Why have the alarms stopped? Why don't I hear anyone else? Where did everyone go?

Day 1 voting usually goes strictly along the lines of lynch the quiet ones, the idea being that even if you don't get a wolf, you at least don't lose anyone who's contributing heavily to the game.

Wow, seems to have gone completely the opposite here. Wait for someone to make a little mistake, then...pop goes the bandwagon.

I tried that last game (the wait for someone to make a mistake bit). Didn't work out so hot for me. :( (At that, the little mistake didn't correctly indicate the guy's status, either. :eek: )

I need a little history/rules on this voting stuff.

Since there's no one around, I'll sulk back to my room. Maybe we'll get some candidates tonight.

AE: We vote for whom we think is one of the aliens. There's four of them, so that means that eleven of us are good guys. You vote by bolding your text:


If you want to change your mind post something like this:

Aha. Is it PMed, or is it posted in the thread?

To vote, active players post in this thread.

(sent the rest in PM, since it deals with WW strategy)

Wow. Less then six hours to deadline, and not one vote. This is going to be interesting.

Like a well thought out chess move.

Yeah...I'm really surprised at the inactivity.

I have the following people posting since the start of this "day":
Myself
hoopsguy
digamma
Blade6119
CW
Neon_Chaos
kingfc22
Peregrine
Vincex2
Jeeber
Raiders Army

Ones that I don't see:
Swaggs
Qwikshot
Schmidty
Fouts

There may be compilation errors here. And of course, the "get the quiet ones" strategy isn't necessarily more successful.

Dola, after what happened the last time I led off the voting, I'm not taking the responsibility this time. :)

"Hell, I'll start this off. Where's Schmidty been? Skulking around behind us? Pretty quiet ain't he? I'll cast my vote for him!"

vote Schmidty

Ok, instead of a crap shoot vote that could cost us dearly in the form of a key member of the team(im sure some guys have powerful roles to counter what fozzie hinted at the aliens having, as well as him saying one could see the roles of the dead), does anyone have a strategy to take into this first vote. Either everyone is scared of getting killed, or everyone is gone, but either way we have to vote soon so lets get this going. Id say we go with someone who posted, but not often...there have been many comments on here as to killing the silent ones, so if any of the aliens read this thread, they would be stupid to sit idly by right now in my mind. But i wouldnt think they would want to be on everyones list yet, so in my mind posting 2-3 times is a great strat for them. With that in mind, and in conjunction with wednesday's list, i say we target of "those." I also think fozzie mixed up the aliens between long time vets and quiet rooks as to make it tougher. So in sumnation i guess, ill vote randomly out of the 2-3 guys meeting my reqs(qwikshot said he would be gone, so im not counting him...yet), and end up with:

Blade6119 votes for Digamma

Looks like the activity is starting to pick up a little bit - was very dead yesterday when I was around. I've been thinking about who to pick initially with absolutely nothing to go on. And, in X-Com tradition, the first to die is usually Blade6119.

Blade, sorry this is pretty random. But if you do end up being the first one dead I think there is some comedic value for the people who have read the threads in the past. Hope we start to put something together soon so I have a better rationale than what makes me chuckle.

Vote Blade6119

Been working on these computers with no luck. I suppose we have to use our own logic to figure out who these aliens are.

Maybe if we take a blood sample from each person, then we can determine who is different?

While I like the idea, Fouts, I'd assume we're on our own.

[out of context]
It's my little brother's birthday, and I'm about to be inundated with family. Because of that, I'm going to be forced to vote now, in case I don't get back in time.
[/out of context]

This seems to be a complete shot in the dark at the beginning...so far we have three votes, and three different people. With abosolutely no idea who to vote for, I'm going to make it four.

I vote Swaggs.

Vote Schmidty

Simply because he has not made a sound.

I guess I'll go along with the take out a silent guy strategy.

Blade, I'm a good guy. It's simply been the weekend. Not many people have posted more than a few times in the thread.

Vote Schmidty

Ugh. Just came home from a friend's bday bash. It's 4:30-somthing in the morning. And I've reread through the thread. I like the idea of voting for Schmidty, he certainly has been a silent guy.

But I have to say that bandwagoning is not my style. I will have to go with Qwikshot, another one of the silent guys.

