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Mizzou B-ball fan 07-24-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1509383)
I would imagine that it will vary some based on each school and their characteristics, but the way I did it with USC is that I spent 30-45 minutes on my top 10-15 guys the first week using the find pitch option to examine some of their preferences. If I found at least three that were high and one that was the most, I stopped trying to find their pitch and started spending 30 minutes or so hard pitching it in the following weeks. Of course, it helps that USC is highly rated in every category except for early playing time. So far, I have my top 15 all considering us their #1 choice. Now, in week 9 or 10, I'm trying to do the same process with the next 15 guys on my board. I'm not sure how that will play out, yet.


Just curious, do you usually play a sports game by taking the best team available, or is this just a case where you're a big USC fan? I'm one of those people that likes to build from the ground up by starting at a small school. I honestly get bored if I start with a good team.

It's probably a good question in general whether people like to start at small schools, big schools, or their favorite school.

Eaglesfan27 07-24-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1509510)
Just curious, do you usually play a sports game by taking the best team available, or is this just a case where you're a big USC fan? I'm one of those people that likes to build from the ground up by starting at a small school. I honestly get bored if I start with a good team.

It's probably a good question in general whether people like to start at small schools, big schools, or their favorite school.



I'm a USC alum and have been a huge fan of all of their sports teams ever since I went there. That is why in my NCAA College Hoops 2k7 dynasty, I'll leave Duke in a heartbeat if the USC job opens up. I always try to work my way to USC or start as USC in my college videogame playing.

Pumpy Tudors 07-24-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1509510)
Just curious, do you usually play a sports game by taking the best team available, or is this just a case where you're a big USC fan? I'm one of those people that likes to build from the ground up by starting at a small school. I honestly get bored if I start with a good team.

It's probably a good question in general whether people like to start at small schools, big schools, or their favorite school.

He can answer for himself, but since I'm here, I'll grab it. He's a USC alum.

I choose Memphis because that's where my wife did her undergrad work, and my school (New Orleans) doesn't play football. I'd pick Memphis (a very, very good basketball team, obviously) in College Hoops, too, but New Orleans does play basketball, so I pick UNO for that.

I've tried to do the "pick a small school and build it up" thing, but if I don't have any kind of connection to that particular school, I have a hard time getting into it. I have to pick a team I actually like or care about.

Edit to add: EF beat me to answering the question that was asked to him. Oops on my part. :)

Eaglesfan27 07-24-2007 11:21 AM

Dola -

I usually do get bored with controlling USC after a few seasons in NCAA Football. At that point, if I'm still into the game (and this could be the first time that happens since the 04 version), I'll pick one of the worst schools in the game and start there, trying to work my way up.

Blade6119 07-24-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1509510)
Just curious, do you usually play a sports game by taking the best team available, or is this just a case where you're a big USC fan? I'm one of those people that likes to build from the ground up by starting at a small school. I honestly get bored if I start with a good team.

It's probably a good question in general whether people like to start at small schools, big schools, or their favorite school.


For me its favorite school, i always try to play as Missouri(where i grew up) or Arizona state(where i currently go to college), and if those two arent available i take wisconsin since i have a lot of family there.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-24-2007 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1509543)
For me its favorite school, i always try to play as Missouri(where i grew up) or Arizona state(where i currently go to college), and if those two arent available i take wisconsin since i have a lot of family there.


I usually play with Mizzou as they have been a middle of the pack team. They're awfully good on this year's game, so I may have to start at a lower level when I get the game next month and move my way up to Mizzou.

Logan 07-24-2007 11:39 AM

I start at my alma mater, Rutgers, which just a short time ago was one of those "start with a terrible school in a tough conference" choices.

Gotta admit...I don't miss those days.

MizzouRah 07-24-2007 12:32 PM

Always Mizzou for me as well. It's time to get us a NC!

BrianD 07-24-2007 12:41 PM

I never know how to start in games like these. I went to a state school with a Div III football team, so that is out. The closest big school that I care about is Wisconsin, but that almost makes the game too easy...

