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Oilers9911 02-24-2007 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1401903)
One Hit Wonder- Walking on Sunshine- Katrina and the Waves- 9.7


Hmmm, not sure about that one. Katrina and the Waves and two other top 25 hits in the UK and US and another song that was top 50.

ntndeacon 02-24-2007 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1401876)
I think "cover song" is far and away the deepest position in the draft.


I disagree. As Maple Leafs said. to find a hit for both the original and the cover is not easy. I had originally seen 5 or 6 and Hurt wasn't among them. I don't think I had heard that one.

ntndeacon 02-24-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1401909)
I am amazed this song is still on the board. I almost didn't pick it because maybe there's something I'm missing that makes it a bad choice. For the 8th pick of the ninth round I select the One-Hit Wonder "Mickey" by Toni Basil.

Classic - 8.3 - "A Change is Gonna Come", Sam Cooke
Epic - 6.3 - "Space Oddity", David Bowie
Arena - 5.8 - "You Shook Me All Night Long", AC/DC
Trendsetter - 2.3 - "Rapper's Delight", The Sugarhill Gang
Love Song - 7.8 - "Unforgettable" - Natalie Cole with Nat King Cole
One-Hit Wonder - 9.8 - "Mickey", Toni Basil
Party - 4.3 - "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)", Beastie Boys
Crossover - 1.8 - "Walk This Way", Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
Cover -
Anti-Establishment - 3.8 - "Killing in the Name", Rage Against the Machine



When ihear that one Ithink of Weird Al's version. :D

vtbub 02-24-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911 (Post 1401910)
Hmmm, not sure about that one. Katrina and the Waves and two other top 25 hits in the UK and US and another song that was top 50.



Wow, they had a Top 20 in '89. Never heard of it.

I'm not real concerned about their UK charting, or winning Eurovision either.

I'd be open for a ruling here.

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1401914)
Wow, they had a Top 20 in '89. Never heard of it.

I'm not real concerned about their UK charting, or winning Eurovision either.

I'd be open for a ruling here.


It is what it is. The voting will be the ruling. :) (I wouldn't worry about international success either)

ntndeacon 02-24-2007 03:07 PM

To me one hit wonder is an American hit.

st.cronin 02-24-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1401914)
Wow, they had a Top 20 in '89. Never heard of it.

I'm not real concerned about their UK charting, or winning Eurovision either.

I'd be open for a ruling here.


I think its a fine pick, perfectly appropriate.

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1401914)
I'd be open for a ruling here.

No ruling needed... you could call "Hey Jude" a one-hit wonder if you wanted to. The voters can decide what they think fits.

ntndeacon 02-24-2007 03:08 PM

I think it is appropriate as well. I don't remember them charting a second song.

ntndeacon 02-24-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1401921)
No ruling needed... you could call "Hey Jude" a one-hit wonder if you wanted to. The voters can decide what they think fits.


you might get into trouble with the guy who got the beatles though.

vtbub 02-24-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1401924)
you might get into trouble with the guy who got the beatles though.



Nah, he's alright.

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1401914)
Wow, they had a Top 20 in '89. Never heard of it.

I'm not real concerned about their UK charting, or winning Eurovision either.

I'd be open for a ruling here.


Don't worry man I hadn't heard of it until I looked it up :)

vtbub 02-24-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911 (Post 1401930)
Don't worry man I hadn't heard of it until I looked it up :)


Isn't wikipedia wondeful? :)

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub (Post 1401932)
Isn't wikipedia wondeful? :)


Tis :)

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 03:47 PM

Bucc is on the clock

Buccaneer 02-24-2007 03:57 PM

One of the greatest true epic songs:

Epic - 2112 - Rush

Buccaneer 02-24-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1401899)
A grand slam home run by the deacon. Brilliant pick.


It would only be a grand slam if everyone has heard of it.

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1401967)
One of the greatest true epic songs:

Epic - 2112 - Rush


That was my second epic pick.

Buccaneer 02-24-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911 (Post 1401970)
That was my second epic pick.


I was surprised it hadn't gone earlier because they do "epic" songs polls, that's usually up there with Stariway or Bohemian.

I originally thought of two other songs but they belonged in the Classic category better and I have already gotten in trouble for busting categories.

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1401973)
I was surprised it hadn't gone earlier because they do "epic" songs polls, that's usually up there with Stariway or Bohemian.

I originally thought of two other songs but they belonged in the Classic category better and I have already gotten in trouble for busting categories.