Vote Qwikshot

dola

If Jeebs turns out to be a freaking alien, I'm going to kick myself. I'm going to bed. We'll just see if we get to kill a damn alien on day one.

Perhaps you should read through a little more carefully before splitting us into categories like this.

Sounds about right to me!

Vote Blade6119

If I missed you posting earlier in the "day", I apologize. I wasn't looking for people posting since the announcement of the roster, only posts since the start of the "day".

Nothing better to go on, so I'll pile on.

Vote for Blade6119

Vote Schmidty due to absence of contribution.

I could be persuaded to change if there's a spirited defense.

Nothing from Schmidty, so I say we blast em!!

Vote for Schmidty

By my count, it's 5-3 with about 10 minutes left.

Damned if I do, Damned if I don't

vote Schmidty

The Votes are Tabulated as follows:

Schmidty (Peregrine, KingFC22, digamma, Mr. Wedensday, Fouts, Qwikshot) - 6
Blade6119 (Swaggs, JeeberD, hoopsguy) - 3
Digamma (Blade6119) - 1
Swaggs (Vince) - 1
QwikShot (Neon_Chaos) - 1

NO VOTE:Coffee Warlord, Schmidty, Raiders Army

After the final vote has been tabulated, Schmidty tries to hide in the corner, as a hidden sonic cannon pops out of the ceiling and starts to track him. He manages to dodge and duck a couple times, but even in a large room, sooner or later, you just run out of clear space. He makes a last dodge, trying to get some cover, but there's a audible screech as the Sonic Cannon primes and fires...

and the result, is messy, unsanitary, and undoubtedly fatal.

The computer beeps a couple times, and flashes the following message.

"Unable to determine if former X-Com member Schmidty was a X-Com agent or ectoplasmic source due to firing of automated base weaponry. Will update ectoplasmic count 0900 hours Zulu."

You look at each other. Some are grim, some are happy just to survive the day. All you know is.. one of your own is dead, and at your own hands. You just hope their death will keep you from your own down the line.

The X-Com Departed List:

Schmidty: Blasted (Group Vote) Day 1

This concludes Day 1. All Night 1 actions including targeting, protecting and viewing are due by 7:00 AM EDT.

Hilarious. I'm getting votes because I haven't been tied to my computer.

It's been beautiful this weekend and we've been all over (Deception Pass, Lake Paden, etc.) Oh well, vote me out and score one for the filthy aliens. Have fun losing fellow grunts. As for me, I'm going out back to grill some steaks and have a Corona or 6. :)

"I told you that computer is broken! Unable to determine, did you hear that! This damned thing can't tell an alien from a human!"

Come one aliens!!!! Kick these morons asses!!! :D

Word. When will I see action?

If CW or Raiders don't show up in the next day or so, you'll take over one of their roles, AE.

OK, pretty confident before the announcement that Schmidty was a good guy. His use of the word "grunt" is what I'm basing this on. That name had not been mentioned yet in this thread (use the search on the first three pages to verify this) but it matches my role in the game. Based on that, I'm pretty certain we will see that the aliens have escaped the random first kill.

So, lets take an early look at voting patterns here. Schmidty and Blade were tied 3-3 with an hour to go. There were three votes in the last hour, each for Schmidty. No one voted for Blade in that time.

When we learn that Schmidty was in fact a grunt, I think we have four compelling candidates to look at:

Blade
Mr. Wednesday
Qwikshot
Fouts

I don't think they are all aliens, but I'm guessing two of them are if we do learn, as I expect, that Schmidty was not ectoplasmic.

Also, I realize that by posting this I'm making my survival past this night a little (???) less likely. But I don't want to take a random death tonight and be in a position where I can't post my thoughts for the duration.

We should have gone after Blade. The X-Com gods will not be happy that Blade6119 wasn't the first to go... :mad:

I'm here, I'm here. Apologies, today was roleplaying day.

(typo edit)

Not the penguin hat again.

While i wish to appease the x-com gods, their can be only reason behind this blasphemy. My former x-com brethren must all be aliens, becuase aliens never killed me...it was always my teamates or grenade shrapnel(BLOODY GRENADE SHRAPNEL!!!)...Im sorry i lived ;)

I apologize for not voting. We went to a Band Concert outside tonight since it's not humid for once. I forgot about voting since the thread was so lackluster in opinions.