Pumpy Tudors 07-24-2007 12:53 PM

I PICK WEST VIRGINIA AND RUN THE SAME PLAY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND U CANT STOP THIS LOL N00B

Kodos 07-24-2007 01:08 PM

I play with Indiana, so there is always plenty of building to do.

Anthony 07-24-2007 01:15 PM

same here, St. John's U is Div III, so i have to pick a team i have no allegiance to. i normally will pick Miami, since i love South Beach and that's the only other city i like on the East Coast. Syracuse or some other New York State team could be a possibility, but i really don't consider upstate New York to be the real NY. just like no one in NYC recognizes the Bills as the 3rd NY team.

Phototropic 07-24-2007 02:21 PM

Marshall. I was born in town and have family ties.

sabotai 07-24-2007 03:05 PM

I usually go with Rutgers, since they're the Div 1A Jersey school. (I went ot Stockton, a Div III school. Once these college games start including Division III, I'll be set...but I won't be holding my breath). I used to create Stockton in some college games (If it was easy and could find suitable colors/logos), but NCAA Football doesn't have that option in the next gen this year.

Ironhead 07-24-2007 05:09 PM

I generally pick a new lower level team each year and try to build them into a champion. Wish I could update my CSU dynasty - darned easportsworld.com hasn't worked for the past 2 days.

MrBug708 07-24-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1509534)
Dola -

I usually do get bored with controlling USC after a few seasons in NCAA Football. At that point, if I'm still into the game (and this could be the first time that happens since the 04 version), I'll pick one of the worst schools in the game and start there, trying to work my way up.


Karl Dorrell, is that you?

gstelmack 07-24-2007 09:16 PM

So I #11 Louisville offered me 3rd string, and I decided to accept (I had a ton of top-25 offers for 4th and 5th string). Then my finger slipped on the "do you want to rename all the players?" and switched to "No" as I hit the A button, so now I have to go back and replay the last 2 games of my high school playoffs where I last saved.

Maybe I'll win the championship game this time. And maybe I'll remember to save when the championship game is over.

Izulde 07-24-2007 09:42 PM

I generally take Wyoming, since I went to school there for a semester as an undergrad and if I hadn't run out of money, would've graduated from there.

But if/when I get into an MFA program, I'll take whatever school I get into.

I miss going to a D-I school.

Izulde 07-24-2007 09:43 PM

dola,

I also went to Minnesota for a year, but I actively cheer against the Gophers at every opportunity.

Izulde 07-24-2007 09:53 PM

trola,

I'm the starting RB as a freshman for North Carolina in my current CL game after winning the state championship with Park High.

North Carolina because they were willing to make me the starter and I love their powder blue uniforms.

Next time I'll take a 4th or 5th string school and work my way up, probably as a QB.

Richard Weed 07-25-2007 08:08 AM

I always pick Army (alma mater) to start my dynasty. On another note, there are no sliders for fumbles. The only thing that I can think of to fix it is to increase the RB Ability maybe?

Eaglesfan27 07-25-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Weed (Post 1510189)
I always pick Army (alma mater) to start my dynasty. On another note, there are no sliders for fumbles. The only thing that I can think of to fix it is to increase the RB Ability maybe?


I've only had 1 game where fumbles were out of hand. I have had at least a half dozen with 0 fumbles. For me, they aren't a problem.

Radii 07-25-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1510232)
I've only had 1 game where fumbles were out of hand. I have had at least a half dozen with 0 fumbles. For me, they aren't a problem.


At least in campus legend mode as a RB, they seem to come in spurts for me. I don't think I've had a game yet where I've just fumbled one time. Its either 0 or 2+, I've had as many as 4 in a game, more than once.

Bee 07-25-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 1510259)
At least in campus legend mode as a RB, they seem to come in spurts for me. I don't think I've had a game yet where I've just fumbled one time. Its either 0 or 2+, I've had as many as 4 in a game, more than once.