Nothing wrong with putting a classic in another category. :) That's a very flexible category, unlike Love Song. :)

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1401973)
I was surprised it hadn't gone earlier because they do "epic" songs polls, that's usually up there with Stariway or Bohemian.

I originally thought of two other songs but they belonged in the Classic category better and I have already gotten in trouble for busting categories.


The only reason I took American Pie over 2112 was because I think more people will recognize it.

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 04:20 PM

With pick 9.10 I am pleased to select as my crossover song Faith No More - Epic. Rapcore at its finest.

Classic - 1.10 Hotel California - The Eagles
Epic - 2.1 American Pie - Don McLean
Arena - 6.1 Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss
Trendsetter - 8.1 - Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones
Love Song - 5.10 - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic) - Celine Dion
One-Hit Wonder - 3.10 Macarena - Los Del Rio
Party - 7.10 - Old Time Rock n Roll - Bob Seger
Crossover - 9.10 - Epic - Faith No More
Cover -
Anti-Establishment - 4.1 We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister

Buccaneer 02-24-2007 04:22 PM

I'm up at 10.2?

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 04:27 PM

With my pick at 10.1 and final pick in the cover category and taking my second female choice. Sweet Jane - Cowboy Junkies.


Classic - 1.10 Hotel California - The Eagles
Epic - 2.1 American Pie - Don McLean
Arena - 6.1 Arena - Rock and Roll All Night - Kiss
Trendsetter - 8.1 - Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones
Love Song - 5.10 - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic) - Celine Dion
One-Hit Wonder - 3.10 Macarena - Los Del Rio
Party - 7.10 - Old Time Rock n Roll - Bob Seger
Crossover - 9.10 - Epic - Faith No More
Cover - 10.1 - Sweet Jane - Cowboy Junkies
Anti-Establishment - 4.1 We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1401990)
I'm up at 10.2?


you are now.

Buccaneer 02-24-2007 04:30 PM

Ok, now I go. One of the best female crossovers, #1 pop and #1 country:

Crossover - Ode to Billie Joe - Bobbie Gentry (10.2)

wade moore 02-24-2007 04:33 PM

I agree on the one-hit wonders.. there shouldn't be a "ruling", but the voters shouldn't punish Maple Leafs mercilessly...

Lee Greenwood is FAR from a one hit wonder and I'd be surprised if people don't recognize that.. imo it is the most clear category and he's just not even close.

Oilers9911 02-24-2007 04:36 PM

A guy I am a fan of that just didn't make the draft.

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Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911 (Post 1401988)
With pick 9.10 I am pleased to select as my crossover song Faith No More - Epic. Rapcore at its finest.

I actually wondered if anyone would take this in the "Epic" category.

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1402001)
I agree on the one-hit wonders.. there shouldn't be a "ruling", but the voters shouldn't punish Maple Leafs mercilessly...

Why me? I'm pretty sure Nena was eaten by wolves immediately after recording 99 Luftballoons.

st.cronin 02-24-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402007)
I actually wondered if anyone would take this in the "Epic" category.


It also could've gone in the "cover" category, which would have made me laugh.

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1402009)
It also could've gone in the "cover" category, which would have made me laugh.

Epic is a cover?

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:43 PM

First we'll start with a small anecdote. I realized after my last pick that I should've thought ahead. I picked my One-Hit Wonder and stepped away from the computer. About 20 minutes later I realized the huge mistake I made. Both of the people picking (4 picks, 2 teams) before my next pick already had a One-Hit Wonder. By definition, there's no way they block me on that one. I then sweat for the next hour or so to see if I got blocked on my Cover Song. We'll now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

I hope this pleases the people that seem to be putting a lot of stock into the Cover Song. While the original version was not a hit (in the billboard sense), it is well known that the original version exists and is a fantastic song on it's own. Bob Marley wrote this fantastic song with the Wailers, but Eric Clapton perfected "I Shot the Sheriff". How I managed to snake Eric Clapton in the 10th round I'm not sure, but I thank vtbub for taking a song he did with Derek and the Dominos for his Epic. :)

Classic - 8.3 - "A Change is Gonna Come", Sam Cooke
Epic - 6.3 - "Space Oddity", David Bowie
Arena - 5.8 - "You Shook Me All Night Long", AC/DC
Trendsetter - 2.3 - "Rapper's Delight", The Sugarhill Gang
Love Song - 7.8 - "Unforgettable" - Natalie Cole with Nat King Cole
One-Hit Wonder - 9.8 - "Mickey", Toni Basil
Party - 4.3 - "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)", Beastie Boys
Crossover - 1.8 - "Walk This Way", Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
Cover - "I Shot The Sheriff", Eric Clapton
Anti-Establishment - 3.8 - "Killing in the Name", Rage Against the Machine

st.cronin 02-24-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402010)
Epic is a cover?


