Just saw the movie. Good flick, goes great with the series of movies. I would say it is #3 of all 6 for me.

Gripes:

-R2D2 did seem a little more badass in this movie, which didn't fit to me. Although the getting out of the ship thing I always assumed was due to Anakin or some little ejecter in the ship, not R2 himself as someone complained about.

-The Anikan/Padme seens were worse for me in this movie then the last one. I did not mind them too much in 2. This one though it seems like every cheesy, predictable line ever used in a movie was used here. (The seen between them on lava-land was the worse.)

- I have to agree, the Darth Vader "Noooooo!" was just no good at all, ruined the whole scene for me. I could have lived with him slicing up a couple droids and the Emperor having to restrain him instead.

- Ran out of popcorn too soon.

Likes:

- Thought Anakin going to the darkside was done well. I think you were supposed to see that he had divided loyalties to both the Council and to Palpatine, and kept trying to go both ways. The fact that Anakin still had good in him, and was not totally evil was something I thought they tried to make clear to people. It is important because in the end he does still have that good left in him, as he finally fulfills his destiny and balances out the force by killing the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

- Liked the wrap up of the story lines, or rather the filling in of blanks. Why Yoda went into exile was a big one for me.

- The final two lightsaber battles were very much worth it. Yoda/Palpatine and Anakin/Obi-Wan were my favorite battles in all the movies perhaps.

- Outside the Senate, when they showed people walking in was one of those people with the two long 'tentacle' like things that are part of their head. Anyways, she had some really nice hoo-haws on her.

I think my main gripe was that his conversion was so... quick. :)

This is how it went down basically.

"Oh no, I killed Mace Windu. What have I done! I am confused... dark or light side?"

"Join me."

"Ok."

"Then rise, Lord Vader."

:)

But yeah, it still was a notch above Ep. 1 and Ep. 2. Heh.

Anakin vs. Obi-Wan has to be best lightsaber battle in the entire series. It was incredible. The juxtaposition with the Palpatine v. Yoda battle was perfect.

The Maul/Qui Gon/Obi Wan fight still owns... and based on that scene alone, I think Ep. I was the best of the new trilogy. I still can't believe they killed off Darth Maul. He was a bad-ass mf. They should have killed Palpatine and kept Maul. Lucas could just edit the original trilogy to account for it. He's done worse...

Ep. III was a bit of a disappointment. It was flashy and pretty, but no more so than Ep. II, and it was hard not to groan at most of the dialogue and plot devices throughout. Many of the criticisms have been covered here. Every line between Anakin and Padme was painful. The "NOOO", the lost her will to live, etc. So many wooden performances. I guess I should be used to all that by now.. They were there in the last two films, and I overlooked them and enjoyed them anyhow. I guess it has just gotten old, and it's disappointing that Lucas never learns from mistakes and improves his game.

The end of the Anakin/Obi Wan duel was satisfying, but the rest was just irritating. In one jedi duel after another we see people throwing one another around with the force. Here you've got two jedi standing on a pipe over a lake of lava and neither thinks to toss the other over? Even the way it ended.. These guys force jump all over the place like crazy. It's no big deal. Then Obi Wan is on a big fricken rock, and all the sudden it's like, "I have the high ground now, muwhahahahaha. Don't even try it, fool." WTF.

The killing of the jedi kids: best scene in the movie. Finally a scene that has real emotional impact. It needed more of that.

Well what exactly was Anakin supposed to do once Obi-Wan gained that position? It was either go away or get beaten down. It's not like he could go left or right at that point.

And I think they didn't force push each other, 1) because the fighting was so furious they had no time, and 2) the other would have countered and BOTH would go in [not good].

As for wooden performances... Star Wars since the beginning (with Ep 4) has had wooden performances. Only a few rise above it (like Harrison Ford or Ewan McGregor). It can't be helped with these movies.

I thought that when I first saw pictures of it and again when I saw the movie - it is like it is too narrow, or small or something.

I don't know this for sure but I think the actor inside the suit in the originals was taller and had a bigger head.

It would have been better if Vader emerged from the egg shaped chamber (ala Empire strikes back) rather than on a reclining gurney. The ''Nooo'' scene would have been better if it just showed his hand crushing a droid or just his shadow.

