Well, I'm back from class. If I were a wolf, I wouldn't be stupid enough to openly defend another wolf.

I have a list of suspicious characters that I'm tracking.

Yes, I lost power last night. We had some wicked storms come through. Gimme a sec...

The votes are cast, and one of your fates is sealed. You've selected Blackadar. You surround him, lift him up, and as you are sliding the noose around his neck, he begins to change. His hair begins to grow, and as he struggles, you watch him turn into a werewolf before your eyes!

Soon it is over. He is dead, and you all congratulate each other on a job well done.

Here's the vote tally (I let the late votes count).

Blackadar: 6 (mrsimperless, Raiders Army, GWB, JeeberD, Schmidty, Token Asian Guy)
Buzzbee: 2 (Thomkal, Raven)
Schmidty: 4 (heybrad, Fouts, kingfc22, Blackadar)
JeeberD: 1 (Neon_Chaos)
Raiders Army: 1 (henry296)

I have some of your night actions already. Please send me the others ASAP. I'll have a night turn as soon as I get everyone's PM.

I'm also replacing Buzzbee with Digamma.

Okay. So we know Blacky was a werewolf. Here's the list of guys I'm pretty sure aren't werewolves:

Me
Digamma (Buzzbee said he wasn't a werewolf)
Schmidty (Blacky voted for him)

Here's my list of guys I'm reasonably sure aren't werewolves because they voted with me or against me:

mrsimperless
GWB
Jeebs
TAG
henry296

Here is who I suspect since they voted with Blacky:

Fouts
heybrad

I didn't include kingfc22 because I think he just changed his vote.

I have no idea about Neon_Chaos, Thomkal, or Raven.

Wow a first night strike. Nice job errr..... luck ;).

Not exactly correct. I said the reason for my silence wasn't because I was a werewolf laying low. I could have been a werewolf or a villager. I would hate to give away such information when I'm not involved in the game.

Sorry for the mix-up Buzz. Peregrine gave me your name as somebody who wanted to play.

And I'd also like to echo what Buzz said above. Don't assume you know his identity based upon his earlier post. Digamma could be anything.

Awesome work, guys!

I was right - this is my first and last time playing this. I am incredulous that the rules are flatly ignored in an effort to bump me out over someone who couldn't even bother to show up until well after the deadline. At this point, I'll refrain from revealing what I know and spoiling the game for the rest of the players.

I would have enjoyed the opportunity to have a fair shot, but I suppose that some aren't mature enough to allow that.

Bad assumption to assume that the early bandwagoner - Raiders Army was a wolf. My apologies. Great job on getting Blackie the Wolf.

After we see what happens tonight, I'll rexamine the issue and give my thoughts.

This is a game with newer players. I think the whole "personal" thing goes away after the novelty of voting on people wears off.

But hey, sounds like sour grapes to me ;).

Lets remember that our first vote was a blind guess. Voting for Schmidty was pretty logical since he hadnt said anything. Blacky actually piggy backed on me after I voted.

Whew. Finally made it in through all that fog(g).

Nice. One werewolf down... how many more to go? :)

No hard feelings, JeeberD, I had to vote for someone... and jumping on the bandwagon is not my cup of tea.

Hmmm.

heybrad, Fouts, kingfc22, Blackadar all voted for Schmidty.

I would say that Fouts and heybrad are probably werewolves, but that's just going with my gut. That's my analysis for now.

Or it could be that you two are talking via PM and decided to go with Schmidty. I'm watching you bud...

No problem. If you do turn out to be a bad guy, I'll know the knife came from behind. :)

I have a number of conference call today so I will be in and out a lot. You can be sure though, that I'll be noting those who are pointing fingers and those who are piggybacking.

Did we not have a night turn?

So what rules were ignored? I don't see anywhere in the rules where it says to vote for someone who hasn't shown up yet...

I think we're waiting on the night turn.

Hopefully it will come soon, so we can focus on the game and not accusations of rule breaking and fair (or foul) play.

As a matter of fact, in previous games, usually the more vocal guys got lynched early. Even in the small game, look what happened to SirFozzie. You are probably better off not playing if you take a game like this personally since arguments get heated at times.

Night 1:

After a restless night of fearing a visit from the wolves, you all come downstairs to the common area of the Inn. You all look around, do a quick count, and realize that you're all still alive. There was no kill last night.

Voting deadline is still 8pm tonight. I'll let votes count if they are made by the time I post my writeup, but there are no guarantees.

no kill last night, good work bodyguard!

Wow, it's very early but we're kicking butt so far!