The band recorded it twice, with different singers. The version you likely know is, technically, a "cover."

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1402011)
First we'll start with a small anecdote. I realized after my last pick that I should've thought ahead. I picked my One-Hit Wonder and stepped away from the computer. About 20 minutes later I realized the huge mistake I made. Both of the people picking (4 picks, 2 teams) before my next pick already had a One-Hit Wonder. By definition, there's no way they block me on that one. I then sweat for the next hour or so to see if I got blocked on my Cover Song. We'll now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

I suspect Bucc was going to take "Mickey" as his Epic.

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402008)
Why me? I'm pretty sure Nena was eaten by wolves immediately after recording 99 Luftballoons.


I really enjoy the Goldfinger cover. It's one I considered, but it's one of the many cover songs I love that no one (or very few people) would recognize.

Buccaneer 02-24-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402014)
I suspect Bucc was going to take "Mickey" as his Epic.


Except that I hate Toni Basil with a passion.

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1402013)
The band recorded it twice, with different singers. The version you likely know is, technically, a "cover."

Interestingly (maybe), according to Wiki the term "cover" is technically only for instances where an artists records a song that's currently popular in order to steal sales away from the original (usually lesser known) artist. Apparently it was a common trick in the early days of popular music. I'd never heard that before, and I think 99% percent of the public goes with the broader definition.

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402014)
I suspect Bucc was going to take "Mickey" as his Epic.


I hate when people write this, but it's just too accurate: LOL

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1402016)
Except that I hate Toni Basil with a passion.

Let it go man... we all have ex-girlfriends we wish it had been different with.

vtbub 02-24-2007 04:47 PM

Crossover- On The Road Again- Willie Nelson 10.4

Thank You and Goodnight.

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402017)
Interestingly (maybe), according to Wiki the term "cover" is technically only for instances where an artists records a song that's currently popular in order to steal sales away from the original (usually lesser known) artist. Apparently it was a common trick in the early days of popular music. I'd never heard that before, and I think 99% percent of the public goes with the broader definition.


My list of covers I put together for this is loaded with this situation. I'd name some because everyone has picked a cover, but there's always the possibility it could spark someone's thoughts in another category. :)

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402019)
Let it go man... we all have ex-girlfriends we wish it had been different with.

I'm drinking right now, by the way.

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1402022)
I'm drinking right now, by the way.


I can't wait to see 10.6 :)

lordscarlet 02-24-2007 04:52 PM

dola: probably appropriate for picking your anti-establishment song.

Subby 02-24-2007 04:55 PM

Be interesting to see each song listed by category and in the order they were picked...

Maple Leafs 02-24-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1402029)
Be interesting to see each song listed by category and in the order they were picked...

Seriously. Get on that, would you?

Subby 02-24-2007 05:10 PM

Classic

1.1 Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin - Subby
1.3 Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan - NoMyths
1.5 Yesterday - The Beatles - vtbub
1.10 Hotel California - Eagles - Oilers9911
2.2 Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones - Buccaneer
3.2 Foxy Lady- Jimi Hendrix - Lathum
8.3 A Change is Gonna Come - Sam Cooke - lordscarlet
8.6 What a Wonderful World - Louis Armstrong - Maple Leafs
9.4 Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - Elton John - Butter_of_69
10.5 ntdeacon

st.cronin 02-24-2007 05:13 PM

I give vtbub the best value pick in that category. Bucc and Maple Leafs made nice picks, too.

Subby 02-24-2007 05:19 PM

Epic - Final

1.4 - Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen - Butter_of_69
2.1 - American Pie, Don McLean - Oilers9911
2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall, Pink Floyd - ntndeacon
2.9 - Baba O'Riley, The Who - Lathum
3.1 - Free Bird, Lynyrd Skynyrd - Subby
3.3 - The End, The Doors - NoMyths
3.7 - Layla, Derek and the Dominoes - vtbub
5.5 - Thriller, Michael Jackson - Maple Leafs
6.3 - Space Oddity, David Bowie - lordscarlet
9.9 - 2112, Rush - Buccaneer


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