In Ep III, Vader is one skinny dude. He must have put on weight as he grew into middle age for Ep IV and they had to redo the suit

Big difference between the heat of battle and calm planning. With a fight raging, high ground isn't as big a deal. When you are looking to start a fight, it is a bigger deal. Kenobi on high ground with firm footing is a big advantage. He has already figured out the only way for Anakin to continue the fight, and his counter is ready.

This scene bothered me at the time, but thinking back, it really does make sense.

Both fights were pretty good, but neither make my top two. The fight with Darth Maul was much better both from a skill standpoint, and from a coolness factor.

The Luke/Vader battle in Jedi is probably the most powerful fight. Right after Vader threatens to try to turn Leia and Luke goes to the edge of the dark side (with the swelling music in the background). This fight wasn't as good technically as the others, but it is still the most powerful.

Funny, that was one of my wife's biggest gripes (I honestly hadn't thought of it at the time). I can't argue with the points many people are making and there were some bad lines, but overall I enjoyed the movie a lot and thought it was a vast improvement on 1+2. In fact, the main disappointment I felt when I walked out of the theatre was that Lucas couldn't have done a better job on Episode 1+2 if he did this for 3.

The Helmet for Darth Vader was designed and fabricated by a computer for this version, resulting in a perfect balance on both sides. Whereas the previous helmet was hand done and asymmetrical.

the best actor in Episode III was Ewan McGregor. when he's standing on the higher ground rock, and gives his last speech to Anakin (standing over the lava), you just really could see that Obi Wan was just so disappointed and angered at Anakin. he was so angry at that point, that it really made me realize that his original intent on going to the lava planet wasn't to kill Anakin, but to compel to him, and maybe redeem him. even when they first started fighting, in retrospect perhaps Obi Wan was pulling his punches. letting it be a stalemate. but it seemed as once he got onto the rock and said it was over, at that moment you could just see how furious Obi Wan was, shouting "you were supposed to bring balance to the Force!" and "you were my brother!". it was then that you could really see that Obi Wan acknowledged that Anakin couldn't be saved, and that he needed to die.

great acting.

I said the same thing watching the movie, pretty funny.

Man, some of you guys are really f'in nitpicky. If I was as anal I would probably have had a hard time enjoying the movie too.

Very, very not safe for work but the latest sexy losers strip has a pretty funny 'star wars' parody. No, I won't post a link.

You weren't the only one to notice that. I liked that short part very much. :)

I thought the same thing when I watched it... I really liked that part.

ditto for me.

Honestly, from the moment that Anakin saw Obi Wan, It was on. I was on the edge of my seat. At least in this movie there was a definate climax. I hate movies that feel anti-climactic that should be.

OK - I have not seen episodes one and two, and have no interest in seeing them or episode three..but I have a question. I know from reading magazines that Natalie Portman's character in the first movie, maybe even the second, was Queen Amidala (or something like that), but I read in a magazine today that her character is now Padme...can someone explain this to me???

On her planet the Queen basically serves a term in office. So when she was done with that she went with her normal name I guess, and went on to be a Senator.

Her full name is Padme Naberrie Amidala

Pointless trivia

I'm pretty sure that Padme is Tibetan for 'flower'.

Saw the movie today, enjoyed it quite a bit, my wife did as well. Easily the best of the new trilogy IMO.

Saw it today and I have to agree with Richard Roeper (ugh), this is the best Star Wars film since Empire Strikes Back.

Sab , I hate to tell you this, but your "Geek Rating" just went off the charts. :eek:

Okay, add me to the list of those on the first weekend.
Random thoughts ... my wife liked it better than I did, and we both seem to have liked it more than our son did, he said II was better than III (but he hasn't seen V or VI yet). ... I wish I hadn't read the script online before hand, kinda limited my ability to get totally into it, but when you've got a 7 year old, you gotta do some due diligence ... My wife is apparently the only person other than his mother who enjoys Haydn Christiansen. Her quote? "He pulled it off perfectly, the whole sliding to evil thing" Me: "Huh?" Her: "Didn't you think so? His face and his eyes said it all, he didn't have to say anything else." Me: "You are alone in the world sometimes, you know that?" ...
I thought the crosscuts between the scenes were outstanding ... Yoda is a bad mo'fo, his entrance into Palpy's chamber got the biggest laugh in the theatre tonight, with the little flick that bounced the two guards off the wall ... Mace got pwnd ... McGregor as Obi-Wan now seems outfuckingstanding to me, transition to Sir Alec is near perfect ... Yes, the love scene dialogues are hideous, the tortured cry of Vader at the end is nearly as bad ... Of all the plot holes I've seen/heard bitched about on the 'net, the one that bothers me most is the notion that Yoda knows when a mosquito farts in the swamp because of the ripple in the Force but not a single Jedi notices anything beyond an oddness about Palpatine. He's a f'n Sith Lord, I'm thinking that's gotta set off some car alarms or something ... Did I miss something somewhere or did it feel like something was edited out regarding the older kid killed at the temple just as Bail Organa arrives? That's the one place, about the time you catch a glimpse of his face, in the whole movie where I felt like something had been cut down. It just felt random & I thought maybe we were meant to see him escaping from Anakin or something earlier.