Yep, generally it's not an issue for me in CL mode but I did have 3 consecutive games where I had fumbling problems for some reason including one game where I fumbled 4 times.

Huckleberry 07-25-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1509626)
Always Mizzou for me as well. It's time to get us a NC!


While doing some research I was surprised to learn that Missouri is the only Big 12 team without a division title in football, regular season or tournament title in basketball, or a regular season or tournament title in baseball. In fact, Missouri's only two conference titles in Big 12 play were by the 1997 softball team. 2 out of 320 conference championships awarded by the Big 12 so far.

I'm not talking smack. I just found that amazing because Mizzou's athletic program is generally very competitive across the board.

Ksyrup 07-25-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry (Post 1510265)
I'm not talking smack. I just found that amazing because Mizzou's athletic program is generally very competitive across the board.


Maybe not, but I get the feeling this bit of information will be posted again at some point in the next 4 months. :)

Flasch186 07-25-2007 10:08 AM

i used a free rental on this and I gotta say Im very impressed with the CL mode....havnt played dynasty yet but this has been a lot of fun thus far.

question: on the calendar if you sim to the games, skipping practice, do you still get an increase or growth in points?

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-25-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry (Post 1510265)
While doing some research I was surprised to learn that Missouri is the only Big 12 team without a division title in football, regular season or tournament title in basketball, or a regular season or tournament title in baseball. In fact, Missouri's only two conference titles in Big 12 play were by the 1997 softball team. 2 out of 320 conference championships awarded by the Big 12 so far.

I'm not talking smack. I just found that amazing because Mizzou's athletic program is generally very competitive across the board.


Oh yeah, you don't have to tell us MU fans. :)

MU has never won a team championship since the B12 was formed. Lots of close calls, but nothing overall. However, MU has won multiple individual titles, both at the B12 and NCAA level and has one of the top 5 wrestling programs in the nation. Hopefully, our football team can win the north this year and win the B12 championship on our home state turf in Arrowhead. :)

MizzouRah 07-25-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 1510269)
Maybe not, but I get the feeling this bit of information will be posted again at some point in the next 4 months. :)


Bastard!!! :mad:



;)

Desnudo 07-25-2007 11:56 AM

Has anyone else encountered a problem with too many holding penalties? I used EF27's sliders, setting holding to 99 and started getting a ton of holding penalties, sometimes 4-5 in a row. Even after setting the slider to 0, it still happens. I had to shut off penalties (PS2).

I've seen some other instances of this happening on the web, but was wondering if anyone had any insight here.

Also, how are the load times on the PS3 or XBox 360? This game is the first one that actually got me thinking about buying one of the two.

Eaglesfan27 07-25-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo (Post 1510348)
Has anyone else encountered a problem with too many holding penalties? I used EF27's sliders, setting holding to 99 and started getting a ton of holding penalties, sometimes 4-5 in a row. Even after setting the slider to 0, it still happens. I had to shut off penalties (PS2).

I've seen some other instances of this happening on the web, but was wondering if anyone had any insight here.

Also, how are the load times on the PS3 or XBox 360? This game is the first one that actually got me thinking about buying one of the two.


Hmmm, on the 360, I hardly see any holding penalties or any penalties at all with my sliders. Besides the interceptions being too high, that is my biggest gripe with the game. Load times aren't bad at all on the 360.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-25-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo (Post 1510348)
Also, how are the load times on the PS3 or XBox 360? This game is the first one that actually got me thinking about buying one of the two.


Not bad on the PS3, but it's all relative. I never sat there thinking it was taking way too long when I rented it. I know that there are websites out there that do load time comparisons between the two systems when there are similar games. If you want exact load times on either system, probably would be a good thing to search for to find out.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-25-2007 12:11 PM

Man, Bill Abner started out pretty high on this game and his impressions have gone downhill pretty quickly. Complaining about the passing game in his latest blog.......

http://sportsgamer.blogspot.com/2007...nning-low.html

Eaglesfan27 07-25-2007 12:15 PM

Jistic on OS usually has some great sliders and he just released his. He has defensive awareness at 20 for both sides which he says has eliminated the interceptions being too high (he's averaging 1 a game against the CPU.) He has knockdowns to 100 and ints at 0 like I did. I'm going to try that this weekend, as the number of interceptions being too high is my only significant complaint about the game at this point.