That being said, I'll have to look at the votes to see how things are going. Poor Schmidty.

I'm sure that was heartfelt after my history of screwing you over. ;)

I'm confused. Why not lump Peregrine, kingfc22, or digamma in there but you include Blade? I understand the fact that three votes in the last hour were for Schmidty by three of those guys, but the fact remains that Peregrine, kingfc22, and digamma were just as much to blame. They could've changed their votes. While I agree with your list of suspects, I would widen it a bit to take into account the others. The other thing is that it wasn't a close vote either...which doesn't make me feel as bad for not voting.

i was never behind schmidy, and was tied with him for 6 minutes until 2 more votes went through for schmidty, and another a half hour later. If you believe me to be the alien boss, and that i can organize a team in 6 minutes to respond, let alone all be on for such a defense, thats outlandish.

Sorry, Schmidty. :(

eh? Was it you who tried to kill me in Werewolf VI? I forgot about what happened in that game since things went so fast and furious. I thought you got killed pretty early in that game as well.

There's a lot of hate in the room right now.

If it makes you feel any better, im getting votes last round and now becuase godzilla coulnt keep me alive and people voted for you...great :rolleyes:

Werewolf V to be precise. :)

RA, the three that I cited chimed in late when Blade was in danger. I would weight those heavier than the other three. But obviously we have to consider anyone who voted for a proven non-alien.

I don't want to get too far ahead of myself here. We don't know yet that Schmidty wasn't an alien. But when (OK, if I guess) it is revealed that he was in fact a grunt then we need someplace to start. And the guy who got off the hook, plus the people who swung the vote away from him, seem like a logical place to start.

Sounds good to me as a starting point. Of course it could all be a coincidence, but without anything else to go on at this point, it looks good to me.

Dola, going to bed for tonight. I'm gonna lock my door and for all you aliens out there, you'd better be aware that I have a special "MacGuyver"-like trap for you if you attack me. :)

Alright, since this is about me in part i should address his concerns since, if what you say is true as to your role, our roles are one in the same. Firstly, i cant say im sad i wasnt targeted more heavily over the last hour...it allows me to further assist my brothers in this battle against the green bastards(were they even green, idk). Secondly, although i certainly see the pattern your looking at, you have to look at the beginning of the voting too.

Not only were you the FIRST person to vote against me, hence giving you bias to support your caim as to not seem like a vote jumper(typical trait of the guilty), you yourself said it to be a random vote carrying no weight. I wouldn't have been in a close situation coming up to the vote if it had not been for your random voting. Secondly, i was never behind schmidy, and was tied with him for 6 minutes until 2 more votes went through for schmidty, and another a half hour later. If you believe that i can organize a team in 6 minutes to respond, let alone all be on for such a defense, thats outlandish.

Now in my proffesional x-com opinion, hoopsguy very well may be defelcting attention off himself, but ill give him the benefit of the doubt for now as he seems to have positive intentions. First round voting usually follows bandwagon and silent guy voting, both of which fit schmidty. The fact that i was close due to my x-com history shouldnt be held against me.

I think the people who voted alone for someone cannot be discounted. This would be ideal, as it avoids your bandwagon strategizing yet also avoids the silent guy stereotype. The aliens arent going to put themselves in the spotlight, which is what you and i, as well as those who voted for schmidty at the end have done. Without looking, can you tell me people who voted who didnt vote for either of the top two, and better yet who they voted for....exactly.

Ah...it was my own fault. I got a little too vocal and got hung. I won't make that mistake again...then again, I was pretty vocal in VI at the end as well. :)

Okay...really going to bed now.

Interesting that we won't know what his role was until "0900 zulu."

I think that Schmidty's use of the word 'grunt' is fairly telling -- sounds like we hurt our chances a little with that vote. Not sure what to make of hoopsguy's list...but it can't be that bad to look at the people who jumped in at the end.

Hopefully, we can divine some meaning from the vote and the results of the night action. The timing of my vote was innocent, but I don't really expect anybody to believe that just on my say-so.

Well, I had to vote for someone. I just want to survive this. Technicians aren't very good soldiers, so I may seem a little frazzled at times.