There are 2 other options:

1. They got the cursed and we are back to square 1.
2. Blackie was the King Wolf and the random dice roll selected nobody.

Todd

Well, this is an easy one for me.

VOTE Fouts

I think if he was the King his attack would have happened at the time of the lynching.

Good point about the cursed, though...

oh man, way to ruin my happiness henry. mrsimp, i tend to agree with you, and I think we can use RaidersArmy's post as a reference as to who to suspect, and so Schmidty is out of the picture. Djgamma cpould be a wildcard since Buzzbee wasn't playing and so he didn't have the opportunity to ost. I'll guess I'll sit back and wait for things to develop before casting mine.

While I'm not entirely sure he's a wolf I think he's at least working for their side.

Vote Fouts

I'm going with Fouts or heybrad for this one. It will depend on how each of them explains why they voted for Schmidty. If neither of them tries to explain why, I'll just flip a coin and vote for one of them.

I agree that our focus should be on these five.

I wonder if we need to look a bit deeper than simply whether they voted with Blacky. On the one hand, the first vote was a pretty tight race, so if they voted as a pack, they may have been able to affect the outcome and kill a villager. On the other hand, it seems a pretty dead give away if one ends up getting lynched.

Given the closeness of the vote, option one might have more viability here.

Go back and read my posts. I was pretty clear on stating that my vote would go to a player that had not spoken up. I really had nothing else to go on.

I didn't vote for Fouts because he voted for Schmidty, I voted for Fouts for the same reason I kept my original vote for Blackadar. Because Fouts defended Blackie for no apparent reason on Day 1.

I don't think voting for Schmidty yesterday is a very suspicious activity at this point. It was the best alternative to Blackadar out there at the time. In fact, I don't think the wolves would all vote for the same innocent. It would be way too easy to take them all out if they did.

After reading the thread again, I am pretty sure that Fouts is a wolf.

Vote - Fouts

Wow, if it was the bodyguard protecting someone last night, we got incredibly lucky not once (by getting a werewolf when the odds were against us) but twice since the wolves could have gone after anybody. They would have to be incredibly lucky to get the cursed out of all us villagers, but then we did it to them. I have a few puzzling/suspicious activities I'd like cleared up.

1. Suicane has not posted a single time since the game began. Is it likely he doesn't know he's in this game like Buzzbee? If so we need a replacement fast.

2. For those who think they should be safe based on voting (or not voting) for Blackadar last night, if KWhit had not accepted the last two votes on Blackie, which were after the stated deadline, there would have been a dual with a random result because there would have been a tie at that point. I am highly suspicious of both Token Asian Guy and Schmidty for that after the deadline votes, especially when I saw Schmidty online here a few minutes before the real lynching deadline, and he didn't post till an hour after with no OOV explanation of where he had been all day. TAG gets caught changing votes after the deadline when his vote meant absoultely nothing in the final tally.

3. I also have to suspect Jeeber for his vote change that brought out the tie. The wolves were better with a 50-50 chance of losing their own, than an outright loss of their own if there had not been a tie. Please someone else check how the voting went and correct me on this if I am wrong as I don't want to accuse a fellow villager.

4. There was also an edited message from Blackadar, the one that now says "Thanks Guys!" In the original version he presumes that both Jeeber and Mr S are wolves. Now why would he edit that out? Just who (if any) was he trying to protect here since we know now he was a wolf? In fact he has now edited many of his posts with a sad smilie face. Blackadar you are out of this game, you are not supposed to be commenting or helping your fellow wolves in any way. In fact no one should be editing their posts. If you have a correction to make, make it in a separate post.

5. Kingfc22's actions last night are also very suspicious to me. He voted for Blackadar first stating that he was jumping on the bandwagon for lack of a better reason. Later in the afternoon he changed his voted to Schmidty, with no explanation given (at least when he made his vote). Then 8 minutes after the official deadline he posted this:

"Nah, Blacky is good. I say vote Schimidty."

To me, that screams either Wolf or Sorceror. Why would you say this King?

6. Welcome digamma :)

While I can see why people think Fouts is suspicious, I think there are two or three more who are even more suspicious.

VOTE KINGFC22

OOV should be OOC in the above Point #2

Good points mrsimperless and Thomkal. I look at this as a game of minesweeper. You know how you start up the game and the first click is either lucky or unlucky? We got lucky on the first click. With that, it's revealed a few clues. I'm at work right now, but I'll read through the whole thread again tonight before I vote. I believe I did vote too early last night, and I don't want to change my vote once submitted.