MizzouRah 07-25-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1510370)
Jistic on OS usually has some great sliders and he just released his. He has defensive awareness at 20 for both sides which he says has eliminated the interceptions being too high (he's averaging 1 a game against the CPU.) He has knockdowns to 100 and ints at 0 like I did. I'm going to try that this weekend, as the number of interceptions being too high is my only significant complaint about the game at this point.


I've only played a handful of games so far, but I'm still not seeing this yet. I'm hoping to start my dynasty very soon though and then I'll get to see more games played. Last game was 1 INT and that was me.

RedKingGold 07-25-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1510370)
Jistic on OS usually has some great sliders and he just released his. He has defensive awareness at 20 for both sides which he says has eliminated the interceptions being too high (he's averaging 1 a game against the CPU.) He has knockdowns to 100 and ints at 0 like I did. I'm going to try that this weekend, as the number of interceptions being too high is my only significant complaint about the game at this point.


Without using anyone's sliders, I upped knockdowns to 100, decreased INT's to zero, and defensive awareness to 35. Interceptions are now at 1-2 per game, sometimes zero or three, but mainly within the 1-2 range.

Eaglesfan27 07-25-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 1510565)
Without using anyone's sliders, I upped knockdowns to 100, decreased INT's to zero, and defensive awareness to 35. Interceptions are now at 1-2 per game, sometimes zero or three, but mainly within the 1-2 range.



Yeah, I might just keep it at 30 which is where I tested it at with a variety of teams. I think I just need to accept USC's defense kicks ass and will intercept it more than most teams ;)

Kodos 07-25-2007 02:15 PM

In my first start for the Buffalo Bulls against Penn State in career mode (whatever it's called), I threw like 5 or 6 picks, including my first 2 passes.

I suck. They should really move you back down the depth chart if you suck it up. The high school games were fun. I got sick of the load times before each practice...

CraigSca 07-25-2007 06:03 PM

I increased knockdowns to 100, ints to 0, and lowered defensive awareness a little. We shall see...

That being said, I just had my best game with 2008. The third game of my dynasty I played West Virginia at home (as Maryland). For the life of me, I could not stop Slaton at all. The only two saving graces were the two interceptions Pat White threw - they kept me in the game. With 18 seconds left, West Virginia kicked a FG to take a 38-35 lead. I had no timeouts left (they drove down the field on the previous possession, so I had to do everything just to have some time left), so I knew I had to throw an out pattern. The first attempt was miserable, so I had 7 seconds left from my own 42. I threw a hail mary, completed it down to the West Virginia 22, only to watch the last second tick off. My first loss, 38-35, but thoroughly enjoyable.

I can't wait for the next game :).

Oh, btw, 2 interceptions for WVA and 1 for me. I can deal with 3 interceptions per game...

rowech 07-25-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 1510391)
I've only played a handful of games so far, but I'm still not seeing this yet. I'm hoping to start my dynasty very soon though and then I'll get to see more games played. Last game was 1 INT and that was me.


I'm not either. I had one game where it was big. I just played a game today where each team had 1 pick on AA with no slider movement at all.

kingnebwsu 07-25-2007 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 1510272)
question: on the calendar if you sim to the games, skipping practice, do you still get an increase or growth in points?


I also was wondering about this. I've been skipping practice (without a noticeable in-season ratings boost) but attending the nightly functions (and receiving the applicable boosts). I'd like to sim everything, but the night stuff is kinda neat.