Here's to you, Schmidty. :( After that lengthy explanation from hoopsguy, I am convinced that you're also a grunt. I had a gut feeling that something fishy was going on when those first three votes came piling in for Schmidty, though... it was, however a crapshoot indeed. At least now we have something to go with, and I can start some sort of simple analysis.

I think that the Aliens/Werewolves are generally smarter this time around. Everyone now knows that the late votes are probably going be damning pieces of evidence, and I'm not sure if they're likely to fall for that sandtrap in this game

hoopsguy, your analysis is pretty solid, and it highlights four very obvious choices for Aliens. But, as I've learned from experience, what is obvious isn't necessarily the truth.

What if they're just playing us between two honest XCOM guys in Blade and Schmidty? Think people! Let's not get too caught up with what is obvious, because I have a feeling that we're all being played against each other right now.

Aside from the 'damning' evidence in the last three votes, I'm also going to look at the initial votes that came in, and the early bandwagon votes for Schmidty and Blade6119.

(As to why I am pretty paranoid. I was a finger-pointer in the WW5 game, and apparently all my finger-pointing led to my co-villager's demise. :( )

I think you're all aliens.

Neon, we still have more data to look at from night actions before going too far down this path. However, I would like to think that we can come up with some way to pull information from the first vote. My feeling on day one is that it is random until it isn't random anymore. At 3-3, I don't think it was random. That isn't to say that the four people I listed are the four aliens ... very doubtful.

As for playing two honest XCOM guys against each other, I was the first one to pull out Blade. If we are going down that line of thinking, then you had better put me on the suspects list. But I'm also the first guy to go public with an identified role here.

A question I'm very interested in has to do with the roles people have come up with so far. I'm having a hard time believing that there are six unique X-Com roles besides the grunt role that Schmidty and I (appear to) share. Which makes me smell BS on some of the major/sgt/pilot/tech/squaddie/etc. It is one thing to try and role-play the game a little bit. But it also potentially acts as a smokescreen when we are trying to identify the roles assigned by SirFozzie.

Here are those roles, identified earlier in the thread:

Self-proclaimed roles:
Peregrine - major
Neon_Chaos - squaddie
JeeberD - sergeant
Coffee Warlord - master sergent
Swaggs - sergeant
Vince - squaddie
Kingfc22 - pilot
Fouts - tech


Identified roles:
Schmidty - grunt
Me - grunt

No indication:
Digamma
Blade
Raiders Army
Qwikshot
Mr. Wednesday

I don't want to wander too far down the path of roles as I think it could be distracting from the original friends of Blade list: Blade, Wednesday, Qwikshot, Fouts. Just some more food for thought when we get the information at 0900.

Edited to correct the number of unique roles in the list.

I just said Sergent because that was what I was in GB's X-Com II dynasty. I am fairly certain that several of the others did the same thing.

I, and presumably most others, have not given up my role yet. It is too early for that, in my opinion.

Is it just me or does hoopsguy keep trying to point out everyone else, yet continue to over-exclaim how innocent he is and claim to be a grunt. Im not saying hes an alien, he just seems to be trying hard to blame everyone and make himself seem entirely innocent...seems like a lot of inpositioning for a x-com member, but maybe im seeg things

Yup...

Up to this point, I have focused on a group of four people, with you in that group. I'm not sure what the right way to protest innocence is in these games, but at this moment I'm not exactly warming up to you. I'm sure it is mutual - particularly if you have tentacles.

Swaggs, Jeebs - that makes perfect sense. I don't think everyone should reveal their roles at this junction. Besides, people might not believe you even if you are telling the truth. But it does add a little bit of confusion if people try to take the self-proclaimed roles at face value.

Yes, the feeling is mutual. Im just not someone who likes to sit idly by and watch someone bully around a group of people while playing the angel role. You criticize others for self-proclaiming roles, then do the same and leave your own name off that list. You then place it under the sure roles along with a dead schmidty. You speak of others smokescreens and are playing a bigger one then any other person i can currently see. I though, unlike you, have kept my head clear when voting and stuck to what i believe to be the right strategy.