On the whole, damned good stuff, probably my second most enjoyed in the series behind IV.

Yea, that was really random and we'll probably have to wait for an extended version 10 years from now to figure out what led up to that.

Saw it yesterday. Some observations:

• Ewan McGregor was just simply awesome as Obi-Wan. His performance was easily the best part of any of the six movies.
• Hayden Christiansen was a little better than Ep. II, but still not quite Vader, if you asked me. And, yeah, the transition from light-dark could have been handled a little better - but I can't really think of a better solution for this.
• There was one guy, probably about 30, in my theater who was dressed in Jedi robes. This wasn't a midnight show or anything - this was a 4:00 weekday matinee, and he's the only dork in costume. I thought to myself, "No matter what happens for the rest of my life, I'll always know that at some point, at some time, there was someone more lame than I could ever be."
• End of the movie could have been a little better. But I don't get the "frankenstein" gripes... the poor bastard just got both legs hacked off, and was walking on robotic limbs for the first time... what'd you fuckers expect, cartwheels? But, yeah, the "Nooooo!" bit was a little gay.
• The chick outside the opera was the hottest piece of Star Wars cheese since Leia in ROTJ. Maybe hotter. I think I'm going to sense a great disturbance in the force when this comes out on DVD.
• Palpatine was a bit overdone. Ian McDiarmid could have toned it down a bit.
• Yoda was pretty awesome. I enjoyed his fight scenes against the clones.
• The Jedi who tried to arrest Palpatine got slapped like bitches. That scene should have been extended a bit. Or maybe they could have been taken out with some force-lighting, and only Windu knew the counter-move. I dunno... but they basically stood there to get stabbed. Disappointing.
• I expected Dooku to put up a better fight... and to say SOMETHING to the emperor before getting decapitated... instead, he just stood there and took it? Why not speak up? At that point, he's toast... it was unbelievable that he wouldn't rat out the emperor and at least give Anakin something to think about.

For the most part, I liked the movie. Better than the last two, although I didn't hate those as much as some fanboys. I've just enjoyed having new Star Wars flicks over the last six years, and I hope Lucas changes his mind about more sequels.

Man... I sooo wish we still had QOTM.

What I was thinking is, maybe he was so powerful that he was able to mask his abilities from other Jedi, or at least deflect them enough that people could sense a 'dark disturbance' but couldn't tell where it was coming from.

Actually Mace suspects something about the chancellor but isn't sure.

Hard to see, the dark is.

They obvious sense the dark side around them, but there must be something about the dark side that inables the ability to pinpoint it.


I....I looked it up. That's right...what? :)

Just some more thoughts

• Kit Fisto did go out like a bitch. Take that you squiddy bastard!
• the twilek Jedi died. :( I had heard a rumor that she survived the massacre.
• the twilek outside the "opera" was indeed hot. Almost made me miss the George Lucas cameo.
• the best shot in the entire Prequel Trilogy has to be the last shot of ROTS, with Owen and Beru holding Luke with Tantoine's suns as the background.
• Yoda kicks ass
• Lucas can't write romance. The romance in KOTOR was better written.
• Star Wars: The Clone Wars really does a good job leading up to ROTS.
• The Yoda/Sidious and Anakin/Obi-wan fights were great

This was true at the viewing I saw as well. I thought it was a funny scene... Yoda just dismissed them with a sort of "yawn" attitude.

Well, we're talking about a small range of competition here.

1. This is clearly the best of the three prequels (I have yet to see anyone say otherwise).

2. A New Hope ("Star Wars") and Empire Strikes Back are generally accepted as 1-2 (and personally, I can't see how anyone can dispute that).

