remaining on the clock. We're back in business!

No, you're right -- I should have emailed everyone about this. If it happens again, I will post and email.

anyone else unable to connect to the server this afternoon? i kept timing out and not getting in.

It's working now.

i'll play my turn when i get home tonight then. sorry if i am holding things up.

I doubt you are. Remember, the 24 hour clock is there for a reason. We're getting a minimum of a turn a day, which is pretty good in comparison to most leagues. I wouldn't worry about holding things up.

If anyone is holding things up, it's me and my stupid computer losing connection. I'm trying to do some things that'll fix that, so my apologies.

Actually, I was the last one to take the turn today... can't connect from work, and didn't get home until late.

After a very short down-time, the game is back online. So take your turn if you weren't able to in the past hour.

FYI - Sharon whacked Bismark. Doesn't appear to have boosted her score any or anything.

So Germany's gone, eh?

Awesome. :-)

Was wondering where this post went. I want to keep tabs to see how it progresses.

We're at 3700. We're averaging a little over a turn a day, and Germany has already been eliminated. Things are moving fairly smoothly, and the email turn notification is working.

So far, despite my CPU dying a few times, it's going fine as far as I'm concerned.

So what does everyone else think?

While you're here, Eric...

I'm trying to set up our PBEM as a Pitboss as we speak. But how in the heck do I find out my SMTP info? I entered in my IP there but when I try to connect I'm not having any luck...

Don't add your SMTP in Pitboss -- it's in beta, and doesn't work. I can send you the turn notification program.

How you get it your SMTP settings? You have to access your POP3 settings. I dunno what it is from hotmail. It's usually smtp.SERVERNAME.com.

OK, so tell me what I'm doing wrong...

I start up the Pitboss.exe
I choose "None" for mod
I'll go ahead and leave all the SMTP stuff blank
Choose "Direct IP" for network
Choose "Load game" and select the last file you sent me
And then this screen comes up



What do I have to do from there? If I try to connect it times out on me...

As soon as I get home, I'll look and find out what needs to be added.

Cool, thanks...

Bad News ...
 

I've been told that as of now, you cannot convert PBEM games to Pitboss, but that several people are trying to make mods that will allow it.

They're also saying that when the Pitboss goes out of beta, this option will be available. :-(

OK. I'll take my turn and then send it on to Franky, then...

I just took my turn, which flipped it to the next turn. I took that one too.

I'm really enjoying this so far. Just out of curiousity, though...what happens if the time limit is reached for any given day?

Oh my, I spy some neighbors!

Who do you see?

On a side note, I have decided to rename my capital city Nintendo, in honor of one of Japan's greatest exports.

My second city will be called Sega, but it will probably fail.

The civ continues to research what was already set, and build what's in the queue, but no units move and no new things not in a queue are built.

Jeeber:

I found a mod that allows PBEM games to be converted to Pitboss:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=167669

Hope this is helpful.

Unable to contact host.

Me, too. I'll check back after the kids are in bed.

So far, I am REALLY enjoying this. Slow-paced enough for me to pay attention, but a nice clip of 1-2 turns a day to keep interest up.

That means my internet's down. I'm at work; I'll be home at 2 am to check and reset. Sorry, guys.

I'm enjoying this a good bit as well, to throw in my two cents. Lots of fun.

The game is back up.

dola --

I think I'm either on an island, or have a large mountain range that cuts me off from the rest of the world. I have a large area, it seems, all to myself, only accessable via boat.

I like it. Do the rest of you prefer to be segregated from the rest of the civs or do you like more room for expansion?

I haven't played much multiplayer yet, so I don't have a handle on what I prefer there. In solo play, I like to be cut off from the AI civs.

Our warrior roams the wilderness aimlessly, hoping the natives will point him in the right direction. Meanwhile, our commoners try to teach themselves which end of the pointy thing to stick the other guy with.

Is it down again? I can't even ping 24.239.76.92....

Try it now. Was doing some work on the PC.

Well, I think I'm in a good place. I'm at the end of a large pennisula, with a fair amount of space to work with, a nice river running through it, and it's got a mountain range protecting me from the other civs. So, it seems the only access the other civs will have to Japan will be through boats, and that's a good thing.

Has anyone made contact with other civs yet?

my capital city is protected by lots of Tundra. Which isn't exactly something that excites me.

I see you creeping around my borders Jeeber...

i havent seen or heard from anyone yet, and thats the way i prefer it....the british are a highly xenophobic people

wvu, looks like your internet is down at home again, i cant connect

It's back up. Stupid cable internet. :(

I'm gonna toss out an idea here to pick up the pace a bit, just for the next few turns. Not suggesting we do this regularly, just right now since we all have only one or two units to move anyway, and turns take only a couple minutes. If we could all arrange to be online at the same time for even just a half hour, we could probably get through at least 5-10 turns, maybe more. If we had an hour, even better. I know there's little chance that 11 people can coordinate to be online at the same time, and if its not all 11 of us it won't work. But maybe if we could post the times we'd be available and willing to play, we'd find some overlap. Again, its not likely to work, but I want to give it a try.

I have a very flexible schedule, and can arrange to be online at virtually any time everyone else agrees upon. But I'll suggest friday, saturday, or sunday evening June 9, 10, 11 from 8pm to 1am EST.

Friday and Sunday evenings I'm working, and Saturday night I already have plans to go out...

Good times for me would be today, tomorrow, or Friday from say 8am to probably 5pm (central time)...

Mr Stelmack, sir, I thiink we should join forces and take over the WORLD!

Uhhh...did I just say that in front of everybody?