You on the other hand, voted on random(my fictional character in GB's dynasty) or off ill-will, while i voted on an exact formula(voting for digamma based on his posting frequency compared to others). It just annoys me to hear you glorify how innocent you are then point others out. You initially claim the group of four, a mere half of the group that defeated your canidate, then just recently pointed out a different group of people for the roles they claimed to have(which appeared to me to be the roles they held in GB's dynasty). Im still not going to say i feel your the right person to vote off currently, but i feel your playing a bully role of "look at the other guy"

Funny, I don't remember supporting Blade. I only remember having to decide between two people and picking the quiet one.

As for my role, yes, I am a research technician who made a huge mistake returning to this god forsaken place. I must have been in a druken stupor to agree to this reunion.

ok, for now im going to hold off my little squabble...i apologize to everyone in the game for allowing any emotion into it, i just didnt like the way he was playing, but in the end its just a game. Ill withdraw for awhile, and let him and everyone play the way they want to play. i just want everyone to have a proper insight into things...not just hoopsguy's

I put my name on the list because I know my role. That is the only role I know at that point - I don't know Schmidty for sure is a grunt until tomorrow morning.

If anyone uses my list to help their thought process, I would encourage them to view my self-identified role with the same level of trepidation as I'm viewing the other self-identified roles. On anyone's own internal list, they know exactly what role they play.

Where, exactly, have I failed to keep my head clear when voting? I know you don't like being in the line of fire but I'm curious where my logic is breaking down in your mind.

Just in case I'm not being direct enough, I'm not trying to steer the vote to you (or any of the other three I've been pretty consistent in mentioning) because I voted for you in round one. I'm trying to emphasize that there was late voting action towards a (seemingly) innocent guy and that you benefitted from it. I think that makes for a good place as a starting point for tomorrow. Interestingly enough, I don't see Mr. Wednesday taking as much umbrage to this point of view as you are ... nor Fouts, although I'm going to be naturally suspicious of him from my last werewolf game. I'm trying to work through that issue, however, and look at this logically.

without instigating this further, two posts ago you called it the "friends of blade list," and upon every one ive seen you have listed me on top of that list...couple that with you voting for me an i see a need to be defensive...i might be mistaken, but thats how it comes off. Any attempts by me to defend or counter have been due to that viewpoint, that im under attack. You say otherwise, so ill back off...if the roles had been reversed would you have done differently hoops?

I don't know, Blade. Obviously it isn't fun being fingered, innocent or guilty.

Yeah, Squaddie is just X-Com lingo for a non-rookie. The first promotion in the video game is to Squaddie, and since I was around at the beginning and near the end of the dynasty (it was my idea, actually :)), but not much in the middle, I figured that was appropriate for my 'title.'

Alright. Reading through some of this mess....

Point one, yes. I called myself Massah Sergeant because that I was indeed a grizzled old Sarge in the dynasty. Master Sergeant, 'cause, well...I'm a badass and all. :)

And point two...frankly, I have somewhat of a feeling Blade and Hoopsguy are both on our side. I doubt any werewolf/alien/creature/slimey thing from mars would openly bicker so much this early in the game.

Only one of us knows, as i have hesitated to call you out for i cant say for certain anyone is an alien yet. Im trying to make the right calls instead of the obvious one...another soldier menitoned how the obvious route if often wrong, and im trying to win this for us...cant do that by guessing wrong based off circumstantial voting evidence and the lot...well, at least i cant, but then again im not an alien, so who knows why you can

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I just don't see taking a lot of umbrage as being especially productive, at this point. I don't have anything other than my own word to offer for the reason for the timing of my actions -- I maintain that it's innocent, but you have only my word for that. I'm hoping that come morning, we'll be able to combine the votes with the results of the night actions to come up with an appropriate action that doesn't involve turning the defense systems on me. :)

Just finished eating lunch. Whew, read and reread the thread a bit.

hoopsguy, I agree with the whole random until it isn't random thing. And I see that at 3-3, things are pretty suspicious. I'm not one to blatantly point fingers (well, this time around. :) ), but your list does indeed help make some kind of informed decision.

Here's a chart of how voting went down.