So it just boils down to "is this movie better than Return of the Jedi? Dunno. I bash ROTJ more than most, but my immediate reaction was that it still bests this movie. I really need a second viewing of Sith to make up my mind about it. I was severely disappointed when I walked out of the theater, but the more I've thought about it the more I've found parts I really liked (but the ones i've HATED still remain).

that was George Lucas' son.

George himself is in the movie, in a blink you might miss it part. right when Anakin goes into the water ballet you see an alien with blue skin standing by the entrance, think that was him. i read Lucas appears at the water ballet scene as an alien with blue skin, and that was the only one in the theater scene in any type of shot.

and i read, in Time, that his son plays a young Jedi who dies. might've been just a way to get his son in the movie for fuck's sake. don't think a backstory is needed.

i kinda agree with this, him being a Sith Lord would probably mean he knew how to mask his abilities and how not to affect on the Force.

RoTS is better than RoTJ. so my Star Wars ranking is ANH, ESB and now RoTJ.

GL in ROTS

what is KOTOR?

Knights of the Old Republic, a Star Wars video game.

I don't know. I did get the sense, though, that having Wookies in RotS was Lucas' way of apologizing for the Ewoks in RotJ.

Lucas is a lot of things, an apologist he is not.

I don't get it then. Is that video game part of the story thats in the movies? Or why are people comparing the movies to that video game?

Because it's one of the best Star Wars games to ever be made, and when it game out many considered it to be the best use of the Star Wars brand since the original trilogy.

Further thoughts:

Obi-wan riding the lizard thing was one of the dumbest, most useless moments in the all 6 Star Wars movies.

The entire "General Grievous" storyline seemed like wasted screentime to me.

Also... anyone been following the box office numbers on this? $16.5 million at the midnight showings alone and over $50 million in the first day. Almost no doubt in my mind we're seeing a record-opening here.

My thoughts:

Do we know the backstory on General Grievous? He appeared to be half-organic/half-machine...but what else?

Ewan McGregor was the standout actor.

Palpatine becomeing "disfigured" was a pretty damn cool movie moment for me.

Obi-Wan got really old between Episodes 3-4, while Luke/Leia only aged like 18-20 years.

Scenery, particularly on the volcanic planet, was very impressive.

Evidentally Grievous was featured in the Clone Wars cartoon series on Cartoon Network, but I didn't see it.

A note on General Grevious's background. This is explored pretty well in the book Labrynth of Evil, the Lucas approved and guided lead-in for RotS. Grevious was a warrior leader of a people who got royally screwed over by the Republic. The Sepretists wanted to recruit him to lead their armys but he didn't want to leave his people. Dooku arranges for a shuttle accident that leaves Grevious little more than a pile of spare parts. Those parts are collected and put into the mechanical body care of the Genosisians, provided he works for the Sepretists. The reason for his weezing is the almost-buttkicking he gets in the final installment of the Clone Wars cartoon care of Mace. I HIGHLY recommend the Clone Wars cartoon, which are actually going to be picked up and expanded on in a 30 minute per episode series starting soon.

By the way, how impressive is it that Christopher Lee (aka Count Dooku) is almost 83 years old? I would have liked to have seen his character explored a bit more, as it seemed as if he may have had some good (although misguided) intentions in Clones.

Agreed. He went from a sort of grey character to super evil very quickly in late EP2, and the beginning of this one. That's Lucas' writing for you.


Ok, now a continuity/logic question:

They seperate the twins, and send them off to be raised in secret. Leia is raised Leia Oragana. Why in the world would Luke ever know his real last name? Why wouldn't they have raised him as Luke Lars? I mean, you're practically painting a target on the kids' back.

Seconded.
I'm thinking about firing that bastard up again. Plus there were alot of excellent add-ons for that game.

Also, I love how Bail Organa orders only C3POs memory to be wiped at the end of the movie. That's there strictly for continuity, not to make any sort of logical sense.

Yeah, wipe the protocol droid's memory, but don't touch that droid that's been through a ton of battles and witnessed alllll kinds of extremely important stuff.

KOTOR is the reason I got interested in the movies.

I enjoyed the movie, but Padme should have died much much earlier, cause she killed the dialouge. And the Vader gutteral Nooooooooooooooo was absolutely silly. I think there were probably much better ways that Lucas could tell this story, but in the end its his baby.

Ever since Clones came out I have had a friend bitch about how C3PO should have remembered Lukes house on Tantooine in A New Hope. Of course R2 should remember it as well.