Wow. Great start.

No kill in night 1...I guess that means the bodyguard or the cursed were hit? Are there any other possibilities here? I'm going to go back and check the rules on this, and follow up.

Regarding Suicane, he hasn't visited the board since Monday. I'm hoping that he's OK and that he didn't get hit by a drunk driver or anything...

Second, when I changed my vote to Blacky it was currently four for Schmidty and three for Blacky. So that made it 4-3 for Blacky. Like I said, George and simperless made some valid points which made me rethink who I was voting for.

If you are being serious, that is pretty weak. I'd assumed you were saying that stuff as a self-preservation strategy.

When you joined up, you should have realized that people were going to try to do whatever they could to save their own asses, that someone had to die first, and, in order to have a good/long game, almost everyone has to go.

I haven't heard from him, so I'm looking to replace him. I have a couple of PMs out, but if any of you lurkers want to grab his spot, send me a PM. First come, first serve.

OK, looks like those two are probably the only options.


Now, before I voted, Blackie had 2 votes, Buzzbee had 2 votes Schmidty had 4, Jeeber and RaidersArmy had 1 vote (see post #66). At that point, the only 3 who hadn't voted were me, GWB and Blackadar. Schmidty, Buzzbee and Suicane still hadn't shown up yet, and I figured they might not show at all.

If I voted Schmidty, he was most likely the one to get lynched. He would have 5, Blackie most likely would have jumped on Schmidty (6 votes now) to save his own butt. It wouldn't have mattered where GWB voted, because Schmidty would have gone home unless someone change their vote.


I decided to vote Buzzbee. Giving Blackie 2, Buzz 3 and Schmidty 4. I wanted to make things close to even, hoping GWB and/or Blackie would come in and cast their votes tieing things up for someone. At that point, I was hoping someone would be compelled to change their vote.....giving us some kind of inclination of who they wanted to save.

I think this strategy was very close to working. GWB came in and cast the next vote for Blackie, making it Blackie 3, Buzz 3, Schmidty 4. Except Schmidty pops in unexpectedly and votes Blackadar, screwing everything up.


With the voting being that close, Blackie voting Schmidty, and GWB voting Blackie, I think that puts both Schmidty and GWB safe for now.

Let me clarify something in my last post

"Except Schmidty pops in unexpectedly and votes Blackadar, screwing everything up."

Don't take that the wrong way. I meant Schmidty dropping in unexpectedly breaks all tie possibilities, not allowing us to force someone to change a vote.

Well I'll admit I look suspicious, but I was voting with what information that was out there. I assure you, I am not a werewolf. I'll look through the posts and try and figure out who was leading us astray.

We will be making a mistake if I am lynched. Somebody knows something here, lets look at the clues.

Fouts, if you don't turn into a wolf tonight when we hang you by your hairy neck I'll be completely stunned. Althought I guess it is possible that you're an innocent townsperson and you defended a wolf by accident yesterday.

*snicker*

Ok, I lied. Its not possible. Die wolfie!!

Well, it was by accident, because I thought the reason for lynching Blackadar was pretty flimsy. Let me tell you, if I were the wolf I wouldn't openly protect someone I know that is a wolf. There are people who are more suspicious than I.

Suicane is being replaced by ntndeacon.

From Raiders Army today


and this that I posted yesterday



Do you see the connection? Raiders and King appear to be in it together. Very suspicious.

I apologize guys, Comcast crapped out on Monday night and they just got finished rewiring my entire house. I'm sorry if my absence screwed anything up.

Welcome NTNdeacon :)

Perfect timing! I just replaced you with ntndeacon!

Sorry that you missed this one, but there will be others.

That's something a werewolf would say. Jeez.


Whatever dude. I think that's a tenuous connection at best. I said I would vote for you or heybrad depending on what you post. Congratulations, you just got my vote.

Vote Fouts.

Not a problem, i've got so much crap i need to catch up on anyway, but I will be watching.

So me and kingfc22 voting for Blacky (a werewolf) quickly makes us wolves working together to off one of our own???

Very compelling evidence coupled with the "Thanks Guys" from Blackadar.

I vote Kingfc22

Yes, very cunning. You should have let Blakadar in on it, because he became very upset. He now blames you two for getting him hung.

Current list of players for reference:

Alive and Kicking:
henry296
Raven
Neon_Chaos
digamma
Fouts
mrsimperless
heybrad
Thomkal
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
kingfc22
Token Asian Guy
Raiders Army

Hanging from the rafters:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1

You should also add how cunning we were in how kingfc22 changed his vote and I left my vote for Blacky.