Peregrine - voted for Schmidty
Blade6119 - voted for digamma
hoopsguy - voted for Blade6119
Vince - voted for Swaggs
kingfc22 - voted for Schmidty
digamma - voted for Schmidty
Neon_Chaos - voted for Quikshot
JeeberD - voted for Blade6119
Swaggs - voted for Blade6119
Mr. Wednesday - voted for Schmidty
Fouts - voted for Schmidty
Qwikshot - voted for Schmidty

If I wasn't out for the night on my friends' party, I would have probably started the voting, and I admit, I would have voted for Schmidty. When I came home, I saw three votes placed for him with noone else voting for the other 1-vote guys, I decided to go and see if anyone else would bandwagon on other people so I went with Qwikshot.

What really bites me in the ass is how the initial four votes were on four different people, Peregrine for Schmidty, Blade6119 for digamma, hoopsguy for Blade6119 and Vince for Swaggs, and how those votes whittled down to 2 choices. Two consecutive Schmidty votes (kingfc22 and digamma), and then I break the cycle with a vote for Qwikshot. And then we get two consecutive Blade votes (JeeberD and Swaggs). And of course the final 3 deciding votes that came within the last hour for Schmidty (Mr. Wednesday, Fouts, Qwikshot). Funny how digamma and Swaggs got lost in the mix of initial targets, and how we had 5 choices right there and whittled it down to two. (digamma voted for Schmidty after kingfc22 did, Swaggs voted for Blade after JeeberD did).

I still think that it's stupid for the aliens to blatantly jump on the bandwagon at the last minute to save a fellow alien. That would just finger them all out and get them all killed.I think most of us have played this game long enough to realize that most of the time, it's the middle votes that are usually the suspicious ones.

Blade, you are still suspicious in my book, and I cannot discount the fact that 3 guys did pile on Schmidty towards the end. but I just can't get this nagging feeling that we're following the wrong trail... specially when all the blatant opposition against voting for you tomorrow is coming from... well, just you. And we certainly aren't getting any opposition from you calling hoopsguy as a suspicious character as well.

I still think that everyone's a suspect at this point. And those middle votes (yes, including me) deserve to be picked and prodded as well.

Again, let's think, guys. Are we being played? We've all been down this 'obvious' route before you know, and it always doesn't turn out good.

The Night Actions will indeed give us more insight. I just hope I didn't ruffle up any feathers with my analysis. :(

CW: About the Blade/hoopsguy bickering, I also am thinking along that line, hence my analysis.

btw, if i recall my previous board-identity (PsychoCop) was just a Squaddie in the original X-Com dynasty, before dying in a frikkin' alien scout ship mission. Sheesh. :) I'm sure most everyone also probably put in their ranks when they were in the dynasty.

wow. that was... lengthy. :)

Just FYI, I used Major since I assumed my character had stayed in service after the alien wars and gotten a few promotions since then.

I tend to believe Hoopsguy, he was the first one to mention that Schmidty claimed to be a grunt, and since I was also told I had a grunt role, that's fairly convincing evidence. Of course anyone since then doesn't have the same trust since we'll all claim to be grunts (even me!)

Personally I'm a little suspicious of people that were the only vote for someone. Not that bandwagoning is a good thing, but on the first day with not much else to go on, it's usual for a bandwagon to form. But it's great camouflage to be off on your own voting for a single person, who's going to question that? I'll be keeping an eye on Vince and Neon_Chaos for those reasons.

I'd also like to mention that we're going to have to be really careful here. Unless there's some heavy duty alien killing roles, the odds are heavily stacked against us here, 4 aliens in 15 players...just wow.

Please stop editing your messages. :)

And I believe we might be down to 4 aliens in 14 players. For the record, I said I wouldn't be as vocal in this game, since when I start to get vocal I become a target of opportunity for the wolves, creatures, aliens. I think this game I'll try to be absolutely sure of who I point the finger to before I post something...then again, I was absolutely sure in the last games as well and they got villagers and bandits killed.

I do believe that hoopsguy and Blade are both good guys since Coffee Warlord spelled it out pretty well. In past games, the ones who were willing to fight it out were both good guys while the bad guys were content to let us pick each other off.

Well, after I've looked at the past two games again, I'm sure the aliens' best strategy is to let us pick each other off. It worked in V and VI. I'm going to be out of the office for much of today with the exception of lunch, so I won't be posting much until after 5 EST.

The night passes by quickly..