Of course he also would tell me that the reason R2 is eccentric in all the movies is because it never had a memory wipe, but he's a bigger Star Wars geek then I am...

So where does Captian Kirk fit into all of this?

i like how Lucas handled the outside supplements in regards to fleshing out some of the backstories. where, if you saw the Clone Wars cartoons (i only watched 1 or 2 of them) you got some in-depth info on Grievous, but nothing grandious that you *needed* to see the cartoons for, or for some of the extended universe novels.

The Matrix went about it all wrong. apparently there was some important things shown in the Enter The Matrix game that would have helped explain a lot of things in the 3rd Matrix movie. anytime you make outside research a prerequisite for seeing your movies you're setting yourself up for disaster.

Knights of the Old Republic is set about 4000 years before the events of Episode One.

It actually is one of the best, if not the best SW game out there. The storyling was great and the Sith/Jedi conflict was in full bloom. :)

something else I've been wondering about the movies, someone that knows more could answer for me. How is Leia a princess? I know Padme was the queen, but then she became a senator and no longer a queen. Leia was adopted by Bail Organa, but he was a senator too I thought?

The political titles in these movies are always strange. "Queen" Padme was elected, and had term limits? How exactly was Dukoo a "Duke?" Don't try to figure it out. It is not worth it.

lol

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I haven't seen episode 3 yet, and probably won't for a while, but if the Jedi couldn't figure out that the enemy was right under their nose for 15 years, then they deserved to die.

Underestimate the power of the dark side, you do.

Well, Palpatine did a pretty damn good job of not using any of his force powers EVER until Ep. 3.

If you watch the Clone Wars cartoon, he was completely in human-mode the entire time Greivous kidnapped him.

The dark side isn't clear, and is full of shadows. Which is why the jedi can sense that the darkness near them, but they do not know from which dirrection it emanates from.

Michael Myers doing an updated 'Spaceballs' is sorely needed.

Saw it over the weekend. It was the best of the new three, but it still was not a good movie. The dialogue was still pathetic. The acting was wooden and sad for the most part, despite some of the talent (Samuel L. Jackson, Ewan McGregor, etc.). This film, like the others, lacked any real human element. The space battle at the begining was stupid, as was the rest of that. General Greivous sucked. Most of the action scenes were pretty dull. The only humor, for the most part, was stupid slapstick crap.

There were some decent scenes:
1. Seeing Vader's light saber ignite in the room full of kids.
2. The young jedi flying out to save Jimmy Smits.
3. Vader massacaring the separatists.
4. Vader/Obi Wan fight at the end.
5. The Emperor/Yoda fight. It was ok.

Remember, kids, whatever you do never, ever attack a jedi who has the higher ground. Ever.

I'm glad they're over. The last three were simply bad films.

Just got back from seeing it.

Not overly impressed, but the other folks who went with me really liked it.

Agree with most everything Honulu_ said. Horrible dialogue as always, and I don't know how Lucas pulls off having at least semi-talented actors come across so badly, but they're pathetic. I cringed when Samuel L had a line.

Too much CG stuff in my opinion. There's a line there, and this was way over it. Large portions of it were pretty pointless also.

I actually laughed out loud when the Vader Nooo! line came. Classic. Any time Padme and Anakin were together it was painful to watch.

What was up with Grievous hacking up a lung all the time? Was that ever explained?

Anyhow, better than the last two, but not good. It's not something I'll be anxious to see again.

Darth: I will have the Penne!
Chef: Ok, but you'll need a tray!
Darth: A tray, I need no tray, do you know who I am?
Chef: You know who I am?
Darth: This is not a game of who the F' are you! I am Vadar, I can kill you with a thought!
Chef: You'll still need a tray
Darth: I do not need a tray to kill you, even though I could kill you with a tray. I would hack at your neck with the thin bit, until your blood flows
Chef: No, the food is hot, you need a tray!
Darth: OH! The food is hot! I thought you wanted a fight to the death!
Chef: Fight to the death? I am a chef.I work here
Darth: Everyone challenges me. I run the Death Star
Chef: This is a star?
Darth: This is the Death Star, I run it. I am your boss!
Chef: You're Mr.Stevens?
Darth: Who is Mr.Stevens?
Chef: Head of Catering
Darth: I am not the head of catering! I can kill catering with a thought! Grr, F' it, I'll get a tray.

Yeah, what's the deal with this?