Dola, and he should blame me for getting him hung since I voted for him. :rolleyes:

Yes, that was why he was so distraught. No matter, once I am strung up the evidence I posted will point straight to you two. I'll save some rope for you guys :)

Well, it certainly is plausible that we are in cahoots. While it's a possibility, I don't think that it's a probability with what you have shown. I am through with this conversation, since I'm talking to a dead wolf walking. :)

hi everyone. Good job on the first night. Hopefully the bodyguard got lucky during the night . It would be nice if the cursed didn't get picked by the wolves.

I have a final exam starting at 6, so unfortunately I won't be able to base my vote on anything other than what's already transpired.

The thing I am most skeptical about at this point is Kingfc voting Blackadar early, then changing his vote to Schmidty when Blackadar starting getting some heat. Maybe that's just a coincidence, or maybe his ploy to save a fellow wolf went sour?


I vote Kingfc

I have a question. wasn't Blackader the last to vote the way he did? I am not saying that those voting with him are innocent, but no one jumped onto Schmidty afterwards

Very good point. I probably voted too soon, although I feel good about my vote. Fouts subsequent posts haven't really helped his case; however, I am starting to have second-thoughts about Kingfc. If I were to change my mind, is it lame to change my vote before the deadline?

Here is a quick vote update:

Fouts- 4 (mr. s, Jeeber, Schmidty, Raiders Army)
Kingfc22 - 2 (Fouts, Raven)

I am not sure about either one, but they are most suspicious. I am going to go with the flip-flopper.

VOTE Kingfc22

I wonder about TokenAsianGuy. changing his vote when it did not change the outcome. Possibly just to be on the winning side.

Henry,

I also voted for King earlier. And as of yet he hasn't explained himself.

Here's this guy's take on the situation. MrSimp, Thomkal, RaidersArmy have got me really thinking. Fouts was my immediate suspect today, and I still lean towards him. Raiders and him going back and forth doesnt really prove that either is a wolf, but i believe their voting tendncies can. In looking at the votes, we can see that Raiders voted for Blackie (a wolf) pretty much absolving him, and Fouts voted for Schmidty. Fouts has made points accusing kingfc22 for changing his vote to schmidty, who i hope i can safely say is a villager, and protecting blackie in the process. That makes king a second tier suspect who i believe we should keep an eye on. i wish i could see what blackie had typed originally, because those smilies (or frownies) dont allow us to see the context in which those, including myself, saw that made us want to vote for blackie, and even more importantly, what made others not vote for him. I sort of find djgamma to be suspicious, even though Buzzbee ended up not wanting to play, we haven't heard too much from dj so he might just be waiting in the wings hoping to ride it out. if i'm wrong in bringing you up dj, don't get angry, I am just cautious of you until we hear from you. phew, with all that being said, I have come to a decision in voting, and I find that Fouts' argument is compelling but possibly just a strategy devised by the wolves to pass the blame, and I feel that MrSimp's analysis is still dead on.

VOTE FOUTS

VOTE Kingfc22
I'm going with this vote based on the unexplained Blackadar vote switch. Fouts is running a close 2nd right now.

i can see how changing my vote makes me look suspicious, but honestly it was just a matter of my vote being not worth anything, so i figured i would change it. had i known the voting was up, i wouldve not have changed, but i assumed the voting could continue until Kwhit posted the results. my original thinking was to vote a silent person first, but buzzbee's post combined with mrsimp's analysis made me sway heavily toward blackadar.

I'm willing to give myself up in order to get a real werewolf lynched. Lynch me tonight, and then King the next night. If my suspicions are correct, then its a good tradeoff for us villagers.

Gonna take one for the team. Remember me well.

I'm definitely not changing my vote from you now. Especially now that heybrad voted for Kingfc.

I'm content with my vote now.

I am not convinced that one is more guilty than the other. I am willing to have them duke it out though. Call me gullible, but I will believe Fouts' self sacrificial act for now.
I vote king

I was thinking that voting for King would make it look like I'm aligned with Fouts. Thats not the case. He's next on the radar.

He does sound quite convincing, but I'm not changing my vote at this point. He's right - if he turns out to be a villager then we just lynch king tomorrow.

Although I'm going to have to go back through and read the king analysis. I'm not nearly as sold on him as everyone else seems to be.

So is there a tie now?

and a tie means a duel. Gotta love duels!

It's dIgamma, but no worries about the suspicion. I can understand where you are coming from, but rest assured, it is unfounded. Also, I did post a couple of times earlier, but to recap...