Izulde 07-25-2007 07:59 PM

Do you have to save your profile right after you get an ESPN Instant Classic? Because I didn't save the profile right away and just went straight to ESPN Instant Classics... then when I tried to save it after not finding the game on there, it didn't appear. :(

Was a hell of a game too. North Carolina goes up 7-0 on a 72 yard TD run by me, my first-ever for 20+ yards in CL mode (I even took 2 videos of it), Virginia battles back with superior defense and takes a 20-7 lead. I punch in another TD from 5 out and we close to within 20-14 and eke out another TD late in the 4th quarter.

Then I got the ball back with 15 seconds left, rip a huge gain down to the Cavs' 15 yard line... only to fumble and lose the ball. VA gets it back with 11 seconds left but we hang on for the 21-20 win.

My highest total ever running too, like 154 yards for 2 TDs and a short pass reception.

Mizzou B-ball fan 07-26-2007 07:40 AM

Another post from Bill Harris concerning a few positives and a list of bugs/problems he's found thus far, including another complaint about interceptions.........

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On the positive side:
--turning off the announcers really helped me appreciate how good the crowd sounds are in this game.
--the stadiums just look phenomenal, even with the reduced graphics quality (which was worth the tradeoff, because the framerate is much improved). They did a particularly excellent job conveying the massive size of the stadiums.
--while the animations aren't of the same quality as All-Pro Football 2K8, they're significantly improved and quite good in general. Most notable area that needs improvement: defensive backs need to be tracking the ball with their head, not with their eyes in the back of their head.
--generally, the A.I. uses its timeouts in a reasonable manner.
--the BCS standings calculation, in my limited experience, has been much more accurately replicated.
--like I said previously, I can only speak for the MLB position, but the camera is totally playable and much, much more immersive than the ONE camera in Dynasty mode.
--playing as one player is really, really fun.

On the negative side:
--a bug: all my Legend games are starting in the mid-to-late afternoon. Every single one for three seasons, which is a huge drag.
--another bug: sometimes the sound will reset to a much lower volume during a game, and it stays that way until you reboot.
--two primary gameplay issues: too many interceptions and too difficult to run (on default All-American settings). I'm going to fiddle with these for the next season and see to what degree they can be improved.
--the wind rarely blows strongly. Playing as Texas Tech, the wind should be whipping across the plains on a regular basis.
--in Super Sim mode, change of possession plays don't pause for your input before the game continues. This means you see something flash up quickly and then you're on the field, wondering exactly what happened.
--the holder for field goals should not be looking back at the kicker when the ball is snapped. It happens often enough that it's not a rarity.
--the ESPN.com features have a clunky interface and aren't nearly as much fun as the Sports Illustrated covers use to be.
--in Legend mode, it's very easy to interfere with a pass receiver and not get called for interference.
--the "Pontiac Game Changing Performance" play is often completely meaningless to the outcome of the game. A little thing, but you notice.

Logan 07-26-2007 08:00 AM

Quick responses:

- My first Legend game on the college level (I only played one, then went back to my dynasty) was at night.

- Haven't had any issues with the sound.

- The interceptions are a little high it seems, but with slider changes are much more reasonable. I know right when I throw it when a pass will be picked off; it's always been because of a terrible decision, not when the DB/LB makes a great play on the ball. I probably average a pick a game defensively. Running is a little tough on default AA, but I wouldn't say it's "difficult" to run. Before I messed around with sliders, I was breaking plenty of big plays and also getting stuffed behind the line. Now that I have the sliders where I want them, it feels much more realistic...some big plays, some losses, most in the 5 yard range (I'm using a very good RB).

- Strongest wind I've seen is 13MPH. I guess that's an issue to some, but not to me.

- Not following on his Super Sim issue.

- Either he or I are seeing something wrong. I seem to see the holder looking back at the kicker before every snap, seeing if he's ready, and then turning his head forward to receive the snap. Actually thought that was a pretty cool animation.

- 100% agree on the ESPN.com feature. It's crap. Annoying to navigate and it seems to take too long to load/exit out of.