It was explained earlier in the thread. Apparently you need to have watched the cartoon that exists between ep. 2 and ep 3 to understand it. I hadnt seen it so I wondered too.

You can still watch Season 2 of Star Wars: Clone Wars at CartoonNetwork.com

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/promos...ars/index.html

*raises hand*

ESB is my #1 (of course) and I have RotS rated just ahead of ANH.

I rank them as follows

Ep 5, Ep 4, Ep 3, Ep 6, Ep 2, Ep 1

I enjoyed ALL of them though. I didnt hate any of them, I wish their were changes in all of them, but hell im not a director.

Yeah, I enjoyed all of them as well. The final battles push RotS to 2nd for me.

Not to mention involved in War crimes/ atrocities. :D

Dola: No love for Palpatine's revelation during the opera?

I just say this movie two days ago and I must say I was disappointed the first 3. Out of this crop, it's sad to say that the first one was the best. I don't mind if I have to suspend my reality while watching these films, but the last one was ridiculous. The movies seemed to be made to try to take advantage of merchandising, rather than to tell a good story.

The whole sequence with the dramatic crash landing of a ship with no wings and having lost the back end just bothered me somewhat. I was bothered that C3PO knew of Leia and Luke because it messed with the continuity Episode 4 (why wouldn't he just blurt out that they are related). It bothered me that Chewbacca just happened to know Yoda and we find out in the future that he works with a criminal. It bothered me that Padme went from being a powerful political leader to a whimpering woman and showed no characteristics of the personality that she showed in the first two movies. I didn't like the fact that Palpatine suddenly changed facial features after zapping Mace Windu. Are you telling me he never used that power before? And I still couldn't get over the acting of the guy who would eventually be Darth Vadar. I thought he was the worst choice for the character due to his acting ability alone.

They show at the end of the movie how it is ordered for C3PO's memory banks to be erased, so that is why he does not remember them or know about them.

Just a few little corrections...

1. C 3P0's memory was wiped at the end of the movie, as ordered by Bail Organa so he could not have remembered anything from the first trilogy.

2. Chewbacca was working with a criminal because he owed a life debt to Han Solo who saved his life.

3. Palpatine's face changed because his lightning was being reflected right back at him, slowly killing him.

One of the parts I want to see again, actually. I thought Palpatine was just "playin' 'possum" when he was doing all that, but since no one else has ever said they thought that, i figure I must be wrong.

Okay the first one I will give you, I must have missed that. Now were both droids ordered to be erased or just one. On the second one, I guess I am more bothered with the fact that they conveniently met one another in the past, so it is apparent that Chewbacca knew Jedis, but doesn't mention this to Han Solo in the future as he is questioning what this Force is all about, because apparently he witnessed quite a bit. Now as far as Palpatine, I don't buy the lightning arguement due to the fact that no one else's features changed when they are zapped by it. If it were so draining to use that freaking power and it doesn't even kill anyone, then why not stick with the freakin light saber.

And one more observation that bothered me was that the other Jedi's can simply be killed by laser blasts and Anakin can't even get killed by molten lava. I know they had to explain how he looked in the future, but that was ridiculous. Maybe I more disappointed with the fact that I saw much less of a story as each movie progressed. I can't even say any of these were better than Return of the Jedi and that's really sad.

It was what I was thinking. Palpatine wanted Anakin to turn, so when Anakin enters the room, Palp is all "Please don't hurt me." He wanted to make it look like Mace was going to kill a helpless old man.

I also thought that the way Palp looks in the OT, is his real face. That in the prequels he is using force powers to hide his real looks (Sith are more powerful than Jedi, so maybe they have such power. Also explains the Jedi not sensing him). I say this because in the expanded universe they talk about the dark side corrupting ones looks (like the yellow eyes Anakin gets). Since some of the people here have played KOTOR, then they know the bad guy in the game Darth Malak, is missing a body part. It has been mentioned that Malak loses that part because the dark side deteriorated it and it "fell" off.

dola

R2D2's memory was not wiped which as mentioned earlier in this thread is why he is a bit "eccentric", which Threepio calls him. The Zahn trilogy also mentions memory wipes, I tend to think it's like us reformating our hard drives, sometimes it just needs to be done so that the HD works more efficiently. R2D2 not having his memory wiped would also explain why he knows where to go when they crash land on Tantoine. Threepio wants to go one way, R2 says civilization is the other way.