For me the vote goes one of two ways. The first is either Fouts or kingfc22. They both voted for Schmidty along with Blacky.

The other way is the alternative wolf strategy of spreading votes around to a couple of different players--not lumping themselves together so as to be suspicious. If that was the rationale, then people like Thomkal, Raven, henry and neon_chaos should probably be suspects.

I have a slight lean towards the first strategy, my thought being that the vote was close and the wolves needed to stick together to try to prevent an early lynching.

Going with that gut feeling, I have to look at today's comments. We haven't heard much from kingfc22, but Fouts hasn't been all that convincing to me.

VOTE FOUTS

Okay....I don't think you should totally absolve me, since it may be a strategy (and then is this a strategy within a strategy???). FWIW, after some thought, I'm not sure Fouts is a wolf, but I am sure that his thinking a slightly flawed. I'll stick with my vote against him...primarily because he accused me, an innocent rope-investing villager, and because I said I would vote against him or heybrad...who's been curiously silent.

I'm SURE he is. Mmmm Hmmm.

Not good enough. You are both acting fishy. One is wolf, and the other is Sorcerer or something. I am 100% positive about that, which probably makes me a wolf target tonight. Oh well. Your game is up.

I said last night that I thought Fouts and Blackadar were in this together. Nothing I've seen today has changed my mind. I voted for Blacky because he had more votes, so tonight

I Vote For Fouts

With about 15 minutes to go, I have the vote like this:

Fouts 7 (mrsimperless, JeeberD, Schmidty, Raiders Army, Token Asian Guy, digamma, George W Bush)
Kingfc22 6 (Thomkal, Fouts, Raven, henry296, heybrad, ntndeacon)

Fouts and heybrad voting together again...no vote from Kingfc22? That seems strange since his neck is on the line.

Dola, just looked and Kingfc22 hasn't said anything today yet. That seems somewhat suspicious, but not as suspicious as Fouts.

The fact that you lobby with so little time left makes me wonder about you........

From King's profile
I know I'm not playin the game, but don't lynch a guy cause he's busy :).

That's what I'm talking about. I don't think anyone should trust anyone. Like in Resevoir Dogs, I'm the only one that I can trust, and I'm pretty sure you're on the level since they tried to take you out last night. Other than that, I don't trust too many.

Of course, you could be pulling a Mr. Orange right now too...

But based on what we have to go on, I'm still going with Fouts.

Now digamma was that a nice thing to do, naming me a suspect after I welcomed you to the game? :) Your reasoning about the wolves spreading their votes around is sound, but I'm not a wolf. I had strong reasons that I mentioned in going for King, stronger than the reasons for Fouts in my opinion, nothing more. Even us plain villagers can disagree on who we think is a wolf. Was their a wolf jumping on after I made the initial vote for him? Probably, but that can wait until tomorrow.

Why do people say this? Isn't this something a wolf would say as well?

Day 2:

The voting was close, but the final result:

Fouts 7 (mrsimperless, JeeberD, Schmidty, Raiders Army, Token Asian Guy, digamma, George W Bush)
Kingfc22 6 (Thomkal, Fouts, Raven, henry296, heybrad, ntndeacon)


You grab Fouts, kicking and screaming, and drag him to the corner of the lobby where you have the rope at the ready. "No! I'm just a simple villager! Don't do this!" he screams. But you do.

You string him up. He struggles. He thrashes. He wails. But finally he stops and is limp. You wait for the inevitable, but he doesn't turn into a werewolf. You have lynched an innocent villager.

The wolves win this round.

PM your evening actions to me sometime tonight. I'll post the morning turn around 7:30 or 8:00 tomorrow morning.

Oops

Alive and Kicking:
henry296
Raven
Neon_Chaos
digamma
mrsimperless
heybrad
Thomkal
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
kingfc22
Token Asian Guy
Raiders Army

Hanging from the rafters:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2

Damn. I say damn because he was a villager, but not because his stuff made any sense. Also, this throws everything into the mixer.

Son of a Gun! I guess it was too much to hope we would be right 2 days in a row. Do good tonight, Bodyguard.

No good. At this point, I think it might be wise to go back and look at Blackadar's posts and see if we can get any clues that way. I'm really confused as to why Fouts was somewhat trying to deflect attention away from Blackadar during the first vote now.

Clearly Kwhit is a werewolf!

Shhhhh! Don't tell.

Except Blackie edited most of his posts... which doesn't help much.

I thought we weren't supposed to edit our posts.