- No real comment on the legend mode, haven't played enough...but as a HS MLB, I remember getting called for PI in one of the playoff games.

- 100% disagree on "meaningless" Pontiac Game Changing play...what's considered meaningless? A 7 yard run...an incomplete pass? I haven't seen any like that. Every one has been a TD, an INT, or a fumble. And not a TD to make it 35-14...my last game, my national championship loss to USC, the featured play was an early 3rd quarter TD by USC...which was the first 7 of 21 straight points. My complaint with the feature is that you can't cut out of it by X-ing or hitting start...you're forced to watch the whole play.

Richard Weed 07-26-2007 08:20 AM

Speaking of the wind, sometimes when I pick my side of the field to defend (with the wind) I'm actually kicking off into the wind.

The ESPN.com feature may be crap but at least it's an attempt to get us more immersed in the game. I can't figure out how to get to the AP's 25. All I see is the Coach's 25.

I think the Pontiac Game Changing play is the score that allowed the winning team to get ahead. I also don't like the fact that you have to watch your whole replay of a play you're trying to save to the hard drive without being able to X out.

Pumpy Tudors 07-26-2007 08:42 AM

After losing in the final thirty seconds to Ole Miss, beating Arkansas State on a last-second field goal, and holding off a Duke comeback attempt to win by 10, I thought I was at least able to keep up with some of the teams out there. I wasn't worried at all when I had a game coming up at Central Florida. Little did I know...

UCF handed me a 55-19 beating. Their running back ran for 178 yards on me. I've never had the CPU run like that against me in an NCAA game before, I don't think. I mean, we just couldn't stop him. This wasn't something where he only had like 10 carries and broke two or three long touchdown runs. This was in about 28 carries. After he broke a couple of 10-yard runs on me, I started stacking the line, and then UCF went to the air on me. I just couldn't do a thing.

On the flip side, I was punishing UCF early in the game with play action passes. After about a quarter of that, they started blitzing much more often. I actually got sacked on three consecutive plays. They were ahead, they knew I had to throw the ball, so they pinned their ears back and just flew at me. I figured that the CPU couldn't possibly be smart enough to keep blitzing again and again, but it was. I had to slow down the blitz, so I went to screen passes. After rolling down the field with some screens and quick passes, their blitzes stopped. Of course, I didn't know that they were going to stop blitzing, so I tried one screen pass that got stuffed. They completely confused me when I was on offense because they were adapting to everything I did, and since I was down by about 26 at that point, I couldn't afford to run the ball much to get them off my back. They just played way too smart for me.

I hope I have UCF on my schedule next season so I can get revenge. :mad:

Logan 07-26-2007 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Weed (Post 1511069)
The ESPN.com feature may be crap but at least it's an attempt to get us more immersed in the game. I can't figure out how to get to the AP's 25. All I see is the Coach's 25.


Hold down the LT trigger, like how you move through the depth chart with the RT one.

Pumpy Tudors 07-26-2007 09:00 AM

I'd like to add one more thing about my game against UCF. On consecutive plays, I did something that I'd never done before. First, I returned a kickoff for a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, I've been playing this series for years, and I'd never done it. Well, I did it and I almost jumped up and down. That feeling left pretty quickly, as I followed that up with another new experience.

I missed the extra point. :(

vex 07-26-2007 09:50 AM

Ha. Good stuff:) I mean, :(

kingnebwsu 07-26-2007 11:06 AM

I suck at offense so bad...it's ridiculous. My D is pretty solid, but I just beat Akron (as Ohio State) 26-7. I kicked 4 FG's and scored one defensive TD. In the Red Zone, I had 4 FG's and 1 TD. If I can work on that I would have blown them out. I only scored 1 offensive TD on a 3rd and 6 pass from the RZ that hit an open receiver. That was about the most excited I've been with the game since I got it (because I struggle mightily with the offense). Hopefully I can be undefeated until I play some tough opponents (Penn State in the 9th game).


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