Well, technically all Chewy saw was Yoda turning around and slicing two clones. :) This was brought up on another message board and the reasoning they came up with was that Han wasn't going to listen to Chewy anyway, like a "whatever you big hairy oaf".

As mentioned a couple post above Chewy owes a life debt to Han. Han was an up and coming Imperial officer, the wookiees were enslaved. Han freed Chewbacca, thus the life debt and why Han is no longer an Imperial.

dola again.

I have been watching the movies in order (saw Eps. 1, 2, and the Clone Wars cartoon before I went to see ROTS and I just watched ANH). I have to comment about Anakin and Luke in their trilogies. When Attack of the Clones came out, people were complaning about how whiny Anakin is. In ANH, Luke is whiny ("but I wanted to go to Tosche Station to get some power converters", "Biggs and whoever got to leave"), like father, like son.

They also follow their dicks. Anakin turns dark because he doesn't want to see Padme die. Luke gets all hot and bothered when R2 shows Leia's message and then again on the Death Star when he finds out she is there and he convinces Han to go with him.

For those of you who haven't seen it yet, check out http://www.shortpacked.com.

One of the funnier summaries I've seen of Episodes I-III :)

BTW, good job by Lucas with this, which I thought going into the movie was jst gratuitous. The Wookies as Jedi smpathizers gives a good explanation for why they were enslaved after the muppet's escape.

I think you missed the point. His face didn't change because it was draining him, his face changed because Windu DEFLECTED the lightening back at Palpatine. Though it was all a ruse because when Anakin stepped in, Palpatine didn't miss a beat. It was probably a combination of the electric charge and Palpatine accepting a change in his features to look weak and pitiful.


Actually Anakin wasn't killed by the molten lava, but a stray spark coming out from the lava which ignited him. He suffered great burns, but nothing like falling in molten lava or anything.

And different strokes for different folks, I guess. You hated it, I consider it the second best Star Wars movie (after Empire Strikes Back).

Palpatine was always "hiding" his true form throughout the first 2 movies and when he finally used his dark side powers, his true appearence was revealed. Notice that the more he pressed with the lightening, the more disfigured he got. Sure he had it reflected at him, but that cant be the sole reason for being disfigured like that. Luke was hit by a ton of lightening in ROTJ and wasnt disfigured. Plus suddenly being "disfigured" played really well to the senate crowds, and Anakin. Anyways, thats what the novel seems to suggest at least.

/agree

who knows how old Palps really is/was (I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere) and he did learn the avoiding death skill from his master.

I don't know. A lot of this nit-picky stuff didn't bother me. I figured that Palp's face was hidden like most suggested and when he finally releases his Darkside powers his disguise fell away to reveal his "true self."

I also have no issue with Anaki surviving the lava or what not. His hate was amazingly strong in that scene. Since the Darkside is tied to hate, anger, etc., that would be more than enough to keep him alive in that state.

The film had so many other flaws in crucial areas: dialogue and acting chief among them, not to mention some pretty dull action sequences, the nitpicky stuff didn't bother me. It wasn't so much the individual trees that sucked, but the entire forest.

There were a handful of good scenes and the second half was an improvement, but still too many painfully bad, groan and whince inducing moments.

Also i meant to add that supposedly you see Palpy slighly disfigure as hes attacking with the lightsabre(using his darkside power). I didnt see it, but will see if i can detect it in a repeat viewing. Its too bad that the true nature/backstory of Sideous is not elaborated on much.

$158.3 million gross over the weekend. That's a lot of movie tickets.

There is really only one continuity error that has bothered me about the prequels. Darth Vader's theme was not introduced until Empire, but it was used quite a bit in the new trilogy.

Actually according to StarWars.com


Malak was a tall human who was horridly injured in a lightsaber duel. A swipe from a laser sword severed his lower jaw, and Malak was forced to wear a metallic jaw guard that hid his disfigurement from view. The guard also included a vocoder, through which Malak spoke with an eerie metallic tone.

Saw it yesterday afternoon. Thought it was alright, but I haven't watched the others in a few years so I might be confused about some stuff.

How long was Padme pregnant? Since the children came out normal, I'd say it was very close to 9 months?

And is travelling in this galaxy done extremely quickly? The Senator gets to Anakin in about 5 minutes once he realized Anakin might be in trouble.

And I find it funny how Vader has those buttons and switches on the outside of his body. :) What do they do? Is this ever explained?