Until at 0330 hours.. there is a long, drawn out scream. A scream of the most pain ever imagined.. scraping both nerves and vocal cords. It goes on and on and on and on and on.. . Some of you have heard that scream before.. and it sets your teeth on edge. None of you dare venture out of your rooms to determine the cause however. Finally, the voice, now hoarse finally stops short and dies out.

At 0900 Zulu you all troop out into the main room, and to your surprise.. there's all 14 of you.. what was the night scream then..

Then your eye wanders to the computer screen.. and suddenly, what was a good thing, (all of you living through the night) has suddenly turned into a bad thing.

There are now FIVE ECTOPLASMIC SOURCES.

Sending out some PM's to folks who have decisions to make..

Peregrine - agreed on all counts. I hardly think that the list I'm putting forward is exactly the list of aliens. But I think we need a strategy for today that isn't totally random. Neon - that is where I'm struggling a little bit with your analysis. If we discount the obvious to look for the less obvious, then where does that leave us? Back to day 1, where we are making random guesses?

I don't want to pull a Thomkal and tell everyone how to vote (or else!) ... just not my style. But I do want to make sure I have put my cards on the table early enough to help out in the event that I learn in two hours that I've been reduced to a puddle of goo by a plasma attack.

OK, this is really confusing ... no kills?

The bad news is the aliens can convert - which means that we really need to find some way to get more than one alien per night or this is over in two nights, barring a cap on total number of conversions.

Fozzie, when do we get our confirmation on Schmidty the grunt?

The computer displays the following.

"98% confidence in the following.

Base Computer theorizes that target Schmidty was not an alien for the following reason. There were four ectoplasmic sources yesterday when target Schmidty was neutralized. There are more then four ectoplasmic sources today, which would theorize that Schmidty was not an ectoplasmic source, therefore human. Disabling further voice input."

Submit votes and response to PM's by 8 PM EDT.

Duh - thanks.

Oh. And 1 admin note: Please do not reveal your roles after your death. No harm no foul on the Schmidty reveal (after all, he hadn't been around all day), but it could change things.

So anyone have an alternate course of action to narrowing in on the group of four from earlier?

Blade, MrWednesday, Fouts, Qwik

I know where my suspicions lie among these guys but I'm not close to being ready to vote yet. I'm hoping someone comes out of the woodwork with some new information to make this a little easier ...

I still think you're all aliens.

5 aliens with 14 of us left? Yoinks, SirFozzie, you better have some major tricks up your sleeves to help us or we're done for fast. Remember, I asked for us to all be terminated first! It's the only way to be sure...

The Thomkal Vote with me...or Else plan(tm). I like it! :)

Oh crap. Alien conversions ain't a good sign...

This is bad. Very bad. We'd better get an alien on day 2. :(

What, me have some nasty twists and turns up my sleeves.

OF COURSE I do :D.

Hmmm...this is gonna be tough and things don't look too good for us.

5 out of 14 of us are aliens. That's over one-third. If the previous Werewolf game rules apply, all they need is two more to win the game (i.e. half are aliens). That means that tonight could be the deciding vote??

I don't see the game ending this quickly though. Do they have to convert everyone or just achieve an equal amount of aliens vs. humans?

Even if they don't, here is how it could *potentionally* go down tonight:

We vote to kill a good guy. They convert another good guy.
6 aliens out of 13 people. I have to believe that somebody has a secret power to take these guys out. Since we have no weapons (the armory is locked), somebody has to be able to do something. If the seer out there saw something last night, this may be the point to bring their numbers down to a more manageable level.

Dola, and if the computer can detect the ectopasmic sources, why doesn't it just take them out? :)

Clearly, the inability of the computer to localize the sources after detecting them is a major drawback. :)

Hudson: Well that's great, that's just fuckin' great man. Now what the fuck are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty shit now man... That's it man, game over man, game over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?
Burke: Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?

On a more serious note...

...crap. Odds weren't good already, and now we have another one to deal with? Waiting for SirFozzie to throw us a bone probably isn't a great strategy, but making a mistake is an even worse outcome. I don't know if we'll be able to find out anything definitive based upon yesterday's voting, but we're going to have to try.

All the sensors can do is detect by the AMOUNT of ectoplasmic particles.. not sources.

Besides, it'd be too easy this way :D